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1. 02:46 AM - Re: Total Time unopened engine? (Denny Rowe)
2. 03:19 AM - Re: Kolb Firestat II and Sport Pilot (kmccune)
3. 05:07 AM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (cristalclear13)
4. 05:20 AM - Re: Kolb Firestat II and Sport Pilot (cristalclear13)
5. 05:36 AM - Re: (Long) Cross Country Dreams (cristalclear13)
6. 05:37 AM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (WillUribe@aol.com)
7. 06:12 AM - Re: Total Time unopened engine? (Eugene Zimmerman)
8. 06:32 AM - Re: (Long) Cross Country Dreams (Russ RKI Photo)
9. 06:43 AM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (lucien)
10. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Cross Country Dreams (robert bean)
11. 07:43 AM - Re: (Long) Cross Country Dreams (TheWanderingWench)
12. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MK III Xtra For Sale (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
13. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Cross Country Dreams (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
14. 10:32 AM - Re: Kolb Firestat II and Sport Pilot (kmccune)
15. 10:34 AM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (willuribe@aol.com)
16. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Cross Country Dreams (robert bean)
17. 04:22 PM - Re: Flying Weather (JetPilot)
18. 05:13 PM - Re: Total Time unopened engine? (Ralph B)
19. 05:26 PM - Re: cross countrys (Ralph B)
20. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: Total Time unopened engine? (John Hauck)
21. 06:08 PM - Re: Total Time unopened engine? (Ralph B)
22. 06:57 PM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (cristalclear13)
23. 07:07 PM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (N111KX (Kip))
24. 07:07 PM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (cristalclear13)
25. 07:14 PM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (N111KX (Kip))
26. 08:09 PM - Re: Cross Country Dreams (WillUribe@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Total Time unopened engine? |
Gene,
What 2 stroke oil are you using.
Denny
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestat II and Sport Pilot |
If I understand what your saying and interpreting the chart correctly. If he has
a tail-wheel endorsement in say a J3,That he could fly the Kolb? Does this
also mean that he could also fly a Preceptor Pup for example, with out further
endorsement's? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm just happily building my airplane
myself ( CH 701), I still have not crossed any of these bridges myself yet.
The fly off hours are not an issue as his buddy flys for North West.
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
lucien wrote:
>
> Actually, even at $1.50 to $2 more per gallon for avgas, you're not looking at
too huge of an increase in fuel cost. i.e. if you burn 4gph, you're only down
about $8 hour more worst case scenario of $2. The delta is typically more like
1.50 but $8/hour is still a total steal for being able to fly through the air.
>
> I also agree with John, getting gas locally pays for itself in the long run by
helping to keep the airports, FBO's and services around.
>
>
> LS
On a 10 hour trip that would add up to $80 one way, $160 round trip. I don't know
about you rich retired folks, but that's a lot of money to me. I'm one of
those type of people who would LIKE to keep the local grocery store open by giving
them my business but who has to shop at Walmart because the difference in
my total grocery bill would really hurt.
But I also understand what John is saying about having to put gas in the courtesy
car and also keeping FBOs in business.
It would also save time on such a long trip to just fill up at the airport. So
I'd have to weigh out all those things.
Why can one airport (like the very small airport of Homerville) offer gas at the
same price as auto gas (3 something) and another airport have to charge 5-6?
I would think the larger airports could charge even less since they more than
likely get more business.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestat II and Sport Pilot |
kmccune wrote:
> If I understand what your saying and interpreting the chart correctly. If he
has a tail-wheel endorsement in say a J3,That he could fly the Kolb? Does this
also mean that he could also fly a Preceptor Pup for example, with out further
endorsement's? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm just happily building my airplane
myself ( CH 701), I still have not crossed any of these bridges myself yet.
> The fly off hours are not an issue as his buddy flys for North West.
>
> Kevin
Your interpretation is probably as good as mine. I don't know the KCAS (Knots
Calibrated Air Speed) VH (Maximum Level Flight Speed with Continuous Power) of
those airplanes you mentioned...actually I don't know if the Kolb Firestar II
falls into the 87 category.
