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1. 02:25 AM - Re: I soloed Saturday! (Tony Oldman)
2. 02:42 AM - Re: fuel prices (Tony Oldman)
3. 04:11 AM - Re: I soloed Saturday! (Jimmy Young)
4. 04:37 AM - solo (Ted Cowan)
5. 05:22 AM - Re: Re: Nauga Field Fly Around - in 10 days! (John Hauck)
6. 05:52 AM - Re: Gyrocopter intercept (cristalclear13)
7. 05:56 AM - Re: Gyrocopter intercept (cristalclear13)
8. 05:59 AM - Re: Gyrocopter intercept (cristalclear13)
9. 06:08 AM - Re: I soloed Saturday! (cristalclear13)
10. 06:20 AM - Re: fuel prices (robert bean)
11. 07:10 AM - Re: density altitude (boyd)
12. 07:57 AM - Sport Pilot article (TK)
13. 08:39 AM - Re: I soloed Saturday! (Jack B. Hart)
14. 09:05 AM - Re: Sport Pilot article (Jack B. Hart)
15. 09:34 AM - Hand-Propping a Kolb (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
16. 09:53 AM - Re: Gyrocopter intercept (Ed Chmielewski)
17. 10:04 AM - Re: Gyrocopter intercept (pj.ladd)
18. 10:06 AM - Re: Hand-Propping a Kolb (Jim Minewiser)
19. 10:23 AM - Re: Gyrocopter intercept (cristalclear13)
20. 11:09 AM - I soloed Saturday! (Arksey@aol.com)
21. 12:59 PM - Re: Hand-Propping a Kolb (boyd)
22. 04:35 PM - Re: Sport Pilot article (N27SB@aol.com)
23. 05:05 PM - Re: Sport Pilot article (N27SB@aol.com)
24. 05:08 PM - Starter (Jmmy Hankinson)
25. 05:23 PM - Re: I soloed Saturday! (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
26. 05:23 PM - Re: Starter (N27SB@aol.com)
27. 05:43 PM - Re: Sport Pilot article (Jack B. Hart)
28. 06:10 PM - Re: Starter (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
29. 06:23 PM - Re: New video (Michael Adams)
30. 06:41 PM - Re: Starter (N27SB@aol.com)
31. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: Nauga Field Fly Around - in 10 days! (Steven Green)
32. 07:16 PM - Re: Starter (Jmmy Hankinson)
33. 10:53 PM - Re: Starter (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: I soloed Saturday! |
Congratulations .Nothing can replace that first flight by your self. Your
instructor will always be on your shoulder.
You picked a great machine to solo in. you did better than me. Istill prefer
the grass to land on. I have never put weight in the Kolb when flying solo.
I may be heavier than you. I am about 85Kg or about 190lb. Performance 1 up
is great. Time in the seat is the best thing now . Keep it up.
Tony
Downunder
MK111
400+ hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: I soloed Saturday!
>
> Saturday 7-5-08 I soloed my Kolb MarkIII! Prior to my flight we had strong
> gusty winds and T storms in the area will strong downdrafts and frequent
> lighting. We had decided to call it a day and head home but the wind died
> down to less than 3mph and the storms dissipated. My Instructor Danny Tyre
> and I decided to take a flight around the pattern to see how the wind was
> in the pattern. After determining it was good. We proceeded to make 3
> landings and one emergency landing. After the last landing we headed back
> to the hanger and loaded my plane with some weight to get the cg in the
> safe range for my solo flight. Once we had the weight secured I strapped
> in ran down my check list and headed out to the runway. The Mk III flew
> much better losing 70 pounds of weight. I made 2 full stop takeoffs and
> landings. Both takeoffs and landings were on the asphalt and were both
> real nice and smooth. I am very excited about the Solo. Danny is an
> excellent instructor! On my solo it really fel!
