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1. 04:50 AM - Re: Length of the MXIII (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
2. 07:05 AM - Re: Engine quit today, now to figure out why? (Dave Rains)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: Mothers Day (cristalclear13)
4. 07:20 AM - Re: Re: Mothers Day (John Hauck)
5. 07:24 AM - Re: fuel (Ron)
6. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Mothers Day (John Hauck)
7. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Mothers Day (Mike Welch)
8. 07:51 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 05/07/08 (Skywaylodge)
9. 07:51 AM - Re: Red Bull at Monument Valley (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
10. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 05/07/08 (robert bean)
11. 08:29 AM - Re: Mothers Day (cristalclear13)
12. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: Mothers Day (possums)
13. 08:57 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 05/07/08 (R. Hankins)
14. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: Mothers Day (Jim Kmet)
15. 01:57 PM - Re: Red Bull at Monument Valley (by0ung@brigham.net)
16. 05:16 PM - Re: trim (gary aman)
17. 05:47 PM - Re: trim (John Hauck)
18. 06:02 PM - avgas at M.V. (Mike Welch)
19. 06:13 PM - Re: avgas at M.V. (John Hauck)
20. 06:14 PM - Twinstar (btcmed)
21. 06:18 PM - Re: avgas at M.V. (John Hauck)
22. 06:22 PM - Re: avgas at M.V. (John Williamson)
23. 06:24 PM - Re: avgas at M.V. (John Hauck)
24. 06:28 PM - MV Fuel (John Hauck)
25. 07:20 PM - Re: trim (Dana Hague)
26. 08:10 PM - Re: avgas at M.V. (Ron)
27. 08:59 PM - Re: avgas at M.V. (Mike Welch)
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| Subject: | Re: Length of the MXIII |
mr. watson, the m3x will need a 28 ft. trailer, the plane is just over
24 ft. with the new wing tips, any more info. please let me know.
donnie.
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From: Cloyd Watson
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Length of the MXIII
Hi Guys,
What is the length of the Mark III Xtra? In other words ....
how long of a trailer do I need??
Thanks,
Cloyd
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| Subject: | Re: Engine quit today, now to figure out why? |
Ralph B wrote:
> Dana, you can take the exhaust manifold off and check the rings and cylinders.
Look for any scuffing and stuck rings. The engine can run on one piston ring,
but it will lack power.
>
> If you don't find anything, run it for a full 10 minutes tied on the ground.
An easy way to do this is with an auto tow rope. Wrap one end around the front
wheel of your car and the ground, and the other end wrapped around the tailwheel
assembly.
>
> Ralph
I agree with this recommendation. Had the same symptoms with a Rotax. The engine
was seizing, and as soon as it cooled down for a few seconds would start again.
I would certainly make sure you pull the manifold and look inside.
Dave
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I know you had to mean this as a joke, but I will say "Thank you Mike and Jaz!"
Am I the only Mother on this forum?
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Mark II Twinstar
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> Am I the only Mother on this forum?
>
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> Cristal
Cristal:
There's a bunch of us old mothers on the Kolb List.
Got my gear packed and ready to load the MKIII for an early departure West
in the morning if I can get out of bed.
Going to be very windy tomorrow and Wed, but will be in my favor. Thursday
will have some headwinds from Los Lunas, NM, to Monument Valley.
I can tolerate high wind when it is pushing me, but don't do well with it on
my nose.
See all you Kolbers this weekend.
Ready to stretch my wings and fly.............
john h
mkIII - 2,568.5 hours
912ULS - 190.0 hours
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Ethanol bad? You will have to quit drinking beer or your favorite spirit. Ethanol
is very much Vodka. We can share intimate moments withy our motors now, we
can all have a drink together, after a flight that is!
;-)
Ron
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ethanol bad? I agree
oil companies bad? wrong
You could buy oil company stock too.
BB
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On 11, May 2008, at 4:33 PM, DAquaNut@aol.com wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 5/11/2008 1:08:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> captainron1@cox.net writes:
> Ethanol is better for your motor, burns cleaner and cooler. It has
> less thermal energ!
>
> The only people that benefit from the ethanol are
> the farmers ( possibly) , the processor , and the government. If
> there is one REAL benefit from ethanol to the consumer someone
> please blurt it out! When you consider the pollution created
> during processing, there is more polluting going on than if we just
> burned a gallon of plain ole gas. Ethanol causes bearings to rust
> and fail. Ethanol causes worse mileage. Ethanol absorbs water.
> It can cause trouble in our 2-strokes by causing a shortage of oil
> on the cylinder walls due to oil not mixing with water. Ethanol
> eats things regular gas wont. Ethanol causes my rotax to run hotter
> than with straight gas. When all is said and done Ethanol
> doesn't reduce pollution . The Government is cramming it down our
> throats . How can we fight back????? Have you noticed how much
> is being said about we need to conserve fuel since we are paying
> 4.00 a gallon. They dont have to because we are using
> less fuel on average than we ever have. Its simple. You buy what
> they sat you can buy or you do without ----------- unless you can
> make it your self' It is no longer we the people. Its we the
> GOVERNMENT! It just kills me every time I fill up at Walmart.
> On the the pump it says Ethanol ---------enhanced--- BALONEY!!!!!
> At least we still have a choice Take it or leave it!
>
> This is definitely related to my Kolb!
> I am off my soapbox now sorry if you did not want to listen !
> Blue sky's to all!
>
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> mkIII - 2,568.5 hours
> 912ULS - 190.0 hours
Forgot to add the two numbers together. 2,568.5 hours was time on the
airframe when I replaced the 912ULS. Miss P'fer (P fer plane) now has
2,758.5 hours since she was first flown March 1992.
