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1. 04:59 AM - Re: Kolb Sales (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
2. 06:10 AM - Re: Kolb Sales (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
3. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: Quiet Kolb (Robert Laird)
4. 07:06 AM - Re: Quiet Kolb (lucien)
5. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Quiet Kolb (Russ Kinne)
6. 11:26 AM - Yahoo! Auto Response (thewanderingwench@yahoo.com)
7. 11:58 AM - Re: Re: Quiet Kolb (gary aman)
8. 12:15 PM - Re: Aileron Spades, Lighten Stick Forces and Improve Roll Rates. (JetPilot)
9. 12:22 PM - Re: Kolb Sales (JetPilot)
10. 01:39 PM - Re: Yahoo! Auto Response (JetPilot)
11. 02:08 PM - Re: Quiet Kolb (cristalclear13)
12. 02:10 PM - Re: Quiet Kolb (cristalclear13)
13. 03:36 PM - Re: Yahoo! Auto Response (chris davis)
14. 08:00 PM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (Richard Pike)
15. 10:03 PM - aviation pioneer (robert bean)
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al, this is donnie at kolb aircraft, let me know what date you can be at
kolb and i will have something set up for you, sorry i was not here at the
time you called, e-mail me your plan to be here. thank you for your
interest in kolb. donnie.
----- Original Message -----
From: "alking50" <alking737@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:26 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Sales
>
> I recent retired (2nd time) and have been doing my research for a build
and fly project. The Kolb MrkIII Extra is definitely a finalist. Since I
live in Asia I have not had an opportunity to see and fly one. I called the
factory to make an appointment to come there for a look and to test fly the
Extra. Dennis told me it was doubtful if I could fly one because there is
no qualified pilot around. I explained that I was going to travel 8000
miles to come see and make my final decision based on what I saw and how it
flew. He just said I cant promise you any thing but I'll make a call or
two.
>
> Just makes me wonder how they ever imagine selling an airplane with out a
test flight. Did they ever make a call to their competition? They have a
totally different attitude even offering transportation and lodging. Maybe
he did not think I was serious but seems if a guy will travel that far he
may be a little interested. Well I changed m plans and will go see another
aircraft. I will be in Seattle area July 10 to 14 and would love to make
contact with an owner around there. I would appreciate any help in that
regard. I still like the airplane but...
>
> Al. King
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189887#189887
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----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb Sales
<customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>
> al, this is donnie at kolb aircraft, let me know what date you can be at
> kolb and i will have something set up for you, sorry i was not here at the
> time you called, e-mail me your plan to be here. thank you for your
> interest in kolb. donnie.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "alking50" <alking737@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:26 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Sales
>
>
> >
> > I recent retired (2nd time) and have been doing my research for a build
> and fly project. The Kolb MrkIII Extra is definitely a finalist. Since I
> live in Asia I have not had an opportunity to see and fly one. I called
the
> factory to make an appointment to come there for a look and to test fly
the
> Extra. Dennis told me it was doubtful if I could fly one because there is
> no qualified pilot around. I explained that I was going to travel 8000
> miles to come see and make my final decision based on what I saw and how
it
> flew. He just said I cant promise you any thing but I'll make a call or
> two.
> >
> > Just makes me wonder how they ever imagine selling an airplane with out
a
> test flight. Did they ever make a call to their competition? They have a
> totally different attitude even offering transportation and lodging.
Maybe
> he did not think I was serious but seems if a guy will travel that far he
> may be a little interested. Well I changed m plans and will go see
another
> aircraft. I will be in Seattle area July 10 to 14 and would love to make
> contact with an owner around there. I would appreciate any help in that
> regard. I still like the airplane but...
> >
> > Al. King
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189887#189887
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:06 PM, cristalclear13
<cristalclearwaters@juno.com> wrote:
(who ever had the "brilliant" idea of building a prison right next to
an airport I'll never know).
Cristal --
In 2003, I flew into an airport at Newport, Arkansas. Apparently, it
was at one time an Air Force base, so it was very large. Even the
shortest of its three runways is long enough for me to takeoff and
land on about three or four times. But the oddest feature is, on the
approach to runway 04, there is a prison. I don't mean it's close by,
I mean it's on the approach! I decided not to fly over it directly,
but that means I'm approaching my touch-down spot at a 45-degree
angle, so I had to make a fairly sharp turn to line up with the runway
once I was clear of the prison.
-- Robert
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&ie=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&msid=101773101841869726868.000450a5d63f109a051a0&ll=35.634279,-91.185665&spn=0.039205,0.063171&z=14
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Theres a prison here in Santa Fe, about 4NM to the SE. In fact, it's a very commonly
used waypoint for position reports to the tower.
The worst part is it looks very much like the airport at night and many of the
locals report approaching to land at the prison, mistaking it for the airport
until the last minute.
I never took the FS II over it and avoid it even in the titan. I wouldn't want
to put down anywhere near it.
As for a quiet Kolb, mine had the 3.47:1 C box cranking a 68" 3 blade warp drive.
It was a fair bit quieter than my friend's FSII back in TX. He ran the 2.58:1
b box spinning a TPI woodie.
I have used the Rotax aftermuffler and intake silencers. They do a surprisingly
good job of hushing up the motor. I'd have loved to have tried them on my FSII.
