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1. 04:04 AM - Re: John Hauck going home (icrashrc)
2. 06:20 AM - Re: Re: John Hauck going home (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
3. 06:34 AM - Fw: Re: John Hauck going home (Jim Hauck)
4. 06:53 AM - Re: John Williamson ()
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, (boyd)
6. 07:17 AM - John H returns (boyd)
7. 07:34 AM - Fathers Day Fly-in (TK)
8. 07:40 AM - Re: John Williamson (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
9. 07:41 AM - John Williamson (Dana Labhart)
10. 07:55 AM - Re: Re: Firestar Project aka birthdays (pj.ladd)
11. 08:16 AM - Re: John Hauck going home (Larry Cottrell)
12. 02:17 PM - Fw: Kolb list Posting (Larry Cottrell)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: John Williamson (N27SB@aol.com)
14. 03:56 PM - Re: Fathers Day Fly-in (Steven Green)
15. 04:46 PM - 42 Old Coot ( Richard ) (planecrazzzy)
16. 06:24 PM - Re: 42 Old Coot ( Richard ) (robert bean)
17. 07:11 PM - Ken Korenek (Arksey@aol.com)
18. 07:44 PM - Re: Fathers Day Fly-in (Dana Hague)
19. 08:58 PM - John W (Nelson, Craig)
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| Subject: | Re: John Hauck going home |
John,
Please do your best to remain focused on your way home. Thank you,
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: John Hauck going home |
My thoughts and prayers are also with John Hauck. This must be a lonely and
grief-stricken flight for him. I don't know if I would have had the guts to
get in the plane and fly home.
In a message dated 5/28/2008 5:05:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
icrashrc@aol.com writes:
John,
Please do your best to remain focused on your way home. Thank you,
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: John Hauck going home |
Y'all;
I talked to Brother John yesterday. He is doin fine and taking his time
returning home. He should be home by Friday.
Jim Hauck
My thoughts and prayers are also with John Hauck.
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| Subject: | Re: John Williamson |
Hi gang.
So sorry to hear of the tragic loss of John W. I had the pleasure of
meeting John at several fly-ins. What a wonderful man. My sympathy goes out
to his family, friends, and fellow flying buddies, such as John H. and
others. He will be missed by many. My prayers go out to all.
Bob Griffin
Berne NY
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| Subject: | Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, |
Ken,
John H stopped by here yesterday and we had a chance to visit,, and he
mentioned what a tremendous help you have been through all this. Thought
you would like to know.
My wife and I would like to send a card or something, I am sure that
anything we can do from here would be inadequate.
The last information I have for John is
1506 Antelope Run
Arlington TX 76002
Is this address still correct?
We would like to come out for the funeral but we don't think we would be
able to make it. But we need to do something, the conformation of the
address will help.
Boyd Young
Brigham City Ut.
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I was out to the Brigham airport yesterday working on a water problem at one
of the fbo's when one of the workers pointed to a kolb on short final.
I looked up and saw John H,,, quickly dropped all my tools and announced I
would be right back. drove down to the gas pumps and visited for 15 min or
so. After saying our good buys I went back to work after calling my wife
to tell her to look up. She did not answer as she was outside already,,,,
her first thought was I was taking a afternoon flight, but my engine did not
sound just right, Johns 912s with the different exhaust system sounds,
according to my wife, exactly the same only different. When I returned
home I had 2 sets of neighbors tell me that they had seen me fly over. I
had to smile and tell them it was my friend.
A bitter sweet afternoon.
Boyd Young
Kolb MkIII C 500 + hours and counting
Brigham City Utah.
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| Subject: | Fathers Day Fly-in |
Fellow Kolber's
At a time when we all are reeling from the loss of one of our own, John
Williamson. I find myself in the position of having to ask the Kolb
List group to let me know if your attending the Fathers Day Fly-in at
Homer and Clara's farm. When speaking to Clara, she asked if we were
still going through with the fly-in and I told her that I thought that
John would want it to still happen. The Kolb's are also stunned and
saddened at the news of John Williamson leaving us.
