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1. 12:20 AM - Re: Puzzled (John Bickham)
2. 01:44 AM - Re: Puzzled (David Lucas)
3. 02:08 AM - Re: Re: Puzzled (pj.ladd)
4. 02:46 AM - Re: Re: passengers/ law suits? (pj.ladd)
5. 04:22 AM - resonance 912 (Ted Cowan)
6. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
7. 05:43 AM - Re: LSA (John Hauck)
8. 05:52 AM - Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
9. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: Not very Puzzled (russ kinne)
10. 06:30 AM - Re: resonance 912 (John Hauck)
11. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: fuel line? (robert bean)
12. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Not very Puzzled (Jim)
13. 06:58 AM - Re: Puzzled (JetPilot)
14. 07:09 AM - Re: Not very Puzzled (JetPilot)
15. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: fuel line? (John Hauck)
16. 07:13 AM - Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
17. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
18. 07:32 AM - Re: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming ()
19. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: fuel line? (robert bean)
20. 07:56 AM - Re: resonance 912 (VICTOR PETERS)
21. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Not very Puzzled (Southern Reflections)
22. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: fuel line? (John Hauck)
23. 08:03 AM - Poor posting etiquette (VICTOR PETERS)
24. 08:12 AM - Re: resonance 912 (John Hauck)
25. 08:12 AM - The Suggested Jetpilot Poll (Michael Sharp)
26. 08:17 AM - Re: fuel line? (JetPilot)
27. 08:29 AM - Re: The Suggested Jetpilot Poll (JetPilot)
28. 08:33 AM - Re: Poor posting etiquette (JetPilot)
29. 08:55 AM - Re: fuel line? (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
30. 08:55 AM - Re: Fusing the Ignition System (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
31. 09:04 AM - Re: fuel line? (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
32. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: LSA (Ed Chmielewski)
33. 10:15 AM - Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. (KOLB AIRCRAFT)
34. 10:43 AM - Re: LSA (Thom Riddle)
35. 11:05 AM - typos (robert bean)
36. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Puzzled (Eugene Zimmerman)
37. 12:08 PM - Re: Puzzled (Ralph B)
38. 12:09 PM - Fw: FlyChallenger: Re: Dead Stick Takeoff ()
39. 12:13 PM - Re: Puzzled (grantr)
40. 01:04 PM - Here we go again (Richard Girard)
41. 02:36 PM - Re: 3D (Eugene Zimmerman)
42. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: Puzzled (John Hauck)
43. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: Puzzled (Flycrazy8@aol.com)
44. 03:32 PM - Re: puzzled (william sullivan)
45. 03:52 PM - Re: Re: fuel line? (possums)
46. 05:12 PM - Re: LSA (George Alexander)
47. 06:07 PM - Re: Puzzled (Richard Pike)
48. 06:31 PM - Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming (N111KX (Kip))
49. 06:44 PM - Re: Puzzled (JetPilot)
50. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: Puzzled (John Hauck)
51. 08:22 PM - Re: Puzzled (JetPilot)
52. 09:10 PM - Re: Re: Puzzled (John Hauck)
53. 09:55 PM - Re: Homecoming (DAquaNut@aol.com)
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> We have been down this road before.
Your right and your always the one in the middle of the road!
I try my best to stay our of this stuff (nice word version). Can't let you insult
a good man like the Rev.
I wish you much success in selling your plane as soon as possible. There is a
silent majority that has chosen not to post to or participate in this list because
of this kind of stuff, of which you are the common denominator. I've been
told this over and over by many people. A lot of them have (or had) a lot more
to contribute to the list than you and I.
I do wish you the best. But I can't let you keep thinking most of us agree with
you and your position.
Fly more, type less.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as slow as you could have
!!!
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Mike,
If a poll were to be conducted amongst all members, on a voluntary basis, regarding
the incredibly strong way you respond to issues which have offended many
on the list, would you accept the result ?
You may not set out to offend people in your own thinking, but, most surely, it
is the result that I see.
David Lucas
Not a Kolb owner/flyer yet, just 62 years experience of life !
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If you believe in God, one day you will have to answer to him for it.>>
Good grief! If you think God monitors this list, man, do you have problems
Seems a little like overkill to start invoking the Diety when there is that
little key marked `DELETE` sitting right there on the keyboard.
