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1. 06:41 AM - Re: gas (JetPilot)
2. 07:14 AM - William Sullivan accident (olendorf)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: Back Home From PA (TK)
4. 07:16 AM - Re: William Sullivan accident (olendorf)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: gas (Russ Kinne)
6. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (Dana Hague)
7. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (robert bean)
8. 11:07 AM - Proper Flight Instruction (Mike Welch)
9. 11:12 AM - Re: William Sullivan accident (Ralph B)
10. 11:24 AM - Re: Proper Flight Instruction (Ralph B)
11. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: gas (DAquaNut@aol.com)
12. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: Proper Flight Instruction (DAquaNut@aol.com)
13. 11:50 AM - Nice Father's Day (Jack B. Hart)
14. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (william sullivan)
15. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (william sullivan)
16. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (william sullivan)
17. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: Proper Flight Instruction (Jerry Jones)
18. 02:16 PM - Re: William Sullivan accident (planecrazzzy)
19. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (Dana Hague)
20. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (Dana Hague)
21. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (Russ Kinne)
22. 04:12 PM - Re: William Sullivan accident (cristalclear13)
23. 04:32 PM - One less hurdle (cristalclear13)
24. 04:58 PM - Re: One less hurdle (Larry Cottrell)
25. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
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28. 06:47 PM - Re: One less hurdle (Jim Kmet)
29. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: One less hurdle (robert bean)
30. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: William Sullivan accident (Larry Cottrell)
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Dana wrote:
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>
> It varies from state to state. Here in CT the ethanol is required by law.
>
> -Dana
>
> --
> Artificial intelligence usually beats real stupidity.
Most people have never read the law.. Including myself... What I was told that
the law applies to Top Tier gasolines, which are the big ones like shell, chevron,
etc. This allows some ethanol free gas to be produced.
Like I say, it might be total BS, but the test for ethanol is very easy to do.
Going and testing your local BP PREMIUM sure beats some of the other things I
have heard here, it worked for me.
Mike
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have !!!
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| Subject: | William Sullivan accident |
I just saw this come across Google News. I hope Bill is alright.
PALMER, Mass.Authorities say an ultralight plane crashed at the local landing strip
in Palmer, leaving the pilot from Connecticut with minor injuries.
more stories like thisThe Republican newspaper of Springfield reported Sunday that
William Sullivan was rushed to Baystate Medical Center in Springfield, where
his condition was listed as fair.
Police Sgt. Chris Burns says the aircraft flown by the 35-year-old Sullivan of
Windsor Locks, Connecticut, crashed and was destroyed as he attempted to land
on a landing strip next to the former Palmer Municipal Airport.
The landing strip is used by members of the Silver Wing Ultralight Club.
There was no immediate information on possible causes for the crash.
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Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
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| Subject: | Re: Back Home From PA |
Steven Green wrote:
> I arrived back at MMI at about 1530 today. Had a great time and
> enjoyed meeting everyone and visiting with the Frantz's.
>
> Steven
>
> Do not archive
Steven,
Glad your trip back home was uneventful. It was a real pleasure having
you stay with us!
Got to fly over to Shreveport North again yesterday and meet some other
interesting people.
Terry
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
>From CBS3 news;
By Matt DeLucia
Scott Gustafson, Bondsville Fire Chief said William Sullivan, 58, of Windsor Locks
was attempting a landing, when the plane fell out of the sky from about 30
feet, bringing the pilot down with it.
"He was conscious when we arrived and shortly after, the ambulance came to tend
to him," Gustafson said.
Sullivan was taken to Bay State Medical Center. Gustafson said his injuries did
not appear to be too severe at the scene. The plane was destroyed.
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Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
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Jetpilot
Have heard a few variations on testing procedures for ethanol. What's
your preferred method?
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On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:38 AM, JetPilot wrote:
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>
> Dana wrote:
>>
>>
>> It varies from state to state. Here in CT the ethanol is required
>> by law.
>>
>> -Dana
>>
>> --
>> Artificial intelligence usually beats real stupidity.
>
>
> Most people have never read the law.. Including myself... What I
> was told that the law applies to Top Tier gasolines, which are the
> big ones like shell, chevron, etc. This allows some ethanol
> free gas to be produced.
>
> Like I say, it might be total BS, but the test for ethanol is very
> easy to do. Going and testing your local BP PREMIUM sure beats
> some of the other things I have heard here, it worked for me.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
> as you could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188094#188094
>
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
http://www.wwlp.com/Global/story.asp?S=8494399
I really thought he was planning on more instruction, though he was doing
fast taxis. Got too high on a crow hop perhaps and had to go around?
