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1. 08:02 AM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (Southern Reflections)
2. 08:33 AM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (John Hauck)
3. 02:21 PM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (Southern Reflections)
4. 02:45 PM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (robert bean)
5. 06:02 PM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (John Hauck)
6. 08:30 PM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (Southern Reflections)
7. 08:34 PM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 08:51 PM - Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire (John Hauck)
Message 1
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
Why Not...... One more little idea that could help, instead of a lot of
second guessing, and would of ,should of could of. It's called prevention !
Great Idea . safety wired the easy one's yesterday,and the hard ones under
the plane and against the fire wall today Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamp Safety Wire
>
> John,
>
> Not on an aircraft engine. I have had problems with some on oil cooler
> lines on VWs. Probably poor quality clamps.
>
> Steven
> do not archive
>
>> Hi Steven G:
>>
>> Thanks for the tip.
>>
>> Why did you safety the hose clamps? Did you have a problem with one
>> loosening up?
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
> Why Not...... One more little idea that could help, instead of a lot
of
> second guessing, and would of ,should of could of. It's called prevention
> ! Great Idea . safety wired the easy one's yesterday,and the hard ones
> under the plane and against the fire wall today Joe N101HD
Joe:
Don't think anyone has established a requirement for safety wiring hose
clamps. I looked and turned up zilch.
Preventing the screw from backing out of the clamp is not the problem, when
a hose pulls or is blown loose from a fitting. Compression and shrinkage is
the problem, which requires periodic retightening of the clamp and/or
replacing the hose.
Please tell us about your firewall. I don't have one.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
Glad to tell you about my firewall it's just foward of my dash and my feet
.It's really neat, and a good idea keep's the heat out of the cockpit,not to
mention the bugs and rain, it also hold's the engine mount,AND that holes
the engine that turns the little (68") blades in the front of the aieplane
and makes it go, I don't know who thought of it ,but it is a good idea just
like safety wireing hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about my fire
wall ,If you don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures. Joe
Zenith 601HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamp Safety Wire
>
>
> > Why Not...... One more little idea that could help, instead of a lot
> of
>> second guessing, and would of ,should of could of. It's called
>> prevention ! Great Idea . safety wired the easy one's yesterday,and the
>> hard ones under the plane and against the fire wall today Joe
>> N101HD
>
>
> Joe:
>
> Don't think anyone has established a requirement for safety wiring hose
> clamps. I looked and turned up zilch.
>
> Preventing the screw from backing out of the clamp is not the problem,
> when a hose pulls or is blown loose from a fitting. Compression and
> shrinkage is the problem, which requires periodic retightening of the
> clamp and/or replacing the hose.
>
> Please tell us about your firewall. I don't have one.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
har har, guess you stepped into that one John.....
This guy is from another universe.
I went to another fly in picnic today, breaking a record (for me)
Forecast to be windy, I brought along my ladyfriend for ballast
(don't tell her that)
Ground speed to: 40mph, great event with a considerable variety of
craft.
The folks there supplied chocks and bungees for gust locks and I
parked tail to the wind.
Nice brisk but smooth ride back but a scary struggle on short final,
bucking, dropping and climbing,
managing to stay out of the corn.
Think I'll stick to calmer air for a while.
BB
btw: ground speed return 90mph
On 17, Aug 2008, at 5:20 PM, Southern Reflections wrote:
> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>
> Glad to tell you about my firewall it's just foward of my dash and
> my feet .It's really neat, and a good idea keep's the heat out of
> the cockpit,not to mention the bugs and rain, it also hold's the
> engine mount,AND that holes the engine that turns the little (68")
> blades in the front of the aieplane and makes it go, I don't know
> who thought of it ,but it is a good idea just like safety wireing
> hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about my fire wall ,If you
> don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures. Joe Zenith
> 601HD
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamp Safety Wire
>
>
>>
>>
>> > Why Not...... One more little idea that could help, instead
>> of a lot
>> of
>>> second guessing, and would of ,should of could of. It's called
>>> prevention ! Great Idea . safety wired the easy one's
>>> yesterday,and the hard ones under the plane and against the fire
>>> wall today Joe N101HD
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe:
>>
>> Don't think anyone has established a requirement for safety wiring
>> hose clamps. I looked and turned up zilch.
>>
>> Preventing the screw from backing out of the clamp is not the
>> problem, when a hose pulls or is blown loose from a fitting.
>> Compression and shrinkage is the problem, which requires periodic
>> retightening of the clamp and/or replacing the hose.
>>
>> Please tell us about your firewall. I don't have one.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
I don't know who thought of it ,but it is a good idea just
> like safety wireing hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about my fire
> wall ,If you don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures. Joe
> Zenith 601HD
Joe:
Thanks for the info on fire walls.
Most of the aircraft I fly have the prop on top or the rear of the fuselage.
Still looking and waiting for someone to give me a requirement to safety
wire hose clamps.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
All in fun John. I still like the safety wire idea. Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamp Safety Wire
>
>
> I don't know who thought of it ,but it is a good idea just
>> like safety wireing hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about my fire
>> wall ,If you don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures. Joe
>> Zenith 601HD
>
>
> Joe:
>
> Thanks for the info on fire walls.
>
> Most of the aircraft I fly have the prop on top or the rear of the
> fuselage.
>
> Still looking and waiting for someone to give me a requirement to safety
> wire hose clamps.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
I have had a bunch of other things work loose or crack on my airplane but
never a hose clamp. I had a old cog belt redrive that was a pretty good
shaker and tester of anything that could work loose and I never had a hose
clamp work loose. Also if you get good hose I'm not sure one would come off
a fitting even without a hose clamp. Have your ever tried to remove a good
hose from a good fitting. It can't be done without making a slit in the
hose. No.... take the time to safety all your bolts, exhaust system, carb
boots etc. If you still NEED something to do go ahead and safety wire your
clamps.
My $.02 worth
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamp Safety Wire
>
>
> I don't know who thought of it ,but it is a good idea just
>> like safety wireing hose clamps, that's all I can tell you about my fire
>> wall ,If you don't under stand,I'll be glad to send pictures. Joe
>> Zenith 601HD
>
>
> Joe:
>
> Thanks for the info on fire walls.
>
> Most of the aircraft I fly have the prop on top or the rear of the
> fuselage.
>
> Still looking and waiting for someone to give me a requirement to safety
> wire hose clamps.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
>
Message 8
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| Subject: | Re: Hose Clamp Safety Wire |
Also if you get good hose I'm not sure one would come off
> a fitting even without a hose clamp. Have your ever tried to remove a good
> hose from a good fitting. It can't be done without making a slit in the
> hose.
> Rick Neilsen
Rick N:
This last 912ULS uses clampless oil fittings. Shove them on, after soaking
in boiling water, with a lot of effort. The blue oil line looks good and
will require a utility knife to remove when the time comes.
john h
mkIII
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