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1. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar (pj.ladd)
2. 02:48 AM - ...olb-List: Re: Why Teach Out Dated Stuff (pj.ladd)
3. 02:48 AM - Re: Subject Changed To Protect The Innocent! (pj.ladd)
4. 03:04 AM - Re: Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar (pj.ladd)
5. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar (gary aman)
6. 07:34 AM - Pilot Error (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 09:27 AM - why can't I see photos (Lee/Cannon)
8. 11:53 AM - Re: why can't I see photos (Russ Kinne)
9. 12:43 PM - Re: why can't I see photos (possums)
10. 12:54 PM - Re: Pilot Error (pj.ladd)
11. 12:56 PM - Re: Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar (pj.ladd)
12. 01:53 PM - Re: Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar (Jerry Jones)
13. 02:01 PM - Re: why can't I see photos (planecrazzzy)
14. 02:14 PM - Re: why can't I see photos (robert bean)
15. 03:05 PM - Re: why can't I see photos (possums)
16. 03:59 PM - Re: ...olb-List: Re: Why Teach Out Dated Stuff (knowvne@aol.com)
17. 05:10 PM - Re: why can't I see photos (robcannon)
18. 05:10 PM - Re: why can't I see photos (Matt Dralle)
19. 06:20 PM - Aileron Spades, Lighten Stick Forces and Improve Roll Rates. (JetPilot)
20. 06:59 PM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (Denny Rowe)
21. 08:49 PM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (Denny Rowe)
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| Subject: | Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar |
"Taking the bull by the horns is a good way to get gored."
Hi John,Good one. I will remember that. After all my good advice to Cristal
about being properly prepared, I had to get it all wrong.
<<Over the years I have been flying Kolbs, I have made it a hard and fast
rule to test fly the airplane solo before I put an innocent passenger in the
other seat.>>
I had flown the day before. What I hadn`t done was fly since my oil change.
I dont see quite how , until I investigate further, but I suspect that the
low pressure and the high temps were related to the oil change somehow. Hot
oil on the sensor perhaps?
I drained the oil out yesterday and only refilled to a much lower level.
Ground ran the engine for a long period (It was too rough to fly) and
evrything seems OK. I good grind around the patch within gliding distance of
my strip seems to be indicated before going further. Luckily most of the
hayfields are cut so there are plenty of big field to put her down in if the
worst happens.
I managed not to scare my passenger anyhow. . He rang me up to thank me for
the flight and asked to fly again.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: ...olb-List: Re: Why Teach Out Dated Stuff |
.Its so light that an Ultralite can tow it...>>
Hi Mark
I think that is done pretty regularly here.
The rest of your post just shows how out of touch I am.
Back to Kolbs
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Subject Changed To Protect The Innocent! |
Patrick/Mark:
Don't ya think you all are getting a bit far from Kolb related subject
matter?>>
Quite right John. I consider my wrist slapped.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar |
Pat, Thanks for sharing your experience.>>
Hi Cristal,
Glad you liked it, and learned from it, I hope.. At least my stupidity can
do someone a bit of good.
They say that bad things happen in threes. In this case It was 1) Absolutely
zero wind, 2) Not putting in enough trim to compensate for the passenger
weight. 3) Missing the flap setting from my interrupted Check list.
Good .luck. Keep us posted with your progress.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar |
Pat,
What powers your Kolb?
----- Original Message ----
From: pj.ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:39:25 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar
"Taking the bull by the horns is a good way to get gored."
Hi John,Good one. I will remember that. After all my good advice to Cristal
about being properly prepared, I had to get it all wrong.
<<Over the years I have been flying Kolbs, I have made it a hard and fast
rule to test fly the airplane solo before I put an innocent passenger in the
other seat.>>
I had flown the day before. What I hadn`t done was fly since my oil change.
I dont see quite how , until I investigate further, but I suspect that the
low pressure and the high temps were related to the oil change somehow. Hot
oil on the sensor perhaps?
I drained the oil out yesterday and only refilled to a much lower level.
Ground ran the engine for a long period (It was too rough to fly) and
evrything seems OK. I good grind around the patch within gliding distance of
my strip seems to be indicated before going further. Luckily most of the
hayfields are cut so there are plenty of big field to put her down in if the
worst happens.