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Sorry to hear about Bill Sullivan's hard landing. I guess we all
indulge in premature speculation,
myself included. "kolb quit" at 30 feet comes to mind.
Whatever the story, I wish William the Brave a speedy recovery.
BB
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On 16, Jun 2008, at 1:18 PM, Dana Hague wrote:
>
> http://www.wwlp.com/Global/story.asp?S=8494399
>
> I really thought he was planning on more instruction, though he was
> doing fast taxis. Got too high on a crow hop perhaps and had to go
> around?
>
> -Dana
> --
> Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate in a pile outside.
>
>
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| Subject: | Proper Flight Instruction |
Kolb guys,
I am sure I am among many, when it comes to feeling sympathy for Bill's recent
mishap. Truly, it was unfortunate. (Bill, I'm sorry to hear about your accident.)
It would appear he over-estimated his abilities, and may not have been ready
for the flight practices he was
engaging in. Sure enough, crap happens, and now he paid a big price for his "jumping
the gun".
Now, before anyone starts complaining about me "kicking a guy when he's down",
I DID THE EXACT SAME THING!!" as Bill did. I was NOT ready to solo an ultralight,
but that didn't stop me from trying. The results were all too common.
Yes, I smashed the ultralight. Yes, I got hurt. Took me weeks to recover.
Thank God I got a second chance. Hurt like a SOB!!
The purpose of this email is to admonish ALL of those who are contemplating flying
their own plane to get competent instruction...and complete the flight training,
before trying to fly their own craft. Just because you had some form
of previous flight training years earlier, like Bill and I had, doesn't mean
you are ready to launch into the wild blue yonder!!
Again, I am sad to hear about Bill, and especially the recent loss of our fellow
Kolber, John W. But, we all need to keep in mind this is a VERY unforgiving
sport we are involved with. It requires the utmost in mechanical maintenance,
proper skill, and sober judgment. Many are counting on us to do our best.
Assume nothing.
Not preaching, just commiserating.
Mike Welch
MkIII building, and not flown yet
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Sorry to hear about Bill, but it sounds like he will be ok.
The news article said this:
"However Sullivan didn't break the law the federal government doesn't require a
license for such a small plane."
This is kind of interesting as the FAA is pretty much in the dark about ultralights/LSA's
and the differences between them.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Proper Flight Instruction |
mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
> Kolb guys,
>
> I am sure I am among many, when it comes to feeling sympathy for Bill's recent
mishap. Truly, it was unfortunate. (Bill, I'm sorry to hear about your accident.)
>
> It would appear he over-estimated his abilities, and may not have been ready
for the flight practices he was
> engaging in. Sure enough, crap happens, and now he paid a big price for his
"jumping the gun".
>
> Now, before anyone starts complaining about me "kicking a guy when he's down",
I DID THE EXACT SAME THING!!" as Bill did. I was NOT ready to solo an ultralight,
but that didn't stop me from trying. The results were all too common.
Yes, I smashed the ultralight. Yes, I got hurt. Took me weeks to recover.
Thank God I got a second chance. Hurt like a SOB!!
>
> The purpose of this email is to admonish ALL of those who are contemplating
flying their own plane to get competent instruction...and complete the flight
training, before trying to fly their own craft. Just because you had some form
of previous flight training years earlier, like Bill and I had, doesn't mean
you are ready to launch into the wild blue yonder!!
>
> Again, I am sad to hear about Bill, and especially the recent loss of our fellow
Kolber, John W. But, we all need to keep in mind this is a VERY unforgiving
sport we are involved with. It requires the utmost in mechanical maintenance,
proper skill, and sober judgment. Many are counting on us to do our best.
Assume nothing.
>
> Not preaching, just commiserating.
>
> Mike Welch
> MkIII building, and not flown yet
>
Mike, this is very good advice and I too flew with only 2 hours of training. I
got lucky and only damaged the gear legs. Even with many hours of flying, we all
need to be "on our toes" as we have recently seen. There is a local pilot that
severed the fingers on his hand in an accident that was completely preventable.
He had many hours logged in his flying career.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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In a message dated 6/16/2008 8:41:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
orcabonita@hotmail.com writes:
Like I say, it might be total BS, but the test for ethanol is very easy to
do. Going and testing your local BP PREMIUM sure beats some of the other
things I have heard here, it worked for me.