Come off it
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: passengers/ law suits? |
I worked one up. maybe a bit overkill.:<<
I know that you are a litigious lot over there but that `blood chit` is
frightening. I just checked on of mine and it says
"I the undersigned understand that the flight I am taking is not a
commercial flight and that the pilot is absolved from any resposibilty or
claim resulting in an accident. Signed and dated"
As I said in my original post I don`t think one of these chits has ever been
tested in court and it doesn`t pretend to be a legal document. We just don`t
sue for a pastime over here, but unfortunately we are slowly moving in your
direction.
Pat
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Firstly, let me say to these two guys (men?), both of you shut up, nobody
wants to hear it. Take it to personal mail and not on the list. This is a
great list for information and experiences, not for arguing. One mans idea
is another mans folly. One size dont fit all. You have to pick and chose
what you want to do and how to do it. This list and its wonderful
participants only SUGGEST things based on their own experience. Nobody HAS
to do anything. If you dont like the advice, dont take it!!! Saying nasty
things to each other on this list is terrible. Shows your intelligence
level. Thats it.
Now, on to the resonance on my slingshot with a 912. Have tested out many
of the theories mentioned so far by several great guys. One that I have not
tested out so far is by John Hauck about putting my windows in. May not
have time before homecoming to try it but hope I do. Lots of humidity out
there now. Just about everything has been checked and double checked. I am
going to pull the filters off my carbs and watch them while tied down under
power enough to create the rum rum. Might be one of the slides are moving
up and down slightly. Might be the boot leaking. Gotta check it out.
Called Miss. Lite and talked to Ronny Smith and he says his experience has
shown -- guess he knows of an instance -- that its the prop. Warp makes its
own troubles. He suggested the pulses from the exhaust of the titan exhaust
system hits the prop and causes the whop whop which is amplified by the warp
drive prop. He suggested I go to a Kiev Prop, about the same length.
States it is quiet and very efficient and less mass to spin. Has had very
good luck with them and are very much quieter and more efficient. He stated
it is NOT the gear box. I would have a lot of crap on the magnet in the
gear box and a chatter if it was loose. Great, another thousand bucks! I
just bought the spinner for my warp. I may have a whole warp system up for
sale soon. havent enough time to get the prop and test it before the
homecoming. That is no place to be testing something new on your plane.
Just wanted to let you all know of the updates on the rum rum problem. I
have what I would call a perfect aircraft (for myself) except for the rum
rum. If I can get that fixed, almost no matter what it cost, I will be a
very happy man. Thanks to all who have helped. Oh, yeah, Bean is the one
who was strongest in the suggestion about the props. We might end up with a
winner. Thanks Again, Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot 912
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| Subject: | Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming |
----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
<customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>
> scott, the kolb homecoming will be sept. 19, 20, 21. this year. see ya,
> donnie.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:56 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
>
>
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Has Kolb changed the date of the Homecoming this year? I thought it was
> always the last weekend in September. Or are you planning on driving
Donnie
> and Travis crazy for an entire week?
> >
> > Scott [who might have to adjust his schedule...]
> >
> >
> > BTW, i think the Travis needs to bring his banjo to the Homecoming
> petition should start soon. :-)
> >
> > --------
> > Scott
> >
> > www.ill-EagleAviation.com
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2264#202264
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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If John W. were still with us, he could quote the regs.
>
> Arty Trost
Arty T:
And you could get your BFR in his Kolbra,in the SE corner of Oregon.
Another week until time for Kolb Homecoming. Hope the huricanes leave us
alone long enough to fly up and back in peace...
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. |
THUMPER, COME TO KOLB AIRCRAFT HOMECOMING SEPT. 19, 20, 21, AND WE CAN HELP
YOU. THANKS DONNIE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thumper" <dlong1957@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
> Anyone within a half days drive of Memphis consider taking me up in a two
seat Kolb? I am just about ready to fly my recently purchased Ultrastar and
need re-familiarized with it. I will pay your fuel bill. I have been
getting some time is a Cub but everything I have read and remember there are
many differences I need briefed on. Just some landings and several hours
should be enough. My time 20 years ago was in MXL 2's and MXL amounted to
over 40 hours plus several hours in a Zenair Zipper (any of those still
around?). Anyone will ing to help.
> Thanks.
>
> --------
> Dennis Long
> Oakland TN
> Kolb Ultrastar Owner
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0273#200273
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_1356_812.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Not very Puzzled |
Mike
Whenever I see your name on a post, I hold my breath to see who
you're dumping on this time.
