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1. 02:13 AM - Re: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (Steven Green)
2. 02:21 AM - Re: Deer On the Runway (Steven Green)
3. 02:56 AM - Re: Deer On the Runway (Denny Rowe)
4. 04:39 AM - Re: turtles (pj.ladd)
5. 05:39 AM - Re: Fw: Re: FireFly Landing Gear (Jack B. Hart)
6. 07:07 AM - Re: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (knowvne@aol.com)
7. 07:23 AM - Re: Firefly landing legs (william sullivan)
8. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: FireFly Landing Gear (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
9. 07:48 AM - Re: Fw: Re: FireFly Landing Gear (chris davis)
10. 10:55 AM - Re: turtles (Russ Kinne)
11. 11:09 AM - Re: turtles (JetPilot)
12. 11:18 AM - Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (JetPilot)
13. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (knowvne@aol.com)
14. 01:48 PM - Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (Jon LaVasseur)
15. 03:22 PM - Re: Deer On the Runway (possums)
16. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: FireFly Landing Gear ()
17. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: turtles ()
18. 06:29 PM - Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (R. Hankins)
19. 06:49 PM - Re: Firefly landing legs (Jack B. Hart)
20. 06:56 PM - Re: Fw: Re: FireFly Landing Gear (Jack B. Hart)
21. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (knowvne@aol.com)
22. 07:26 PM - Re: Firefly Landing Legs (william sullivan)
23. 07:33 PM - Just another idea...Vtwin firestar? (Don G)
24. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? (knowvne@aol.com)
25. 08:53 PM - Re: Just another idea...Vtwin firestar? (Dwight)
26. 09:52 PM - Re: Just another idea...Vtwin firestar? (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
The tank is from Walmart, the fuel pump I bought from Aircraft Spruce.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/facetpumps.php
----- Original Message -----
From: knowvne@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
Hi Steve
Sorry I'm a bit too far North to take ya up on your offer......
Boston..
And I guess mailing it isn't possible given the contents 8-(
Where can I pick up a Faucet Pump the tubeing and all the fittings
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Green <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 19 May 2008 9:20 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
Mark,
I never timed the transfer but the pump is rated at 30 GPH so 5
gallons should take about 10 minutes. If you're close to East
Tennessee, $35 will get this one. I no longer need it. If I remember
correctly I used Adel clamps to mount the pump to the handle of the
tank.
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: knowvne@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
Hi Steve...
VERY NICE ! Thats exactly what I want to make..
BTW I like the way Rodger Velcros his pump to his can...
Did you install a in line switch to power the pump or
is it just plug and play?
How long did it take the faucet pump to transfer the 5 Gallons ??
Thanks
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Green <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 19 May 2008 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
Before I built the 20 gal. aluminum tank for my Mark 3, this is
what I used. It is a boat tank with the clunk/filter hose extended to
reach the bottom of the tank when standing on end. The fuel pump is a
faucet. I used it to transfer fuel in flight. It strapped into the
passenger seat. I made a fitting that screwed into the 3/4" pipe thread
in the cap of the plastic 5 gallon tanks. This fitting also provided a
vent for the tank that I was pumping into.
Steven Green
Mark 3 912
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| Subject: | Re: Deer On the Runway |
Now I know a little more history about the engine that is on my
plane.....It has been shot down!!!!!!!
Steven
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Deer On the Runway |
Holy Crap! They shot my all time favorite Slingshot full of holes!
Grin.
Denny Rowe
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From: possums
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Deer On the Runway
At 08:57 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
Now if he had my plans for the propane machine gun sound effects,
that would be truly impressive!!!
Mike
Oak Grove Mo.
Kolb Mark III
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Deer On the Runway
Rick,
It looks like possums has come up with the solution to your deer
problem.
Do not archive
Checked by AVG.
5/19/2008 5:04 PM
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Every few years we get some in the lake>>
Hi Dana
Best of luck. Nearest I have been to a turtle is the sea going variety
and I grabbed his shell as it swim past and enjoyed a great ride for as
long as my breath held out.. Surprising amount of power when he surged
ahead when I grabbed him.
Just like opening the throttle on a Kolb. See, it was flying related.
Pat :-)
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Landing Gear |
At 10:28 PM 5/19/08 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>Just an idea.