Mike
Mike,
From what I understand In Texas, where I live, There is no ethanol free
gas to be had in any big cities in any grade. How ever,I am told at the flying
club meetings, ethanol free can be found in any county that is 2 counties
away from Houston or other major cities in Texas . They claim it reduces
pollution, of which I for one am not convinced. All the pumps in my area say,
may
contain up to 10% ethanol. I have noticed milky crud in my Mr. filter funnel,
a time or two, so it seems to help. Any one in Texas heard otherwise?
Ed Diebel
**************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best
2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)
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| Subject: | Re: Proper Flight Instruction |
In a message dated 6/16/2008 1:25:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ul15rhb@juno.com writes:
Even with many hours of flying, we all need to be "on our toes" as we have
recently seen. There is a local pilot that severed the fingers on his hand in
an accident that was completely preventable. He had many hours logged in his
flying career.
Ralph
This is so true. One of our worst enemy's can be complacency or
lack of fear or respect for what we are doing. This also applies to
maintenance big time! It's a shame it takes tragedy to wake us up and shake
us into
reality, but that's human nature. Lets ALL be careful. Sorry don.t mean to
preach.
Ed Diebel FF# 62 99 hrs (
contemplating 2nd decarb soon)
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| Subject: | Nice Father's Day |
Kolber's
Flew to a Father's Day flyin breakfast at Connersville, Indiana. Had a fun
morning, and then spent the rest of the day with family.
>From my flight log:
"June 15, 2008 - Flights 687 & 8 - 103 minutes, 42 seconds - 241:44 tt,
Victor 1+ 161:44 burned 2.95 gallons for an overall fuel burn of 1.71 gph.
Flew to Connersville and back for their Father's Day flyin breakfast. Very
smooth flight down at 1,500 feet agl. Down at 5,050 rpm, EGT 1,250, burned
1.64 gallons over 57 minutes 5 seconds for 1.72 gph. Coming back 5,000 rpm,
same EGT, burned 1.31 gallons in 46 minutes 37 seconds for 1.69 gph. 34.4
miles point to point gives 23.3 mpg over all, or 21 mpg going and 26.2 mpg
coming back. Average ground speed is 41.1 mph, with 37.5 mph going and 46.3
mph coming back. Some of the EAA members were there. Tim flew in but I did
not get to talk to him. Talked to quite a few of the locals who came out to
see the planes. No problems getting down or off. The radio is not working
very well. I believe my radio head set is going bad."
It was a fun day.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Hi Dana,
This is Bills wife, Norma.
Bill was never intending to get of the ground. He was trying to find out how
fast the Kolb would stop when he hit the kill switch. He got the Kolb up to 2700RPM
then hit the kill switch several times. The last time he got it up to the
speed and a gust of wind lifted the plane. He was at the part of the runway
of no return, he had NO choice but to gun it and go around. He went around and
started his decent but didn't feel right about the decent, so he went around
again. The second time it was a very good approach, but a down draft pushed the
plane down from about 10-15 feet. When he touched down, hard, the landing gear
folded up and the plane cartwheeled then flipped over. Bill has 2 fractures
of his pelvic bone and 2 fractures of his hip, one on both sides. We had just
taken a flying lesson on Friday and Saturday, and he was not ready to leave the
ground. It was not intentional like some are saying. He will be getting another
plane sometime soon.
Thank you for your concern,
Norma
Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.wwlp.com/Global/story.asp?S=8494399
I really thought he was planning on more instruction, though he was doing
fast taxis. Got too high on a crow hop perhaps and had to go around?
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Hi Robert,
I am Bill's wife, Norma.
Bill did not intentionally go up he just got lifted and did not have room to
put down safely, so he went around. The first time he said it didn't feel right
so he went around again. The second time the plane was coming in it was picture
perfect until he was about 10-15 feet from the ground. A downward gust of
wind made his landing harder than he wanted it to be, the landing gear folded
up to the sing strut, the plane cartwheeled then flipped over. The plane is totaled,
but he wants another one. Bill has 2 fractures of his pelvic bone and 2
fractures of his hip bones, one on either side. The Dr's are still deciding what
course of treatment for him.
Thank you for your concern,
Norma
robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
Sorry to hear about Bill Sullivan's hard landing. I guess we all
indulge in premature speculation,
myself included. "kolb quit" at 30 feet comes to mind.
Whatever the story, I wish William the Brave a speedy recovery.