If you'll read back you'll see that YOU are responsible for posting
"the most objectionable things this list has ever seen" . And in
spades! You're continually telling people they're Stupid, or Really
Stupid, or "this is dumb" , "he doesn't know what he's talking
about", etc. As you said, 'go back and read your posts'. You're
always rude, abrasive, obnoxious, and trying to sound like an
expert, and at times it's obvious that you don't know what you're
talking about.
Sometimes you even reverse your position. Have you ever been a
politician?
And now you're telling Reverend Pike that he's a "pretty poor excuse
for a preacher". Ye Gods, man, just who the HELL do you think you
are? Just because your ego's the size of Gjbraltar doesn't mean you
have to slap down everyone you meet. We're all tired of that
I'd love to see that poll taken -- would make the Presidential ones
look like child's play. I can guess what Terry, Ellery and many
others will have to say --
Please sell your Kolb and go bother other folk
My full name is Russ Kinne, and I'm proud to have you call me a 'bad
apple'
do not archive
PS Tell us sometime why pilots have to fly IFR in So. Florida. A few
thousand of us never got the word --
On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:20 PM, JetPilot wrote:
>
>
> tkrolfe(at)toast.net wrote:
>> Is it me or does anyone else find it strange that the most
>> belligerent
>> and rude person on this list hides behind a pseudonym for his
>> identity.
>> Is there a reason he doesn't want people to know who he is?!!! Most
>> everyone else signs with their real name and is known to the group.
>> While the rest of us might disagree we don't find it necessary to
>> insult
>> the other person by calling them stupid and other names when they
>> don't
>> agree. Of course, as long as some others on the list encourage
>> his bad
>> behavior, he will continue to feed on it.
>>
>> Maybe after he sells his plane, he will evaporate from here!!!!
>>
>> Terry - FireFly #95
>
>
> Terry,
>
> I always sign my posts, sometimes with my full name, sometimes with
> my first name. There has never been any hiding involved on my
> part, anyone that uses this list knows this. I do not appreciate
> you resorting to lies to mislead this group.
>
> The last time things got ugly on this list, you jumped in with both
> feet posting some of the most objectionable things this list has
> ever seen. Almost everyone on this list has been able to move on
> from past ugliness, and let bygones be bygones. Why do you feel
> the need to post very objectionable statements at every
> opportunity ? Go read what you just posted... Having posted what
> you just posted, your statements make you not only a liar, but a
> hypocrite. I am sure everyone on the list will be thrilled to see
> that you are doing your best to turn things ugly again.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
> as you could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3475#203475
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
Ted C:
Daryl, at Warp Drive, has always had a 100% satisfaction guarantee on his
props.
I'd call him and see if he will send you another Warp Drive to try. There
may be some problem with your particular Warp Drive. More mysterious things
have happened when it comes to home built airplanes.
I never had a problem with prop blades and Titan exhaust noises, but the
first thing I noticed when Erich Weaver showed up at MV with his new STE
exhaust system. It made a terrible noise as the exhaust pulses
intermittently smacked the advancing blade on the right silencer exhaust
pulses.
John W got an STE system and hit did the same thing. The system was
designed for the Pulsar, a tractor aircraft. Not for pushers like our
Kolbs.
About the same time my Titan exhaust system had multiple tube failures over
a very short period of time. I had to have something I could rely on. I
got the STE knowing it had the exhaust pulse, prop blade smacking problem.
Yes, it did the same thing. Sounded like it was coming apart. My idea was
to weld some 45 degree elbows on the outlets, but could not find anyone to
do it for me before time to depart on a long flight. Got another idea. Cut
the tips off perpendicular to the ground with the aircraft sitting in the 3
point position. Cranked it up and the smack was gone.
John W trimmed his similar to mine and that fixed his problem.
If, by chance the Titan exhaust is creating your resonance problem, then it
is easy to change the silencer outlets to point in any one of three
different positions.
Yours is the only problem I have heard of with a 912/Warp Drive/Sling Shot
(or any model Kolb) resonance problem.
Ronny Collins had the similar resonance problem with Sling Shot/582 caused
by loose fabric on the top of the right wing. Two stroke turns opposite the
four stroke, so the top of the right wing was getting drummed by the fabric.
It had been rib stitched, stitches pulled loose, and Ronny's SS sounded like
a twin engine airplane with the props out of synch. Popped the fabric back
to the ribs and the resonance went away.
I really don't think you have a prop problem, but a prop drumming problem
associated with fabric and air flow. You can take 10 minutes, tape up the
back windows, go fly, and see if that changes anything.
Check to insure fabric is affixed tightly to all fuselage tubes and wing
ribs and tubes.