Hope I can get another 2,758.5 hours out of her. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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> Am I the only Mother on this forum?
>
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> Cristal
> Mark II Twinstar
Miss Cristal,
Chances are you probably ARE the only mother on this forum. But, that being
remarkable as it is, I think you hold a LOT more honors, also! Like being a girl
pilot! Rare, indeed! A girl pilot that has her OWN plane! Off the charts
rare!! And, a feat I envy at this point, soloing your airplane with such low
time as a pilot. (This is my biggest admiration of you!!)
Now, if you could only get your husband to get with the program.......
Respectfully in admiration of lady pilots. (Hi, Arty.)
Mike Welch
MkIIICX
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 05/07/08 |
Kolb friends,
I sold my Kolb over two years ago and have tried several times to get myself off
the email list.
Would someone please help me with this?????
Thanks
In a message dated 05/08/08 03:00:40 Eastern Daylight Time, kolb-list@matronics.com
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (Dave Rains)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (MICHAEL MARKER)
3. 05:26 AM - radiator shroud (robert bean)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (John Hauck)
5. 07:03 AM - who is going to MV (boyd)
6. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (boyd)
7. 07:28 AM - Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority? (grantr)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Firestar Project (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
9. 03:19 PM - Re: radiator shroud (planecrazzzy)
10. 04:15 PM - Re: prop for sale (gary aman)
11. 06:17 PM - Re: prop for sale (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
12. 06:56 PM - Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
13. 07:24 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (John Hauck)
14. 08:06 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
15. 08:49 PM - tubing source? (Dana Hague)
16. 09:38 PM - Re: tubing source? (Mike Welch)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:49:14 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
From: "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72@yahoo.com>
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask first,
no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is paved
now :( , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with tourist spending
money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a wonderful time.
Dave R.
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Time: 04:51:54 AM PST US
From: "MICHAEL MARKER" <mjwings@msn.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
I would like to enter the attached pics for the MV photo contest.
Mike Marker
Los Lunas, NM
Firestar II (503)
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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:26:29 AM PST US
From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: radiator shroud
It took some struggle ( and sure can't compete with Uncle Craig's
work) but gotterdone. Comes off with two screws.
Looks big but it should reduce drag and improve cooling.
test flight maybe within a week.
BB
MkIII, N3851E, 100+??? hrs
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Time: 06:14:23 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
Dan G:
Here is Airnav's page on Monument Valley Airport.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/UT25
Runway 16/34 is now paved.
Land 16, take off 34 always, regardless of the wind. However, if the
wind is blowing hard enough the wrong way for a safe take off, you
probably do not need to be flying. There is plenty of room to take off
to the south in a Kolb, with 4,000 feet of pavement prior to the 800
foot high vertical rock face, if it was absolutely necessary.
122.9 CTAF.
I noticed John W provided the current aerial photo of MV Airport.
I have never gotten prior permission to land at MV. If you call for
info at the desk, it will only confuse them and you. Have never had
anyone ask for my "permission slip".
Note: Field elevation is 5,192 feet, a tad less than a mile high. This
elevation has snuck up on some folks landing at MV.
Have a fun, safe flight.
john h
mkIII
What frequency does everyone use for MV traffic? Do I need to call
Gouldings before flying in (since it's private)? Any other advice for a
first time MV trip?
Thanks,
Dan G
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 07:03:03 AM PST US
From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: who is going to MV
Jon..
You WILL be missed (at least a little). I very much enjoyed visiting
with you last year and hope to have the privilege again soon. I am sure we
will have some photos to post,,, just enough to make you homesick for MV.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
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I hope I won't be banned from the list for
fudging the subject and letting you know that I
won't be able to make MV2008. I hope somebody
will miss me, at least a little, and I will try
to get there next year.
Jon L
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Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US
From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need to ask
first, no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway is
paved now :( , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with
tourist spending money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a
wonderful time.
Dave R.
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Dave Rains
N8086T
Added note.
Land to the south runway 16. takeoff to the north runway 34. last year
runway 16 was labeled RB.
When landing runway 16 it will be up hill, the south end of the runway is
about 150 ft higher than the north end.
Hazard - 800' agl Mesa - south of the runway.
Pattern Altitude 6000 ft mls 800 ft agl.
The airport is used by commercial tour operators, twin otters, Cessna
caravans, and others,,, it can get busy at times. Be carefull.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Brigham City Ut.
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 07:28:33 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority?
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
Thanks LS.
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Time: 08:51:15 AM PST US
From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Project
Bill Sullivan,
I think what you have is an "original" design Kolb FireStar. This model
debuted at Sun 'N Fun in 1985 and kits were sold for several years until the
introduction of the KX/KXP models. If you can find a copy of EAA Sport Aviation
magazine, issued July 1985, you will see that the 1985 FireStar is featured
on the front cover, and inside there is a very good five page story about
Homer Kolb and his plane, with many photos.
During that time, Kolb was offering this as an Ultralight, with the
advertising literature stating a weight of 264 lbs. and the fact that it "Needs
parachute to be legal ultralight". That's because the FAA allows 24 extra pounds
if that device is used, thus an empty weight of 278 lbs. (FAA mandated UL wt.
254 lbs. + Parachute allowance of 24 lbs. = 278)
The main gear legs were 7075-T6 tapered aluminum, 1" diameter where they fit
into the airframe, and used plastic wheels with a welded up axle/bracket,
with the axle part being a 3/4" tube, and no brakes. All this was to keep the
weight down. Additional comments were to go lightly with the paint (no
silver), but did use some UV preventive in the Polyfiber (Stits) paint.
