Kolb-List Digest Archive

Wed 08/20/08


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:12 AM - Re: Kolbra Owners?  (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
     2. 09:22 AM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?  (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
     3. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: Kolbra Owners?  (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
     4. 12:32 PM - Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?  (thumb)
     5. 04:03 PM - Xtra (David Key)
     6. 04:59 PM - Landing gear (Jim Hauck)
     7. 09:16 PM - Mark II For Sale (Ron Behie)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:12:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolbra Owners?
    From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    "fencline" wrote: << I am considering buying a Kolbra or MarkIII. ... The only thing I remember not liking about the MarkIII was the control stick between the passenger and the pilot. Has anyone done a design with the control between the legs? >> Andy - I built my Mark-III Classic with the single central control stick. Like you, I was somewhat apprehensive about that setup because it was not exactly conventional. My only control stick experience was in Cubs and Champs, which are very conventional stick-between-your-legs airplanes. But in the 5 years I've been flying my Kolb, I've come to really appreciate the position of the stick. It falls very comfortably to the reach of your right hand, just outboard of the right knee, and it provides the full range of unobstructed side-to-side movement. The armrest between the seats is in the perfect position to support your arm while flying, making it quite comfortable. I like it. But, if you want the conventional dual stick setup, New Kolb offers that as an option. << Anyone else here gone from certificated aircraft to these lighter aircraft. Thoughts? Andy >> I hold a Private Pilot's license, but let my medical expire a couple of years ago when the new Sport Pilot rule came out. Been flying my Kolb as Sport Pilot ever since. Doesn't affect me much, as all my flying is recreational, and I don't feel as though I've lost any privileges or freedoms under Sport Pilot. I'm glad I can do my own maintenance and annuals - keeps the cost of my hobby reasonable. Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul in Cedar Crest, NM


    Message 2


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    Time: 09:22:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    << I'll be off to the local metal supplier in the morning for the 5/8" rod for alligning the axles, that is a great idea and as simple as it gets. Denny >> Hey Denny - Here's the cheapest way to do it: Go to Home Depot and buy a "grounding rod," like what electricians use for grounding a house. It's 5/8 inch diameter, smooth, copper plated, and about 6 feet long. You can use it to pass thru BOTH gear fittings at once, thus eliminating the need for the angle iron and clamps. Dennis Kirby Mark-3 New Mexico


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    Time: 09:50:36 AM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolbra Owners?
    Andy I also have a MKIIIC and came from general aviation. These planes have a light wing loading that will get bounced around in thermals. They also have very little mass combined with a fair amount of drag that will catch people with GA experience off guard when you flair for landing, They slow down VERY quickly. Every thing else is very positive. The visibility is so wonderful you will never go back to GA. As for the center stick it has become very natural to me to fly with it. The only down side is trying to fold maps on a cross country. It sure would be nice to clamp that stick between my legs so I could use two hands from time to time. I have watched people get in and out of the dual stick MKIII and it is a chore but I'm sure you would get used to that also. Also if you want to save yourself a bunch of money you can order the VW mount and put a redrive VW on a MKIII C or X. It is too wide a mount for the Kolbra. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolbra Owners? > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > > "fencline" wrote: << I am considering buying a Kolbra or MarkIII. ... > The only thing I remember not liking about the MarkIII was the control > stick between the passenger and the pilot. Has anyone done a design with > the control between the legs? >> > > Andy - > > I built my Mark-III Classic with the single central control stick. Like > you, I was somewhat apprehensive about that setup because it was not > exactly conventional. My only control stick experience was in Cubs and > Champs, which are very conventional stick-between-your-legs airplanes. > But in the 5 years I've been flying my Kolb, I've come to really > appreciate the position of the stick. It falls very comfortably to the > reach of your right hand, just outboard of the right knee, and it > provides the full range of unobstructed side-to-side movement. The > armrest between the seats is in the perfect position to support your arm > while flying, making it quite comfortable. I like it. > > But, if you want the conventional dual stick setup, New Kolb offers that > as an option. > > << Anyone else here gone from certificated aircraft to these lighter > aircraft. Thoughts? Andy >> > > I hold a Private Pilot's license, but let my medical expire a couple of > years ago when the new Sport Pilot rule came out. Been flying my Kolb > as Sport Pilot ever since. Doesn't affect me much, as all my flying is > recreational, and I don't feel as though I've lost any privileges or > freedoms under Sport Pilot. I'm glad I can do my own maintenance and > annuals - keeps the cost of my hobby reasonable. > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-III, 912ul in > Cedar Crest, NM > > >


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    Time: 12:32:12 PM PST US
    From: "thumb" <bill_joe@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ?
    Hey guys the angle of the axels will not allow a solid piece of 5.8 rod to pass through them. I don't think they get that way even with full weight on them unless you have a couple guys in the plane. If we are talking about the new steel gear from Kolb, the hollow tubing. Bill Futrell Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Installing new steel gear legs on Mk-3 Classic ? > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > > << I'll be off to the local metal supplier in the morning for the 5/8" > rod > for alligning the axles, that is a great idea and as simple as it gets. > Denny >> > > Hey Denny - > > Here's the cheapest way to do it: Go to Home Depot and buy a "grounding > rod," like what electricians use for grounding a house. It's 5/8 inch > diameter, smooth, copper plated, and about 6 feet long. You can use it > to pass thru BOTH gear fittings at once, thus eliminating the need for > the angle iron and clamps. > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-3 > New Mexico > > >


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    Time: 04:03:09 PM PST US
    From: David Key <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Xtra
    I've been looking at RV's lately let me know if you want a two person Xtra.


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    Time: 04:59:20 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Hauck" <jimh474@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Landing gear
    Y'all; Using a round rod to go from axle socket to axle socket is fine as long at the rod, which will have a slight bend in it due to the camber set in the axle sockets. If the rod isn't 90 deg. from the floor depending which way it is tilted you will either get toe in or toe out. If it is out of plumb to the rear you will get toe in, tilted forward you will get toe out. Just a thought. Jim Hauck


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    Time: 09:16:37 PM PST US
    From: Ron Behie <rbehie@rogers.com>
    Subject: Mark II For Sale
    I am selling my TwinStar Mark II. It is in Canada and you can view the ad here. http://london.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-other-Kolb-TwinStar-Mark-II- Ultralight-W0QQAdIdZ67046933 Ron Do Not Archive




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