If you would please respond as to your intention to come to the fly-in
it will help them plan for the picnic they so generously provide each
time at.
For those that wish to camp out either Friday before that Saturday or
the evening after the fly-in, here are the choices as I know of them.
That same weekend, Friday through Sunday, there is an Ultralight fly-in
at Shreveport North in York County, PA about 77 miles to the west. Some
of us will be going there after the fly-in at Homer's Saturday afternoon
to camp that night. Then there is Smoketown Airport just east of
Lancaster, PA which is a very friendly airport where they will let you
camp and there are restrooms open 24 hr.s and places to eat within
walking distance. Smoketown is 36 miles west of Homer's. Also, Gene
Zimmerman has offered to have you stay at his place, a farm northwest of
Lancaster just east of Elizabethtown. Ask him and he will provide
directions, he on the List. He is about 54 miles from Homer's and a
good host. Last, there is my airstrip, Hideaway Airpark, listed on the
Washington sectional. It is a nice quiet place to camp and we can have
a large bonfire there. No restroom facilities other than the woods, but
my home is near by if needed and we could have a nice barbecue. I can
also supply transportation into the local town for anything else that
might be needed. My airstrip is southwest and 36 miles to Homer's also
and 11 miles south of Smoketown. These are better alternatives than
imposing on the Kolb's hospitality further by asking them to camp at
their place!
Saturday morning many will group up at Smoketown airport to make a large
flight to Homer's. Usually we try to leave there by 9 am. I understand
he really enjoys it when the sky is full of his airplanes above his
field. Other type planes are also welcome.
Hope you are making plans to attend and looking forward to seeing you
there!!! Please let me know so that I may inform Clara as to an
approximate number. Thank you!
Again, it is difficult to post this request in the present situation. I
know John Williamson and John Hauck with Steve Green were planning on
flying up here together for this. May his family find some comfort in
knowing how many people he touched and admired him! I was one!!
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: John Williamson |
Kolb Friends -
I am shocked, and saddened to hear the news from Ken K. John was always
willing and happy to go the extra mile to accommodate anyone who needed
his help.
I remember an occasion at Monument Valley two years ago where my
9-year-old son and I were about to go on a local flight, and wanted
someone to fly wingman with us to take pictures of us in our Mark-3. We
were working out some radio problems while everybody else had already
taken off for their morning flights, including John. By the time we
fixed our radio, folks had already returned and nobody wanted to go fly
again to accompany us. Except John. He cheerfully volunteered to go up
again to take some air-to-air pictures of us. I will cherish those
pictures forever.
Our heartfelt condolences to Mrs Williamson, the rest of John's family
and his many friends. We'll miss you, John!
Dennis Kirby
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My God!! What a loss. I feel short of words, but will work on
making it through this because I want to convey my condolences
to the family and friends of John Williamson.
Having walked in those shoes recently, I understand how what a
difficult time this is and it makes me cry for the loss and the
family. I know how touching these words of condolences can
be at a time like this. John was a "Top Notch" guy. Norm and I
had the privilege to know him and fly with him for a short bit on
the way to Oshkosh 2004.
He was always compassionate, understanding and friendly when
we met at the Kolb Homecomings after my loss of Norm when
many others didn't know what to say. I loved him for that.
I would like to extend a giant HEART HUG to the family. I know these
times are tough and hugs help. I will pray for God to give you strength
to get through.
However difficult, it is a comfort to know he may be going through
heaven's gates after being blessed enough to be able to do and go
with what he loved doing.
It is also a comfort to know how many peoples lives he touched
and how many appreciated him for the high caliber person he
was through and through.
HE WILL BE SADLY, SADLY MISSED.
Love to the family.....
Dana Labhart
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Project aka birthdays |
Bob Noyer.
Anyone any news? He was very ill the last time we were in contact
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: John Hauck going home |
I just talked to John and he is most likely weathered in at Laramie Wy.
for a while. There is coffee there so he is happy.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Fw: Kolb list Posting |
----- Original Message -----
From: Korenek, Ken
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Kolb list Posting
Larry,
Kindly post this to the list for me. I can't post it from work and
with the amount of time I have spent on matters other than work, I will
be here late tonight. I wanted this to go as sooner.
