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1. 05:06 AM - Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (N27SB@aol.com)
2. 06:22 AM - 100LL long term in 912 (lucien)
3. 06:29 AM - Re: Firestar project (pj.ladd)
4. 06:33 AM - Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (Thom Riddle)
5. 06:52 AM - Re: Firestar project (John Hauck)
6. 07:02 AM - Re: 100LL long term in 912 (John Hauck)
7. 07:15 AM - Re: Firestar project (pj.ladd)
8. 08:09 AM - Re: 100LL long term in 912 (boyd)
9. 08:25 AM - Fw: AirVenture 2008 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
10. 08:40 AM - Re: Fw: AirVenture 2008 (John Hauck)
11. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (N27SB@aol.com)
12. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (Dennis)
13. 09:28 AM - Re: Fw: AirVenture 2008 (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
14. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (Robert Laird)
15. 09:56 AM - Re: 100LL long term in 912 (Ralph B)
16. 10:08 AM - Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (Dana Hague)
17. 10:46 AM - Re: Oil Supply (Jmmy Hankinson)
18. 11:06 AM - Re: 100LL long term in 912 (John Williamson)
19. 11:50 AM - Re: 100LL long term in 912 (lucien)
20. 01:59 PM - Excellent service from Daryl @ Warp Drive, Inc (John Bickham)
21. 05:58 PM - Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (DAquaNut@aol.com)
22. 07:07 PM - Re: Excellent service from Daryl @ Warp Drive, Inc (John Hauck)
23. 07:10 PM - Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION (Dwight)
24. 09:03 PM - Re: Re: 100LL long term vs. alkie (TheWanderingWench)
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| Subject: | Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
Roger, I am surprised that nobody is picking up on this topic except you.
PENNZOIL AIR COOLED 2 STROKE OIL IS GONE. Only existing stock at retailers
is left. Lockwood Aviation bought the last 500 cases. according to the nice
lady at the Lockwood booth at SnF it has to do with Shell buying the Pennzoil
line. I used to buy my oil from a Pennzoil quick change oil place. He would
sell it to me at cost. A few months ago he could not get it any more. He said
he was told it was out of production. Lockwood Aviation confirmed this at
SnF and was surprised I knew.
I was just trying to give you guys a heads up. NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS YET.
Steve
In a message dated 5/1/2008 11:45:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rphanks@grantspass.com writes:
Steve,
Do mean Pennzoil is phasing out Air-cooled Two stroke oil, or ALL two stroke
oil? Could they be replacing it with their snowmobile oil? It is rated TC
and TCW3. Says on their website that it is Rotax approved. There are a lot
of air cooled Rotax powered snowmobiles out there. I wouldn't think they
they would want to give up on the entire two stroke market, but stranger things
have happened.
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| Subject: | 100LL long term in 912 |
Hi all,
I asked this over on the titan yahoo list also, but since there're long-term 912
operators here I'll ask the same thing here.
I'm sort of thinking ahead about the possible arrival of alcohol laced mogas here
in NM (don't know if the bill passed but if it did, this'll start this coming
january) and at that point I'll have to make a decision about my 912.
I'm considering just running 100LL when that happens as I (as well as Rotax) doesn't
want 10% alcohol in the motor (corrosion is really my main concern 0 BTDT
with alkeehaul).
My question is, does anyone, i.e. john h and john w., with long experience with
the 912ULS know what the long term effects are of steady diets of 100LL? If it
does whack a chunk of time off the TBO, how much would that be? I understand
the slipper clutch and sprag clutch could be affected by it as well.
I looked through the archives and some of this has been discussed before, just
wondering about field experience with long-term 100LL usage.
PS: and off topic: I might be getting one of my 503's back from the guy I sold
it to, so it may need a project - perhaps another Kolb!
LS
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar project |
There was a sailor named RED who LEFT the PORT! Left=Red=Port.>>
Hi,
we usually use `There is a little drop of RED, PORT, LEFT. When I sailed
the rule was RED CANS to PORT entering harbour with the tide. In the States
I have found them using the same rule but LEAVING port. Very confusing, I
wonder where the system changees over?