Also, as you have learned from John h and others, there was an aluminum
sleeve in the airframe to sleeve it down so the 1" legs would fit. Perhaps Homer
had planned on using brakes in the future, which would require a heavier
duty gear leg and wheel, and maybe that's why the airframe socket was made to
accommodate the larger diameter leg. That is my speculation. At any rate,
those 1" legs were VERY easy to bend, so most owners have changed them out to
the
1-1/8" size. Criminy, even the larger legs can be bent easily. hehehe
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
In a message dated 5/3/2008 9:11:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
I started measuring all the spare legs I have, and the I called Travis at
TNK. I got a surprise- none of the legs are a size that he has heard of. First-
all of them are 1" diameter. Travis said there are only 3 stock diameters;
Firefly is 1 1/8", Firestar is 1 1/4", and Mark lll is 1 3/8". All are the
same length- 28 1/2". I have spares of 3 different lengths, but all are shorter.
My axle end is 3/4", and Travis said all of the ones he knows about are
7/8". He said he has heard of somebody putting a piece of pipe in the "A" frame
to bush it down,and I will look for it next trip. I have to look and measure
before ordering, so I will be out to the field next week.
He also commented that I may have some type of proto-type from the Old
Kolb Co. That might explain all the odd dimensions and no serial number.
I described the bent legs from taxi testing, and he said that some people
will make their own legs using 6061 aluminum. They are supposed to be 7075
T-651. The 6061 legs will bend just like I described.
Bill Sullivan
FS/KX/447
Windsor Locks, Ct.
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Time: 03:19:25 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: radiator shroud
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Bob,
Damn nice job !
Hope you got those two screws "Safety wired"
..
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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Time: 04:15:27 PM PST US
From: gary aman <gaman@att.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: prop for sale
Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on E-bay.I have
two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them both fit at the same
time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up tips for sale.It
was made for this engine and this airframe combination and it looks like new.
----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:33:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Oops!! wrong name
Oops! I meant Jon L. and other Minnesota guys.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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Time: 06:17:50 PM PST US
From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: prop for sale
What are you asking for the prince P-Tip Prop?
Ellery in Maine
Building MK3Xtra
988 Hrs in a original Firestar
6 Hrs in a Firefly
3 Hrs in a MK3Xtra and I will be getting more with Vic in Northern Maine
and 1264 hours in non kolb aircraft
this is to much to add to every email so this is a one time deal for me oh
and
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In a message dated 5/7/2008 7:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gaman@att.net writes:
Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on E-bay.I
have two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them both fit at the
same time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up tips for
sale.It was made for this engine and this airframe combination and it looks
like new.
----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:33:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Oops!! wrong name
Oops! I meant Jon L. and other Minnesota guys.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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Time: 06:56:17 PM PST US
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank?
I've seen several references to cracking and failure of the Ultrastar
aileron bellcrank and a recommended modification, but nothing on exactly
what the fix is. I'm pretty sure mine doesn't have this fix, which makes
me nervous... does anybody (John Hauck?) have drawings or photographs of
the modified part?
Would love to see pix of the inboard wing spar collar mod too...
-Dana
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Time: 07:24:40 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank?
> I've seen several references to cracking and failure of the Ultrastar
> aileron bellcrank and a recommended modification, but nothing on exactly
> what the fix is. I'm pretty sure mine doesn't have this fix, which makes
> me nervous... does anybody (John Hauck?) have drawings or photographs of
> the modified part?
>
> Would love to see pix of the inboard wing spar collar mod too...
>
> -Dana
Dana:
There are two aileron bell cranks on the US. The upper and a larger complex
one the aileron push/pull tubes connect to attached to the boom.
I had a failure of the upper, the small one above the lower bell crank. My
fuselage was welded at the factory. The small tube brace was not welded to
stabalize it. Homer felt it was not needed on the factory cages. The plans
clearly show a small tube strut welded to the rear of the upper aileron bell
crank and was meant to be used by those builders welding their own kit.
The large bell crank on the bottom of the boom tube pivots on a 1/4" bolt
welded to a curved plate and riveted to the boom, IIRC. I have the old US
plans somewhere. They show in detail all this stuff. I put a Z brace made
of 4130 strip to the bolt end after the bell crank was installed, riveting
it to the boom. I did not like all that lateral stress on a bolt welded and
braced on one end only.
My 1984 US did not have a collar on the inboard rib. It used two 4130 tubes
inside the main spar. Did not do much to prevent wing twist. Heavy aileron
input would be canceled out by the wing twisting. The old US had to be
flown gently or one could get into trouble.
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________
Time: 08:06:03 PM PST US
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank?
At 10:22 PM 5/7/2008, John Hauck wrote:
>There are two aileron bell cranks on the US. The upper and a larger
>complex one the aileron push/pull tubes connect to attached to the boom.
>
>I had a failure of the upper, the small one above the lower bell
>crank. My fuselage was welded at the factory. The small tube brace was
>not welded to stabalize it. Homer felt it was not needed on the factory
>cages. The plans clearly show a small tube strut welded to the rear of
>the upper aileron bell crank and was meant to be used by those builders
>welding their own kit.
John, thanks, I see it now... it's a 1/4" tube running diagonally from the
vertical tube that drives the rear crank to the horizontal tube that's
driven by the pushrod from the control stick torque tube. Definitely not
on mine, and not easy to weld in place, either, since the assembly can't be
removed from the fuselage. Hmmm, perhaps a bolted bracket between the
bolts holding the rod ends?
