---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/27/08: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:43 AM - Re: John Williamson (pj.ladd) 2. 04:34 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 3. 04:36 AM - Re: Kolb List: John Williamson (william sullivan) 4. 05:13 AM - John Williamson (MICHAEL MARKER) 5. 05:18 AM - Re: John Williamson (Larry Cottrell) 6. 07:22 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (jb92563) 7. 07:50 AM - Re: UltraStar engine woes nearing a conclusion (jb92563) 8. 08:17 AM - Re: John Williamson (jimhefner) 9. 08:41 AM - Re: turtles (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL) 10. 08:43 AM - John Hauck going home (Larry Cottrell) 11. 09:09 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon- Update (Clayton, James) 12. 10:12 AM - Re: [KolbUltrastar] Update: Engine woes getting solved (Dana Hague) 13. 02:13 PM - Re: john williamson (Gherkins Tim) 14. 03:25 PM - Re: John Hauck going home (Larry Cottrell) 15. 03:41 PM - John Williamson (LARRY JUDY GITT) 16. 05:44 PM - John Williamson (Flycrazy8@aol.com) 17. 05:46 PM - Re: John Williamson Autobiography (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 18. 08:59 PM - Re: John Williamson Autobiography (John H Murphy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:17 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson Larry, thanks for your post. It helps to put this tragic accident into perspective. Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:21 AM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon I am lost for words even though I have never met John W I felt like I have, my loss he was a help to me and a friendly guy as well. I send my condolences to his family and friends I will surly miss him on this list Ellery in Maine do not archive In a message dated 5/26/2008 1:33:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kkorenek@tx.rr.com writes: Kolbers, It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that John Williamson, Kolb Kolbra, N49KK crashed and was killed just before 10 AM local time, Sunday, May 25th at the Skinner Ranch Airport (12OR), Jordan Valley, Oregon. (Skyvector Link: http://skyvector.com/#35-9-3-5601-1393) >From information relayed from the remote area by the investigating Sherriff , John was flying with two other airplanes. The other two planes landed and were going to take pictures as John did a fly-by. As he flew by in a sha rp bank, something happened and he went down. It is almost certain that he did not suffer. All this information is very preliminary and the only thing certain is that we lost a friend. I am John=99s flying buddy here in Arlington and am trying my best to help the family thru this tragedy. I was unaware of who was accompanying John afte r the Monument Valley weekend, so if any of you know who the other two planes and pilots might be, please relay any contact information you may have to me. I will keep you all posted as new information presents itself and will advise you of funeral arrangements when they are final. John was a really good guy and I am going to miss him. Ken Korenek Arlington, Texas 817-657-6500 cell 817-483-8054 home 972-641-5029 work kkorenek@tx.rr.com (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:36 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb List: John Williamson I just got back in town, and read about John. Our condolences and prayers go out to John's family and friends. Bill and Tiny Sullivan Windsor Locks, Ct. do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:59 AM PST US From: "MICHAEL MARKER" Subject: Kolb-List: John Williamson Jan & I are deeply saddened with the tragic news of John's accident. John was an inspiration to me and to hundreds of others who share the joy of flying our home built airplanes. In a relatively short period of time, he built his Kolbra and flew it tens of thousands of miles experiencing adventures that would take most of us ten lifetimes to accumulate. He shared his many Kolb experiences on his awesome web site (Home of a Kolbra Pilot) and always took the time to encourage us to expand our flying goals and helped us solve technical problems. We are very fortunate to have met John.he was a happy man and always passionate and enthusiastic about building airplanes and pursuit of his next flying adventure. He will be sorely missed. Attached are some photos of John and his Kolbra at Monument Valley and his Kolbra flying over the Rio Grande when he visited us last year. Mike & Jan Marker Firestar II (571 hrs, Rotax 503) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:20 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheWanderingWench" > > The attached photo was taken a few years ago at the > Alvord Desert, on one of John H and John W's flights > to visit you and Karen after the MV fly-in. I don't > know the year or the 3rd Kolb (is that you, Larry?) > but it's been my screen saver for some time. > > Arty Trost The third plane is Gary Haley. Larry C do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon From: "jb92563" Very sad news when a fellow enthusiast reaches the end of his time. I never met him but enjoyed his very informative postings. The only consolation we can have is that he was enjoying one of the things he loved in life and had the courage to live his dreams. My condolences to all his friends and family. -------- Ray Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202) Moni MotorGlider Schreder HP-11 Glider Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185018#185018 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:28 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: UltraStar engine woes nearing a conclusion From: "jb92563" I cut down the prop tips yesterday by 3/4" So now I have a 48 1/2 " diameter instead of 50". I ran up the engine (Cuyuna 430) and got a bit of belt slipping that allowed 6400 rpm but once that stopped it steadied at 5800. Not really what I expected as I figured rpm would go up a lot more. However after running the engine at full power for a a good 5 minutes if was apparent that the CHT's were staying a lot lower. The front fan side cylinder only went as high as 365 and stopped climbing and the rear cylinder only went to 408 which is slightly over the 400 redline. The EGT's however went to 1400 so perhaps my jetting is a bit lean. I need to find my notes on what the various EGT's &CHT's mean to see what needs to be done next. I also noticed that there seemed to be significantly more static thrust. Looks like I'm getting closer to solving the engine problems. -------- Ray Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202) Moni MotorGlider Schreder HP-11 Glider Riverside County, CA Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185023#185023 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:31 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: John Williamson From: "jimhefner" I received the tragic news by email here in China and am in total shock and disbelief!! John was a very special man and will be sorely missed by all of us who had the opportunity to have met and know him. I'll always remember his smiling face and the many times he shared his "war stories" at MV. I know he died doing what he loved most but it doesn't make the news of his passing any easier. My condolences to all his close friends and family. I'm blessed to have made his acquaintance on several occasions