Here's another link that has a little more explanation of the category and design
differences (page 3):
http://www.sweeneycorp.com/LSA-SetsofAircraft.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: (Long) Cross Country Dreams |
Arty Trost wrote:
> Hi Cristal -
>
> You've already gotten lots of great suggestions about making a cross-country
flight. I have done a lot of long cross countries (not long compared to John Hauck
and some of the others, but compared to most light sport/ultralight pilots.>:)
I have a Rotax 503; like you, no oil injection - I mix my own oil/gas.I
also have a very basic GPS - no airports or moving maps. Just an arrow pointing
the way,yet does show track, bearing, altitude, ETA, speed over the ground.
>
> Anyway - you've gotten a number of suggestions regarding sites for flight planning.
As Larry Cottell can tell you, (we flew on a long cross-country last year,)
I prefer to do my flight planning by looking at sectionals and road/topo
maps. Why? Because the on-line flight planners give you point-to-point info,
and I fly IFR. Not always - but often. Why? Well, with a 2-cycle, I don't
have the absolute confidence in it that a 4-cycle, or certificated engine pilot
might have. I also think about what might happen if I go down - I want 1)
to be able to get my plane out, if it's not able to be flown out of the crash
site; 2) for emergency vehicles to be able to get to me, if necessary. That means
not being too far from a road. That doesn't mean I never fly away from a
road - it just means that for purposes of flight planning I plan with following
roads in mind, and then deviate when the terrain is conducive.
>
> With 10 gallons, and burning 5 gpm (I know, you wrote 4-5, but when fully loaded
with camping gear it might be more,) you should be able to plan 100-115 mile
legs, and that's being safely conservative - unless you run into major headwinds,
of course. If you can't find an airport with gas or a courtesy car, I've
had good success with flying around the perimeter of a small town, slowly, and
then landing nearby. So far, 100% of the time, someone will drive over to
see what this strange looking bird is. Then I ask for a ride to town for food
or gas. So far, I've never been turned down. Twice, in Nevada, far from even
a small town, I've landed as close as possible to a ranch home and asked to
buy gas. Those ranches out in the middle of nowhere usually have a 500 gal tank,
since they can't be running into town to fill up. My guess, though, is that
once you start doing your planning, you'll see how many airports there are along
your route.
>
> A gadget that I find indispensable for flight planning is a Scalex MapWheel.
It's a nifty little instrument, battery-powered, that you run over a map or sectional
and it measures distance in miles, kilometres or nautical miles. I can
"trace" every little wiggle on the map and know exactly how many miles I'll
be flying.My GPS will show me point to point distance, but the Scalex shows you
actual distance if you're not going point to point.
>
> I absolutely agree with the several other Kolbers who said to start with shorter
cross-countries and work your way up to your - VERY DO-ABLE - 600 mile dream
flight. There's a tired-ness factor that hasn't been mentioned yet. There's
additional stress when you've flying over new terrain far from home, and if
you're fighting a headwind or any type of turbulence, that can also be weary-ing.
Here in northwestern Oregon, we have a ready-made "first long cross-country"
flight that we recommend. It's flying from the Portland area to the EAA airshow
at Arlington, Washington. It's 250 miles (one way), over quite varied terrain.
>
> You haven't said yet whether you'll be flying with someone/s else or not. I highly
recommend that you do, as you get acclimated to flying cross-country. It's
great to be able to discuss things both before and after each leg, as well
as in the air.
>
> Also - are you able to do trouble shooting and field repairs yourself? This is
something else to consider if you're flying a long ways from home and by yourself.
Many of the guys on this list are great mechanics, and that can be crucial
if you have a forced landing an bend a gear leg or incur some other type of
damage. Last fall I was with 2 other light sport pilots. We landed on top
of a mesa and I had a rock go through my prop, breaking a blade, and also flattened
a tire (and crumpled the hub) in the process. I would have been in real
trouble if I'd been by myself. They flew to an airport about 30 miles away and
were able to bring back a new prop blade, tire and hub. (I was extra-ordinarily
lucky that all of that stuff was available locally.) For me, it's also a
matter of strength - or not enough of it. I'm 4'11" tall and weigh 105 lbs.