BB
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On 16, Jun 2008, at 1:18 PM, Dana Hague wrote:
>
> http://www.wwlp.com/Global/story.asp?S=8494399
>
> I really thought he was planning on more instruction, though he was
> doing fast taxis. Got too high on a crow hop perhaps and had to go
> around?
>
> -Dana
> --
> Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate in a pile outside.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Hi Ralph,
I am Bill's wife, Norma.
Bill did not intentionally go up he just got lifted and did not have room to
put down safely, so he went around. The first time he said it didn't feel right
so he went around again. The second time the plane was coming in it was picture
perfect until he was about 10-15 feet from the ground. A downward gust of
wind made his landing harder than he wanted it to be, the landing gear folded
up to the sing strut, the plane cartwheeled then flipped over. The plane is totaled,
but he wants another one. Bill has 2 fractures of his pelvic bone and 2
fractures of his hip bones, one on either side. The Dr's are still deciding what
course of treatment for him.
You are so right about the FAA, they really have no clue.
Thank you for your concern,
Norma
Ralph B <ul15rhb@juno.com> wrote:
Sorry to hear about Bill, but it sounds like he will be ok.
The news article said this:
"However Sullivan didn't break the law the federal government doesn't require a
license for such a small plane."
This is kind of interesting as the FAA is pretty much in the dark about ultralights/LSA's
and the differences between them.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Proper Flight Instruction |
> Sold my Firestar to a newly "certified" ultralight pilot who had
> bent the legs on his instructor's plane when landing. Every
> flightof his in "my" Firestar ended the same way, the last mishap
> putting the kabosh on any more flights in it. Makes me think his
> instructor may have certified him to avoid replacing gear on his
> own plane. The first through third flights in my Firestar bent the
> gear from flaring too high. The last happened after several crow
> hops down a very long gravel runway, and a final takeoff to go
> around. Unfortunately there was little runway left before a barbed
> wire fence. When he saw it, he pulled up. That got his mains over
> it. Of course pulling up lowers the tail, so it was the tail that
> snagged the fence and pulled off several hundred feet before the
> Kolb slowed and fell out of the sky. When he called me on his
> cell, I knew it was bad news since every flight had resulted in a
> similar phone call and a mishap. We hopped in a 182 and flew out
> to him. He broke a few bones, which put him out of work for
> awhile...but he's itching to get back into the flying sport again.
> The Kolb is a taildragger and does take a bit more skill. Wish I
> still had it.
Ricochet
Challenger II cw
Avid
Teman
Hiperlight (2)
GT 400
Firestar
Titan II w Jabiru 3300
Skyranger
> Mike, this is very good advice and I too flew with only 2 hours of
> training. I got lucky and only damaged the gear legs. Even with
> many hours of flying, we all need to be "on our toes" as we have
> recently seen. There is a local pilot that severed the fingers on
> his hand in an accident that was completely preventable. He had
> many hours logged in his flying career.
>
> Ralph
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 21 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 0 years flying it
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188144#188144
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
There's been a Kolb Firestar posted "For Sale" on this list a week ago...
You could be flying it with yer cast on....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
.
.
PS Who just said not too long ago...Planes aren't Toys
.
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Hi Norma, thanks for keeping us posted. That sounds about like what I
surmised as I didn't think he had any intention of flying it yet. Anybody
can take off in an ultralight but the landing is a completely different
story as they lose speed a LOT faster than the Ercoupes and C-150 he'd
flown before.
My first trip around the pattern in a weightshift Quicksilver (though it
was intentional) had a similar bad ending.
Give him my best wishes for a speedy recovery... and return to the air.
-Dana
At 04:13 PM 6/16/2008, william sullivan wrote:
>Hi Dana,
>This is Bills wife, Norma.
>Bill was never intending to get of the ground. He was trying to find out...
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
At 02:09 PM 6/16/2008, Ralph B wrote:
>The news article said this:
>
>"However Sullivan didn't break the law the federal government doesn't
>require a license for such a small plane."
>
>This is kind of interesting as the FAA is pretty much in the dark about
>ultralights/LSA's and the differences between them.
Well, Bill's plane was a legal ultralight (or close to it) and there were
other ultralight pilots around to explain things to the reporters and police.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Norma
We all are most concerned about Bill -- and you!
Let us know if there's ANYthing we can do to help.
Sorry our meeting awhile ago was so short, but I enjoyed it --
Russ Kinne
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On Jun 16, 2008, at 4:13 PM, william sullivan wrote:
> Hi Dana,
> This is Bills wife, Norma.