As for the 912, not much choice unless you can somehow fit a can muffler on top
of the engine. Mine is louder than my 2-stroke ever was by far. The locals can
hear me approaching the airport even while I'm still outside the class D......
LS
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LS
FS II
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FWIW, from what I've seen, sometimes the prison was there first,
and sometimes the airport was first. But all prisons are leery of
aircraft flying overhead, lest some idiot pilot drop knives, guns, or
a gross of razor blades in the prison .
Good idea not to overfly any of them
Looks like plenty of room to avoid the prison & turn a short final.
do not archive
On Jun 27, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Robert Laird wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:06 PM, cristalclear13
> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com> wrote:
> (who ever had the "brilliant" idea of building a prison right next to
> an airport I'll never know).
>
> Cristal --
>
> In 2003, I flew into an airport at Newport, Arkansas. Apparently, it
> was at one time an Air Force base, so it was very large. Even the
> shortest of its three runways is long enough for me to takeoff and
> land on about three or four times. But the oddest feature is, on the
> approach to runway 04, there is a prison. I don't mean it's close by,
> I mean it's on the approach! I decided not to fly over it directly,
> but that means I'm approaching my touch-down spot at a 45-degree
> angle, so I had to make a fairly sharp turn to line up with the runway
> once I was clear of the prison.
>
> -- Robert
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?
> f=q&hl=en&geocode=&ie=UTF8&t=h&msa=0&msid=101773101841869726868.000450
> a5d63f109a051a0&ll=35.634279,-91.185665&spn=0.039205,0.063171&z=14
>
>
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| Subject: | Yahoo! Auto Response |
I'm on an ultralight flight from Saturday, June 28 through Sunday, July 13. Since
I'll be camping along the way, I won't have access to a computer...and only
sporadic access to a phone So I'll get back to you on Monday, July 14.
Arty
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Cristal,
The evenings are nice but morning is my favorite.
----- Original Message ----
From: cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:06:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Quiet Kolb
I like my Kolb loud...let's me know she's running. It's when she gets quiet that
gets me a little anxious. Haven't heard any noise complaints here (yet anyways).
Guess the prisoners and guards right next to the airport have gotten used
to it (who ever had the "brilliant" idea of building a prison right next to
an airport I'll never know).
Was a beautiful evening for flying. Got down just before sunset. Change of gear
box oil seemed to do it some good. Whoever changed it last had filled it up
too much.
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Spades, Lighten Stick Forces and Improve Roll Rates. |
The strength of the ribs and the trailing edge of the wing is a valid concern and
something I thought about. The most important thing here is that I don't
use the spades to fly my Kolb around like I would a Decathlon. I still fly smoothly
with normal roll rates, so the wing and its ribs are not being stressed
any more than before I had the spades. I fly my Kolb like it was designed to
fly, smoothly and well within its limits. The spades just make flying much
more enjoyable as I have lighter forces on the stick when I fly in the way I always
have flown my Kolb.
I also have John H's wing strengthening angle iron inside the wing in addition
to the ribs to make the wing much more rigid and less prone to twisting at the
trailing edge. I did flight test my Kolb and took pictures of the wing with
the ailerons at full deflection at higher speeds with the spades so that I could
check for twisting, or any other type of deformation. The flight pictures
gave me lots of time to check everything over very carefully on my large computer
monitor, and it all looked great. I would not recommend anyone try to use
spades to fly a Kolb like it was not designed to fly...
It is really great to fly my Kolb with light aileron forces and also know that
if I find myself getting banked excessively or close to the ground, that have
very positive and quick control if I need it in an emergency.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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If you find yourself in Miami, or if anyone else needs a some experience in a Kolb,
I will be happy to take you for up in my MK III Xtra.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Yahoo! Auto Response |
That sounds like fun !!! Anywhere to see your route, and the plane you are flying
? Good luck and fly safe.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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rlaird wrote:
> But the oddest feature is, on the
> approach to runway 04, there is a prison. I don't mean it's close by,
> I mean it's on the approach! I decided not to fly over it directly,
> but that means I'm approaching my touch-down spot at a 45-degree
> angle, so I had to make a fairly sharp turn to line up with the runway
> once I was clear of the prison.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
That's similar to ours. I almost have to fly over it on a left pattern to rwy
18.
Link:
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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gaman(at)att.net wrote:
> Cristal,
> The evenings are nice but morning is my favorite.
>
> ---
That's a beautiful shot.
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: Yahoo! Auto Response |
June 28 through Sunday, July 13------------ -you
lucky dog--- Chris=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "thewa
nderingwench@yahoo.com" <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matro
nics.com=0ASent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:23:59 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Yah
ahoo.com=0A=0AI'm on an ultralight flight from Saturday, June 28 through Su
nday, July 13.- Since I'll be camping along the way, I won't have access
to a computer...and only sporadic access to a phone- So I'll get back to
==============0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs |
Denny, did you mean the ones I had for sale?
If so, give me a call at 423-323-9441 or at
richard@bcchapel.org
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| Subject: | aviation pioneer |
Mr. Miller saw and did it all:
<http://www.dmairfield.com/people/miller_jm/index.htm>
Watch him in the Kellett in the vid clip.
(BTW, welcome back Richard)
BB
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