I can't lift up a gear leg or a wing by myself.
>
> Keep doing what you're doing - asking for information. Sift through it and decide
what makes sense for you and the way you fly. Best of luck - you'll LOVE
cross-country flying. But warning - it's addictive!
>
> Arty Trost
> Maxair Drifter
> Sandy, Oregon
>
>
I'm so glad to hear from you Arty and such wonderful advice. I really appreciate
it! Thanks!
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
Greetings,
Some of my ultralight flying buddies buy their fuel at the gas station and
that is OK. My home airport is privately owned and is supported in part by
fuel sales. Every time I fuel up I buy from the airport pump after all I am
using his runway. And most important I know the fuel is good and has none of
government mandated additive junk they put in car gas.
Then there are those day I have to land at a truck stop for fuel
**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
deal here.
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
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| Subject: | Re: Total Time unopened engine? |
Denny,
Ask Terry. It is his plane. My record is not as good as his. In
fact I have my 618 apart at the moment for new pistons.
I'll let Terry tell you his "secret". ; )
Gene
On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:45 AM, Denny Rowe wrote:
>
>
> Gene,
> What 2 stroke oil are you using.
>
> Denny
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: (Long) Cross Country Dreams |
WW
You say 'I fly IFR' -- do you mean I Follow Roads? Sounbds like it.
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
cristalclear13 wrote:
>
>
> On a 10 hour trip that would add up to $80 one way, $160 round trip. I don't
know about you rich retired folks, but that's a lot of money to me. I'm one
of those type of people who would LIKE to keep the local grocery store open by
giving them my business but who has to shop at Walmart because the difference
in my total grocery bill would really hurt.
>
I'm neither rich nor retired, but even so $80 to $160 is a fairly small percentage
of the overall cost of flying 10 hours. How much did you pay for your plane
and how much is the gross cost to fly it per hour?
If you do the math, considering everything - purchase price, maintenance, overhaul
cost, fixed costs, etc., $160 will actually be a pretty small figure in it
all...
Only if you fly a very inexpensive plane will something like that make a huge difference....
>
> But I also understand what John is saying about having to put gas in the courtesy
car and also keeping FBOs in business.
> It would also save time on such a long trip to just fill up at the airport.
So I'd have to weigh out all those things.
>
> Why can one airport (like the very small airport of Homerville) offer gas at
the same price as auto gas (3 something) and another airport have to charge 5-6?
I would think the larger airports could charge even less since they more than
likely get more business.
Like John, I also don't whine (in public ;)) about the cost of gas; I consider
the extra expense in avgas when I do need to fuel up at an airport an investment
in the airports I fly to and the personnel that keep them going.
But overall, it's not that much extra considering all the other costs, like I said.
As for the prices, it's pretty much a what-the-market-will-bear type of thing.
Albuquerque Intl., for example, charges at least $1 more for 100LL than most other
airports in this area, presumeably simply because they can sell it to the
bigger iron there for that price. The smaller airports can't sell it for that
much so they have to be in line with the local competitors.....
LS
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Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
The circumstances vary widely for our category. With me, the cost of
gas is about all there is to it.
I have perhaps about $13,000 in my low time MkIII with a very low
time 4 stroke on it.
I can't count the many hours of building and creating and tuning
because I am retired and don't
consider it "work" :)
Cost of hangar and airstrip: near zero (tenant farmer pays most taxes
for it)
Free A&P maintenance
Oil change every three years whether it needs it or not.
~ 2.5 gal/hr gas (it will burn just about anything that pours)
no insurance. If I total it I'll prorate the annual cost per year of
ownership.
I should be under $1000/year in a couple more years.
That leaves me resources for other pursuits in addition to flying.
BB
On 28, Aug 2008, at 9:43 AM, lucien wrote:
>
>
> cristalclear13 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On a 10 hour trip that would add up to $80 one way, $160 round
>> trip. I don't know about you rich retired folks, but that's a lot
>> of money to me. I'm one of those type of people who would LIKE to
>> keep the local grocery store open by giving them my business but
>> who has to shop at Walmart because the difference in my total
>> grocery bill would really hurt.