> t like Danny was in the plane with me. That?Ts how comfortable I felt
> flying solo. Prior to getting in the plane for the solo I was feeling
> moderately nervous but not too bad. One I got in the plane I felt very
> confident. I have attached pictures Danny took of my solo. Danny takes
> very good pictures. Some of these are a tad dark due to the low light.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/11569584@N03/sets/72157606020039760/detail/
>
> Click the pictures to see a lager version.
>
> Grant
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=191532#191532
>
>
>
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Well fuel went up again today . The Kolb can now burn about $26.64 US per
hour. I know there are others on this list that pay more. It will not stop
us using the stuff but we may become a little more choosy when to fly, boat
or take the old car for a Sunday drive. Still its about -2c windy and wet
out side now so am saving for a good day.
Get revenge use it all while we can.
Tony
MK111
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuel prices
>
> > Roughly 9 bucks a gallon to you.
> > Pat
>
>
> Thanks, Patrick:
>
> Good explanation.
>
> Makes a lot more sense to me now.
>
> That is a lot more than I paid for 87 oct this morning, $3.76 a gal.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I soloed Saturday! |
Congratulations Grant, that is a day you won't soon forget! Nice
looking MK III too.
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Jimmy Young
Houston TX
Kolb FS II , 135 hrs in it
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congratulations Grant. Funtastic. The look in your eyes when you were
putting your helmet on was a flashback to my solo in my slingshot. hope you
have many many flights of fun. nice looking plane too. cool. ted cowan,
alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Nauga Field Fly Around - in 10 days! |
> Ronnie has the wild pig in the cooler for Saturday night.
>
> John Bickham
John B/Gang:
Come on!
I am ready to go. Waiting on Friday morning.
Looking forward to spending time with the old Kolb gang again.
Preparing my appetite for next weekend.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Gyrocopter intercept |
lcottrell wrote:
> ---
Larry,
I can't ever see what you are writing. It shows up as blank on the website and
I don't get the emails. Maybe it's the font you are using. I think I saw Matt
Dralle mention that to someone else.
Cristal
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: Gyrocopter intercept |
grantr wrote:
> Does that RAF have a horizontal stabilizer on it? If it doesn't don't fly in
it. That particular gyroplane has killed many high time pilots. Its unstable
without the H stab on it.
Grant,
Now you're delving into what has been "discussed to death" on threads and threads
of gyro forums. I won't go there. I just know that I totally trust riding
in that gyro and totally trust who is flying it.
Thanks for the concern.
Cristal
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| Subject: | Re: Gyrocopter intercept |
gliderx5 wrote:
> I don't have a VSI, but I will do some timed climbs to see what type of performance
I'm getting. What are you seeing for climb rate?
Malcolm,
I don't have a VSI either. I'll time my climbs next time I go and let you know.
I'm glad you are seeing better performance after adjusting your prop.
Thanks,
Cristal
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| Subject: | Re: I soloed Saturday! |
grantr wrote:
> Saturday 7-5-08 I soloed my Kolb MarkIII!
> Grant
Congratulations Grant! That is so exciting! And Danny did take some GREAT photos!
You have a beautiful plane.
Cristal
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I had a nice ride sunday morning over to the coffee drinker's and
tire kicker's airport.
Nothing fell off the kolb which made it all the more enjoyable.
Costs me somewhere around $10 hr but then I only cruise around 60.
BB
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On 7, Jul 2008, at 5:37 AM, Tony Oldman wrote:
>
> Well fuel went up again today . The Kolb can now burn about $26.64
> US per hour. I know there are others on this list that pay more. It
> will not stop us using the stuff but we may become a little more
> choosy when to fly, boat or take the old car for a Sunday drive.
> Still its about -2c windy and wet out side now so am saving for a
> good day.
> Get revenge use it all while we can.
> Tony
> MK111
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: fuel prices
>
>
>>
>> > Roughly 9 bucks a gallon to you.
>> > Pat
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick:
>>
>> Good explanation.
>>
>> Makes a lot more sense to me now.
>>
>> That is a lot more than I paid for 87 oct this morning, $3.76 a gal.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | density altitude |
I received this reply back direct from Robert in reference to the formula
for density altitude. Included is his text and my reply.