>The large bell crank on the bottom of the boom tube pivots on a 1/4" bolt
>welded to a curved plate and riveted to the boom, IIRC. I have the old US
>plans somewhere. They show in detail all this stuff. I put a Z brace
>made of 4130 strip to the bolt end after the bell crank was installed,
>riveting it to the boom. I did not like all that lateral stress on a bolt
>welded and braced on one end only.
I don't like it, either. Now that you mention it I see that brace is on
the plans as well (and not on my plane). At least that one's easy to retrofit.
>My 1984 US did not have a collar on the inboard rib. It used two 4130
>tubes inside the main spar. Did not do much to prevent wing twist. Heavy
>aileron input would be canceled out by the wing twisting. The old US had
>to be flown gently or one could get into trouble.
The one day I flew the plane in excessive turbulence I could see the wings
twisting. That seems like a less urgent change, though.
-Dana
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Time: 08:49:56 PM PST US
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: tubing source?
I need a short piece of 1" square x.095 4130 tubing to replace one of my US
wing U-joints... but nobody seems have thicker than .065. Or is it indeed
4130? Tried ACS, Wicks, Univair... can't find my Dillsburg stock list but
they get grumpy about small orders. Any suggestions?
-Dana
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Time: 09:38:27 PM PST US
From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: tubing source?
Hey Dana,
Check out this link from eBay. I'm pretty sure this is the outfit that I got
my chromoly from, to build my new super dooper steel gear legs. They've got
1" X 1" X.120 chromoly, and most likely exactly what you are looking for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/4130-NORM-CHROM-MOLY-STEEL-SQUARE-TUBING-1-x1-x-120x6_W0QQitemZ220147209663QQihZ012QQcategoryZ29402QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
They're phone number is in the auction page.
Best of luck,
Mike Welch
MkIII CX "under construction"
Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
I need a short piece of 1" square x.095 4130 tubing to replace one of my US
wing U-joints... but nobody seems have thicker than .065. Or is it indeed
4130? Tried ACS, Wicks, Univair... can't find my Dillsburg stock list but
they get grumpy about small orders. Any suggestions?
-Dana
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<< MV, UT25, is 16/34. >>
All -
Hauck and Boyd are correct, regarding runway orientation at Monument
Valley.
My bad for calling it "35" earlier.
Glad to hear they finally put real numbers on the runway this year, to
replace the "RB" that was painted there last year.
After all, I'd hate to be responsible for someone landing there, aiming
for a runway heading of 35, and end up with them pointed diagonally on
the runway like that Drifter last year that almost mowed down our Rich
Neilsen. Such excitement!
(So far, that's been one of my favorite MV photos submitted for John W's
photo contest.)
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
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use the same logic windoz uses to shut down.... go to the START button.
With matronics you navigate to the SUBSCRIBE page to unsubscribe.
(happy Mac user)
BB
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On 12, May 2008, at 10:49 AM, Skywaylodge wrote:
> Kolb friends,
>
> I sold my Kolb over two years ago and have tried several times to
> get myself off the email list.
> Would someone please help me with this?????
>
> Thanks
>
>
> In a message dated 05/08/08 03:00:40 Eastern Daylight Time, kolb-
> list@matronics.com writes:
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> Today's Message Index:
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>
> 1. 04:49 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (Dave Rains)
> 2. 04:51 AM - Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest (MICHAEL
> MARKER)
> 3. 05:26 AM - radiator shroud (robert bean)
> 4. 06:14 AM - Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (John Hauck)
> 5. 07:03 AM - who is going to MV (boyd)
> 6. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions (boyd)
> 7. 07:28 AM - Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority? (grantr)
> 8. 08:51 AM - Re: Firestar Project (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
> 9. 03:19 PM - Re: radiator shroud (planecrazzzy)
> 10. 04:15 PM - Re: prop for sale (gary aman)
> 11. 06:17 PM - Re: prop for sale (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
> 12. 06:56 PM - Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
> 13. 07:24 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (John Hauck)
> 14. 08:06 PM - Re: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank? (Dana Hague)
> 15. 08:49 PM - tubing source? (Dana Hague)
> 16. 09:38 PM - Re: tubing source? (Mike Welch)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:49:14 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
> From: "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72@yahoo.com>
>
>
> If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need
> to ask first,
> no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire runway
> is paved
> now :( , and they are getting used to traffic coming and going with
> tourist spending
> money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and have a wonderful time.
> Dave R.
>
> --------
> Dave Rains
> N8086T
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181677#181677
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:51:54 AM PST US
> From: "MICHAEL MARKER" <mjwings@msn.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley 2008 Photo Contest
>
> I would like to enter the attached pics for the MV photo contest.
>
> Mike Marker
> Los Lunas, NM
>
> Firestar II (503)
>
> mjwings@msn.com<mailto:mjwings@msn.com>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:26:29 AM PST US
> From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: radiator shroud
>
> It took some struggle ( and sure can't compete with Uncle Craig's
> work) but gotterdone. Comes off with two screws.
> Looks big but it should reduce drag and improve cooling.
> test flight maybe within a week.
> BB
> MkIII, N3851E, 100+??? hrs
>
>
> DSCN1566.JPG
>
>
> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier">
>
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>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:14:23 AM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
>
> Dan G:
>
> Here is Airnav's page on Monument Valley Airport.
>
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/UT25
>
> Runway 16/34 is now paved.
>
> Land 16, take off 34 always, regardless of the wind. However, if the
> wind is blowing hard enough the wrong way for a safe take off, you
> probably do not need to be flying. There is plenty of room to take
> off
> to the south in a Kolb, with 4,000 feet of pavement prior to the 800
> foot high vertical rock face, if it was absolutely necessary.