Something is causing this problem. Just gonna have to keep looking until
you find and fix it. There are too many Kolbs with 912's, Warps, and Titan
exhaust out there flying without resonance to blame it on an engine, prop,
or airframe design problem.
john h
mkIII
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To keep my tank pickups simple I have only straight dip tubes with no
floppy devices at the bottom.
I cut the ends at an angle. I think they end about 3/8" from the
bottom. I have some unusable fuel
but I wouldn't be trying to get that last few ounces anyway.
BB
On 9, Sep 2008, at 10:13 PM, Jim Baker wrote:
>
> X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%:
>
>> When installing these new tanks in June, I used Tygon for those two
>> 5-inch pieces of flexible fuel line in each tank
>
> snip...
>
>> After only 3 months of sitting in gasoline, that piece of flex
>> line lost
>> its flexibility, and actually expanded a little bit.
>
> Then, on the other side of the experience continuum....
>
> I have fuel grade Tygon F-4040-A fuel and lubricant tubing at the
> bottom of my tanks, in a setup similar to yours, and they've been
> there for 13 years. Still like new with very minor swelling and no
> cracks, abrasions.
>
> There's a huge difference in Tygon formulations. Just happening to
> have some yellow tubing lying around doesn't ensure that it's the
> correct formulation. I'm sure that most folks are convinced that
> Tygon is the Devil's own spawn and I'd have to say that assumption
> would be correct...IF you haven't taken the time to research the
> issue.
>
> Jim Baker
> 580.788.2779
> Elmore City, OK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Not very Puzzled |
It would be interesting, but sad, to know just who has been "warned" by thi
s list's administrator, (who does monitor content), about the content of th
eir posts. I"ll fess up. I have not.
Responding to rude posts will get us no-where, the rude ones only get worse
Use the Delete key & keep the administrator updated in the loop.
I would even consider buying that plane to expedite calmness, but it would
take too much work for me to "sanitize" the top of the wings. : ) (Could`
nt even help being a hypocrite myself) : )
Why this situation has to exist is beyond my small brain's capability to un
derstand.
Do not archive.
Jim Kmet
Cookeville, Tn
MK-3C
See you in London.
----- Original Message -----
From: russ kinne
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Not very Puzzled
Mike
Whenever I see your name on a post, I hold my breath to see who you're du
mping on this time.
If you'll read back you'll see that YOU are responsible for posting "the
most objectionable things this list has ever seen" . And in spades! You'r
e continually telling people they're Stupid, or Really Stupid, or "this is
dumb" , "he doesn't know what he's talking about", etc. As you said, 'go ba
ck and read your posts'. You're always rude, abrasive, obnoxious, and tryin
g to sound like an expert, and at times it's obvious that you don't know w
hat you're talking about.
Sometimes you even reverse your position. Have you ever been a politician
?
And now you're telling Reverend Pike that he's a "pretty poor excuse for
a preacher". Ye Gods, man, just who the HELL do you think you are? Just bec
ause your ego's the size of Gjbraltar doesn't mean you have to slap down ev
eryone you meet. We're all tired of that
I'd love to see that poll taken -- would make the Presidential ones look
like child's play. I can guess what Terry, Ellery and many others will hav
e to say --
Please sell your Kolb and go bother other folk
My full name is Russ Kinne, and I'm proud to have you call me a 'bad appl
e'
do not archive
PS Tell us sometime why pilots have to fly IFR in So. Florida. A few thou
sand of us never got the word --
On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:20 PM, JetPilot wrote:
tkrolfe(at)toast.net wrote:
Is it me or does anyone else find it strange that the most belligeren
t
and rude person on this list hides behind a pseudonym for his identit
y.
Is there a reason he doesn't want people to know who he is?!!! Most
everyone else signs with their real name and is known to the group.
While the rest of us might disagree we don't find it necessary to ins
ult
the other person by calling them stupid and other names when they don
't
agree. Of course, as long as some others on the list encourage his b
ad
behavior, he will continue to feed on it.
Maybe after he sells his plane, he will evaporate from here!!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
Terry,
I always sign my posts, sometimes with my full name, sometimes with my
first name. There has never been any hiding involved on my part, anyone th
at uses this list knows this. I do not appreciate you resorting to lies to
mislead this group.