Boyd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Boyd --
>
>I could be wrong, but I think the 3.6-degrees is in Centigrade, and
>the 5.4-degrees is in Fahrenheit...
>
>I also could be wrong, but, I think the formula -only- works right if
>you use the degrees-Centigrade.
>
> -- Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I checked both sources (again) and they both say DEG F.
And I have checked the formula against the automatic weather observation
system, awos at the Brigham airport and they are very close.
Also I checked with John Williamson a couple years ago and he uses 2 deg C
when figuring the laps rate/ 1000 ft, in changing from deg c to deg f
the formula is c * 9 / 5 = f when just talking deg of change. When
converting c to f with reference to a thermometer you have to change the
formula to c * 9 / 5 + 32 = f using the first formula. 2 deg c change of
temp = 3.6 deg F change... and 2 Deg c on the thermometer = 35.6 deg F
if you convert 3.6 ( thinking it was in C) it equals 6.48 deg f...and that
does not seem correct.
I did some checking on the internet and looked up laps rate, or adiabatic
laps rate, and as I recall there were terms like standard laps rate and
variable laps rate, and it seems that the atmospheric conditions Humidity,
if the air was ascending or descending, or if there was moisture going into
or out of condensation mode made the difference. I know from being in the
heating business,,,, there is a term "latent heat of vaporization" it
describes a condition where if you can condense the byproducts of water
vapor in the combustion process,,, you can gain up to 9% of additional heat
in the process, whether you are heating air or water with the appliance.
Where the standard laps rate had reference to a stationary mass of air and
the temp drop due to a drop in air pressure at higher altitudes.
One last thing I should have mentioned the one article said the 66 in the
formula was the density altitude change for each deg F of change from the
standard day. and if you were working with deg C. the number in the formula
would have to be 118.8 (foot change / deg c)
Boyd Young
Kolb MkIII 912
525 + hours and counting
Brigham City Ut.
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| Subject: | Sport Pilot article |
Steve Boetto,
Congratulations on the very nice article in the July issue of Sport
Pilot magazine. You should be happy with the very extensive coverage
they did on your puddle hopping FireFly. Nice job!!
Hope to get to see it up close in the near future!
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: I soloed Saturday! |
At 08:45 PM 7/6/08 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Saturday 7-5-08 ............. http://www.flickr.com/photos/11569584@N03/sets/72157606020039760/detail/
.................
>
Grant,
Congratulations! It is good to see that a couple of generations younger
than my self are learning and want to fly.
Fly safe
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot article |
Steve,
I noticed in the leading page photo, that you have four piano hinges per
aileron. This was great to see. My plans called for three, and I am just
about ready to replace the inner hinge pin on the left wing for the second
time at 242 hours. I will add another hinge segment inboard to the left
wing/aileron.
If your empty weight is 328 pounds, what do you consider to be your gross
weight limit?
How does the new FireFly empty weight compare to that of the "Puddle
Buster"?
Good article.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Hand-Propping a Kolb |
Jack Hart wrote: << I thought about tying it to the pickup truck and
hand propping. But since I had never done it before, I thought it might
be better if someone was around when I did it. >>
Kolb Friends -
I've wondered about this for a long time: Is it possible to hand-prop
our little gearbox-equipped engines?
Of more specific interest to me is the Rotax-912 .
The 912 Operator's Manual says the engine must turn at least 300 rpm for
the ignition system to spark.
Can this be achieved by hand-propping?
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, 912ul,
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Gyrocopter intercept |
Hi Cristal,
What state are you in?
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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----- Original Message -----
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Gyrocopter intercept
> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>
> I was intercepted today by AF gyro. :)
>
> just kidding
>
> Gyrocopter flew with me to Alma today on my first cross country in my Kolb
> Mark II Twinstar.
>
> --------
> Cristal Waters
> Mark II Twinstar
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gyrocopter intercept |
Hi Cristal, What state are you in?>>
Ecstatic I should think !
