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1. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: Steel Gear Legs (John Hauck)
2. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Steel Gear Legs (Denny Rowe)
3. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Steel Gear Legs (HShack@aol.com)
4. 12:21 PM - Flight Instuction (Sara Grassel)
5. 03:18 PM - Checking Your ASI (Jack B. Hart)
6. 04:21 PM - Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI (william sullivan)
7. 04:54 PM - Re: Checking Your ASI (herb)
8. 05:03 PM - Re: Checking Your ASI (John Hauck)
9. 05:16 PM - Re: Checking Your ASI (robert bean)
10. 06:02 PM - Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI (william sullivan)
11. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI (John Hauck)
12. 06:18 PM - Re: Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI (william sullivan)
13. 08:54 PM - Re: What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark III? (cristalclear13)
14. 08:59 PM - Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day (cristalclear13)
15. 09:56 PM - Re: Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day (Carlos)
16. 10:02 PM - Re: Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day (Robert Laird)
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Gear Legs |
> Coop,
> Can't help with the Slingshot gear leg info, but my Mk-3 legs had (insert
> to lines) on them from the factory.
>
> Denny
Denny/Gang:
Brother Jim and I found through experimentation and testing, back in
1987-88, a way to get the most out of the gear leg sockets. That was to
push our steel gear legs all the way in until they bottomed out at the
intersection of the gear leg sockets. This spreads the load through out the
length of the socket.
We installed our initial set of steel legs as the FS plans called for, at
midpoint in the socket. Tested during a crash on Grand Island, NY, 1988,
the left leg sheared the gear leg socket at the mid point. Our next set of
gear legs were lengthened and pushed all the way in until they bottomed out.
Further tests (crashes) in 1993 and 2000, in the MKIII, bent gear legs 90
degrees with no damage to the sockets.
Midpoint of the socket is the weakest position. Makes for a lighter,
shorter leg, but weaker socket.
john h
mkIII - Who tests his landing gear quite frequently and unintentionally.
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Gear Legs |
Thanks John,
Makes a lot of sense. My legs are way past half way in but probably an inch
or so shy of all the way.
Since I have them drilled and at the powder coating shop, I guess it'll have
to be close enough.
Denny Rowe
John H wrote>
> Denny/Gang:
>
> Brother Jim and I found through experimentation and testing, back in
> 1987-88, a way to get the most out of the gear leg sockets. That was to
> push our steel gear legs all the way in until they bottomed out at the
> intersection of the gear leg sockets. This spreads the load through out
> the length of the socket.
>
> We installed our initial set of steel legs as the FS plans called for, at
> midpoint in the socket. Tested during a crash on Grand Island, NY, 1988,
> the left leg sheared the gear leg socket at the mid point. Our next set
> of gear legs were lengthened and pushed all the way in until they bottomed
> out. Further tests (crashes) in 1993 and 2000, in the MKIII, bent gear
> legs 90 degrees with no damage to the sockets.
>
> Midpoint of the socket is the weakest position. Makes for a lighter,
> shorter leg, but weaker socket.
>
> john h
> mkIII - Who tests his landing gear quite frequently and unintentionally.
>
>
> 270.6.6/1627 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:48 AM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Gear Legs |
On my FS II ('98 Model) the right gear leg socket gave way & also damaged a
wing tip after about 300 hours. The other gear leg was just about to let go.
I fitted a new cage. The gear legs were only half way up the socket; easy
to see how metal fatigue would break the socket.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
In a message dated 8/22/2008 9:11:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
We installed our initial set of steel legs as the FS plans called for, at
midpoint in the socket. Tested during a crash on Grand Island, NY, 1988,
the left leg sheared the gear leg socket at the mid point. Our next set of
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| Subject: | Flight Instuction |
Does anyone know where I could get flight instruction for flying
a Kolb in California, Arizona or Nevada. I live in California.
I have been flying a Hurricane for ten years.
Please call me at (818) 249-5573 or email me at sgrassel@earthlink.net.
Martin Grassel
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| Subject: | Checking Your ASI |
Bill,
It took me more than a few days. One way it can be done may be seen
at:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly144.html
Fly Safe!
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI |
- Thanks, Jack.- I will have someone grab it out of the wreck so I can
play with it.
-
do not archive
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-------------------- Bill Sullivan
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| Subject: | Re: Checking Your ASI |
The way I did it also...just pump a differential into the manometer
and read the airspeed...The adjusting of the airspeed indicator gets
a bit complicated... :-) Herb
At 06:21 PM 8/22/2008, you wrote:
>
>
>Bill,
>
>It took me more than a few days. One way it can be done may be seen
>at:
>
>http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly144.html
>
>Fly Safe!
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
>Winchester, IN
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Checking Your ASI |
> The way I did it also...just pump a differential into the manometer
> and read the airspeed...The adjusting of the airspeed indicator gets a
> bit complicated... :-) Herb
Gang:
More times than not the problem is with accurate static pressure and not the
ASI, if you bought or obtained an ASI that was certified, of good quality,
and not damaged.