The last time things got ugly on this list, you jumped in with both fee
t posting some of the most objectionable things this list has ever seen. A
lmost everyone on this list has been able to move on from past ugliness, an
d let bygones be bygones. Why do you feel the need to post very objection
able statements at every opportunity ? Go read what you just posted... Hav
ing posted what you just posted, your statements make you not only a liar,
but a hypocrite. I am sure everyone on the list will be thrilled to see t
hat you are doing your best to turn things ugly again.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as yo
u could have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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This entire thread has nothing to do with Kolbs or aviation. Terry authored this
thread with lies, and with no other intention than to post a personal attack
to stir up trouble and cause bad feelings. Those in the group that support
this kind of behavior, shame on you. It shows what hypocrites and poor excuse
of men you are.
When Reverend Richard jumps into this post to support someone that wrote a post
with no other intention than cause trouble and hate, it puts him right in the
company of Reverend Wright, Extreme Islamics, and other " religious " men that
support this kind of behavior. Richards supporting of discord and hate might
not be on the same grand level as Richards contemporaries, but he is taken
his stand. Lots of bad " Religious " men out there, Richard Pike has shown what
kind of man he is.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Not very Puzzled |
Here we have two entire threads, started by others by myself, that have nothing
to do with Kolbs, and were written with other intention than to post personal
attacks, and cause trouble. If you don't like the tone of this list, and the
way things are going, I suggest you talk with the people that started these threads.
Lets see, you ignore the person that authored these threads, and then you complain
about me for their content. This is shows the behavior a very poor group
men bent on vindictiveness and intimidation of someone they don't like. Supporting
this kind of behavior by your " little clique " and then complaining when
I respond makes you nothing short of a hypocrite. There are a lot of lurkers
out there on the list that have to be unhappy with those that have started
this again and those that support it.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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> To keep my tank pickups simple I have only straight dip tubes with no
> floppy devices at the bottom.
> I cut the ends at an angle. I think they end about 3/8" from the bottom.
> I have some unusable fuel
> but I wouldn't be trying to get that last few ounces anyway.
> BB
Bob B:
I have always pulled fuel from the bottom of tanks, US, FS, and mkIII. I
don't want the engine to quit and still have a gallon of gas in the tanks to
crash with. ;-)
Never did like multiple tanks and dip tubes, but that is strictly personal.
My engine driven pump does a good job of pulling fuel (flown at 14,500 feet
MSL wide open throttle), although I help it along with a Facet electric pump
on takeoff, landing, and during low level flight, which is most of the time.
Would probably never get the standby pump turned on if I lost an engine due
to fuel pump on takeoff, landing, or low level flying.
I figure if I get myself into an impending crash I can turn off the master
switch and alternator switch which will shut down the electrical system, and
isolate it all the way back to the battery. However, don't think I have
ever remembered to do this on any of my crashes to date. Hardly ever hear
of a post crash fire in a Kolb, but there is always that one time. I don't
want to be the victim.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. |
----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
<customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>
> THUMPER, COME TO KOLB AIRCRAFT HOMECOMING SEPT. 19, 20, 21, AND WE CAN
HELP
> YOU. THANKS DONNIE.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thumper" <dlong1957@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:46 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
>
> >
> > Anyone within a half days drive of Memphis consider taking me up in a
two
> seat Kolb? I am just about ready to fly my recently purchased Ultrastar
and
> need re-familiarized with it. I will pay your fuel bill. I have been
> getting some time is a Cub but everything I have read and remember there
are
> many differences I need briefed on. Just some landings and several hours
> should be enough. My time 20 years ago was in MXL 2's and MXL amounted to
> over 40 hours plus several hours in a Zenair Zipper (any of those still
> around?). Anyone will ing to help.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --------
> > Dennis Long
> > Oakland TN
> > Kolb Ultrastar Owner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0273#200273
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Attachments:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_1356_812.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming |
----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
<customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 7:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
>
>
> <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
> >
> > scott, the kolb homecoming will be sept. 19, 20, 21. this year. see ya,
> > donnie.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:56 AM
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
> >
> >
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Has Kolb changed the date of the Homecoming this year? I thought it
was
> > always the last weekend in September. Or are you planning on driving
> Donnie
> > and Travis crazy for an entire week?
> > >
> > > Scott [who might have to adjust his schedule...]
> > >
> > >
> > > BTW, i think the Travis needs to bring his banjo to the Homecoming
> > petition should start soon. :-)
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > www.ill-EagleAviation.com
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2264#202264
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming |
What don't you post the homecoming on Aero Events.com so others can see what
is going on and want to attend also.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: 2008-09-10 10:30
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
> <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
>
>
> <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 7:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
>>
>>
>> <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>> >
>> > scott, the kolb homecoming will be sept. 19, 20, 21. this year. see
>> > ya,
>> > donnie.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
>> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:56 AM
>> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > Has Kolb changed the date of the Homecoming this year? I thought it
> was
>> > always the last weekend in September. Or are you planning on driving
>> Donnie
>> > and Travis crazy for an entire week?