Pat :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Hand-Propping a Kolb |
Dennis,
I have started the 503 by hand propping.
Jim M
Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Jack Hart wrote: << I thought about tying it to the pickup truck and
> hand propping. But since I had never done it before, I thought it might
> be better if someone was around when I did it. >>
>
> Kolb Friends -
>
> I've wondered about this for a long time: Is it possible to hand-prop
> our little gearbox-equipped engines?
> Of more specific interest to me is the Rotax-912 .
> The 912 Operator's Manual says the engine must turn at least 300 rpm for
> the ignition system to spark.
> Can this be achieved by hand-propping?
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, 912ul,
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gyrocopter intercept |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> Hi Cristal, What state are you in?>>
>
> Ecstatic I should think !
>
> Pat :-)
Pat, You beat me to it. [Laughing]
Ed, I'm in SE GA (it shows on forum website). Why do you ask?
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| Subject: | I soloed Saturday! |
Good for you Grant,
Sounds like you did good, and enjoyed it. You will always remember the
day you soloed. I got out my log book and looked up my solo date...was
6-28-47 in a J-3 cub...I was 16 and back then they sort of had a custom of
cutting off your shirt tail, which they did. I notice in my log book that I
soon
got some dual after soloing doing some cross wind landings in rough air. You
are starting in a good airplane, the Kolb. I now fly a Kolb firestar ll and
enjoy it just as much today as way back when i started in the J-3 ....had it
up just before dark last night, was smooth and enjoyable. Keep learning and
fly safe. Jim Swan
firestar ll N-663S 503 rotax michigan
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| Subject: | Hand-Propping a Kolb |
The 912 Operator's Manual says the engine must turn at least 300 rpm for
the ignition system to spark.
Can this be achieved by hand-propping?
Dennis Kirby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
Yes, I have gone to the airport and found my battery too low to
start,(because I left the master switch on) and been able to hand prop it
without any problems. Before you do it with the mags hot, practice with
the mags off. Make sure you are going away from the prop at the end of the
pull. That way you wont end up in the prop when it starts. I would suggest
having it tied down or another pilot in it to keep things from getting away
from you.
Boyd Young
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot article |
Terry, you are welcome anytime, thanks for the comments
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
Firefly 0040/ Floats 2008 SnF Grand Champion
In a message dated 7/7/2008 10:57:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tkrolfe@toast.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: TK <tkrolfe@toast.net>
Steve Boetto,
Congratulations on the very nice article in the July issue of Sport
Pilot magazine. You should be happy with the very extensive coverage
they did on your puddle hopping FireFly. Nice job!!
Hope to get to see it up close in the near future!
Terry - FireFly #95
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot article |
In a message dated 7/7/2008 12:06:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes:
I noticed in the leading page photo, that you have four piano hinges per
aileron. This was great to see. My plans called for three, and I am just
about ready to replace the inner hinge pin on the left wing for the second
time at 242 hours. I will add another hinge segment inboard to the left
wing/aileron
Pretty good eyes there Jack. We work this Lil furfly pretty hard so Bryan
added an extra hinge. Don't think it was really needed but I never argue with
"The Master".
If your empty weight is 328 pounds, what do you consider to be your gross
weight limit?
Based on how the Firefly is built in comparison to the other Kolbs, I have
no problem giving Him a Gross Weight of 600 lbs. I would Wring Him out at that
weight and would not have a problem of an overgross of 650 lbs. Now keep in
mind that we added a few other little do dads that your eyes cannot see.
How does the new FireFly empty weight compare to that of the "Puddle
Buster"?
The PuddleBuster is a few pounds underweight but I really would not add
anything to Him. By the Way He is for Sale.
Good article
Thanks, I really hate Writing but Mary Jones asked me if I would do this
one. I had to do it during the time of John W's death and that really sucked so
my heart was not really in it. Thanks for your compliments and how is your
new engine project coming along?