and have many fond memories that I will always remember. He was a true gentleman. This is very shocking news! -------- Jim Hefner Tucson, AZ Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185027#185027 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:54 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: turtles From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" Dana wrote: << "Kolb Turtle" is what happens when you land in a plowed field... >> ... or a lake bed that LOOKS dry, but is actually mud beneath a thin layer of dry crust. Guess how I know this?! Dennis Kirby Do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:40 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: John Hauck going home Gang, John Hauck departed the Rock House at 0927 Mt time this morning for his return home. Jackpot Nev will be his first stop, then on a basically straight course for Alabama. Larry C do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:29 AM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon- Update From: "Clayton, James" Good morning all, My father John and I are shocked and saddened at this terrible news. We both considered him a friend and trusted advisor. We do take great comfort in Ken's words below: >>what we do know is that John was a good pilot who left this world quickly, without suffering and doing what he truly loved to do. >>One cannot ask for much more than that. However knowing, sadly, it will not mitigate the suffering of his family and closest friends. John: you will be missed and never forgotten. -Jim and John Clayton Jim Clayton Clayton Mark-3X, 912ULS.....Building www.quantumwrench.com/Kolb.htm ________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Korenek Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon- Update Kolbers, I just talked to one of the gentlemen who witnessed the accident. It seems that 4 airplanes were out flying around and having a good time committing aviation out in "God's Country" when one of the group needed to relieve himself. It was decided to stop at the Skinner Ranch to take care of business. 3 of the 4 landed while John Williamson decided to stay aloft and circle the field. On about the second time around, one of the guys on the ground looked up and saw John in a steep bank right on the deck. Apparently, the right wingtip caught and it was all over very quickly. One of the guys approached the plane to see John's condition and check for signs of life, but it was apparent that the event was not survivable. I contacted the FAA early this morning and was told that an investigator will arrive on the scene to do the investigation sometime before noon MST. There will be very little more information until the formal findings are published by the NTSB/FAA. At this point, we do not know what happened. Anything said is purely speculation. And actually, we may never know exactly what happened. But, what we do know is that John was a good pilot who left this world quickly, without suffering and doing what he truly loved to do. One cannot ask for much more than that. Ken Korenek Arlington, Texas 817-657-6500 cell 817-483-8054 home 972-641-5029 work kkorenek@tx.rr.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:41 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Kolb-List: Re: [KolbUltrastar] Update: Engine woes getting solved At 10:56 AM 5/27/2008, Ray wrote: >I ran up the engine (Cuyuna 430) and got a bit of belt >slipping that allowed 6400 rpm but once that stopped >it steadied at 5800. > >The front fan side cylinder only went as high as 365 >and stopped climbing and the rear cylinder only went >to 408 which is slightly over the 400 redline. > >The EGT's however went to 1400 so perhaps my jetting >is a bit lean. > >I need to find my notes on what the various EGT's >&CHT's mean to see what needs to be done next... Ray, I would measure the angle and calculate the pitch before cutting any more, though it does sound like you're on the right track. You may also be lean; the max allowable EGT is 1275 but best power is at 1200. Hmmm... same exhaust on both motors? Any chance of a blockage? -Dana -- Balance the budget--declare politicians a game species. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:11 PM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: john williamson From: "Gherkins Tim" I am finally able to write about Johns passing. When I came to work early 5:00am yesterday and noticed Kens post my heart literally sank, I could hardly breath. With dry cotton mouth I immediately called uncle Craig and relayed the news and we both sat on the phone speechless. John is such a wonderful person and always kind to uncle Craig and myself. It pains me to think we wont have him around. I am very grateful to know him. My condolences go to his wife, family and many friends. Tim Gherkins Firestar II (ready to fly, but really hesitating) do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:15 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Hauck going home John just called, he is in Brigham City getting ready to depart for Rock Springs. Larry C do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Kolb-List: John Hauck going home Gang, John Hauck departed the Rock House at 0927 Mt time this morning for his return home. Jackpot Nev will be his first stop, then on a basically straight course for Alabama. Larry C do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 5/27/2008 1:25 PM ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:41:50 PM PST US From: "LARRY JUDY GITT" Subject: Kolb-List: John Williamson I'm in shock, John was a great help to me when I first flew my Kolbra. We all loved his adventures and all the pictures. It's really hard to believe it's happened. My prayers go out to the family and John's many friends, Larry G ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:54 PM PST US From: Flycrazy8@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: John Williamson John Williamson I met him and was blessed by knowing him. My prayers go for him and his family and friends. stephen baxley kolb firefly " I don't fear dying , I fear not living " do not archive **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:09 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: John Williamson Autobiography Wow! What a biography. I only met John once, and that was at last years fathers day picnic at Homer Kolb's farm in Phoenixville, Pa., but I really didn't know him. Just thinking that he flew all the way from Tx to Pa for the picnic impressed me. Now, reading his biography, I am even more impressed. His service to this country is outstanding. May God bless him and keep him. My condolences to all affected. Bill Varnes In a message dated 5/26/2008 6:32:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lbuckley122@comcast.net writes: Biography John A. Williamson **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:55 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: John Williamson Autobiography From: "John H Murphy" I met John for the first time at the Jean airport in Nevada last year (in May?) when I was considering buying his Kolbra. He spent the night in a small tent out at the Jean airport next to his aircraft. We had breakfast together and talked about flying and our experiences in the Army. A very special man. John will be sorely missed by all who new him. 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