>
> 122.9 CTAF.
>
> I noticed John W provided the current aerial photo of MV Airport.
>
> I have never gotten prior permission to land at MV. If you call for
> info at the desk, it will only confuse them and you. Have never had
> anyone ask for my "permission slip".
>
> Note: Field elevation is 5,192 feet, a tad less than a mile high.
> This
> elevation has snuck up on some folks landing at MV.
>
> Have a fun, safe flight.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> What frequency does everyone use for MV traffic? Do I need to call
> Gouldings before flying in (since it's private)? Any other advice
> for a
> first time MV trip?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan G
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:03:03 AM PST US
> From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: who is going to MV
>
> Jon..
>
>
> You WILL be missed (at least a little). I very much enjoyed
> visiting
> with you last year and hope to have the privilege again soon. I
> am sure we
> will have some photos to post,,, just enough to make you homesick
> for MV.
>
>
> Boyd Young
>
> Kolb MKIIIC
>
> Brigham City Ut.
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Do not archive
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> I hope I won't be banned from the list for
>
> fudging the subject and letting you know that I
>
> won't be able to make MV2008. I hope somebody
>
> will miss me, at least a little, and I will try
>
> to get there next year.
>
>
> Jon L
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US
> From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley Flyin Questions
>
> If I remember correctly, CTAF is 122.9 While technically you need
> to ask
> first, no one does, and we have never been questioned. The entire
> runway is
> paved now :( , and they are getting used to traffic coming and
> going with
> tourist spending money. Advise? Fly safe, meet new friends, and
> have a
> wonderful time.
>
> Dave R.
>
>
> --------
>
> Dave Rains
>
> N8086T
>
>
> Added note.
>
>
> Land to the south runway 16. takeoff to the north runway 34. last
> year
> runway 16 was labeled RB.
>
>
> When landing runway 16 it will be up hill, the south end of the
> runway is
> about 150 ft higher than the north end.
>
>
> Hazard - 800' agl Mesa - south of the runway.
>
>
> Pattern Altitude 6000 ft mls 800 ft agl.
>
>
> The airport is used by commercial tour operators, twin otters,
> Cessna
> caravans, and others,,, it can get busy at times. Be carefull.
>
>
> Boyd Young
>
> Kolb MKIIIC
>
> Brigham City Ut.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:28:33 AM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark III spins and rudder authority?
> From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Thanks LS.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181706#181706
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:51:15 AM PST US
> From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Project
>
> Bill Sullivan,
>
> I think what you have is an "original" design Kolb FireStar. This
> model
> debuted at Sun 'N Fun in 1985 and kits were sold for several years
> until the
> introduction of the KX/KXP models. If you can find a copy of EAA
> Sport Aviation
>
> magazine, issued July 1985, you will see that the 1985 FireStar is
> featured
> on the front cover, and inside there is a very good five page
> story about
> Homer Kolb and his plane, with many photos.
>
> During that time, Kolb was offering this as an Ultralight, with the
> advertising literature stating a weight of 264 lbs. and the fact
> that it "Needs
>
> parachute to be legal ultralight". That's because the FAA allows
> 24 extra pounds
>
> if that device is used, thus an empty weight of 278 lbs. (FAA
> mandated UL wt.
>
> 254 lbs. + Parachute allowance of 24 lbs. = 278)
>
> The main gear legs were 7075-T6 tapered aluminum, 1" diameter
> where they fit
> into the airframe, and used plastic wheels with a welded up axle/
> bracket,
> with the axle part being a 3/4" tube, and no brakes. All this was
> to keep the
>
> weight down. Additional comments were to go lightly with the
> paint (no
> silver), but did use some UV preventive in the Polyfiber (Stits)
> paint.
>
> Also, as you have learned from John h and others, there was an
> aluminum
> sleeve in the airframe to sleeve it down so the 1" legs would
> fit. Perhaps Homer
>
> had planned on using brakes in the future, which would require a
> heavier
> duty gear leg and wheel, and maybe that's why the airframe socket
> was made to
>
> accommodate the larger diameter leg. That is my speculation. At
> any rate,
> those 1" legs were VERY easy to bend, so most owners have changed
> them out to
> the
> 1-1/8" size. Criminy, even the larger legs can be bent easily.
> hehehe
>
>
> Bill Varnes
> Original Kolb FireStar
> Audubon NJ
>
>
> In a message dated 5/3/2008 9:11:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
>
>
> I started measuring all the spare legs I have, and the I called
> Travis at
> TNK. I got a surprise- none of the legs are a size that he has
> heard of. First-
>
> all of them are 1" diameter. Travis said there are only 3 stock
> diameters;
> Firefly is 1 1/8", Firestar is 1 1/4", and Mark lll is 1 3/8". All
> are the
> same length- 28 1/2". I have spares of 3 different lengths, but
> all are shorter.
>
> My axle end is 3/4", and Travis said all of the ones he knows
> about are
> 7/8". He said he has heard of somebody putting a piece of pipe in
> the "A" frame
>
> to bush it down,and I will look for it next trip. I have to look
> and measure
> before ordering, so I will be out to the field next week.
> He also commented that I may have some type of proto-type from
> the Old
> Kolb Co. That might explain all the odd dimensions and no serial
> number.
> I described the bent legs from taxi testing, and he said that some
> people
> will make their own legs using 6061 aluminum. They are supposed to
> be 7075
> T-651. The 6061 legs will bend just like I described.
>
> Bill Sullivan
> FS/KX/447
> Windsor Locks, Ct.
