---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/14/08: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:04 AM - off field landings (grantr) 2. 06:20 AM - Re: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 3. 06:36 AM - Re: off field landings (robert bean) 4. 07:14 AM - Re: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success (Robert Laird) 5. 07:23 AM - Re: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success (herb) 6. 09:01 AM - Re: off field landings (Jack B. Hart) 7. 10:05 AM - Re: off field landings (ross richardson) 8. 10:45 AM - Re: off field landings (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 9. 11:36 AM - Genrac Powered Firestar II (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 10. 12:19 PM - new Generac engine notes (Jimmy Young) 11. 12:26 PM - Re: off field landings (planecrazzzy) 12. 01:34 PM - 503 DCDI for Sale (Tom Longo) 13. 03:53 PM - Camping Gear (John Hauck) 14. 08:02 PM - Re: Camping Gear (icrashrc) 15. 10:40 PM - I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a spin (WillUribe@aol.com) 16. 10:40 PM - Dipole antenna from co-ax (icrashrc) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:24 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: off field landings From: "grantr" I am a little concerned about my Mark 3 flipping over on its back during an off field emergency landing into a corn, cotton or peanut field. http://photobucket.com/grant-kolb As you can see from the photos I have plenty of emergency landing options. How many of you have have to make a landing into similar crops and what was the outcome? My plane has a nose skid but I dont know if that would help much in preventing it from flipping over in a crop landing. Grant Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192631#192631 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:08 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success Jimmy We sure would like a unbiased review of your Genrec powered FSII. If you have flown a 503 powered FSII how does it compare. What are your cruise seeds, climb speed, climb rate if you have it, fuel burn, cost of engine package, vibration level, engine mount, noise level, weight of engine package, weight of plane with engine. Photos would be nice also. Again nothing specific. Could we possibly see a article in EAA's Light Sport Magazine in the future? I know I'm asking alot but we really need a inexpensive alternative to Rotax engines and you are really the first to put one on a FSII. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success > > Yes, that's Jimmy Youngs FSII with the Generac. > > > On 7/13/08, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote: >> >> >> John >> >> The yellow plane looks like a Firestar ... is that a Genrac V twin with >> a >> Valley redrive on it? >> >> Looks like a great time. >> >> Rick Neilsen >> Redrive VW powered MKIIIC >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Bickham" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:27 PM >> Subject: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success >> >> >>> >>> >>> Just got off the phone with Gary H. Everyone has made it home safe and >>> sound and we are now declaring this weekend a success! >>> >>> Below is a link to the first round of pictures to view. These are from >>> Bruce C. The first aerial shots are of his home field which is 2800 ft, >>> almost 2 nauga's! >>> >>> >>> http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?Uc=1ru0yy7z.agq22gbf&Uy=liw4cx&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0&UV=888614392466_737059852603&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1 >>> >>> Awards committe has awarded the following: >>> >>> Most hours enroute, shortest landing, and longest takeoff roll - Jimmy >>> Young *Houston, TX >>> >>> Biggest Appetite and worst mule driver - John Hauck * Hauck's Holler, TX >>> >>> Smoothest Arrival landing (that's it) - Gary Haley *Houston, TX >>> >>> Furthest driven on the way to work - Ken Korenek >>> >>> More awards to come, once all scoring is complete. >>> >>> We had a great time as our friend would want! >>> >>> -------- >>> Thanks too much, >>> >>> John Bickham >>> Mark III-C w/ 912UL >>> St. Francisville, LA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192514#192514 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other, er, > um.... > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:40 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: off field landings Grant, having done the 20' nose slide in 3 foot alfalfa earlier this summer, I would say the MkIII should resist a flipover better than a FS. The extra weight is a factor and also the shorter legs (if you still have the old aluminum ones) The nose hoop would save the bowl from damage. My home made aluminum nose sticks out more than stock and gives me a little more help. Lucky, no rocks this time :) BB, MkIII, suzuki, now featuring new improved pitot tube. On 14, Jul 2008, at 9:01 AM, grantr wrote: > > > I am a little concerned about my Mark 3 flipping over on its back > during an off field emergency landing into a corn, cotton or peanut > field. > > http://photobucket.com/grant-kolb > > As you can see from the photos I have plenty of emergency landing > options. > > How many of you have have to