>> > >
>> > > Scott [who might have to adjust his schedule...]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > BTW, i think the Travis needs to bring his banjo to the Homecoming
>> > petition should start soon. :-)
>> > >
>> > > --------
>> > > Scott
>> > >
>> > > www.ill-EagleAviation.com
>> > >
>> > > do not archive
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Read this topic online here:
>> > >
>> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2264#202264
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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I admit to a less than perfect system. My tanks are 20 year old chem
jugs from my old employer.
Probably held coil cleaner or cooling tower additive. Most likely
should get new ones :)
If I were to install a metal tank it would drain from the bottom
too. With a plastic one
I prefer not to weaken the floor with a hole.
I also have forgotten to shut power in emergency landings. Seem to
get too busy looking for
a good spot. Last time the pump was squirting fuel straight out of
the line. May have cleaned
the prop a little.
The thought offered about the exhaust direction possibly creating a
resonance will be considered.
BB
On 10, Sep 2008, at 10:09 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> > To keep my tank pickups simple I have only straight dip tubes
> with no
>> floppy devices at the bottom.
>> I cut the ends at an angle. I think they end about 3/8" from the
>> bottom. I have some unusable fuel
>> but I wouldn't be trying to get that last few ounces anyway.
>> BB
>
>
> Bob B:
>
> I have always pulled fuel from the bottom of tanks, US, FS, and
> mkIII. I don't want the engine to quit and still have a gallon of
> gas in the tanks to crash with. ;-)
>
> Never did like multiple tanks and dip tubes, but that is strictly
> personal.
>
> My engine driven pump does a good job of pulling fuel (flown at
> 14,500 feet MSL wide open throttle), although I help it along with
> a Facet electric pump on takeoff, landing, and during low level
> flight, which is most of the time. Would probably never get the
> standby pump turned on if I lost an engine due to fuel pump on
> takeoff, landing, or low level flying.
>
> I figure if I get myself into an impending crash I can turn off the
> master switch and alternator switch which will shut down the
> electrical system, and isolate it all the way back to the battery.
> However, don't think I have ever remembered to do this on any of my
> crashes to date. Hardly ever hear of a post crash fire in a Kolb,
> but there is always that one time. I don't want to be the victim.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
Hey John,
Did you mean to say perpendicular or parallel to the ground concerning
Titan exhaust.
Mine, used, came perpendicular and I thought of cutting the tips because
of prop noise.
Vic
MIII Exrra 912ul
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| Subject: | Re: Not very Puzzled |
I think he needs to join up with DNC....sounds
like he's a perfect "fit".
----- Original Message -----
From: russ kinne
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Not very Puzzled
Mike
Whenever I see your name on a post, I hold my breath to see who you're
dumping on this time.
If you'll read back you'll see that YOU are responsible for posting
"the most objectionable things this list has ever seen" . And in
spades! You're continually telling people they're Stupid, or Really
Stupid, or "this is dumb" , "he doesn't know what he's talking about",
etc. As you said, 'go back and read your posts'. You're always rude,
abrasive, obnoxious, and trying to sound like an expert, and at times
it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about.
Sometimes you even reverse your position. Have you ever been a
politician?
And now you're telling Reverend Pike that he's a "pretty poor excuse
for a preacher". Ye Gods, man, just who the HELL do you think you are?
Just because your ego's the size of Gjbraltar doesn't mean you have to
slap down everyone you meet. We're all tired of that
I'd love to see that poll taken -- would make the Presidential ones
look like child's play. I can guess what Terry, Ellery and many others
will have to say --
Please sell your Kolb and go bother other folk
My full name is Russ Kinne, and I'm proud to have you call me a 'bad
apple'
do not archive
PS Tell us sometime why pilots have to fly IFR in So. Florida. A few
thousand of us never got the word --
On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:20 PM, JetPilot wrote:
tkrolfe(at)toast.net wrote:
Is it me or does anyone else find it strange that the most
belligerent
and rude person on this list hides behind a pseudonym for his
identity.
Is there a reason he doesn't want people to know who he is?!!!
Most
everyone else signs with their real name and is known to the
group.