>
>
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>
> Time: 03:19:25 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: radiator shroud
> From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Hey Bob,
> Damn nice job !
>
> Hope you got those two screws "Safety wired"
>
> ..
> ..
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
>
> --------
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> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181797#181797
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:15:27 PM PST US
> From: gary aman <gaman@att.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: prop for sale
>
> Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on E-
> bay.I have
> two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them both fit
> at the same
> time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up tips
> for sale.It
> was made for this engine and this airframe combination and it looks
> like new.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:33:15 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Oops!! wrong name
>
>
> Oops! I meant Jon L. and other Minnesota guys.
>
> Mike Welch
> MkIII CX
> ________________________________
> Be a better friend, newshound, and
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:17:50 PM PST US
> From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: prop for sale
>
> What are you asking for the prince P-Tip Prop?
>
> Ellery in Maine
> Building MK3Xtra
> 988 Hrs in a original Firestar
> 6 Hrs in a Firefly
> 3 Hrs in a MK3Xtra and I will be getting more with Vic in Northern
> Maine
> and 1264 hours in non kolb aircraft
> this is to much to add to every email so this is a one time deal
> for me oh
> and
> Do not archive
>
>
> In a message dated 5/7/2008 7:16:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> gaman@att.net writes:
>
> Thought I should mention this on the Kolb list,before I put it on
> E-bay.I
> have two props for the MK-3 C with Jabiru 2200.Can't make them
> both fit at the
>
> same time so I'll offer the Prince carbon fiber with the curled up
> tips for
> sale.It was made for this engine and this airframe combination and
> it looks
> like new.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:33:15 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Oops!! wrong name
>
> Oops! I meant Jon L. and other Minnesota guys.
>
> Mike Welch
> MkIII CX
>
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>
> Time: 06:56:17 PM PST US
> From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank?
>
>
> I've seen several references to cracking and failure of the Ultrastar
> aileron bellcrank and a recommended modification, but nothing on
> exactly
> what the fix is. I'm pretty sure mine doesn't have this fix, which
> makes
> me nervous... does anybody (John Hauck?) have drawings or
> photographs of
> the modified part?
>
> Would love to see pix of the inboard wing spar collar mod too...
>
> -Dana
> --
> Resist militant "normality" -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:24:40 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank?
>
>
> > I've seen several references to cracking and failure of the
> Ultrastar
> > aileron bellcrank and a recommended modification, but nothing on
> exactly
> > what the fix is. I'm pretty sure mine doesn't have this fix,
> which makes
> > me nervous... does anybody (John Hauck?) have drawings or
> photographs of
> > the modified part?
> >
> > Would love to see pix of the inboard wing spar collar mod too...
> >
> > -Dana
>
>
> Dana:
>
> There are two aileron bell cranks on the US. The upper and a
> larger complex
> one the aileron push/pull tubes connect to attached to the boom.
>
> I had a failure of the upper, the small one above the lower bell
> crank. My
> fuselage was welded at the factory. The small tube brace was not
> welded to
> stabalize it. Homer felt it was not needed on the factory cages.
> The plans
> clearly show a small tube strut welded to the rear of the upper
> aileron bell
> crank and was meant to be used by those builders welding their own
> kit.
>
> The large bell crank on the bottom of the boom tube pivots on a
> 1/4" bolt
> welded to a curved plate and riveted to the boom, IIRC. I have the
> old US
> plans somewhere. They show in detail all this stuff. I put a Z
> brace made
> of 4130 strip to the bolt end after the bell crank was installed,
> riveting
> it to the boom. I did not like all that lateral stress on a bolt
> welded and
> braced on one end only.
>
> My 1984 US did not have a collar on the inboard rib. It used two
> 4130 tubes
> inside the main spar. Did not do much to prevent wing twist.
> Heavy aileron
> input would be canceled out by the wing twisting. The old US had
> to be
> flown gently or one could get into trouble.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:06:03 PM PST US
> From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar aileron bellcrank?
>
>
> At 10:22 PM 5/7/2008, John Hauck wrote:
>
> >There are two aileron bell cranks on the US. The upper and a larger
> >complex one the aileron push/pull tubes connect to attached to the
> boom.
> >
> >I had a failure of the upper, the small one above the lower bell
> >crank. My fuselage was welded at the factory. The small tube
> brace was
> >not welded to stabalize it. Homer felt it was not needed on the
> factory
> >cages. The plans clearly show a small tube strut welded to the
> rear of
> >the upper aileron bell crank and was meant to be used by those
> builders
> >welding their own kit.
>
> John, thanks, I see it now... it's a 1/4" tube running diagonally
> from the
> vertical tube that drives the rear crank to the horizontal tube that's
> driven by the pushrod from the control stick torque tube.
> Definitely not
> on mine, and not easy to weld in place, either, since the assembly
> can't be
> removed from the fuselage. Hmmm, perhaps a bolted bracket between the
> bolts holding the rod ends?
>
> >The large bell crank on the bottom of the boom tube pivots on a
> 1/4" bolt
> >welded to a curved plate and riveted to the boom, IIRC. I have
> the old US
> >plans somewhere. They show in detail all this stuff. I put a Z
> brace
> >made of 4130 strip to the bolt end after the bell crank was
> installed,
> >riveting it to the boom. I did not like all that lateral stress
> on a bolt
> >welded and braced on one end only.
>
> I don't like it, either. Now that you mention it I see that brace
> is on
> the plans as well (and not on my plane). At least that one's easy
> to retrofit.