make a landing into similar crops and > what was the outcome? My plane has a nose skid but I dont know if > that would help much in preventing it from flipping over in a crop > landing. > > > Grant > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192631#192631 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:27 AM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success http://blogs.chron.com/lightflight/archives/2008/06/experimental_av.html Jimmy will have more info than I put in the article, but until he's "ready to publish", this will whet your appetite! -- Robert On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Richard & Martha Neilsen < NeilsenRM@comcast.net> wrote: > NeilsenRM@comcast.net> > > Jimmy > > We sure would like a unbiased review of your Genrec powered FSII. If you > have flown a 503 powered FSII how does it compare. What are your cruise > seeds, climb speed, climb rate if you have it, fuel burn, cost of engine > package, vibration level, engine mount, noise level, weight of engine > package, weight of plane with engine. Photos would be nice also. Again > nothing specific. > > Could we possibly see a article in EAA's Light Sport Magazine in the > future? > > I know I'm asking alot but we really need a inexpensive alternative to > Rotax engines and you are really the first to put one on a FSII. > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW powered MKIIIC > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:17 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success > > >> >> >> Yes, that's Jimmy Youngs FSII with the Generac. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7/13/08, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> John >>> >>> The yellow plane looks like a Firestar ... is that a Genrac V twin with >>> a >>> Valley redrive on it? >>> >>> Looks like a great time. >>> >>> Rick Neilsen >>> Redrive VW powered MKIIIC >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Bickham" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:27 PM >>> Subject: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success >>> >>> >>>> gearbender@bellsouth.net> >>>> >>>> Just got off the phone with Gary H. Everyone has made it home safe and >>>> sound and we are now declaring this weekend a success! >>>> >>>> Below is a link to the first round of pictures to view. These are from >>>> Bruce C. The first aerial shots are of his home field which is 2800 ft, >>>> almost 2 nauga's! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?Uc=1ru0yy7z.agq22gbf&Uy=liw4cx&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0&UV=888614392466_737059852603&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1 >>>> >>>> Awards committe has awarded the following: >>>> >>>> Most hours enroute, shortest landing, and longest takeoff roll - Jimmy >>>> Young *Houston, TX >>>> >>>> Biggest Appetite and worst mule driver - John Hauck * Hauck's Holler, TX >>>> >>>> Smoothest Arrival landing (that's it) - Gary Haley *Houston, TX >>>> >>>> Furthest driven on the way to work - Ken Korenek >>>> >>>> More awards to come, once all scoring is complete. >>>> >>>> We had a great time as our friend would want! >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Thanks too much, >>>> >>>> John Bickham >>>> Mark III-C w/ 912UL >>>> St. Francisville, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192514#192514 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other, er, >> um.... >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other, er, um.... ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:35 AM PST US From: herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success Rick You probably know that Dick Starks wife...Kansas City...has a Generac on her Kolb MkII. Herb ps I am told by a Dixie Chopper salesman that Generac engines are the only ones that are dynoed with full accessories operable... Don G.. know anything about this? This engine is over 900 cc's and can produce near 40 hp and is derated to 33 on some commercial lawnmowers..as I recall... At 08:17 AM 7/14/2008, you wrote: > > >Jimmy > >We sure would like a unbiased review of your Genrec powered FSII. If >you have flown a 503 powered FSII how does it compare. What are your >cruise seeds, climb speed, climb rate if you have it, fuel burn, >cost of engine package, vibration level, engine mount, noise level, >weight of engine package, weight of plane with engine. Photos would >be nice also. Again nothing specific. > >Could we possibly see a article in EAA's Light Sport Magazine in the future? > >I know I'm asking alot but we really need a inexpensive alternative >to Rotax engines and you are really the first to put one on a FSII. > >Rick Neilsen >Redrive VW powered MKIIIC > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" >To: >Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:17 PM >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success > > >> >>Yes, that's Jimmy Youngs FSII with the Generac. >> >> >> >> >> >>On 7/13/08, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote: >>> >>> >>>John >>> >>>The yellow plane looks like a Firestar ... is that a Genrac V twin with a >>>Valley redrive on it? >>> >>>Looks like a great time. >>> >>>Rick Neilsen >>>Redrive VW powered MKIIIC >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "John Bickham" >>>To: >>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:27 PM >>>Subject: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Just got off the phone with Gary H. Everyone has made it home safe and >>>>sound and we are now declaring this weekend a success! >>>> >>>>Below is a link to the first round of pictures to view. These are from >>>>Bruce C. The first aerial shots are of his home field which is 2800 ft, >>>>almost 2 nauga's! >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?Uc=1ru0yy7z.agq22gbf&Uy=liw4cx&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0&UV=888614392466_737059852603&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1 >>>> >>>>Awards committe has awarded the following: >>>> >>>>Most hours enroute, shortest landing, and longest takeoff roll - Jimmy >>>>Young *Houston, TX >>>> >>>>Biggest Appetite and worst mule driver - John Hauck * Hauck's Holler, TX >>>> >>>>Smoothest Arrival landing (that's it) - Gary Haley *Houston, TX >>>> >>>>Furthest driven on the way to work - Ken Korenek >>>> >>>>More awards to come, once all scoring is complete. >>>> >>>>We had a great time as our friend would want! >>>> >>>>-------- >>>>Thanks too much, >>>> >>>>John Bickham >>>>Mark III-C w/ 912UL >>>>St. Francisville, LA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192514#192514 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>-- >>Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other, er, um.... >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:34 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: off field landings At 06:01 AM 7/14/08 -0700, you wrote: > >How many of you have have to make a landing into similar crops and what was the outcome? My plane has a nose skid but I dont know if that would help much in preventing it from flipping over in a crop landing. > Grant, I have been in a bean and a corn field with the FireFly. The beans were short and the ground was soft. The corn field was stubble field in the spring so the surface was fairly firm. In both cases landed with the rows, and did not go up on the nose. Flared into ground effect and held it off nose high so that I planted the tail wheel first. No damage from landing in the beans. In the cornfield I bent the right landing gear leg a bit as it happened to travel right down a row. A corn stalk poked a hole in the outboard bottom surface of the right wing. Surprisingly, the horizontal tail surfaces were undamaged. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:38 AM PST US From: ross richardson Subject: RE: Kolb-List: off field landings I have set them down in tall grass with no problem. Years ago I ran out of gas as I was coming low late in the evening when I had to pop over some tre e at the end of the strip. I knew I couldn't make it and picked a tree and flared it and set it down in the top of the tree. After setting there a few minutes and knew it wasn't going any where I climbed down. I went to the h ouse and got the kids=2C tractor=2C pick up=2C ropes and a chainsaw. Betwee n the kids and I we was able to drop the tree and get it back on the ground with out any real damage to the plane. The next morning I checked it out and cleared a path to an open field where I took off and landed on the RIGHT strip. I was flying a Rally 2B at that time and used it to check live stock and crops. I am not s ure if that tree would have held the MK3 that I fly now with it's weight bu t I know I could set it down on the top of it. > Subject: Kolb-List: off fi eld landings> From: grant_richardson25@yahoo.com> Date: Mon=2C 14 Jul 2008 06:01:48 -0700> To: kolb-list@matronics.com> > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "grantr" > > I am a little concerned abo ut my Mark 3 flipping over on its back during an off field emergency landin g into a corn=2C cotton or peanut field.> > http://photobucket.com/grant-ko lb > > As you can see from the photos I have plenty of emergency landing op tions. > > How many of you have have to make a landing into similar crops a nd what was the outcome? My plane has a nose skid but I dont know if that w ould help much in preventing it from flipping over in a crop landing.> > > Grant> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/ ===================> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:38 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: off field landings I had a forced landing in my MKIIIC a few years ago in a bean field. The actual landing was uneventful with no damage. The beans were short which helped a bunch but by using no flaps I was able to snag some beans with my tail wheel before my main gear touched. The tail wheel did most of the stopping. The main gear sat down between the rows with the tail wheel snagging beans. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "grantr" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Kolb-List: off field landings > > I am a little concerned about my Mark 3 flipping over on its back during > an off field emergency landing into a corn, cotton or peanut field. > > http://photobucket.com/grant-kolb > > As you can see from the photos I have plenty of emergency landing options. > > How many of you have have to make a landing into similar crops and what > was the outcome? My plane has a nose skid but I dont know if that would > help much in preventing it from flipping over in a crop landing. > > > Grant > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192631#192631 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:55 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Kolb-List: Genrac Powered Firestar II Robert / All Thanks for the article and link. It sounds like that engine package is a good match for a Firestar II. Wow 2 GPH. I see Jimmy is using a IVO prop. Reports are that IVO is a bit low on thrust and it sounds like he can use all he can get. Powerfin followed by Warp are a bit better. A long two bladed prop might be even better. Talk to Valley they may give you a Culver prop to test. Also one of the many down sides of being the first is that prop selection is a real guessing game. Over the winter I had my three bladed 72 inch F model Powerfin cut from 72 inches to 71 inches. I had hoped to get the same cruise performance with better climb. The result is the same cruise with about one hundred more RPMs on takeoff I had hoped for 200-300 more. The only down side is that I seem to be using slightly more power to get the same cruise. Powerfin had recommended that I cut the prop to 70 inches because that is the best prop for a 80 HP Rotax. I think the 70 inch prop would give me more overall performance but would use more power to do it. As it stands now my climb is great and when I get to cruise altitude I pull alot of power off for a 3200RPM 75MPH cruise. If I cut more off the prop I would get more climb performance but loose efficiency so I will stay where I am. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Laird To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success http://blogs.chron.com/lightflight/archives/2008/06/experimental_av.html Jimmy will have more info than I put in the article, but until he's "ready to publish", this will whet your appetite! -- Robert On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote: Jimmy We sure would like a unbiased review of your Genrec powered FSII. If you have flown a 503 powered FSII how does it compare. What are your cruise seeds, climb speed, climb rate if you have it, fuel burn, cost of engine package, vibration level, engine mount, noise level, weight of engine package, weight of plane with engine. Photos would be nice also. Again nothing specific. Could we possibly see a article in EAA's Light Sport Magazine in the future? I know I'm asking alot but we really need a inexpensive alternative to Rotax engines and you are really the first to put one on a FSII. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Laird" To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success Yes, that's Jimmy Youngs FSII with the Generac. On 7/13/08, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote: John The yellow plane looks like a Firestar ... is that a Genrac V twin with a Valley redrive on it? Looks like a great time. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bickham" To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Kolb-List: 2008 Nauga Field Fly Around - Declared Success Just got off the phone with Gary H. Everyone has made it home safe and sound and we are now declaring this weekend a success! Below is a link to the first round of pictures to view. These are from Bruce C. The first aerial shots are of his home field which is 2800 ft, almost 2 nauga's! http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?Uc=1ru0yy7z.agq22gbf&Uy=liw 4cx&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0&UV=888614392 466_737059852603&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1 Awards committe has awarded the following: Most hours enroute, shortest landing, and longest takeoff roll - Jimmy Young *Houston, TX Biggest Appetite and worst mule driver - John Hauck * Hauck's Holler, TX Smoothest Arrival landing (that's it) - Gary Haley *Houston, TX Furthest driven on the way to work - Ken Korenek More awards to come, once all scoring is complete. We had a great time as our friend would want! -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192514#192514 -- Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other, er, um.... -- Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other, er, um.... ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:04 PM PST US From: Jimmy Young Subject: Kolb-List: new Generac engine notes Rick Neilson wrote: >We sure would like a unbiased review of your Genrec powered FSII. If you have flown a 503 powered FSII how does it compare. What are your cruise seeds, climb speed, climb rate if you have it, fuel burn, cost of engine package, vibration level, engine mount, noise level, weight of engine package, weight of plane with engine. Photos would be nice also. Again nothing specific.