> Bill was never intending to get of the ground. He was trying to
> find out how fast the Kolb would stop when he hit the kill switch.
> He got the Kolb up to 2700RPM then hit the kill switch several
> times. The last time he got it up to the speed and a gust of wind
> lifted the plane. He was at the part of the runway of no return, he
> had NO choice but to gun it and go around. He went around and
> started his decent but didn't feel right about the decent, so he
> went around again. The second time it was a very good approach, but
> a down draft pushed the plane down from about 10-15 feet. When he
> touched down, hard, the landing gear folded up and the plane
> cartwheeled then flipped over. Bill has 2 fractures of his pelvic
> bone and 2 fractures of his hip, one on both sides. We had just
> taken a flying lesson on Friday and Saturday, and he was not ready
> to leave the ground. It was not intentional like some are saying.
> He will be
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
I'm sorry to hear of your accident Bill. Please get well soon. You and Norma
are in our prayers.
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Cristal
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I passed the private pilot written exam today with a 98%. :D
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Cristal Waters
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| Subject: | Re: One less hurdle |
You my dear are an "Over achiever", :-)
Larry C, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: One less hurdle
> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>
> I passed the private pilot written exam today with a 98%. :D
>
>
> do not archive
>
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> Cristal Waters
> Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
Hi Norma great to hear from you that bill will make it to fly again I wish
him a speedy recovery and the same for a plane rebuild
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 6/16/2008 4:43:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
Hi Ralph,
I am Bill's wife, Norma.
Bill did not intentionally go up he just got lifted and did not have room to
put down safely, so he went around. The first time he said it didn't feel
right so he went around again. The second time the plane was coming in it was
picture perfect until he was about 10-15 feet from the ground. A downward gust
of wind made his landing harder than he wanted it to be, the landing gear
folded up to the sing strut, the plane cartwheeled then flipped over. The plane
is totaled, but he wants another one. Bill has 2 fractures of his pelvic
bone and 2 fractures of his hip bones, one on either side. The Dr's are still
deciding what course of treatment for him.
You are so right about the FAA, they really have no clue.
Thank you for your concern,
Norma
Ralph B
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| Subject: | Re: One less hurdle |
Congrats Cristal your on the home stretch now :o)
Ellery
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In a message dated 6/16/2008 7:32:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cristalclearwaters@juno.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "cristalclear13"
<cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
I passed the private pilot written exam today with a 98%. :D
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Cristal Waters
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| Subject: | Re: One less hurdle |
I just LOVE flying and am so HAPPY to have the opportunity (finally) to learn it
and do it! This is me and my goofy grin holding that precious piece of paper
stamped in red with "DO NOT LOSE THIS REPORT".
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| Subject: | Re: One less hurdle |
Cristal, Congrats!!!! We all are infected by your enthusiasm. Thank you
for keeping us posted, your private ticket is not far away!
Jim Kmet
Cookeville, TN
MK-3C (Flying)
Kolbra (Under Construction)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: One less hurdle
> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>
> I passed the private pilot written exam today with a 98%. :D
>
>
> do not archive
>
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> Cristal Waters
> Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: One less hurdle |
She's gotta lot of nerve, eh fellas? Doesn't she know from looking
at some of the list portraiture
that real Kolb drivers are decrepit, infirm, gray or no hair, bad
tempered, don't smell too good either.
She doesn't meet any of these criteria.
well, we will need replacements eventually, guess it's ok
BB
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On 16, Jun 2008, at 8:49 PM, cristalclear13 wrote:
> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>
> I just LOVE flying and am so HAPPY to have the opportunity
> (finally) to learn it and do it! This is me and my goofy grin
> holding that precious piece of paper stamped in red with "DO NOT
> LOSE THIS REPORT".
>
> --------
> Cristal Waters
> Mark II Twinstar
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188208#188208
>
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| Subject: | Re: William Sullivan accident |
the landing gear folded up to the sing strut, the plane cartwheeled
then flipped over. The plane is totaled,
I am afraid that this incident is a common thread with our planes. The
weakest point is the landing gear, and if left stock, is going to cause
you a hell of a lot of trouble and repairs. I have had three incidents
that has illustrated this problem, and while I will not try to tell you
that my own lack of training and downright old fashioned stupidity has
not played a significant role in these incidents, I will tell you that a
lot of the damage could have been avoided by using the steel gear legs
and larger tires. The problem is made worse by the fact that the gear
legs point forward, so if a wheel breaks off, or a alum gear leg breaks
it is going to stab into the ground, or if it just collapses then the
nose is going to dig in and things are going to get ugly pretty fast.