>>
>
>
> I'm neither rich nor retired, but even so $80 to $160 is a fairly
> small percentage of the overall cost of flying 10 hours. How much
> did you pay for your plane and how much is the gross cost to fly it
> per hour?
>
> If you do the math, considering everything - purchase price,
> maintenance, overhaul cost, fixed costs, etc., $160 will actually
> be a pretty small figure in it all...
>
> Only if you fly a very inexpensive plane will something like that
> make a huge difference....
>
>
>>
>> But I also understand what John is saying about having to put gas
>> in the courtesy car and also keeping FBOs in business.
>> It would also save time on such a long trip to just fill up at the
>> airport. So I'd have to weigh out all those things.
>>
>> Why can one airport (like the very small airport of Homerville)
>> offer gas at the same price as auto gas (3 something) and another
>> airport have to charge 5-6? I would think the larger airports
>> could charge even less since they more than likely get more business.
>
>
> Like John, I also don't whine (in public ;)) about the cost of gas;
> I consider the extra expense in avgas when I do need to fuel up at
> an airport an investment in the airports I fly to and the personnel
> that keep them going.
> But overall, it's not that much extra considering all the other
> costs, like I said.
>
> As for the prices, it's pretty much a what-the-market-will-bear
> type of thing. Albuquerque Intl., for example, charges at least $1
> more for 100LL than most other airports in this area, presumeably
> simply because they can sell it to the bigger iron there for that
> price. The smaller airports can't sell it for that much so they
> have to be in line with the local competitors.....
>
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1179#201179
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: (Long) Cross Country Dreams |
Yes - that's how I meant it. I thought my next sentence made it clear - sorry
that it wasn't as clear as I thought.
Arty
--- On Thu, 8/28/08, Russ RKI Photo <russ@rkiphoto.com> wrote:
> You say 'I fly IFR' -- do you mean I Follow Roads?
> Sounbds like it.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb MK III Xtra For Sale |
Bill
Florida is a sunny paradise. All but maybe the last picture looks like a
Michigan clear and mostly sunny day. When you live in a area where there
isn't a cloud in the sky for weeks to a month at a time you begin to
think of that as bad weather. I spend my winters in Florida and can't
believe the way Floridians act. One little cloud in the sky they call it
mostly cloudy. They also talk about wind chill when its in the low
seventies! If it drops way down into the sixties we see them walking
around in winter coats with hoods up and gloves.
A good IFR airplane is supposed to be a plane that will pretty much
flies straight and level through turbulence with your hands and feet off
the controls. A Kolb will never be a good IFR airplane. Sporty and
responsive doesn't make for good IFR. My enjoyment of flying is visual
if I can't see the ground I don't want to be flying.
Mike, all kidding aside get the plane that makes YOU happy.
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb MK III Xtra For Sale
Mike- This is the sunny paradise people retire to? When were
these taken? How did your Kolb handle it? What would it take to
convert yours to IFR? Just curious.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
Robert
You have done well. I figure my full up cost was $14,000 but then I had the
redrive problem a few years ago and had to add $1,800 for a total engine
rebuild so I'm up to about $16,000 now. I used to fly GA aircraft for fun
burning 8-16 gallons an hour depending on the plane in our flying club. Now
I burn 4 gallons an hour and no matter what the cost it is still cheep.
I change my oil every 25 hours or more when traveling but when it looks
dirty the rest of the time. Sometimes with as little as 10 hours. A oil
change is 2.5 quarts without a filter change. I buy good oil at cheap places
and feel that it is not just a longevity issue but a safety issue.
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert bean" <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Cross Country Dreams
>
> The circumstances vary widely for our category. With me, the cost of gas
> is about all there is to it.
> I have perhaps about $13,000 in my low time MkIII with a very low time 4
> stroke on it.
> I can't count the many hours of building and creating and tuning because
> I am retired and don't
> consider it "work" :)
>
> Cost of hangar and airstrip: near zero (tenant farmer pays most taxes for
> it)
>
> Free A&P maintenance
>
> Oil change every three years whether it needs it or not.
>
> ~ 2.5 gal/hr gas (it will burn just about anything that pours)
>
> no insurance. If I total it I'll prorate the annual cost per year of
> ownership.