< Rick, I plan to post a flight test diary in the next couple of days to the Kolb Thread which I have been putting together over the last few weeks. Right now I've got to focus on work and get caught up. All of your above questions will be covered on that post. The link posted by Robert Laird today is pretty accurate. The climb out rate is not anywhere near as hot as the 503 was, but is adequate on any 1000' semi-decent runway with minimal obstructions. The weight was not an issue, within 2 lbs of my 503 DCDI. I have 34 hrs on the engine to date. On another subject, The Nauga Fly-In was so much fun! A big thanks goes to John Bickham for hosting a great event. A very heart-touching missing man formation was done in honor of John W. It was good to meet all who attended. Jimmy Young FS II, Generac V-Twin Houston, TX ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:26:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: off field landings From: "planecrazzzy" To overcome your fear of Flat Fields.... Fly over Water , Forests , Mountain terrain, swamp & populated areas.... Then maybe taking your chances on a field will look better.... Make sure your fuel "Vents" are below your tanks..... If you end up on yer top side....The fuel won't leak out... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192699#192699 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:56 PM PST US From: "Tom Longo" Subject: Kolb-List: 503 DCDI for Sale I have a 503 DCDI complete with B gearbox 2.58 ratio, muffler, oil injection with aluminum tank, fuel pump and other extras. The motor has less than 70 hrs of use and is not electric start. Thanks, Tom -- Checked by AVG. 6:49 AM ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:23 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Camping Gear Hi Gang: I've had a few folks lately, ask me about what they need to make a multi-day cross country flight in a Kolb. Primarily, good high quality gear. If you skimp on your camping gear, you may ruin your flight because you can't be comfortable and get a good night's rest. I buy most all my gear at Campmor, on line. Have been a customer for many years. What prompted me to write this email was a sale notice I got from Campmor today. They have their best Thermarest air mattresses on sale. I bought one like this last year and paid $50.00 more than the current sale price: http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___41003?ctm=1-41003 I also have a good quality 0 degree and a 40 degree sleeping bag. There are times, like flying out West, also at Sun and Fun, that I carry both bags. Being too cold will ruin your night's rest. I like synthetic fill bags. Down is great until it gets wet. Then it is like wet toilet paper. Damn near useless. I also take a cheap Walmart throw pillow, small in size. You can spend as much as you care for a tent. I have 2, 3, and 4 man tents I fly with, depending on how long I am going to be in one spot. OSH I like a big roomy tent because I will be there all week. Same for LAL. On the go a lot, and a two man tent will suffice. This is the tent I used on my last flight West: http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___28103 I like free standing tents. They work great on tarmac or inside a hanger or under a patio cover. That way you can keep your gear dry and not have to roll up soggy tents in the morning. I also have this tent in a 3 man version. It is a little larger package and a little heavier, but gives one a little more room to throw your gear around inside the tent. I like to put all my stuff inside with me. Makes it east to get to if I need it. I have a bunch of other lesser, but just as important stuff I take with me to make life comfortable and enjoyable. I'll try and share some of the accessories at a later time. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Camping Gear From: "icrashrc" John, Thanks for the info on camping gear. It's useful info like this that keeps me reading the list daily. Next time you get bored could you post a list of what you normally carry as far as emergency supplies? Not necessarily what you take to Alaska, just what you keep on-board for flights like you made last weekend. Thanks Scott -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192782#192782 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:42 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: I flew my FireStar into a dust devil and almost ended in a spin _Click here: Kolb FireStar flys into a dust devil_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7573162002604571127&hl=en) Greetings, This Sunday we all flew to a small airport and while filming some ultralights on the way back I ran into a clear air dust devil. I was flying very slow and when the left wing dropped I moved the stick full right but I had no response. I dropped the camera pushed the nose down and check to see if I hadn't lost one of my ailerons. Then I throttled up and flew out of the dust devil. When I checked my camera for damaged I noticed it had been on throughout the maneuver. After I had everything squared away I continued filming and my flight was uneventful after that. Dave was working on his Mosquito and getting it ready for it's first flight. Two of the other planes in my flight went down with a collapsed nose gear on the weedhopper and a hole in the XAir's engine, both planes should be in the air by next Sunday. Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II 360 hours **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Dipole antenna from co-ax From: "icrashrc" I know I've seen on the list how to make a dipole antenna out of co-ax. I just spent the last hour searching the archives and can't find the post again. Anyone remember who had that info or know where to find it? 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