>
> >My 1984 US did not have a collar on the inboard rib. It used two
> 4130
> >tubes inside the main spar. Did not do much to prevent wing
> twist. Heavy
> >aileron input would be canceled out by the wing twisting. The old
> US had
> >to be flown gently or one could get into trouble.
>
> The one day I flew the plane in excessive turbulence I could see
> the wings
> twisting. That seems like a less urgent change, though.
>
> -Dana
>
> do not archive
> --
> CanYouFixTheSpaceBarOnMyKeyboard?
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:49:56 PM PST US
> From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
> Subject: Kolb-List: tubing source?
>
>
> I need a short piece of 1" square x.095 4130 tubing to replace one
> of my US
> wing U-joints... but nobody seems have thicker than .065. Or is it
> indeed
> 4130? Tried ACS, Wicks, Univair... can't find my Dillsburg stock
> list but
> they get grumpy about small orders. Any suggestions?
>
> -Dana
> --
> CanYouFixTheSpaceBarOnMyKeyboard?
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:38:27 PM PST US
> From: Mike Welch <airspeedx3@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: tubing source?
>
> Hey Dana,
>
> Check out this link from eBay. I'm pretty sure this is the outfit
> that I got
> my chromoly from, to build my new super dooper steel gear legs.
> They've got
> 1" X 1" X.120 chromoly, and most likely exactly what you are
> looking for.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/4130-NORM-CHROM-MOLY-STEEL-SQUARE-TUBING-1-x1-
> x-120x6_W0QQitemZ220147209663QQihZ012QQcategoryZ29402QQrdZ1QQssPageNam
> eZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
>
> They're phone number is in the auction page.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Mike Welch
> MkIII CX "under construction"
>
>
> Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I need a short piece of 1" square x.095 4130 tubing to replace one
> of my US
> wing U-joints... but nobody seems have thicker than .065. Or is it
> indeed
> 4130? Tried ACS, Wicks, Univair... can't find my Dillsburg stock
> list but
> they get grumpy about small orders. Any suggestions?
>
> -Dana
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Gosh thanks Mike Welch. [Embarassed]
I've certainly had a lot of help and encouragement from lots of other people (including
my husband...he doesn't fly but he certainly has helped and encouraged
me).
I really appreciate the flight training I received from Jim Kmet. He took the
time out of his busy schedule to train this newbie and trusted me to fly and land
his plane. I really appreciate that!
Hope you have a great flight to MV John. Wish I could go! Retirement is a long
ways away for me yet.
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Mark II Twinstar
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At 10:04 AM 5/12/2008, you wrote:
>"cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>
>I know you had to mean this as a joke, but I
>will say "Thank you Mike and Jaz!"
>
>Am I the only Mother on this forum?
>
>--------
>Cristal
More like Wendy and the "Lost Boys" I suspect.
Sometimes we are in dire need of Wendy =AD the perfect counterbalance
to Peter and the Lost Boys' impulsive and childish behavior.
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Follow the directions. If you can't get that to work, click on the list administrator
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> I really appreciate the flight training I received from Jim Kmet. He took
> the time out of his busy schedule to train this newbie and trusted me to
> fly and land his plane. I really appreciate that!
Mike, don`t let her kid you, She is a natural, & EASY to train, ( & a
Genuinely nice Person!) Jim
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From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:26 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mothers Day
> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>
> Gosh thanks Mike Welch. [Embarassed]
>
> I've certainly had a lot of help and encouragement from lots of other
> people (including my husband...he doesn't fly but he certainly has helped
> and encouraged me).
>
> I really appreciate the flight training I received from Jim Kmet. He took
> the time out of his busy schedule to train this newbie and trusted me to
> fly and land his plane. I really appreciate that!
>
> Hope you have a great flight to MV John. Wish I could go! Retirement is
> a long ways away for me yet.
>
> --------
> Cristal
> Mark II Twinstar
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=182710#182710
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| Subject: | RE: Red Bull at Monument Valley |
i dont think the numbers have been painted... well we will see by the
end of the week.... guess i am looking for the RB when i
arrive....anything other than that would be a unexpected.
boyd
-----Original message-----
From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL"
Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil
> All -
>
> Hauck and Boyd are correct, regarding runway orientation at Monument
> Valley.
> My bad for calling it "35" earlier.
> Glad to hear they finally put real numbers on the runway this year,
to
> replace the "RB" that was painted there last year.
>
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John,
My MK-3 also has a big trim tab.Is it possible to off-set the vertical stabilizer
a little to correct some of it?I was afraid to bend the tubing,and I couldn't
think of another way to try.A lot of the yaw goes away when I power down.There
is enough weight from the tab back there to start the rudder oscillating,
with no tension on the pedals.Took the tab off and the wiggle stopped but it
flew sideways.Tried a spring & cable tension adjustment lever but never found
the right combination.Maybe need to aim the engine in a different direction.G
Aman MK-3 C 2200 Jabiru
----- Original Message ----
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 8:54:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: trim
Patrick:
A MKIIIx with no adverse yaw problem is one of a
kind. I know of no other that does not fly without a rudder trim
tab.
In fact, all my Kolbs, US, FS, and MKIII, required
rudder trim tabs or a very strong foot.
john h
mkIII
<<You did not mention is the X was trimmed up in yaw. If not, the X will fly
one wing low.>>
String stays pretty much in the middle so I don`t think it is that. I have no
trim tab on the rudder and can`t remember one on the plans. I shall have to
check.
Good luck on the way to MV
Pat
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Gary:
I did most of that testing over the years. The way my mkIII is rigged
today is the result of a lot of other tests that proved not to solve any
problems.
I tried to wait out old Kolb to off set the leading edge of the vertical
stab on their mkIII but they never did anything. So.........I moved
mine to discover it made little difference even after 1.75" off set.