>
Jim,
It is a good idea. I am caught with what I have and how to make the best of
it. If the cable system doesn't do the job I will be more inclined to going
with the steel. In eight years, I have had two incidents that ended with
bent legs. I have invested in two new aluminum legs that weigh two pounds
each, and a Harbor Freight floor press so that I can straighten legs. At my
age I believe I have all the legs I will need.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
Steve THANKS!
BTW does the pump=C2-orientation matter for it to work??
Mounting holes Vertical or Horizontal ???
I was thinking of bolting it to a piece of Delrin
then I could Velcro=C2-it to the side of a fuel can.... =C2-
An easy in and out set up...
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Green <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 5:09 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
The tank is from Walmart, the fuel pump I bought
from Aircraft Spruce.
=C2-
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/facetpumps.php
=C2-
=C2-
----- Original Message -----
From:
knowvne@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump
Ideas?
Hi Steve
Sorry I'm a bit too far North to take ya up on your offer...... Boston..
And I guess mailing it isn't possible given the contents 8-(=C2-
Where can I pick up a Faucet Pump the tubeing and all the fittings
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Green <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent:
Mon, 19 May 2008 9:20 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump
Ideas?
Mark,
=C2-
I never timed the transfer but the pump is rated
at 30 GPH so 5 gallons should take about 10 minutes.=C2- If you're close
to
East Tennessee, $35 will get this one.=C2- I no longer need it.=C2- If
I
remember correctly I used Adel clamps to mount the pump to the handle of t
he
tank.
=C2-
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From:
knowvne@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:07
PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer
pump Ideas?
Hi Steve...
VERY NICE ! Thats exactly what I want to make..
BTW I like the way Rodger Velcros his pump to his can...
Did you install a in line switch to power the pump or
is it just plug and play?
How long did it take the faucet pump to transfer the 5 Gallons ??
Thanks=C2-
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Green <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent:
Mon, 19 May 2008 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump
Ideas?
=C2-
Before I built the 20 gal. aluminum tank for
my Mark 3, this is what I used.=C2- It is a boat tank with the
clunk/filter hose extended to reach the bottom of the tank when standi
ng
on end.=C2- The fuel pump is a faucet.=C2- I used it to transfer f
uel
in flight.=C2- It strapped into the passenger seat.=C2- I made a
fitting that screwed into the 3/4" pipe thread in the cap of the plast
ic 5
gallon tanks.=C2- This fitting also provided a vent for the tank tha
t I
was pumping into.
=C2-
Steven Green
Mark 3 912
=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly landing legs |
Jack- What size and type of wheels and tires are you currently running? Also,
regarding Jim Hauck's comments on steel legs- I thought factory legs were a type
of aluminum spring. Pound for pound, aluminum is supposed to be stronger.
With steel legs being lighter, wouldn't they be weaker? How about an opinion from
an engineering standpoint.
Bill Sullivan
FS/KX/447
Windsor Locks, Ct.
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Landing Gear |
ROCKWELL 48 IS TO HARD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Fw: Kolb-List: Re: FireFly Landing Gear
>
> Y'all;
>
> I just did a little country boy figgerin and seems to me, that if you used
1
> inch .095 4130 which weighs .918 lbs per foot and 1inch 7075 aluminum
weighs
> .941 lbs to the foot there would be a wee bit of weight savings and a hell
> of a lot better gear legs.
>
> 7075 is no where near being a spring, where heat treated 4130 is a spring
if
> heat treated to Rockwell 48 hardness.
>
> You could save even more weight by making the top half out of 1 inch and
the
> bottom half out of 3/4 inch tubing which weighs .664 lbs to the foot.
>
> The steel gear puts less stress on the cage than the stiff aluminum rod.
>
> But if you enjoy bending aluminum and then straightening it all the time,
> have fun.
>
> Just an idea.
>
> Jim Hauck
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Landing Gear |
Jack , A little off subject ,but not really I am building a firefly and won
der about my weight and the Alum . gear legs . How much do you weigh?- I
weigh 210 and wonder about the alum.. gear legs ,maybe I should go for the
steel legs I have 490 hrs in a KXP- with a 503- the landing might be a
little different as I wasn't disabled when I flew the Firestar as I am now.