I managed not to scare my passenger anyhow. . He rang me up to thank me for
the flight and asked to fly again.
Cheers
Pat
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With all this non Kolb stuff I figured I could send this. I didn't write
this.
My ex-wife started taking flying lessons about the time our
divorce started and she got her license shortly before our divorce was
final, later that same year.
Yesterday afternoon, she narrowly escaped injury in the aircraft she
was piloting when she was forced to make an emergency landing in
Southern Tennessee because of bad weather. Thank God our kids were with
me at the Beach House this weekend.
The NTSB issued a preliminary report, citing pilot error: Judy was
flying a single engine aircraft in IFR (instrument flight rating)
conditions while only having obtained a VFR (visual flight rating)
rating.
The absence of a post-crash fire was likely due to insufficient fuel
on board. No one on the ground was injured.
The photograph below was taken at the scene and shows the extent of
damage to her aircraft.
She was very lucky.
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| Subject: | why can't I see photos |
Can anyone tell me why I can't see photos which people attach ? thanks,
Rob
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| Subject: | Re: why can't I see photos |
May be a PC-Mac problem. I think most of us have the same problem.
Right now I can't SEND any
do not archive
On Jun 25, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Lee/Cannon wrote:
> Can anyone tell me why I can't see photos which people attach ?
> thanks, Rob
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: why can't I see photos |
At 02:48 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:
>May be a PC-Mac problem. I think most of us have the same problem.
>Right now I can't SEND any
>do not archive
I sometimes I attach one & a completely different one shows up, like
this picture of "Marilyn Monroe".
do not archive
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With all this non Kolb stuff I figured I could send this.>>
Watch it. John H will be after you. Very funny though. Still chuckling
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar |
What powers your Kolb?
I have a Jabiru. The only engine which is cleared for use on the Xtra in
the UK. The others put the weight above the ultralight limit.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Adding a passenger to the Twinstar |
Pat,
What prop are you using with your Jab and how many blades? Three
blades on a pusher are reported to be considerably quieter than two,
but wooden props are normally recommended, though perhaps difficult
to find. I've got a Jab on another bird and am considering hanging
it on a Kolb, but not certain which one. Kinda miss the Firestar I
had and slewing sideways in a crosswind now and then.
Jerry
On Jun 25, 2008, at 12:54 PM, pj.ladd wrote:
> What powers your Kolb?
>
> I have a Jabiru. The only engine which is cleared for use on the
> Xtra in the UK. The others put the weight above the ultralight limit.
>
> Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: why can't I see photos |
Maybe your on the "OLD" kolb list...???
The New one shows the pictures...
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: why can't I see photos |
I found that pic disturbing....
-but then I have been breathing paint fumes all day.
BB
do not archive
On 25, Jun 2008, at 3:40 PM, possums wrote:
> At 02:48 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:
>> May be a PC-Mac problem. I think most of us have the same problem.
>> Right now I can't SEND any
>> do not archive
>
>
> I sometimes I attach one & a completely different one shows up, like
> this picture of "Marilyn Monroe".
>
> do not archive
>
> <Marilyn Monroe.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: why can't I see photos |
At 05:12 PM 6/25/2008, you wrote:
>I found that pic disturbing....
>-but then I have been breathing paint fumes all day.
>BB
>do not archive
Step back about 10 or 15 ft from the screen & look again.
>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: ...olb-List: Re: Why Teach Out Dated Stuff |
Yes even a KOLB with a Tow hook =C2-could tow it up.. 8-)
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: pj.ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 5:44 am
Subject: Kolb-List: ...olb-List: Re: Why Teach Out Dated Stuff
.Its so light that an Ultralite can tow
it...>>
=C2-
Hi Mark
=C2-
I think that is done pretty regularly
here.
=C2-
The rest of your post just shows how out of touch I
am.
