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Tue 08/19/08


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 03:47 PM - Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? (Denny Rowe)
     2. 04:04 PM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? (Larry Cottrell)
     3. 04:44 PM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? (DAquaNut@aol.com)
     4. 05:02 PM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? (Larry Cottrell)
     5. 05:50 PM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? (thumb)
     6. 06:30 PM - Kolbra Owners? (fencline)
     7. 06:47 PM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? (robert bean)
     8. 07:34 PM - Stuff (possums)
     9. 07:42 PM - Re: Stuff (robert bean)
    10. 08:19 PM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? (Denny Rowe)
    11. 08:31 PM - Re: Stuff (possums)
    12. 08:54 PM - Re: Stuff (JetPilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:47:15 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny@windstream.net>
    Subject: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    I recently bought an unused pair of steel (high rise) gear legs from a fellow lister to replace my original aluminum legs. Just spent the afternoon trying to set my alignment and get them both the same. I have the plane hanging from the hanger roof and a center line string pulled from the tail wheel to the nose hoop. Can't seem to figure out how to hold the legs in position while measuring alignment. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Denny Rowe


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    Time: 04:04:43 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    Hi, Just finished doing the same thing with my Firestar. Take the wheels off the axels and put them in the fittings on the inside of the legs. ( to the middle) and then take a flat piece of steel and clamp the axles to the steel. This will give you a straight line across with no toe in. As it was explained to me the steel legs don't need to have windage built in as is needed in the alum legs. It is a bit more sensitive without the toe in, but not a problem after you get used to it and the plane accelerates a lot faster without the drag of the toe in. As with all advice, it is worth what you paid for it, but I like mine that way. This was suggested to me by Terry Davis, and I appreciate it, and like it. Larry C Oregon Firestar 2, 427 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: Denny Rowe To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? I recently bought an unused pair of steel (high rise) gear legs from a fellow lister to replace my original aluminum legs. Just spent the afternoon trying to set my alignment and get them both the same. I have the plane hanging from the hanger roof and a center line string pulled from the tail wheel to the nose hoop. Can't seem to figure out how to hold the legs in position while measuring alignment. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Denny Rowe Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8/19/2008 6:04 AM


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    Time: 04:44:03 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    In a message dated 8/19/2008 5:47:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rowedenny@windstream.net writes: Can't seem to figure out how to hold the legs in position while measuring alignment. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Denny, If I understand your problem right and you are having trouble keeping the legs from sliding out you should be able to use a c-clamp or c-clamp vise grips. Place them over the steel gear leg socket and squeeze just enough to compress to contact the gear leg. This should make them stay put. If I dont understand what you are up against.........never mind . Ed Diebel **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)


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    Time: 05:02:45 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    If that is the case with them clamped in position, you can either lower them until they contact the floor, or tie them up with the clamped bar. Larry C ----- Original Message ----- From: DAquaNut@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? In a message dated 8/19/2008 5:47:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rowedenny@windstream.net writes: Can't seem to figure out how to hold the legs in position while measuring alignment. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Denny, If I understand your problem right and you are having trouble keeping the legs from sliding out you should be able to use a c-clamp or c-clamp vise grips. Place them over the steel gear leg socket and squeeze just enough to compress to contact the gear leg. This should make them stay put. If I dont understand what you are up against.........never mind . Ed Diebel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8/19/2008 6:04 AM


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    Time: 05:50:01 PM PST US
    From: "thumb" <bill_joe@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    Hi Denny. Here is how I did mine. I jacked the plane up and put blocks under the cage just about where the gear legs go in. Pushed the new legs up to the mark that was put on them by Kolb , the marks tells you how far to push them up in the tube. I too two pieces of 5/8 rod about 12 inches each and pushed them on the axel holes.. I then took a piece of one inch angle iron that bought at tractor supply that was long enough to reach each axel.. Clamped that with C-clamps to the 5/8 rod and that will give you straight alignment with 0 toe in or toe out.. Worked great for me. You know we should take pictures when we do things like this so we can show others. I think I will from now on. Bill Futrell Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Denny Rowe To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? I recently bought an unused pair of steel (high rise) gear legs from a fellow lister to replace my original aluminum legs. Just spent the afternoon trying to set my alignment and get them both the same. I have the plane hanging from the hanger roof and a center line string pulled from the tail wheel to the nose hoop. Can't seem to figure out how to hold the legs in position while measuring alignment. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Denny Rowe


