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1. 02:22 AM - Re: Unbelievable Aviation Laws (pj.ladd)
2. 06:14 AM - Re: Unbelievable Aviation Laws (Russ Kinne)
3. 07:59 AM - Update on my flying lessons. (grantr)
4. 08:18 AM - Re: Update on my flying lessons. (Russ Kinne)
5. 10:00 AM - Re: Update on my flying lessons. (grantr)
6. 05:16 PM - Fatal Ultralight crash in North Georgia (grantr)
7. 09:50 PM - Re: Update on my flying lessons. (Dwight)
8. 10:54 PM - Re: Coast Guard Intercept (R. Hankins)
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| Subject: | Re: Unbelievable Aviation Laws |
<< There was a serious proposal from the RFC that Stonehenge (all of
20ft high) be removed as a danger to flying. Cheers, Pat >>
Hi, Pat -
Glad to hear that we are not the only country with aviation-ignorant
bureaucrats making the laws.>>
Hi,
although bureaucrats are usually responsible for a SNAFU in this case it was
the RFC, the Royal Flying Corps who made the request. The RFC`s No 1
Training Wing was close by and I suppose there were tyros struggling around
the area at nought feet. Engines were notoriously unreliable and although
the pilots must have found hitting a tree or a hedge an acceptable risk,
smacking into a few tons of stone could make your eyes water. In general it
was a great place for flying training. Miles of open rolling downland. There
are still a few airfields in the area, and quite a lot of it is used for
military training including air attacks..
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Unbelievable Aviation Laws |
How high is the ROC tower? I assumed that towers over 1000' HAD to
have blinking strobes. Not so? Doesn't make much sense to exempt
'grandfathers'.
Just as hard an impact.
We had a student one night that was too scared to follow the 4 "C "s
-- Climb, Communicate, Confess and Comply (I hope they still teach
that) -- and hit a
1-1/4"alum. power cable with a Taylorcraft! Cut the cable, kept
flying, and he landed at an airport. Blacked out 11,000 homes, not
much damage to the T'craft. Props are amazingly strong.
I hate to think of a Kolb hitting even a guy-wire; but you could have
a BRS that could hopefully save your life, even at a low altitude.
RK
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On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:00 PM, robert bean wrote:
> I remember Clover Field (Santa Monica) final approach was below
> some of the rooftops.
> Kinda entertaining at the time as I was in a long procession.
> ROC near me has a very tall radio tower (WHAM) quite near the
> airport.
> It was built long enough ago that it sports only red blinking
> lights, grandfather privileges.
> BB
> do not archive
> On 1, Jul 2008, at 8:27 PM, Russ Kinne wrote:
>
>> Dennis
>> this must be one of the VERY few times when heavy iron deviates
>> from a normal final approach because of man-made obstructions. I
>> suspect the Air Force's PR people had a hand in it.
>> (But wasn't anybody watching during the construction? There are
>> "avigation rights" that even civilians can use to prevent the
>> erection of hazards to flight at a nearby airport) I've seen this
>> happen.
>> And I'm sure that even tho a Kolb, and cooperative pilot, would
>> be willing to deviate and not fly directly over a prison, heavier
>> stuff like King Airs & Aerostars, and BIGGER, would probably fly a
>> straight-in approach.
>> Who else has had a drink at the Coronado Hotel in San Diego,
>> where you can look DOWN on transport aircraft on final? Been
>> going on for many years without fuss or danger.
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL wrote:
>>
>>> AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> << There was a serious proposal from the RFC that Stonehenge (all of
>>> 20ft high) be removed as a danger to flying. Cheers, Pat >>
>>>
>>> Hi, Pat -
>>>
>>> Glad to hear that we are not the only country with aviation-ignorant
>>> bureaucrats making the laws.
>>> Here in the USA, an opposite sort of situation occurred, although
>>> equally ridiculous.
>>>
>>> In Biloxi, Mississippi, a 20-story casino/hotel went up almost
>>> overnight, and in a spot that was DIRECTLY along the final
>>> approach path
>>> to the main runway for Keesler Air Force Base, and within a half
>>> mile.
>>> Local political greed being what it is, this was done without any
>>> communication or coordination with the US Air Force, who would have
>>> protested vehemently about the proximity of such a high-rise on
>>> short
>>> final to the runway.
>>>
>>> Following unsuccessful attempts to have the hotel moved, the Air
>>> Force
>>> finally gave up. Now, the official published procedure for
>>> landing at
>>> Keesler on that runway is to approach at an angle 20-degrees off
>>> runway
>>> centerline, then align with runway heading when you cross over the
>>> numbers. Although this would be easy in a Kolb (gotta keep this
>>> thread
>>> Kolb-related) or any other general aviation aircraft, it is an
>>> especially unsettling maneuver for the KC-135 tankers that
>>> primarily use
>>> that base.
>>>
>>> Dennis Kirby
>>> Mark-3, 912ul, in
>>> Cedar Crest, New Mexico
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Update on my flying lessons. |
I took my Sport Pilot Written test last Thursday and made a 93% on it. So thats
out of the way! I didn't do as good as Crystal on her Private exam. [Wink]
It looks like I have about 2 more lessons before the Check ride. I have to
solo and then get 2 hours instruction with another SP instructor so he can sign
me off to take the check ride with my instructor which also happens to be the
examiner.
I look forward to getting the SP license and bringing my plane home. I am tired
of driving 4 hrs round trip to fly!
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| Subject: | Re: Update on my flying lessons. |
Grant, congratulations on your 93%!! -- that's-pretty great. What are
your flying ? and where?
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On Jul 2, 2008, at 10:56 AM, grantr wrote:
> <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
>
> I took my Sport Pilot Written test last Thursday and made a 93% on
> it. So thats out of the way! I didn't do as good as Crystal on her
> Private exam. [Wink] It looks like I have about 2 more lessons
> before the Check ride. I have to solo and then get 2 hours
> instruction with another SP instructor so he can sign me off to
> take the check ride with my instructor which also happens to be the
> examiner.
>
> I look forward to getting the SP license and bringing my plane
> home. I am tired of driving 4 hrs round trip to fly!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190893#190893
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Update on my flying lessons. |
Kolb mkIII in quitman,GA moving to Americus GA once my training is over.
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| Subject: | Fatal Ultralight crash in North Georgia |
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/article/6799/
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| Subject: | Re: Update on my flying lessons. |
congrats Grant. You'll be flyin solo in no time
Dwight
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| Subject: | Re: Coast Guard Intercept |
Cool pictures. Don't tell me Dave was getting paid for all of this. That would
almost be too much to take. At least my tax money was going to a good use for
once.
I'm not jealous.... No really....
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503 - N1782C
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