While the rest of us might disagree we don't find it necessary to
insult
the other person by calling them stupid and other names when they
don't
agree. Of course, as long as some others on the list encourage
his bad
behavior, he will continue to feed on it.
Maybe after he sells his plane, he will evaporate from here!!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
Terry,
I always sign my posts, sometimes with my full name, sometimes with
my first name. There has never been any hiding involved on my part,
anyone that uses this list knows this. I do not appreciate you
resorting to lies to mislead this group.
The last time things got ugly on this list, you jumped in with both
feet posting some of the most objectionable things this list has ever
seen. Almost everyone on this list has been able to move on from past
ugliness, and let bygones be bygones. Why do you feel the need to post
very objectionable statements at every opportunity ? Go read what you
just posted... Having posted what you just posted, your statements make
you not only a liar, but a hypocrite. I am sure everyone on the list
will be thrilled to see that you are doing your best to turn things ugly
again.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as
you could have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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Bob B:
I haven't used a plastic jug tank since 1990. Back then the wall thickness
of the jugs seemed to be quite a bit thicker than the jugs that are being
utilized today.
Popular in the UL world was a push in "elbow" pulling fuel out the bottom of
the tank. Used a large neoprene grommet. These worked well for me. Never
experienced any problems with them.
I am still scratching my head trying to figure why folks use plastic fuel
lines, when "good ole" black neoprene is readily available, cheap, durable,
and reliable. Only reason anyone has come up with is to see the bubbles in
the line. I think one of our fuel experts on the Kolb List some time back
offered that gasoline "gases". When placed in a vacuum, i.e., pulling fuel
uphill, it pulls gas out of the fuel that looks just like air bubbles. Back
in the good ole days when I was running UL fuel line like everyone else, my
fuel lines were always pulling bubbles. Used to drive me crazy. Pulling
air through the fuel system, yet no fuel was leaking out when the engine was
shut down or running. Now...I don't see it and am not bothered with it.
I have, during preflight inspections of my US and FS, pulled on a fuel or
pulse line and have it fail. Never had that problem with black neoprene.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Poor posting etiquette |
I believe 2 words explain this phenomenon,
Mental Illness
I vote with Ellery
Vic in Maine
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: resonance 912 |
Vic:
A Titan exhaust can be tried with the outlets pointed left, right, or strai
ght up.
I never had a noise problem with the Titan systems, only the STE.
john h
mkIII
Hey John,
Did you mean to say perpendicular or parallel to the ground concerning Ti
tan exhaust.
Mine, used, came perpendicular and I thought of cutting the tips because
of prop noise.
Vic
MIII Exrra 912ul
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| Subject: | The Suggested Jetpilot Poll |
Ok, lets have a poll.
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The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine...And why shouldn't it be?-
--It is the same the angels breathe.
Mark Twain,
Roughing it' 1886
Mike
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If you run a fuel pump below the level of the fuel and pressure feed it up to the
engine, you will not have bubbles to worry about. It is possible to have
an engine failure from pulling fuel up to much of a distance, and it will most
likely happen during full power = Takeoff. The powerful fuel pump does a pretty
good job of pulling fuel uphill, but the gas can vapor lock under certain
conditions which would lead to engine failure.
It is good practice to run an electric pump on takeoff and landing to pressure
feed your engine driven pump. We had someone post that so paranoid about fire,
he says not to run an electric pump on takeoff which is wrong, he is more likely
to induce an engine failure and crash by doing this. A fire after a crash
can happen with or without an electric fuel pump running... It is foolish
to be so paranoid about remote possibility of a fuel pump causing a fire, that
you create a much greater hazard of an engine failure. The best way to avoid
a fire is to keep your engine running on takeoff and avoid a crash altogether.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: The Suggested Jetpilot Poll |
Your poll is of poor taste, and is nothing more than a personal attack and an attempt
to cause trouble and discord on this list. As a matter of fact, the last
three threads have been nothing but objectionable attacks designed to cause
trouble on the list.
I see a lot of gang type mentality here, a few here are posting nothing but objectionable
and personal attacks because they are emboldened by their friends.
This is type of behavior usually practiced by uneducated kids on the street.
That says a lot about the quality of the so called " Men " participating in
this conduct.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Poor posting etiquette |
Look at who authored the three post that were of " Poor Etiquette ". Not one of
them were started by me. Yes, they were of very poor etiquette, you should
complain to the people that wrote them.
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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<< Dennis, what kind of Tygon was it? Their yellow "Fuel and Lubricant
Tubing"? Or something else? -Dana >>
Dana - No, it was not the yellow-colored Tygon F4040 that Thom Riddle
describes.