Thank you Chris Davis=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Jack
B. Hart <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue
sday, May 20, 2008 9:36:18 AM=0ASubject: Re: Fw: Kolb-List: Re: FireFly Lan
internet.net>=0A=0AAt 10:28 PM 5/19/08 -0400, you wrote:=0A>--> Kolb-List m
essage posted by: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@embarqmail.com>=0A>=0A>=0A>Just an i
dea.=0A>=0A=0AJim,=0A=0AIt is a good idea.- I am caught with what I have
and how to make the best of =0Ait.- If the cable system doesn't do the jo
b I will be more inclined to going =0Awith the steel.- In eight years, I
have had two incidents that ended with =0Abent legs.- I have invested in
two new aluminum legs that weigh two pounds =0Aeach, and a Harbor Freight f
loor press so that I can straighten legs.- At my =0Aage I believe I have
all the legs I will need.=0A=0AJack B. Hart FF004=0AWinchester, IN=0A=0A=0A
===0A=0A=0A
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Pat
If you can push down hard enuf on the rear of a big turtle's shell,
while also holding onto the front just behind his head, he'll angle
up like a Kolb on takeoff. This gets your head above water & you can
ride for as long as your arms hold out!
Much fun.
Russ
On May 20, 2008, at 7:37 AM, pj.ladd wrote:
> Every few years we get some in the lake>>
>
> Hi Dana
>
> Best of luck. Nearest I have been to a turtle is the sea going
> variety and I grabbed his shell as it swim past and enjoyed a great
> ride for as long as my breath held out.. Surprising amount of power
> when he surged ahead when I grabbed him.
>
> Just like opening the throttle on a Kolb. See, it was flying related.
>
> Pat :-)
>
>
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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> Every few years we get some in the lake>>
>
> Hi Dana
>
> Best of luck. Nearest I have been to a turtle is the sea going variety and
I grabbed his shell as it swim past and enjoyed a great ride for as long as my
breath held out.. Surprising amount of power when he surged ahead when I grabbed
him.
>
>
I tried that once in Hawaii, but just as I was about to grab on, he turned around
mouth wide open and tried to take a chunk out of me [Shocked]
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
Mark,
I'm glad to see that you are going with a well tested, safe pump. The Facet pump
will work in any orientation. The fact that you can buy the facet pump from
Lockwood, Aircraft Spruce, and CPS should have clued most of the guys in that
were giving you bad advice.
Some of these guys are pretty quick to hand out bad advice... Talk is cheap, but
I wonder how many of them would actually be foolish enough to drop in a cheap
Ebay pump into a plastic tank not designed for it in flight ? Maybe a couple
here want to be there for their own barbecue, but from what I read, most people
will jump out of a burning airplane, parachute or not, before they will be
burned alive.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
HI Mike
I can't say with any certainty that their advice was bad as I haven't used o
r tested
what they said... My experiences has taught me their is always more than one
way=C2-
to pluck a goose... I prefer WAX, Some Boil... =C2-All get er done....
I can say that In my 25 years of flying I've learned its what I DONT know I
=C2-don't know=C2-
that can bite.....=C2-None of us know it all so brainstorming ideas in my
mind is always a=C2-
good thing and=C2-That's the beauty of these types of on line Campfires...
. Sharing ideas..
Even with a proven method I'll test it to MY satisfaction before I rely on i
t..
Not to say I don't trust others ideas but the OTHERS didn't build mine and i
t's my butt=C2-
thats on the fence....
Regarding the in flight fire an Jumping......=C2-Not me I'd spit alot and
find a lake. hahahahaha 8-)
One =C2-good thing about what I''ll be flying is the Flames should=C2-th
ey occur, =C2-Will be behind me=C2-
so the spitting will be more effective... 8-) HAHAHA
Thanks again for all the good ideas... =C2-Time to create a parts List....
Experiment,=C2-=C2-the Wrights didn't have a pilots licence either...
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 2:15 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
Mark,
I'm glad to see that you are going with a well tested, safe pump. The Facet
pump will work in any orientation. The fact that you can buy the facet pump
from Lockwood, Aircraft Spruce, and CPS should have clued most of the guys i
n
that were giving you bad advice.