Are you all correcting static pressure, or checking accuracy of your
instrument only?
TAS is not important flying our type aircraft, however an ASI that is
consistent gets the job done to let you know when the aircraft will stall,
normally.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Checking Your ASI |
Last saturday Bob Erb and I were flying together. His FSII was going
70 and,
right alongside, my MkIII was going 60 :)
BB
On 22, Aug 2008, at 8:03 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> > The way I did it also...just pump a differential into the manometer
>> and read the airspeed...The adjusting of the airspeed indicator
>> gets a bit complicated... :-) Herb
>
>
> Gang:
>
> More times than not the problem is with accurate static pressure
> and not the ASI, if you bought or obtained an ASI that was
> certified, of good quality, and not damaged.
>
> Are you all correcting static pressure, or checking accuracy of
> your instrument only?
>
> TAS is not important flying our type aircraft, however an ASI that
> is consistent gets the job done to let you know when the aircraft
> will stall, normally.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI |
- My wife was out, so I snuck out to the plane and grabbed the dashboard.
- I gently blew into the lines, and found that the former owner had hooke
d the lines backwards!- The static air line had been hooked to the pitot
tube, and vice versa.-
- Thanks to all.
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------- Bill Sullivan
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI |
Bill S:
I think that thing is called an "instrument panel" in an airplane. Dashboa
rd in an automobile.
john h
mkIII
My wife was out, so I snuck out to the plane and grabbed the dash
board. I gently blew into the lines, and found that the former owner had h
ooked the lines backwards! The static air line had been hooked to the pito
t tube, and vice versa.
Thanks to all.
Bill Sullivan
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI |
- You are right, John, but you couldn't tell by looking at the remains!
-
---do not archive
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----------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Sat, 8/23/08, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb List: checking your ASI
Bill S:
-
I think that thing is called an "instrument panel" in an airplane.- Dashb
oard in an automobile.
-
john h
mkIII
-
- My wife was out, so I snuck out to the plane and grabbed the dashboard.
- I gently blew into the lines, and found that the former owner had hooke
d the lines backwards!- The static air line had been hooked to the pitot
tube, and vice versa.-
- Thanks to all.
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------- Bill Sullivan
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| Subject: | Re: What is the Difference btw a twinstar, mark II and Mark |
III?
John Williamson wrote:
> Hi Grant and All,
>
> This .pdf file is a short history of the Kolb line of aircraft. It might answer
a few of your questions.
I have been wondering how old the Kolb Mark II Twinstar is that I bought. I don't
have the complete history of it. I appreciate the pdf that John W. attached
telling Kolb history. It's a great article. It said the original Kolb Twinstar
(not enclosed) came out in 1984, but it didn't say what year the Mark II
(enclosed) came out.
In the email from EAA I saw that I could search online through EAA Sport Aviation
magazine articles since 1953. I found an article from 1987 stating that the
Mark II debuted at Sun N Fun that year.
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0041#200041
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| Subject: | Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day |
Tropical Storm Fay stalled out and stuck around a whole lot longer than she was
supposed to...ruining my plans for flying this week and weekend!
I NOW understand my husband's addiction to fishing...I'm quickly developing an
addiction to flying! I've got the itch! I've gotta fly my Kolb!
[Wink]
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0042#200042
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| Subject: | Re: Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day |
Hi Cristal,
Maybe you should think about floats..... :-)
Hope the weather improves
Carlos G.
AKA
BaronVonEvil
----- Original Message -----
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:59 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day
> <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>
> Tropical Storm Fay stalled out and stuck around a whole lot longer than
> she was supposed to...ruining my plans for flying this week and weekend!
>
> I NOW understand my husband's addiction to fishing...I'm quickly
> developing an addiction to flying! I've got the itch! I've gotta fly my
> Kolb!
> [Wink]
>
> --------
> Cristal Waters
> Mark II Twinstar
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0042#200042
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day |
Yup, floats are cool not just because you can land on water, but, if it
starts raining, you just fly upside down! ;-)
-- Robert
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Carlos <grageda@innw.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Cristal,
>
> Maybe you should think about floats..... :-)
>
> Hope the weather improves
>
> Carlos G.
> AKA
> BaronVonEvil
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristalclear13" <
> cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:59 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Fay Fay Go Away so I can fly another day
>
>
>> cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
>>
>> Tropical Storm Fay stalled out and stuck around a whole lot longer than
>> she was supposed to...ruining my plans for flying this week and weekend!
>>
>> I NOW understand my husband's addiction to fishing...I'm quickly
>> developing an addiction to flying! I've got the itch! I've gotta fly my
>> Kolb!
>> [Wink]
>>
>> --------
>> Cristal Waters
>> Mark II Twinstar
>>
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0042#200042
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