Larry C, Oregon
406 hours Firestar II
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| Subject: | Re: Fly-In To Homers - My Report |
Bill,
Thanks,
Good report of the Homer Kolb Fly-in.
Fourteen planes took off one right after the other at 9:00 am from
Smoketown and flew as a group to Homer Kolb's airstrip, and joined
you and the others already there.
It was good to see you and Alan and everyone again. We all had a
wonderful time despite the crappy visibility and the hot humid weather.
A few of the guys ran into a little rain on the way home to the west,
but it was spotty and most of us made it back home without getting in
any rain.
It was an honor to have Steven Green who flew up from the deep south
again but we missed having John Hauck this year and I appreciated
Homer"s words of recognition of John Williamson who was with us last
year. Of course you and Eddie had the distinction of being the oldest
and youngest pilots to fly in again this year.
I'm eager to see all George Alexander"s pictures of the 2008 Homer
Kolb Fly-in when he gets them posted on his web site.
Thanks again to you, and to all who made it there.
Gene Zimmerman
On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:10 AM, WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com wrote:
> Kolb Group,
>
> Another great fly-in took place at Homer Kolb's home/farm in
> Phoenixville, Pa. on Saturday June 14, 2008.
>
> My personal plan had been to fly from Alloway airport (NJ) to
> Smoketown airport (PA), a flight of about 62 statute miles, to join
> up with the Kolb guys in that area, and then we would all fly en
> mass to Homers. Unfortunately, my flying buddy Alan Mancus, was
> very late getting to the airport and we did not lift off until 7:45
> AM. I had figured about 1-1/2 hours flight time to Smoketown, which
> would put us there about 9:15 AM. Terry (FireFly #95) had said to
> be there by 8:30 AM, since they would be departing at 9 AM. Alan
> and I would have arrived after they left. I then decided to change
> my plan and fly directly to Homers, about 46 sm. The sky was partly
> cloudy and the air was relatively smooth, but the visibility was
> very poor. In fact, Dr Seuss would have probably called it, "Stink,
> Stank, Stunk". We had to deal with the Philadelphia TCA limits on
> our right and Wilmington, De on the left. A few doglegs got us
> through, but if the GPS were to give out, we would have been SOL.
> The underlying terrain is very hostile, in that it is completely
> built up with buildings, roads, oil tank farms and such. Not to
> mention crossing the Delaware River. Scary!
>
> We landed at Kolbs strip about 8:45 AM. George Alexander is always
> there, waiting at the strip to snap those pictures as the Kolb
> planes arrive. George has a nice web site with many pictures of the
> past Homer fly-ins. I suppose he will do so again for this year.
> Homer came out to greet us and shake our hands. His grandchildren
> were running about, sitting in our planes and throwing sticks for
> the dog to chase after. Very soon, the sky filled with the group of
> Kolb planes arriving from Smoketown. What a sight it is to see that
> many Kolbs in the sky at once. It was good to make acquaintance
> with the group again. Did I say how hot it was? The sun was
> sending UV rays down and it was burning our hides. Someone finally
> suggested we go sit down at the tree shaded patio. About 11:30 AM,
> Clara Kolb announced the food was ready to eat and we did.
> Afterwards, we walked around looking at each others planes and
> enjoying the camaraderie.
>
> We should have helped the Kolb family with cleaning up chores, but
> with the threat of thunderstorms in the area for the afternoon, most
> of us were getting a little anxious to get started home. And so,
> one by one the planes took off and headed out. The visibility
> hadn't improved very much and I could hear a lot of chatter going on
> over the radio about where so and so was, and where was Wilmer?
> Alan and I had to deal with the TCA again to get back across the
> Delaware River to NJ. We made it home and I for one was tuckered
> out. I had been up since 4:30 AM, as I have a 1 hour drive just to
> get to the airport and about 45 minutes to get the plane out of the
> hangar and set up for flight, because I fold the wings every time.
> And then the same thing to put it away and drive home.
>
> So, many thanks to the Kolb Family for their hospitality and to
> Terry Frantz for coordinating the event. I really enjoyed it!
>
> Bill Varnes
> Original Kolb FireStar
> Audubon NJ
>
>
> Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008.
>
>
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