Some of these guys are pretty quick to hand out bad advice... Talk is cheap
,
but I wonder how many of them would actually be foolish enough to drop in a
cheap Ebay pump into a plastic tank not designed for it in flight ? Maybe a
couple here want to be there for their own barbecue, but from what I read, m
ost
people will jump out of a burning airplane, parachute or not, before they wi
ll
be burned alive.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you cou
ld
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
Hi Kolbers,
I know I'm late the party on transfer pumps but
perhaps my experience will help someone.
My system is mounted in a FirestarII where the
second seat belongs. It consists of an aluminum
box that holds two of the Kolb standard five
gallon tanks and a Facet pump. The tanks have
top mounted pickup tubes. One tank in the box
has the pickup tube modified into a "tee" so the
line coming from the the original Kolb five
gallon in the rear cage passes through the Facet
pump, into one side of the "tee'd" pickup in the
first tank and on to the standard pickup tube in
the second tank. Between the Kolb cage tank and
the Facet pump is a quick disconnedt and between
the Tee and the second tank in the box is a
second quick disconnect. There is a third quick
disconnect on the electrical connection to the
Facet pump. The pump switch is mounted under the
pilot seat and is spring loaded. The box is a
nice complete unit that can be quick-disconnected
and lifted out as a unit and the back seat can be
functional in about five minutes. The fuel quick
connects allow fuel operation with 5, 10 or 15
gallons depending on how far you are flying.
With a fuel gage in the original Kolb tank, it is
fun to watch the qage go "up" during flight.
Jon L.
Minnesota
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| Subject: | Re: Deer On the Runway |
At 05:18 AM 5/20/2008, you wrote:
>Now I know a little more history about the engine that is on my
>plane.....It has been shot down!!!!!!!
>
>Steven
>
>Do not archive
So you ended up with Bill's old engine?
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Landing Gear |
---- KOLB AIRCRAFT <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com> wrote:
>
> ROCKWELL 48 IS TO HARD.
RC 48 works for me. Been using it for 20+ years.
Today was a good test taking off from Soldiers Bar USFS dirt strip in the mountains
of Idaho. Beat the crap out of my mkIII Hauck landing gear and legs. They
survived the torture. ;-)
Me too!
Weathered in at Ontario, Oregon, until probably tomorrow some time. Then on to
Larry Cottrell's 100 miles southwest.
john h
mkIII
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> I tried that once in Hawaii, but just as I was about to grab on, he turned around
mouth wide open and tried to take a chunk out of me [Shocked]
>
> Mike
This a new Kolb model??? The Turtle???
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
knowvne(at)aol.com wrote:
> Rodger NICE idea...
>
> And Its a good thing your Main tank is elevated
> Them bullet holes up the side could have messed up Christmas hahahaha 8-)
> Thanks for the pix..
>
>
> mark
>
>
> --
Mark,
The main tank is sitting on the boom tube. It is an 8 gallon tank out of a Sky
Ranger kit. They are under $30 and VERY sturdy. They are 1/2" fatter on the
square than the standard tank and quite a bit taller. I had to move the 1/4"
crossmember that holds the forward side of the tank to fit it in, but it was
worth it for the extra few gallons. As for the bullet holes... You should have
seen the other guy :-).
I'm all packed up, fueled up and headed to the Rock House in the morning. Even
with twelve gallons usable, the last leg is a little iffy if the wind kicks up.
Maybe I'll hang some bullet shaped tanks off of the struts for next year.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503 - N1782C
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly landing legs |
From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
Jack- What size and type of wheels and tires are you currently running? Also,
regarding Jim Hauck's comments on steel legs- I thought factory legs were a type
of aluminum spring. Pound for pound, aluminum is supposed to be stronger.
With steel legs being lighter, wouldn't they be weaker? How about an opinion from
an engineering standpoint.
.................
Bill,
The wheels are 4" AZUSALITE - AZUS and the tire is CHENG SHIN 260 x 85 or
3.00 - 4 10x3.
Anything can be called a spring. But some materials well elastically deform
more than others before they take a permanent set and do not return to their
original shape.
