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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (Dave Rains)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (MICHAEL MARKER)
3. 05:26 AM - radiator shroud (robert bean)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (John Hauck)
5. 07:03 AM - who is going to MV (boyd)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (boyd)
7. 07:28 AM - Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority? (grantr)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Firestar Project (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
9. 03:19 PM - Re: radiator shroud (planecrazzzy)
10. 04:15 PM - Re: prop for sale (gary aman)
11. 06:17 PM - Re: prop for sale (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
12. 06:56 PM - Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
13. 07:24 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (John Hauck)
14. 08:06 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
15. 08:49 PM - tubing source? (Dana Hague)
16. 09:38 PM - Re: tubing source? (Mike Welch)
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions |
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask first,
no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is paved
now :( , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with tourist spending
money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a wonderful time.
Dave R.
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest |
I would like to enter the attached pics for the MV photo contest.
Mike Marker
Los Lunas, NM
Firestar II (503)
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It took some struggle ( and sure can't compete with Uncle Craig's
work) but gotterdone. Comes off with two screws.
Looks big but it should reduce drag and improve cooling.
test flight maybe within a week.
BB
MkIII, N3851E, 100+??? hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions |
Dan G:
Here is Airnav's page on Monument Valley Airport.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/UT25
Runway 16/34 is now paved.
Land 16, take off 34 always, regardless of the wind. However, if the
wind is blowing hard enough the wrong way for a safe take off, you
probably do not need to be flying. There is plenty of room to take off
to the south in a Kolb, with 4,000 feet of pavement prior to the 800
foot high vertical rock face, if it was absolutely necessary.
122.9 CTAF.
I noticed John W provided the current aerial photo of MV Airport.
I have never gotten prior permission to land at MV. If you call for
info at the desk, it will only confuse them and you. Have never had
anyone ask for my "permission slip".
Note: Field elevation is 5,192 feet, a tad less than a mile high. This
elevation has snuck up on some folks landing at MV.
Have a fun, safe flight.
john h
mkIII
What frequency does everyone use for MV traffic? Do I need to call
Gouldings before flying in (since it's private)? Any other advice for a
first time MV trip?
Thanks,
Dan G
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| Subject: | who is going to MV |
Jon..
You WILL be missed (at least a little). I very much enjoyed visiting
with you last year and hope to have the privilege again soon. I am sure we
will have some photos to post,,, just enough to make you homesick for MV.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
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I hope I won't be banned from the list for
fudging the subject and letting you know that I
won't be able to make MV2008. I hope somebody
will miss me, at least a little, and I will try
to get there next year.
Jon L
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions |
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask
first, no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is
paved now :( , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with
tourist spending money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a
wonderful time.
Dave R.
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Dave Rains
N8086T
Added note.
Land to the south runway 16. takeoff to the north runway 34. last year
runway 16 was labeled RB.
When landing runway 16 it will be up hill, the south end of the runway is
about 150 ft higher than the north end.
Hazard - 800' agl Mesa - south of the runway.
Pattern Altitude 6000 ft mls 800 ft agl.
The airport is used by commercial tour operators, twin otters, Cessna
caravans, and others,,, it can get busy at times. Be carefull.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority? |
Thanks LS.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Project |
Bill Sullivan,
I think what you have is an "original" design Kolb FireStar. This model
debuted at Sun 'N Fun in 1985 and kits were sold for several years until the
introduction of the KX/KXP models. If you can find a copy of EAA Sport Aviation
magazine, issued July 1985, you will see that the 1985 FireStar is featured
on the front cover, and inside there is a very good five page story about
Homer Kolb and his plane, with many photos.
During that time, Kolb was offering this as an Ultralight, with the
advertising literature stating a weight of 264 lbs. and the fact that it "Needs
parachute to be legal ultralight". That's because the FAA allows 24 extra pounds
if that device is used, thus an empty weight of 278 lbs. (FAA mandated UL wt.