Thanks,
Ken
Kolbers,
The process of making all the final arrangements is going slowly. The
distance to the crash site and the remoteness of the area is adding to
the delays and difficulties.
The family is holding up as well as can be expected for such an
unexpected event. John's youngest son, Gabriel, is a contractor in
Iraq and is due home later today. His oldest son, Jason, lives just a
few miles away and has been by his mother's side since the news broke.
John's sister, Grace is here now and has taken the lead in making the
arrangements, tying up all the loose ends and getting everything to fall
into place. She is concentrating on the business at hand so that the
other family members can concentrate on healing. I have stepped back
into a supportive and advisory roll, just as it should be. I am amused
at how much John and his sister are alike. She has the same "take
charge and let's get this done" personality that John had and this
process will take place with the dignity and efficiency that it needs
and deserves. At one point yesterday during the long session with the
funeral director, I sat back and thought to myself, "You know, it is
almost as if John is here taking care of his final business himself."
Currently, the NTSB has completed its survey of the wreckage and crash
site and has released the airframe for salvage. I had a long
conversation with the chief investigator and he thinks he can publish
the final report in as soon as 6 to 9 months. (See Link: NTSB.GOV,
Aviation, Accident database, NTSB ID# SEA08LA138)
The typically required autopsy is scheduled to be performed today and
when completed, the body will be transported back to Arlington. Right
now, we think everything will fall into place and a chapel service
followed by a procession to the Dallas-Fort Worth National Cemetery for
a full honors military burial will occur on Tuesday, but that day is
still tentative; much has to occur before that date can be finalized.
This is where things stand today. Everything is still very
preliminary. Once the remains are released for transport, things will
fall into place very quickly and dates and times will be determined. I
will post that information as soon as they are set.
I have volunteered to write the eulogy to be read by the Military
Chaplin officiating at the civil service. I will concentrate on how
John touched and made a difference in my life and the lives of those who
knew him. I need your help; any input you guys may offer will help me
produce a eulogy befitting of John's life and memory. In turn, I will
post it here on the list as a final tribute to John. Your stories will
all be kept private and I will show everything received only to John's
wife, Beverly and if appropriate, to the immediate family. I am not a
professional writer, so any input will be welcomed.
Send to: kkorenek@tx.rr.com
Barring any unexpected events, this will be the last update until all
the times and dates are finalized.
Ken Korenek
Arlington, Texas
kkorenek@tx.rr.com
cell: 817-657-6500
home: 817-483-8054
work: 972-641-5029
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| Subject: | Re: John Williamson |
It is with a heavy heart that I offer my most sincere condolences to John
Williamson=99s family and friends and the Kolb family. I was saddened
to learn
of John=99s accident from Steve Boetto, and I know the sadness this br
ings to
many. I can only image how much John will be missed by his family and the K
olb
family. He was a joyful man to know. In time, may all good memories ease th
e
sadness of his family and friends.
Sincerely,
Mary Jones, EAA Publications
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| Subject: | Re: Fathers Day Fly-in |
Terry,
I am still planning to fly up for the fly-in and camp somewhere Thursday
through Saturday nights.
The last few days have been really tough after hearing the news of John
Williamson. My best aviation memories are the trips that I have taken with
John W. and John H. I will always remember John's smile, his eagerness to
take a kid a ride at the Kolb Homecomings, his sunrise flights, and his
ability to quote the (current) FARs with ease. John was a brilliant man. I
first met him at the Kolb Homecoming, I think 2002, after he finished his
Kolbra, got to know him better on the Outer Banks/Kitty Hawk trip in 2003,
and spent most of a day with him at OSH 2005.
I will sincerely miss him. My prayers are with his family. May God's peace
be with them.
Steven Green
> Fellow Kolber's
>
> At a time when we all are reeling from the loss of one of our own, John
> Williamson. I find myself in the position of having to ask the Kolb List
> group to let me know if your attending the Fathers Day Fly-in at Homer and
> Clara's farm. When speaking to Clara, she asked if we were still going
> through with the fly-in and I told her that I thought that John would want
> it to still happen. The Kolb's are also stunned and saddened at the news
> of John Williamson leaving us.