"Pound for pound, aluminum is supposed to be stronger." What is important
is the difference in strength for a desirable given shape. In this case a
landing gear leg. If you made a pure iron leg the same shape as a pure
aluminum leg, the iron leg would be 2.85 times stronger and 2.91 heavier.
So if the aluminum leg weighed two pounds the iron leg would 5.83 pounds.
But now say you do not make them identical. It has been established
engineering wise, that when you try to bend a rod, that most bending load is
carried by the material closest to the rod's surface. If this is so then
why bother with the center at all? Thus one can use a round tube. If you
can throw away enough of the center, then the iron leg weight can approach
that of the solid aluminum leg but with some sacrifice in strength from the
original iron leg.
"With steel legs being lighter, wouldn't they be weaker?" To follow along
on the above, very little pure aluminum and iron is used today.
Metallurgists discovered how to add different impurities to both aluminum
and iron to boost their load carrying ability. Steel, which is much
stronger than iron, is formed by adding among other things carbon. In fact
7075-T6 aluminum is equal or stronger than annealed 4130 steel. BUT, if you
heat treat the 4130, it can be about three times stronger. This heat
treating gives steel the edge.
There is another metal property that must be considered. It is called the
modulus of elasticity. It describes how much the material will deflect for
a given load. In the case of the aluminum and iron leg example given above,
it means that the iron/steel leg will deflect about three times more than
the aluminum leg for the same load. Or the aluminum leg is stiffer. This
means that aluminum is less able to absorb impact and give back energy. In
some ways this is good. Bend the leg to absorb energy to save the cage etc.
By heat treating the steel you can increase its ability to absorb impact
energy and to return it. But there are some trade offs. The more springy
you make the leg the more likely the aircraft will want to bounce. This can
be countered some what by using large wheels with under inflated tires as a
dampening mechanism. Also, as the hardness of the steel is raised, the more
difficult it is to drill holes, etc. If the hardness is raised too high,
there is no possibility of failure bending. The steel becomes so brittle,
it will snap when it is overloaded.
And so trade offs must be made. I hope this helps you out.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Landing Gear |
From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
Jack , A little off subject ,but not really I am building a firefly and
wonder about my weight and the Alum . gear legs . How much do you weigh? I
weigh 210 and wonder about the alum.. gear legs ,maybe I should go for the
steel legs I have 490 hrs in a KXP with a 503 the landing might be a
little different as I wasn't disabled when I flew the Firestar as I am now.
.................................................
Chris,
Currently, I weigh 177 pounds dry. I have lost 20 pounds in the last year
and a half. When I am suited up with avionics vest, cold weather gear, and
full fuel load, the FireFly is at or a little over gross weight of 500
pounds. If I am headed to a fly-in I carry at least another 20 pounds of
equipment in a luggage space behind the fuel tank.
You are welcome,
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
Thanks Jon...
If you happen to have any Pix of your set up I=C2-
would love to compare them to what other have posted...
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon LaVasseur <firestar503@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 4:46 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
Hi Kolbers,
I know I'm late the party on transfer pumps but
perhaps my experience will help someone.
My system is mounted in a FirestarII where the
second seat belongs. It consists of an aluminum
box that holds two of the Kolb standard five
gallon tanks and a Facet pump. The tanks have
top mounted pickup tubes. One tank in the box
has the pickup tube modified into a "tee" so the
line coming from the the original Kolb five
gallon in the rear cage passes through the Facet
pump, into one side of the "tee'd" pickup in the
first tank and on to the standard pickup tube in
the second tank. Between the Kolb cage tank and
the Facet pump is a quick disconnedt and between
the Tee and the second tank in the box is a
second quick disconnect. There is a third quick
disconnect on the electrical connection to the
Facet pump. The pump switch is mounted under the
pilot seat and is spring loaded. The box is a
nice complete unit that can be quick-disconnected
and lifted out as a unit and the back seat can be
functional in about five minutes. The fuel quick
connects allow fuel operation with 5, 10 or 15
gallons depending on how far you are flying.
With a fuel gage in the original Kolb tank, it is
fun to watch the qage go "up" during flight.
Jon L.
Minnesota
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Landing Legs |
Jack- Thanks for the definative explanation on the differences between aluminum
and steel legs. There has been a lot of discussion in recent months, without
getting back to basics.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
FS/KX/447
Windsor Locks, Ct.