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
I emailed Pennzoil directly about this and got the following reply.
Dear Mr. Thom Riddle; Thank you for your interest in our products. The
Pennzoil 2-Cycle Oil for Air Cooled Engines is still avalable in 8 ounce bottles.
(Part# 4053) Please contact the distributor in your area, phone number 716-693-0150
for help in locating this product.
Sincerely
Product Technical Service
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Thom Riddle
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
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have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar project |
In the States
> I have found them using the same rule but LEAVING port. Very confusing, I
> wonder where the system changees over?
>
> Pat
Patrick:
Don't try to confuse us. ;-)
For as long as I can remember it has always been, "Red Right Returning".
However, this is not always true when one is confronted by the Intercoastal
Waterway. There is a rule for that which is determined whether one is
sailing clockwise our counter-clockwise on the Intercoastal.
Since I am flying my Kolb, and not sailing, I am not really concerned with
my seamanship anymore. My boat has been landlocked, high and dry, for many
years. Makes good lawn art.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: 100LL long term in 912 |
> My question is, does anyone, i.e. john h and john w., with long experience
> with the 912ULS know what the long term effects are of steady diets of
> 100LL?
>
> LS
LS:
100LL is hard on the 912's due to lead residue.
Rotax says run a semisynthetic oil and change it often. I do that.
I also run Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel. Does it help? I don't know for
sure, but would like to think it does. If it makes me happy, then it is ok
with me.
My 912 ran much colder and was prone to lead fouling sparkplugs.
Haven't had that problem with the 912ULS which runs much hotter.
At home I run 93 octane mogas, with or without alcohol. I noticed this last
mogas I bought at the country store and at Wal-Mart's has alcohol added.
I'll have to be diligent with fuel samples now to see if I get a water
problem.
Only time I run 100LL is on cross country flights when I can not get mogas.
When I change the oil, I also flush the oil tank with fuel, then take it
apart to insure I get all the lead out.
I have never put more than 1200+ hours on the previous two 912's I have
owned and operated. However, they were still in top notch shape when I sold
them.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar project |
My boat has been landlocked, high and dry>>
Hi John,
sold my cruising cat. a long time ago but it really had me worried a few
years back, watching orcas around Vancouver Island when the guy piloting
this massive 30knot twin outboard outfit started for home apparently down
the wrong side of the buoys.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | 100LL long term in 912 |
with long experience with the 912ULS know what the long term effects are of
steady diets of 100LL? If it does whack a chunk of time off the TBO, how
much would that be? I understand the slipper clutch and sprag clutch could
be affected by it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I don't use enough 100 ll to know nor have I spent the time to research the
affect on the slipper clutch and sprag clutch, the first things to happen
is the time between oil changes and spark plug replacements reduces to
1/2. Also the choice of oil has to be one that will hold the lead deposits
in suspension better. The synthetics seem to lubricate better when the
engine is running.. but the mineral oil seems to protect from corrosion
better when it is not running. I guess I try to get the best of both
worlds by using a synthetic / mineral oil blend.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Fw: AirVenture 2008 |
For anyone camping at AirVenture, this is good news!!!
See the following. I read it that, they will be adding some sanitation
equipment to our camping area at AirVenture. Maybe we can get more Kolbs
attending this year.
Both John H and I E-Mailed Timm Bogenhagen (EAA's operations manager for
the Ultralight/LSA area) and he (Timm) was dead set against doing
anything for us. I also petitioned the Ultralight/LSA council with a
even more direct NO!!!! Sometimes it pays to go to the top.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: AirVenture 2008
Richard,
Thank you for clarifying the location. We will be adding two
port-o-lets and a dumpster to that location.