>
> If you would please respond as to your intention to come to the fly-in it
> will help them plan for the picnic they so generously provide each time
> at.
>
> For those that wish to camp out either Friday before that Saturday or the
> evening after the fly-in, here are the choices as I know of them. That
> same weekend, Friday through Sunday, there is an Ultralight fly-in at
> Shreveport North in York County, PA about 77 miles to the west. Some of
> us will be going there after the fly-in at Homer's Saturday afternoon to
> camp that night. Then there is Smoketown Airport just east of Lancaster,
> PA which is a very friendly airport where they will let you camp and there
> are restrooms open 24 hr.s and places to eat within walking distance.
> Smoketown is 36 miles west of Homer's. Also, Gene Zimmerman has offered
> to have you stay at his place, a farm northwest of Lancaster just east of
> Elizabethtown. Ask him and he will provide directions, he on the List.
> He is about 54 miles from Homer's and a good host. Last, there is my
> airstrip, Hideaway Airpark, listed on the Washington sectional. It is a
> nice quiet place to camp and we can have a large bonfire there. No
> restroom facilities other than the woods, but my home is near by if needed
> and we could have a nice barbecue. I can also supply transportation into
> the local town for anything else that might be needed. My airstrip is
> southwest and 36 miles to Homer's also and 11 miles south of Smoketown.
> These are better alternatives than imposing on the Kolb's hospitality
> further by asking them to camp at their place!
>
> Saturday morning many will group up at Smoketown airport to make a large
> flight to Homer's. Usually we try to leave there by 9 am. I understand
> he really enjoys it when the sky is full of his airplanes above his field.
> Other type planes are also welcome.
>
> Hope you are making plans to attend and looking forward to seeing you
> there!!! Please let me know so that I may inform Clara as to an
> approximate number. Thank you!
>
> Again, it is difficult to post this request in the present situation. I
> know John Williamson and John Hauck with Steve Green were planning on
> flying up here together for this. May his family find some comfort in
> knowing how many people he touched and admired him! I was one!!
>
> Terry - FireFly #95
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 42 Old Coot ( Richard ) |
Where the heck is Richard ( 42 Old poop )
I would have though he would have responded by now....
Is he alright ?
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: 42 Old Coot ( Richard ) |
I believe Mr. Pike became unhappy with some of the posts on this list
and unsubscribed.
I can understand his sentiments as there was a spate of very
discourteous verbage for a while.
BB
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On 28, May 2008, at 7:44 PM, planecrazzzy wrote:
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> Where the heck is Richard ( 42 Old poop )
>
> I would have though he would have responded by now....
>
> Is he alright ?
> .
> .
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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Thank you Ken for posting the info for us in the Kolb group...and also for
helping the family of John's.
Jim Swan firestar ll Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Fathers Day Fly-in |
At 10:32 AM 5/28/2008, TK wrote:
>...If you would please respond as to your intention to come to the fly-in
>it will help them plan for the picnic they so generously provide each time
>at...
I plan on attending, weather, family, and Cuyuna permitting. I'll be
driving in with my UltraStar in tow, unless somebody can suggest a place to
camp overnight and fly in from in eastern PA or NJ northeast of
Homer's. Unfotunately, Shrevport and Smoketown are too far out of my way.
-Dana
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It is with great difficulty I put fingers to the keys of my computer to
give condolences to family and friends of John. He is a wonderful
engaging person. I can't describe how he impacted my enthusiasm for
flight and my shared love of Helicopters and these home built Kolb
aircraft. The first time we met and spent a few moments to get
acquainted in the nose of my trailer in MV 4 years ago. I felt a brother
hood with his interest he expressed not only with words but his
continence, the look he conveyed, that friendly truly interested feel
from his eyes as he would share experiences...we would all enjoy his
demeanor.... The comments on the list....His smile that could bring a
warm sense of isn't this life great!!! Let's get on with it!!!!!!!!!!
To friends and family we can be glad to know and remember John
Uncle craig
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