> I should be under $1000/year in a couple more years.
>
> That leaves me resources for other pursuits in addition to flying.
> BB
>
> On 28, Aug 2008, at 9:43 AM, lucien wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> cristalclear13 wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestat II and Sport Pilot |
Thanks for the help, I'll pass it on and what as it happens.
Kevin
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you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
Hi Cristal,
A few years ago I asked the airport owner why his mowgas was?more expensive then
the gas stations?especially when?their is no road tax associated with the fuel
he buys (?He can't sell it to cars).?He got very upset and told me he pays
$30,000 a year for property tax plus the school tax, community collage tax and
the water district tax although we don't get water from any water district.
He had to make the money some how to pay all those taxes?and the up keep of the
airport property. He also has to buy a special?batch, with no juck, that is not
found locally so he needs to buy a tanker load. In Texas there is no income
tax so the property tax is a little higher then some other states.?And we pay
more school taxes because?of?all those RugRats that come across the border from
Mexico each day for a free Gringo education. (And whose parents don't pay any
kind of?state tax)
-----Original Message-----
From: cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
Sent: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 6:06 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Cross Country Dreams
Why can one airport (like the very small airport of Homerville) offer gas at the
same price as auto gas (3 something) and another airport have to charge 5-6? I
would think the larger airports could charge even less since they more than
likely get more business.
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
A fellow miser... warms my heart.
For oil I blend a mongrel mixture of valvoline - 3 qts 20-50 with1
gt 5-30 durablend semi-synthetic.
-for mysterious reasons perhaps not based on reality but it is an
extremely hardy fluid.
I don't put on a lot of time yearly with my kind of flying and at the
temps I operate, moisture isn't an issue.
I change oil on my car at around 6K, give or take one.
What I always found goofy were the folks who traded in their car at
50K and changed the oil a lot.
For what? the next guy? har har
A few years back I bought a 64 Lincoln from a millionaire who hadn't
changed it since new.
I put several K on it with no problems. That 430 could guzzle a lot
of $.25/gal gas.
Can't figure why we is running low on crude?
BB
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On 28, Aug 2008, at 1:02 PM, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote:
> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
> Robert
>
> You have done well. I figure my full up cost was $14,000 but then I
> had the redrive problem a few years ago and had to add $1,800 for a
> total engine rebuild so I'm up to about $16,000 now. I used to fly
> GA aircraft for fun burning 8-16 gallons an hour depending on the
> plane in our flying club. Now I burn 4 gallons an hour and no
> matter what the cost it is still cheep.
>
> I change my oil every 25 hours or more when traveling but when it
> looks dirty the rest of the time. Sometimes with as little as 10
> hours. A oil change is 2.5 quarts without a filter change. I buy
> good oil at cheap places and feel that it is not just a longevity
> issue but a safety issue.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert bean"
> <slyck@frontiernet.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Cross Country Dreams
>
>
>>
>> The circumstances vary widely for our category. With me, the cost
>> of gas is about all there is to it.
>> I have perhaps about $13,000 in my low time MkIII with a very low
>> time 4 stroke on it.
>> I can't count the many hours of building and creating and tuning
>> because I am retired and don't
>> consider it "work" :)
>>
>> Cost of hangar and airstrip: near zero (tenant farmer pays most
>> taxes for it)
>>
>> Free A&P maintenance
>>
>> Oil change every three years whether it needs it or not.
>>
>> ~ 2.5 gal/hr gas (it will burn just about anything that pours)
>>
>> no insurance. If I total it I'll prorate the annual cost per year
>> of ownership.
>> I should be under $1000/year in a couple more years.
>>
>> That leaves me resources for other pursuits in addition to flying.
>> BB
>>
>> On 28, Aug 2008, at 9:43 AM, lucien wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cristalclear13 wrote:
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Weather |
Tryng to dodge all those windmill blades would be a lot of fun in a Kolb [Wink]
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Total Time unopened engine? |
ez(at)embarqmail.com wrote:
> Denny,
> Ask Terry. It is his plane. My record is not as good as his. In fact I have
my 618 apart at the moment for new pistons.