Steve
From: Richard & Martha Neilsen [mailto:NeilsenRM@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:30 PM
Cc: Steve Taylor
Subject: Re: AirVenture 2008
Steve & Tom
The area of concern is the airplane camping area north and a bit west of
the area you are talking about. Again If one of the port-o-lets and a
trash can could be located in the airplane camping area or maybe that
port-o-let grouping and dumpster could be moved to a more central
location on the north end of that camping area.
Thanks
Richard Neilsen
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Poberezny
To: NeilsenRM@comcast.net
Cc: Steve Taylor
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: AirVenture 2008
Richard,
Please read the following note from Steve Taylor. Steve manages all
of our facilities. If you could let Steve know if the area you're
talking about is the one he's mentioned, or direct him in a different
location. Steve's e-mail: staylor@eaa.org
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Taylor
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:07 AM
To: Kathy Phillip
Subject: RE: AirVenture 2008
As I read the gentlemen's request, I wonder if I'm thinking of the
right location, according to the information I believe that he is
referring to the camping area on the southern side of the ultra light
runway. If that's the case there are 6 port-o-lets located right in the
middle of the camping area which is approximately 1.8 acres in size.
I'd like to understand more details about his request to ensure that
were on the same page here.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Poberezny
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:45 PM
To: 'Richard & Martha Neilsen'
Cc: Steve Taylor
Subject: RE: AirVenture 2008
Richard,
Don't have all the details regarding your request. I'm sharing this
e-mail with the appropriate people so we can discuss this internally.
You will receive a response soon.
Regards,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard & Martha Neilsen [mailto:NeilsenRM@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:19 AM
To: Tom Poberezny
Subject: AirVenture 2008
Tom
I would really like to have a port-o-let and a trash can (just one
each) in/near the ultralight/LSA plane campground for AirVenture. I have
been trying to get some sanitation facilities closer to this campground
for a number of years. I have contacted everyone and possibly irritated
people with my persistence. I really don't understand the resistance. If
a opening in the fence needs to be a foot wider to get a truck thru then
could that be done? If that is too much to ask then maybe just one of
the many Port-o-lets and a trash cans could be moved to the north end of
the of the Ultralight/LSA camper/trailer campground?
I have been flying from Lansing Michigan to AirVenture for a
number of years. The Ultralight/LSA campground was once a popular place
to camp but over the last few years I have been practically camping
there by myself. We need to make it more welcome to visitors.
I have had my private license for 20 years and my VW powered Kolb
MKIIIC has been a licensed experimental since before its first flight. I
have written a few articles for the EAA's LSA magazine. The last article
was in the April 2008 issue.
Please help you are my last hope.
Richard Neilsen
EAA# 0156743
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: AirVenture 2008 |
Rick:
Thanks for doing the footwork.
I have a feeling Tom P and Taylor don't know where the UL/Lt Plane
camping area is. Hope they are not thinking of the GA area.
Our area is west of the UL/Lt Plane airstrip, north of the UL Camping
area.
Thanks again,
john h
For anyone camping at AirVenture, this is good news!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
The reason that the 8 oz bottles are still available at the distributor is
because there is less demand for that size. The price per oz is much higher
than the 16 oz. If you dig deeper I think that you will find that Pennzoil is
not packing any new ones.
If you like this product I suggest that you buy whatever 16 oz stock you can
find to hold you over until Lockwood has a new recommendation. Just trying
to give the List a Heads Up.
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
Firefly 0040/ Floats 2008 SnF Grand Champion
do not archive
In a message dated 5/2/2008 9:33:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
riddletr@gmail.com writes:
I emailed Pennzoil directly about this and got the following reply.
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| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
Did I mention your local Wal-Mart usually has it?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:30 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION
>
> I emailed Pennzoil directly about this and got the following reply.
>
> Dear Mr. Thom Riddle; Thank you for your interest in our
> products. The Pennzoil 2-Cycle Oil for Air Cooled Engines is still
> avalable in 8 ounce bottles. (Part# 4053) Please contact the distributor
> in your area, phone number 716-693-0150 for help in locating this product.
> Sincerely
> Product Technical Service
>
> --------
> Thom Riddle
> N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
> N197BG FS1/447
> --------------------
> Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even
> if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own
> common sense.