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    Time: 06:30:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Kolbra Owners?
    From: "fencline" <fencline1@verizon.net>
    I am considering buying a Kolbra or MarkIII. Have been flying my 1950 Pacer for last 10 years and it is time to do something different. I have always liked the Kolb design and think that is the direction I would like to go. I like tandem seating, hence the Kolbra. The only thing I remember not liking about the MarkIII was the control stick between the passenger and the pilot. Has anyone done a design with the control between the legs? Anyone else here gone from certificated aircraft to these lighter aircraft. Thoughts? I would really like to fly in whatever I am going to buy before purchasing. I contacted Kolb via e-mail with several questions. The reply was prompt but did little to answer questions. Was told to come to homecoming in September and I could get a flight but they weren't sure if there would be a Kolbra there or not. I will try the direct call method and see if I have better luck that way. Are there any other discussion boards out there. Other links to information? Thanks in advance for any info. you can provide, Andy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199565#199565


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    Time: 06:47:38 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    As you probably know already, the steel legs provide a new angular perspective to deal with. The old straight legs could be adjusted at the axle only. Coming from an inexperienced point of view, I would use some guesswork on the legs and then adjust the axles at a happy midpoint for an initial setting. All the above would have to be done under full load. -no hanging from supports, etc. Let us know regarding progress as I may go the same route eventually. BB, sorta straight alum legs, MkIII On 19, Aug 2008, at 6:44 PM, Denny Rowe wrote: > I recently bought an unused pair of steel (high rise) gear legs > from a fellow lister to replace my original aluminum legs. > Just spent the afternoon trying to set my alignment and get them > both the same. > I have the plane hanging from the hanger roof and a center line > string pulled from the tail wheel to the nose hoop. > Can't seem to figure out how to hold the legs in position while > measuring alignment. > Any and all suggestions are appreciated. > > Denny Rowe > >


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    Time: 07:34:03 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Stuff
    Me & Icrashrc got a new Disney World ride. Go to Possums Videos "Two" He's got it down to 1.4 MB http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/possums_video.htm


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    Time: 07:42:28 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Stuff
    That was a short ride. BB (but then we didn't have to pay disney :) On 19, Aug 2008, at 10:33 PM, possums wrote: > Me & Icrashrc got a new Disney World ride. > Go to Possums Videos "Two" > He's got it down to 1.4 MB > > http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/possums_video.htm > > > <Clip1.jpg>


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    Time: 08:19:33 PM PST US
    From: "Denny Rowe" <rowedenny@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    Thanks to all for the help!!! I'll be off to the local metal supplier in the morning for the 5/8" rod for alligning the axles, that is a great idea and as simple as it gets. Denny, kicking myself for not thinking of this, Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: thumb To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? Hi Denny. Here is how I did mine. I jacked the plane up and put blocks under the cage just about where the gear legs go in. Pushed the new legs up to the mark that was put on them by Kolb , the marks tells you how far to push them up in the tube. I too two pieces of 5/8 rod about 12 inches each and pushed them on the axel holes.. I then took a piece of one inch angle iron that bought at tractor supply that was long enough to reach each axel.. Clamped that with C-clamps to the 5/8 rod and that will give you straight alignment with 0 toe in or toe out.. Worked great for me. You know we should take pictures when we do things like this so we can show others. I think I will from now on. Bill Futrell Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Denny Rowe To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? I recently bought an unused pair of steel (high rise) gear legs from a fellow lister to replace my original aluminum legs. Just spent the afternoon trying to set my alignment and get them both the same. I have the plane hanging from the hanger roof and a center line string pulled from the tail wheel to the nose hoop. Can't seem to figure out how to hold the legs in position while measuring alignment. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. Denny Rowe href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8/19/2008 6:04 AM


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    Time: 08:31:50 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Stuff
    At 10:42 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote: > >That was a short ride. > >BB Well ...... "Beauford T" said that since I did it with one eye closed & all he thought it was pretty good. Besides, down here in Georgia we got our on 'N Nubers" you guys up north maybe didn't apply for: Works really good down here on the lakes. <http://www.tagtele.com/v/11924>Http://www.tagtele.com/v/11924


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    Time: 08:54:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stuff
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Oh my gawd ! I have never seen a Kolb flown like that... That was pretty awesome, what kind of airspeed and G load did you pull out at ? All I can say is that you have some big brass ##### Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199585#199585




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