254 lbs. + Parachute allowance of 24 lbs. = 278)
The main gear legs were 7075-T6 tapered aluminum, 1" diameter where they fit
into the airframe, and used plastic wheels with a welded up axle/bracket,
with the axle part being a 3/4" tube, and no brakes. All this was to keep the
weight down. Additional comments were to go lightly with the paint (no
silver), but did use some UV preventive in the Polyfiber (Stits) paint.
Also, as you have learned from John h and others, there was an aluminum
sleeve in the airframe to sleeve it down so the 1" legs would fit. Perhaps Homer
had planned on using brakes in the future, which would require a heavier
duty gear leg and wheel, and maybe that's why the airframe socket was made to
accommodate the larger diameter leg. That is my speculation. At any rate,
those 1" legs were VERY easy to bend, so most owners have changed them out to
the
1-1/8" size. Criminy, even the larger legs can be bent easily. hehehe
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
In a message dated 5/3/2008 9:11:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
I started measuring all the spare legs I have, and the I called Travis at
TNK. I got a surprise- none of the legs are a size that he has heard of. First-
all of them are 1" diameter. Travis said there are only 3 stock diameters;
Firefly is 1 1/8", Firestar is 1 1/4", and Mark lll is 1 3/8". All are the
same length- 28 1/2". I have spares of 3 different lengths, but all are shorter.
My axle end is 3/4", and Travis said all of the ones he knows about are
7/8". He said he has heard of somebody putting a piece of pipe in the "A" frame
to bush it down,and I will look for it next trip. I have to look and measure
before ordering, so I will be out to the field next week.
He also commented that I may have some type of proto-type from the Old
Kolb Co. That might explain all the odd dimensions and no serial number.
I described the bent legs from taxi testing, and he said that some people
will make their own legs using 6061 aluminum. They are supposed to be 7075
T-651. The 6061 legs will bend just like I described.
Bill Sullivan
FS/KX/447
Windsor Locks, Ct.
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| Subject: | Re: radiator shroud |
Hey Bob,
Damn nice job !
Hope you got those two screws "Safety wired"
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: prop for sale |
Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on E-bay.I have
two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them both fit at the same
time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up tips for sale.It
was made for this engine and this airframe combination and it looks like new.
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From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:33:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Oops!! wrong name
Oops! I meant Jon L. and other Minnesota guys.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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| Subject: | Re: prop for sale |
What are you asking for the prince P-Tip Prop?
Ellery in Maine
Building MK3Xtra
988 Hrs in a original Firestar
6 Hrs in a Firefly
3 Hrs in a MK3Xtra and I will be getting more with Vic in Northern Maine
and 1264 hours in non kolb aircraft
this is to much to add to every email so this is a one time deal for me oh
and
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In a message dated 5/7/2008 7:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gaman@att.net writes:
Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on E-bay.I
have two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them both fit at the
same time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up tips for
sale.It was made for this engine and this airframe combination and it looks
like new.
----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:33:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Oops!! wrong name
Oops! I meant Jon L. and other Minnesota guys.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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| Subject: | Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? |
I've seen several references to cracking and failure of the Ultrastar
aileron bellcrank and a recommended modification, but nothing on exactly
what the fix is. I'm pretty sure mine doesn't have this fix, which makes
me nervous... does anybody (John Hauck?) have drawings or photographs of
the modified part?
Would love to see pix of the inboard wing spar collar mod too...
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? |
> I've seen several references to cracking and failure of the Ultrastar
> aileron bellcrank and a recommended modification, but nothing on exactly
> what the fix is. I'm pretty sure mine doesn't have this fix, which makes
> me nervous... does anybody (John Hauck?) have drawings or photographs of
> the modified part?
>
> Would love to see pix of the inboard wing spar collar mod too...