>
>
> I'll let Terry tell you his "secret". ; )
>
>
> Gene
>
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:45 AM, Denny Rowe wrote:
>
> Gene,
> What 2 stroke oil are you using.
>
> Denny
>
I'll bet he is using Seafoam ....
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: cross countrys |
JetPilot wrote:
> The 196 is a great GPS, I have been using one for years and it has everything
I need and more. 350 is well worth the money for this Aviation GPS.
>
> Mike
I've been flying the Firestar in my backyard for years and a simple GPS is certainly
all that is needed. After buying the Kolbra, Mark German gave me a good
deal on his Garmin 196. It took some time to get used to, but it has all the airport
data that one one would need and more. It's quite a unit and makes flying
into new airports much easier with all the runway data and comm frequencies
at my fingertips.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Total Time unopened engine? |
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 21 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 0 years flying it
Ralph B:
That's a long time to be flying a FS. How many hours on airframe and
engine?
Aren't you flying your Kolbra? How many airframe and engine hours on it?
I had the honor of flying your airplane a few years ago at the Kolb
Homecoming. Flies like a big ole baby. I enjoyed flying it.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Total Time unopened engine? |
John Hauck wrote:
>
> Ralph B:
>
> That's a long time to be flying a FS. How many hours on airframe and
> engine?
>
> Aren't you flying your Kolbra? How many airframe and engine hours on it?
>
> I had the honor of flying your airplane a few years ago at the Kolb
> Homecoming. Flies like a big ole baby. I enjoyed flying it.
>
> john h
> mkIII
John and others,
I have about 26 hours flying the Kolbra. Since I still fly the Firestar, I have
to decided which one of the girls I'm taking out next. I still love my gentle
little Firestar. One thing that really bugs me about the Kolbra is the high stall
speed of 50mph (indicated) with a full load. It seems like it should be lower
than that, but I'm used to it now. I have to watch that airspeed in the turns.
I do like the weight of the machine on days that would toss the Firestar
around like a feather. I also like the reliability of the 912, however my 447
2-stroke has been good to me too.
Mark German told me that you have flown it. That is an honor. This plane is one
of the better custom-built machines with Mark's skilled workmanship. I will take
care of it.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
WillUribe(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Then there are those day I have to land at a truck stop for fuel
>
>
Did you land in the parking lot!? I love the look of the guy in the background
of the first picture...like "what in the world?!" [Laughing]
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
Ahhh...the Wild West lives...
WillUribe(at)aol.com wrote:
> Greetings,
> Some of my ultralight flying buddies buy their fuel at the gas station and
that is OK. My home airport is privately owned and is supported in part by fuel
sales. Every time I fuel up I buy from the airport pump after all I am using
his runway. And most important I know the fuel is good and has none of
government mandated additive junk they put in car gas.
>
> Then there are those day I have to land at a truck stop for fuel
>
>
>
>
> It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047).
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Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
lucien wrote:
> I'm neither rich nor retired, but even so $80 to $160 is a fairly small percentage
of the overall cost of flying 10 hours.
> LS
I was teasing about the rich, retired thing...nothing personal to anyone. No one
ever thinks they're rich anyways...there's always someone richer out there.
[Wink]
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Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
One factor in the big city is overhead. At the $5-6 price you may find a nice place
with self flushing toilets, weather computers, big screen TV's, trained line
personnel, new fuel trucks...ect. They have to attract the big wigs but they
may add a dollar here and there also...
[/quote]
Why can one airport (like the very small airport of Homerville) offer gas at the
same price as auto gas (3 something) and another airport have to charge 5-6?
I would think the larger airports could charge even less since they more than
likely get more business.[/quote]
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Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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| Subject: | Re: Cross Country Dreams |
Hi Cristal,
Out here in the wild west the truck stops have what looks like dirt runways
in the parking lot, that is what we use.
Regards,
Will Uribe
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<cristalclearwaters@juno.com>
WillUribe(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Then there are those days I have to land at a truck stop for fuel
>
>
Did you land in the parking lot!? I love the look of the guy in the
background of the first picture...like "what in the world?!" [Laughing]
--------
Cristal Waters
Mark II Twinstar
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