> - Buddha
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=180663#180663
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: AirVenture 2008 |
John
It's still possible they don't know were it is but... Note the attached
messages. Steve 1st came back with the area south west of the UL/LSA
strip and stated that it already had six port-o-lets and a dumpster.
That had to be the UL/LSA tent/trailer camp ground area. I indicated
that the area I was concerned about was just north and a bit west of the
area he located. Hopefully that will get it located properly.
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: AirVenture 2008
Rick:
Thanks for doing the footwork.
I have a feeling Tom P and Taylor don't know where the UL/Lt Plane
camping area is. Hope they are not thinking of the GA area.
Our area is west of the UL/Lt Plane airstrip, north of the UL Camping
area.
Thanks again,
john h
For anyone camping at AirVenture, this is good news!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
Well, that response doesn't really answer the question.... "still
avalable [sic]" doesn't specifically mean that they are producing the
oil, only that some 8 ounce bottles are still available.
Maybe a pointed question would be more helpful and get an answer that
would tell us if the specific air-cooled 2-stroke oil is or is
planning to be discontinued?
-- Robert
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I emailed Pennzoil directly about this and got the following reply.
>
> Dear Mr. Thom Riddle; Thank you for your interest in our products.
The Pennzoil 2-Cycle Oil for Air Cooled Engines is still avalable in 8 ounce
bottles. (Part# 4053) Please contact the distributor in your area, phone number
716-693-0150 for help in locating this product.
> Sincerely
> Product Technical Service
>
> --------
> Thom Riddle
> N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
> N197BG FS1/447
> --------------------
> Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if
I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
> - Buddha
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=180663#180663
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>
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| Subject: | Re: 100LL long term in 912 |
I'm still trying to decide what oil to use in my 912UL. Mark G, the previous owner,
used Valvoline Duralube semi-synthetic because he used 100LL strictly. Maybe
I'm a doubter, but the Valvoline oil may not be the best for gear lubrication.
I plan on using autogas and 100LL if I cannot find autogas.
Some 912 users have switched to Honda GN4 motorcycle oil as it's designed for gear
lubrication as well as the engine. I would like to use Honda's HP4, a semi-synthetic
oil. Rotax says that motorcycle oil can be used with either type of
fuel. If I could, Mobil 1 synthetic would be good, but Rotax states not to use
it with autogas.
Is anyone using motorcycle oil in their 912?
Ralph
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Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
At 08:04 AM 5/2/2008, N27SB@aol.com wrote:
>Roger, I am surprised that nobody is picking up on this topic except
>you. PENNZOIL AIR COOLED 2 STROKE OIL IS GONE..
The product labeled "air cooled 2 stroke" is gone, replaced by "2 cycle
outdoor" which is the same thing. Whether the "outdoor" product is being
discontinued I don't know, but this may be the source of the confusion.
We're a tiny market, but with the number of ATV's, dirt bikes, chainsaws,
and weed whackers out there I can't seem them abandoning this segment of
the market.
-Dana
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I just purchased two cases of 16 oz size Pennzoil for air cooled engines at
$39+. They did not have the 8 oz, but had the 16 oz size. This was from
the Oil Store on the internet.
Jimmy Hankinson
N6007L, Firefly
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Hague
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION
At 08:04 AM 5/2/2008, N27SB@aol.com wrote:
Roger, I am surprised that nobody is picking up on this topic except you.
PENNZOIL AIR COOLED 2 STROKE OIL IS GONE..
The product labeled "air cooled 2 stroke" is gone, replaced by "2 cycle
outdoor" which is the same thing. Whether the "outdoor" product is being
discontinued I don't know, but this may be the source of the confusion.
We're a tiny market, but with the number of ATV's, dirt bikes, chainsaws,
and weed whackers out there I can't seem them abandoning this segment of the
market.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: 100LL long term in 912 |
Hi all you 912 and 912S flyers,
You can't go wrong by using an oil from the Rotax list of oils for the operation
you are planning.