>
> -Dana
Dana:
There are two aileron bell cranks on the US. The upper and a larger complex
one the aileron push/pull tubes connect to attached to the boom.
I had a failure of the upper, the small one above the lower bell crank. My
fuselage was welded at the factory. The small tube brace was not welded to
stabalize it. Homer felt it was not needed on the factory cages. The plans
clearly show a small tube strut welded to the rear of the upper aileron bell
crank and was meant to be used by those builders welding their own kit.
The large bell crank on the bottom of the boom tube pivots on a 1/4" bolt
welded to a curved plate and riveted to the boom, IIRC. I have the old US
plans somewhere. They show in detail all this stuff. I put a Z brace made
of 4130 strip to the bolt end after the bell crank was installed, riveting
it to the boom. I did not like all that lateral stress on a bolt welded and
braced on one end only.
My 1984 US did not have a collar on the inboard rib. It used two 4130 tubes
inside the main spar. Did not do much to prevent wing twist. Heavy aileron
input would be canceled out by the wing twisting. The old US had to be
flown gently or one could get into trouble.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? |
At 10:22 PM 5/7/2008, John Hauck wrote:
>There are two aileron bell cranks on the US. The upper and a larger
>complex one the aileron push/pull tubes connect to attached to the boom.
>
>I had a failure of the upper, the small one above the lower bell
>crank. My fuselage was welded at the factory. The small tube brace was
>not welded to stabalize it. Homer felt it was not needed on the factory
>cages. The plans clearly show a small tube strut welded to the rear of
>the upper aileron bell crank and was meant to be used by those builders
>welding their own kit.
John, thanks, I see it now... it's a 1/4" tube running diagonally from the
vertical tube that drives the rear crank to the horizontal tube that's
driven by the pushrod from the control stick torque tube. Definitely not
on mine, and not easy to weld in place, either, since the assembly can't be
removed from the fuselage. Hmmm, perhaps a bolted bracket between the
bolts holding the rod ends?
>The large bell crank on the bottom of the boom tube pivots on a 1/4" bolt
>welded to a curved plate and riveted to the boom, IIRC. I have the old US
>plans somewhere. They show in detail all this stuff. I put a Z brace
>made of 4130 strip to the bolt end after the bell crank was installed,
>riveting it to the boom. I did not like all that lateral stress on a bolt
>welded and braced on one end only.
I don't like it, either. Now that you mention it I see that brace is on
the plans as well (and not on my plane). At least that one's easy to retrofit.
>My 1984 US did not have a collar on the inboard rib. It used two 4130
>tubes inside the main spar. Did not do much to prevent wing twist. Heavy
>aileron input would be canceled out by the wing twisting. The old US had
>to be flown gently or one could get into trouble.
The one day I flew the plane in excessive turbulence I could see the wings
twisting. That seems like a less urgent change, though.
-Dana
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I need a short piece of 1" square x.095 4130 tubing to replace one of my US
wing U-joints... but nobody seems have thicker than .065. Or is it indeed
4130? Tried ACS, Wicks, Univair... can't find my Dillsburg stock list but
they get grumpy about small orders. Any suggestions?
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: tubing source? |
Hey Dana,
Check out this link from eBay. I'm pretty sure this is the outfit that I got
my chromoly from, to build my new super dooper steel gear legs. They've got
1" X 1" X.120 chromoly, and most likely exactly what you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/4130-NORM-CHROM-MOLY-STEEL-SQUARE-TUBING-1-x1-x-120x6_W0QQitemZ220147209663QQihZ012QQcategoryZ29402QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
They're phone number is in the auction page.
Best of luck,
Mike Welch
MkIII CX "under construction"
Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
I need a short piece of 1" square x.095 4130 tubing to replace one of my US
wing U-joints... but nobody seems have thicker than .065. Or is it indeed
4130? Tried ACS, Wicks, Univair... can't find my Dillsburg stock list but
they get grumpy about small orders. Any suggestions?
-Dana
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