=C2-
Back to Kolbs
=C2-
Cheers
=C2-
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: why can't I see photos |
thanks, folks.........I think it was the "old list"
cheers, Rob [Wink]
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| Subject: | Re: why can't I see photos |
Are you reading from the Digest version of the Email distribution? Photos are not included in the Digest version, only the Real-time version of the email distribution. Pictures are always available in the Forums version of the List: http://forums.matronics.com
Matt
At 11:48 AM 6/25/2008 Wednesday, you wrote:
>May be a PC-Mac problem. I think most of us have the same problem.
>Right now I can't SEND any
>do not archive
>
>
>On Jun 25, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Lee/Cannon wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me why I can't see photos which people attach ? thanks, Rob
>>
>>
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>Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
>925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | Aileron Spades, Lighten Stick Forces and Improve Roll Rates. |
The roll forces on my MK III have always been heavy which is annoying but flyable
since the Kolb is very stable... My biggest concern is that the rate of roll
on my MK III Xtra has always been pretty slow, which can be dangerous in certain
situations. I have always felt that if I got banked sharply close to the
ground such as in wake turbulence or in a Rotor off a hanger that I would have
a hard time rolling the plane back to level quickly.
I have seen where a number of people have done mods to their Kolbs to give more
mechanical advantage to moving the ailerons, which helps reduce the stick forces
for normal slow roll rates, but it useless for improving the rate of roll.
The problem is that the aileron actuator tube that runs from the cage along
the trailing edge of the wing to the aileron will twist instead of moving the
aileron if a large movement is commanded in flight. If you want to test this
for yourself, move the stick to each limit on the ground, and watch how much
your aileron deflects... Then move the stick to each limit in flight in the air
and you will see that the aileron deflects less than half of what it did on
the ground, that is the tube twisting which acts like a spring in the stick...
Essentially most of the stick travel is being wasted in the spring effect of
the tube twisting instead of moving the aileron.
My solution was to put Aileron Spades on my MK III Xtra. Spades use aerodynamic
forces actually make the aileron deflect easier, not just a mechanical advantage,
so the aileron actuator tube twisting is much less of a problem. I designed
the spade brackets to fit right on to the aileron tube, and had Kolb fabricate
them. Dennis at Kolb did an incredible job of making a very strong steel
bracket that makes my spades more rigid than the spades found 200 MPH Decathlon
that shares my hanger. Each spade is attached to its aileron tube with 48
rivets and leveled to within 1/3 of a degree to the bottom of each aileron.
Spades are common and used on many different type of aircraft, including some
airplanes that are in the same weight and speed speed class as our Kolbs ( Many
Rans Models and others ). Aileron spades are a well tested, accepted, and
proven way to make aileron forces lighter. As with anything in aviation, close
attention must be paid to detail with this modification... A poorly mounted,
or incorrectly positioned spade will very possibly result in an uncontrollable
roll and a crash.
The spades have helped lighten the roll forces of the MK III considerably, I now
feel very good about the rate of roll, with the added benefit of light feeling
ailerons that are more balanced with the light forces of the elevator. I
am also much happier with the way my Kolb feels and flies with the addition of
spades, it also feels much better in turbulence since I have the ability to quickly
and easily correct any banks caused by conditions. Very thorough flight
testing, and many hours of normal flying have shown the addition of aileron spades
on my Kolb to work very well with no undesirable results. Attached are
some pictures.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs |
Richard,
If you still have the gear legs I am finally ready to pay up.
I recall the price was $250 plus $25 shipping.
Let me know if you still want to sale them and I will get a check in the
mail.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs
Yep, still on my "parts I'll use someday" rack.
Rick
On 7/16/07, Denny Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net > wrote:
Rich,
Do you still have the gear legs?
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs
Colder than a well digger's knee caps here, I woosed out last
night, but got a picture today. Still in TNK tape and factory insert up
to here lines.
Rick
On 2/1/07, Denny Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net> wrote:
Are "these"
----- Original Message -----
From: Denny Rowe
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs
Are this legs for a Mk-3 Classic?
Do you still have them?
Pic?
Denny Rowe
rowedenny@windstream.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs
When I was in the midst of main gear straightening caused by
my horrible landing technique, I thought the way out was TNK's steel
gear legs. Now that I am pretty happy with my landings, I know I'm not
going to install them. $350 for the pair, plus shipping.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs |
Guys and Gals,
Sorry about that last post, did not mean for it to be on the list.
Denny
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