See SI-912-016 at
http://www.rotax-aircraft-engines.com/pdf/dokus/d04286.pdf
Rotax does make changes to the list, so you have to stay current.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS, 1595 hours
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: 100LL long term in 912 |
Ok, the consensus I'm getting over on the titan list is that the alkie is less
harmful than the lead in 100LL - the reverse of what I thought. Also, that the
alki containing gas appears to be ok out in the field, as long as the usual precautions
are taken against water contamination, etc.
That's exactly the info I was looking for...... So I'll just run the alki containing
stuff when it finally shows up here.
As for the oil, I know slightly more about that than gas, which I know next to
nothing about ;)
I follow the listing of recommended oils in the Rotax bulletin, even tho the brands/formulas
they list are the European versions (the US versions of some of
these have a different formulation, tho who knows which of them do).
After that, I follow the service grade and weight requirements. The manual says
an API spec of SF or SG so I make sure the stuff I use at least meets that grade.
For what it's worth, most of the automotive oils around these days meet API SL/SM,
which exceeds the specs of most motorcycle oils I've seen (they're usually
SG. later API specs are all backwards compatible and the later ones meet more
stringent standards as well), so they're probably actually better lubricants.
If an oil is on the not recommended list from Rotax, I don't use it no matter what
grade it is ;)
Right now I run the valvoline durablend semi-synthetic at 10W40 weight, API service
grade SM.
LS
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| Subject: | Excellent service from Daryl @ Warp Drive, Inc |
Just wanted to post a note on the repair of my Warp Drive prop. Many of you know
I suffered a prop strike when an aluminum fabric inspection plate came off
and struck the prop on edge. Never really knew it happened until I was putting
the plane back in the hangar.
I flew with an IVO the first 200 hours. I'm pretty sure this prop strike would
have took a chunk out of the IVO.
I was almost positive that I would have to replace the blade. I was thinking somewhere
in the neighborhood of $300. Called Daryl at Warp Drive, Inc and sent
him a picture. He said a repair would be no problem.
Sent him all three blades. Asked him to repair the damaged blade and trim 1" off
all three for noise. Went from 72" to 70". He did all that, cleaned and rebalanced
the blades. He even got the south Louisiana bug guts off that I couldn't.
I can't tell which blade was repaired. All three look brand new.
I basically got a new set of blades for under $120, including return shipping.
Certified GA couldn't even get an A&P to look at it for that! He also included
some extra 8mm nyloc nuts in that.
I'm super pleased. One thing to note is that there are distrubutors for Warp props.
As best I can tell, they just sell and don't do repairs. If you are buying
or servicing, I would recommend you go straight to the source.
Warp Drive, Inc
Daryl H (sorry forgot last name)
Ventura, Iowa
800-833-9357
Now it is time to set pitch and check cruise RPM. You guys have a blast at MV.
The wind is howling out there right now. Be safe.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
In a message dated 5/2/2008 12:08:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
d-m-hague@comcast.net writes:
The product labeled "air cooled 2 stroke" is gone, replaced by "2 cycle
outdoor" which is the same thing. Whether the "outdoor" product is being
discontinued I don't know, but this may be the source of the confusion.
We're a tiny market, but with the number of ATV's, dirt bikes, chainsaws,
and weed whackers out there I can't seem them abandoning this segment of the
market.
-Dana
If you look on the back of both bottles you have mentioned you will find
that they BOTH have the same stock # which is 4130 . The 4130 is located
just above the bar code. It is the same # on the " Air Cooled 2 Stroke" AND
"Multi-Purpose Outdoor". Penzoil also offers yet another multi- purpose oil but
it does not have the 4130 # on it. That is the one that is available at my
local Wal-Mart. I just bought a case from LEAF about a week ago and as of
then they still had it.