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| Subject: | Just another idea...Vtwin firestar? |
Donnie and Travis,
While we are talking about other ideas...
Now I was thinking.....I wonder How many more FireStar Kits them boys down in London
could sell if they were to knock off several thousand dollars from its current
price?????
Now while you are pondering on this foolishness I am not talking about you taking
a cut in pay!..
About an hour ago I stopped in at Buckeye PPC in Argos, Ind, and I witnessed an
honest 300 lbs of static thrust from their latest design...this is like the runner-up
down at Sun-n-fun...
Dont get me wrong..I am not taking up those slow flying soft tops...
But I think a Firestar with an electric start...300lb thrust 4 stroke burnin about
2 gallons an hour at WOT, with several thousand hours between overhauls and
hitting the market at 3 grand less (or more) than currently oughtta revive things
down there during this .....well...lets say slow period.
trouble is the thrust line is probably to high to just slap one on and hit the
starter...it would need a slight redesign of the cage/motor mount area to get
the thrust line down to where it is with a rotax. So it will take a little work,,
But the benefits would be tremendous I predict. Small investment in engineering....and
knock off a ton of cost....seems like it oughtta pencil out.
and in case you were not listening...I said an honest 300 lbs...this is 582 thrust
men...and it is not hearsay. I have been stopping in there quite a bit in
the last year since they won the awards at OshKosh with the Honda powered machine,
and this latest Generac powered machine is gonna be a winner. Did I mention
he is planning on marketing the engine/redrive package ?...I am sure he would
entertain OEM accounts.
The market is quickly going to be a 4 stroke market boys. These Engines are coming
to us quickly, in fact several are here now..and I think the company that
responds to the design changes needed to accommodate these engines will be in
the forefront of the revival.
I have been hearing so many companies complaining that the Sport pilot rule killed
the little plane market. I don't believe it..it was just a coincidence of
timing...the price increases over the last few years have had to be a bigger factor.
Few products in any market would have responded differently to these increases.
And you manufacturers can attribute those increases to one single component.
The Kolb Wing design is your biggest asset.....an airframe that will accommodate
these engines with a Kolb Wing just HAS to be a great potential seller!
PLEASE think hard about this.
I fact...print this and pass it upstairs.
--------
Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Tansfer pump Ideas? |
WHEN YOU GET LOW ON FUEL JUST LEAN FORWARD HAHAHA 8-)
WORKED IN A HANGGLIDER 8-)
GOOD LUCK
MARK
-----Original Message-----
From: R. Hankins <rphanks@grantspass.com>
Sent: Tue, 20 May 2008 9:26 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tansfer pump Ideas?
knowvne(at)aol.com wrote:
> Rodger NICE idea...
>
> And Its a good thing your Main tank is elevated
> Them bullet holes up the side could have messed up Christmas hahahaha 8-)
> Thanks for the pix..
>
>
> mark
>
>
> --
Mark,
The main tank is sitting on the boom tube. It is an 8 gallon tank out of a Sky
Ranger kit. They are under $30 and VERY sturdy. They are 1/2" fatter on the
square than the standard tank and quite a bit taller. I had to move the 1/4"
crossmember that holds the forward side of the tank to fit it in, but it was
worth it for the extra few gallons. As for the bullet holes... You should have
seen the other guy :-).
I'm all packed up, fueled up and headed to the Rock House in the morning. Even
with twelve gallons usable, the last leg is a little iffy if the wind kicks up.
Maybe I'll hang some bullet shaped tanks off of the struts for next year.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503 - N1782C
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| Subject: | Re: Just another idea...Vtwin firestar? |
Sharon and Dick Starks Firestar has been running a Big Twin conversion from Valley engineering http://www.culverprops.com/big-twin.php
for a year or so now.
>From what I've heard it is a great combo with the Generac 990 modified by Valley
eng and Valley's re-drive.
Valley is using this engine and re-drive on a lot of their planes now.
Dwight
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| Subject: | Re: Just another idea...Vtwin firestar? |
In a message dated 5/20/2008 8:33:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
donghe@one-eleven.net writes:
But I think a Firestar with an electric start...300lb thrust 4 stroke burnin
about 2 gallons an hour at WOT, with several thousand hours between
overhauls
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