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
Firefly 0040/ Floats 2008 SnF Grand Champion
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Due to the fact that I cannot pull the starter rope fast enough to start the
engine (447), (health problem) I am in the market for an electric starter.
Does anyone have an electric starter for sale? Used or new.
Do not archive
Jimmy Hankinson
Firefly N6007L
Rocky Ford, Ga.
912 863 7384
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| Subject: | Re: I soloed Saturday! |
Congratulations On your Solo... Thanks for the pictures too...
Stephen Baxley
2003 Firefly
1993 Ultrastar
Donalsonville , Georgia
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In a message dated 7/7/2008 8:09:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhankin@planters.net writes:
Due to the fact that I cannot pull the starter rope fast enough to start the
engine (447), (health problem) I am in the market for an electric starter.
Jimmy, there are a few things you can do to make the pull start easy. If you
are interested let me know.
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
Firefly 0040/ Floats 2008 SnF Grand Champion
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot article |
From: N27SB@aol.com
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Thanks for your compliments and how is your new engine project coming along?
>...................
Steve
Very slow at the moment. I remain in the process digging a walkout for my
basement shop, and the smoothing and seeding the soil surrounding the house.
If it rains to the point that I have to stay in, I work on the engine project.
I have a few experiments to perform on the Bing and the Victor 1+. Richard
Pike gave me an idea of how to change the air fuel mixture in flight. All
the parts have been fabricated and they wait for me to get the new battery
installed, and to make a few test flights. This FireFly has been the best
and most interesting toy!
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Jimmy, there are a few things you can do to make the pull start easy. If you
are interested let me know.
Steve B
Hey Steve B
We all would like to know your secrets..... LOL
Steve B...Too
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> Nice. What kind of camera, and how did you mount it?
It's just a standard DV camera. Actually one of the cheaper ones. It's
just attached to a camera tripod and then it's strapped onto the
airplane. The video quality it better than what YouTube shows but in
order to keep the file size under 100MB, the resolution has to be
reduced. Then YouTube does it's own conversion and it loses even more
quality.
I have a new video posted as of Saturday.
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Hi Stephen, Are you still flying that silly little Firefly/ Just Kidding.
I discarded the standard pulley included in the kit and bought a larger
one with ball bearings from West Marine. I also used a second one in place of
the welded ring. I can now pull down instead of forward. I also bought some 6
mm climbing rope and increased the amount of rope by about 2 feet. It is now
much easier to start and I can get that extra two cylinders to hit.
good to hear from you.
Steve B
Firefly 007/Floats
Firefly 0040/ Floats 2008 SnF Grand Champion
In a message dated 7/7/2008 9:10:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Flycrazy8@aol.com writes:
Jimmy, there are a few things you can do to make the pull start easy. If you
are interested let me know.
Steve B
Hey Steve B
We all would like to know your secrets..... LOL
Steve B...Too
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| Subject: | Re: Nauga Field Fly Around - in 10 days! |
I am planning to leave Friday morning. I have an oil leak I have to repair
between now and Friday. The quick drain on the oil tank has a small
leak......if all else fails I will put the standard plug back in it.
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:34 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Nauga Field Fly Around - in 10 days!
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> Ronnie has the wild pig in the cooler for Saturday night.
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> Right now, the weather forecast is looking favorable.
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> Thanks too much,
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> John Bickham
> Mark III-C w/ 912UL
> St. Francisville, LA
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=191536#191536
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Steve, sounds if others would like to know also. Please let us know your
secrets.
Jimmy
Firefly N6007L
Rocky Ford, Ga.
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Hi Stephen, Are you still flying that silly little Firefly/ Just Kidding
Steve B
Yep Steve
Still flying the silly Firefly....Guess all us Kolbers need to put floats on
our airships and Then we can win the Sun/Fun Grand Champion & Get our
pictures in that Magazine too......LOL.... Congratulations
Thanks for the info on the Pull Cord.
Stephen B.
2003 Firefly
1993 Ultrastar
_www.southernflyersul.com_ (http://www.southernflyersul.com)
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