Ed Diebel ( FF# 62)
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| Subject: | Re: Excellent service from Daryl @ Warp Drive, Inc |
> Sent him all three blades. Asked him to repair the damaged blade and
trim 1" off all three for noise. Went from 72" to 70". He did all that,
cleaned and rebalanced the blades. He even got the south Louisiana bug guts
off that I couldn't. I can't tell which blade was repaired. All three look
brand new.
> John Bickham
John B:
Daryl is number one in my book, and so are his props. Been flying with them
for 15 years. They have taken me to some exciting places and brought me
home again safe and sound.
I repitched my Warp Drive, 3 blade, 70 inch prop yesterday. Wanted to take
a little pitch out of it and turn a little more rpm. I dropped one degree.
This brought my climb rpm to 5300 to 5400 rpm. Straight and level it will
turn 5500 to 5550. Engine is much crisper. Seems to have really freed it
up. 5000 rpm cruise is 85 mph on the button.
I picked up a steady vibration on my test flight yesterday. Not bad, but
noticeable. Went through the entire repitch process today. One blade was
about an 1/8" (bubble) out. Got all three blades singing off the same sheet
of music. Flies slick as a turbo today.
Getting ready for MV,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Pennzoil 2 cycle oil OUT OF PRODUCTION |
There are two (or more) Pennzoil 2 stroke oils. The one that the UL community
has had such good luck with is now packaged with a blue bar on the bottle. The
important thing is that on the back it is rated TC.
The other 2 stroke outdoor Multipurpose oil has been labeled with a brown bar on
the front and on the back it is rated TC3 or TCW or something like that. (I'm
to lazy to look it up right now) Bottom line is the TC rating is the one that
was tested many years ago and was praised so highly for AIR Cooled engines.
TC3, TCW etc is primarily for water cooled 2 strokes, IE: Jet Skis, outboards,
maybe 582s but not as good as TC rated oil for aircooled 2 strokes.
Water cooled engines do not develop the hot spots that an aircooled engine does
thus they dont need as high a quality base stock to make their oil.
Apparently Penzoil figured their Multipurpose oil was good enough for weedeaters,
chainsaws, etc since they say it is also for aircooled engines.
When my weedeater seizes up I say screw the lawn work and go in the air conditioning
and have a beer. If my 447 seizes thats a whole different matter :^(
When the supply of the true Pennzoil Air cooled 2 stroke oil (TC) dries up, then
I guess we'll have to run what ever is available, but dont be confused thinking
that the "multipurpose" oil is the same thing or just as good. It isnt....
Dwight
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| Subject: | Re: 100LL long term vs. alkie |
Lucien -
I'd like to share this info (alkie less harmful than
the lead in 100LL) with my club. Can you either
summarize the reasoning from the Titan list, or tell
me how to access the thread on that list?
Thanks -
Arty Trost
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, Oregon
--- lucien <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>
> Ok, the consensus I'm getting over on the titan list
> is that the alkie is less harmful than the lead in
> 100LL - the reverse of what I thought. Also, that
> the alki containing gas appears to be ok out in the
> field, as long as the usual precautions are taken
> against water contamination, etc.
>
> That's exactly the info I was looking for...... So
> I'll just run the alki containing stuff when it
> finally shows up here.
>
> As for the oil, I know slightly more about that than
> gas, which I know next to nothing about ;)
>
> I follow the listing of recommended oils in the
> Rotax bulletin, even tho the brands/formulas they
> list are the European versions (the US versions of
> some of these have a different formulation, tho who
> knows which of them do).
>
> After that, I follow the service grade and weight
> requirements. The manual says an API spec of SF or
> SG so I make sure the stuff I use at least meets
> that grade.
>
> For what it's worth, most of the automotive oils
> around these days meet API SL/SM, which exceeds the
> specs of most motorcycle oils I've seen (they're
> usually SG. later API specs are all backwards
> compatible and the later ones meet more stringent
> standards as well), so they're probably actually
> better lubricants.
>
> If an oil is on the not recommended list from Rotax,
> I don't use it no matter what grade it is ;)
>
> Right now I run the valvoline durablend
> semi-synthetic at 10W40 weight, API service grade
> SM.
>
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