Put it back to the center position.
I experiemented with changing engine thrust line up and down, left and
right. Little difference.
Also experienced rudder oscillation when there was no pressure, my feet,
on the pedals. Cured that by doubling the rudder pedal springs. Now I
can fly feet off.
The rudder trim tab I fly with cured the adverse yaw. Works like a
charm.
I don't think it is the weight of the rudder trim tab that causes the
occilation, or flutter. It is the fact that the rudder is hinged from
the leading edge and has no counter balance. Why the elevators don't
flutter, I will never know, but that has never been a problem with any
model Kolb as far as I know.
Yes, power off and no trim problem, yaw, pitch, or roll. Bring in the
power and adjustments must be made to keep the old bird trimmed out. I
believe it is the nature of a high thrust line pusher with lots of
power.
john h
mkIII
,
My MK-3 also has a big trim tab.Is it possible to off-set the
vertical stabilizer a little to correct some of it?I was afraid to bend
the tubing,and I couldn't think of another way to try.A lot of the yaw
goes away when I power down.There is enough weight from the tab back
there to start the rudder oscillating, with no tension on the
pedals.Took the tab off and the wiggle stopped but it flew
sideways.Tried a spring & cable tension adjustment lever but never
found the right combination.Maybe need to aim the engine in a different
direction.G Aman MK-3 C 2200 Jabiru
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Kolb guys,
It turns out I'll most likely fly my Cessna 172 to M.V., bringing along that friend
who has the finished, yet unflown, Firestar.
I am close to 200 miles from M.V., and can make it there and back without refueling.
But, this wouldn't afford me any sight-seeing to speak of, so I would like
to get a fill-up near M.V.
I have the 160HP upgrade Lycoming, and can not use auto gas. Does anyone know
where a guy can get avgas near M.V.? I don't have that sectional.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
Cessna 172 Skyhawk that flies
Kolb MkIIICX that doesn't
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| Subject: | Re: avgas at M.V. |
> I have the 160HP upgrade Lycoming, and can not use auto gas. Does anyone
know where a guy can get avgas near M.V.? I don't have that sectional.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Welch
Have you tried AirNav?
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Hello all, first time poster. I just bought a mid '80's twinstar. 503, airworthiness
and N numbered. Reg E-LSA. The thing is, it is open. I would like to close
the front end like the MKIII. I spoke with Travis at KOLB and he told me it
could be done. He also told me to contact you guys and see if anyone has any
ideas. I can fab it myself if I had pictures of the frame work to follow. HINT
HINT... I am also interested in putting breaks on it. I will have it in my hanger
at home on Wed. and plan to keep it there until I get it the way I like it.
thanks for your time, let me know what you guys think.
Brian
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| Subject: | Re: avgas at M.V. |
Does anyone know where a guy can get avgas near M.V.? I don't have that
sectional.
>
> Mike Welch
http://www.airnav.com/fuel/local.html
I don't know where you can get a Las Vegas or Denver Sectional.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: avgas at M.V. |
"Does anyone know where a guy can get avgas near M.V.? I don't have that sectional."
Avgas is available at both:
Page Municipal Airport, AZ
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPGA
and
Cal Black Memorial Airport. UT:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/U96
If you need to look at a sectional but don't have one, try this site with online
sectionals:
http://skyvector.com/
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS, 1605 hours
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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| Subject: | Re: avgas at M.V. |
> http://www.airnav.com/fuel/local.html
When you get to this page, type in UT25 and check the 100LL box.
john h
mkIII
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Mike W:
I noticed AirNav did not list Cal Black, U96. It has 100LL and is:
31.0 nautical miles NW
Initial true course: 325
john h
mkIII
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At 08:44 PM 5/12/2008, John Hauck wrote:
>
>Yes, power off and no trim problem, yaw, pitch, or roll. Bring in the
>power and adjustments must be made to keep the old bird trimmed out. I
>believe it is the nature of a high thrust line pusher with lots of power.
Not surprising, the spiraling slipstream from a propeller whose axis is at
or near the top of the rudder (or bottom in the case of my US) causes a yaw
effect under power.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: avgas at M.V. |
Just go to sportys.com go to map page and order the Sectional you want. If you
live in the West then the folks at KSDL will get you a chart pretty quick. Sportys
though is very good. Lets see if I can find you a direct link.
mypilotstore.com for you folks in the West.
http://sportys.com/charts for everybody else.
---- John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
============
Does anyone know where a guy can get avgas near M.V.? I don't have that
sectional.
>
> Mike Welch
http://www.airnav.com/fuel/local.html
I don't know where you can get a Las Vegas or Denver Sectional.
john h
mkIII
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> Have you tried AirNav?
>
>John H.
John H & John W.,
Thanks for the info. Actually, no, I haven't tried AirNav before, because all
the flying I ever do can be taken care of with my fill-up prior to leaving my
home airport. Of the 5 or so long distance cross-country flights I've done(usually
800+ miles), I always chart my path to stop at convenient airports along
the way that have avgas.
I have a Las Vegas sectional. That's the sectional that covers my home turf.
The problem is it comes up just short of UT25. I could get the next eastern
(of Las Vegas) sectional at my local FBO, but I didn't plan on it, since it is
just slightly off the page of the one I have.
I've got my two GPSes (Garmin 296 and GNC300XL), my sectional that gets me 95%
of the way, plus Google Earth 3D pictures of the complete route. I'll chart
a course on my sectional, dropping by Bryce Airport for some go-juice.
Thanks for the tips!!!
Mike W.
MkIIICX
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