Just some (mostly) clear "Tygon" that I ordered from Aircraft Spruce a
few years ago - I don't recall the exact description, besides that it
was advertised as fuel line.
Dennis Kirby
New Mexico
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| Subject: | Re: Fusing the Ignition System |
<< Dennis and others,
Don't confuse ignition system with electrical system. The Rotax 912
"ignition system" is for the most part independent of the "electrical
system". Rotax does NOT recommend a fuse in the ignition system. They
do
recommend one in the electrical system. The fuse in the electrical
system
can blow and the engine will continue to run well. Steven Green >>
Steven -
Thanks for the clarification!
That answers my question then, about why the 30-amp fuse (Rotax) versus
the 3-amp fuse on the HKS ignition system.
Dennis Kirby
Mk-3C, Cedar Crest, NM
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russ kinne wrote: << Dennis -- only way to fly safe is to check
EVERYTHING you can, whether you think it needs checking or not. Sounds
as tho your attention to detail avoided an in- flight engine-out. Good
man , nice going >>
Thanks, Russ!
After my preflight blunder of last summer (where I did not tighten my
oil cap and it went thru the prop, and I chose to execute a
precautionary landing on a "dry" lakebed - that wasn't exactly dry - and
I ended up having to haul my aircraft from the muck with a helicopter),
I guess I'm paying a little closer attention to the details of my
preflight check!
Dennis K.
Do not archive
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Hi All,
I believe the term you're searching for is biennial (every other
year). Biannual is twice a year. (Looked it up in the Funk & Wagnall's just
to be sure).
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
> cedavis wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem I have is that the local FBO sold the Champ, and I'll need a
>> bi-annual soon. Technically, you could take the flight test "ground
>> observed" in a single place ELSA (I do not know of anyone who did). Does
>> any one know if the flight portion of the bi-annual can be done in a
>> single place?
>>
>> Chuck Davis
>> Firefly N7057K
>>
>
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3476#203476
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb time needed W Tennessee. |
----- Original Message -----
From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
<customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KOLB AIRCRAFT" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
>
>
> <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
> >
> > THUMPER, COME TO KOLB AIRCRAFT HOMECOMING SEPT. 19, 20, 21, AND WE CAN
> HELP
> > YOU. THANKS DONNIE.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thumper" <dlong1957@yahoo.com>
> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:46 PM
> > Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb time needed W Tennessee.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Anyone within a half days drive of Memphis consider taking me up in a
> two
> > seat Kolb? I am just about ready to fly my recently purchased Ultrastar
> and
> > need re-familiarized with it. I will pay your fuel bill. I have been
> > getting some time is a Cub but everything I have read and remember there
> are
> > many differences I need briefed on. Just some landings and several
hours
> > should be enough. My time 20 years ago was in MXL 2's and MXL amounted
to
> > over 40 hours plus several hours in a Zenair Zipper (any of those still
> > around?). Anyone will ing to help.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Dennis Long
> > > Oakland TN
> > > Kolb Ultrastar Owner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0273#200273
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Attachments:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_1356_812.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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A key to understanding which airplanes/sets and in which airspace a Sport Pilot can legally fly in, is the required endorsements list, which is in the FAA Advisory Circular AC 61.65e which is found on-line in .pdf format at http://tinyurl.com/6ha28m .
After downloading this file, go to the 25th page in this document where Appendix
1. begins. The second section (12-21) of this appendix lists the Endorsements
a Student Pilot Seeking Sport Pilot Certificate must have for various privileges.
The third section (22-29) lists the Endorsements a Sport Pilot must have
to gain legal flying access to aircraft with Vh faster than 87knots, operations
to/from towered controlled airports and in controlled airspace, etc. Notice
that this appendix listing also references the specific FARs.
This AC 61-65e plus the LSA SETS referenced before in this thread pretty much spells
out the requirements, though there a few things that are still open to interpretation.
For example: If a Sport Pilot is trained in and passes his check
ride in an LSA with faster than 87knots Vh (i.e. gets the >87kts endorsement),
can s/he fly a slower than 87knot aircraft of the same type? My interpretation,
which agrees with the interpretation of the Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE)
who gave me my CFI-SP check ride, is that the faster than 87knot endorsement
qualifies a Sport Pilot to fly the slower ones of the same type but not vice
versa.
I hope this helps a bit.
--------
Thom Riddle
CFI-SP
Power Plant Mechanic
N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
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Scratch any cynic, he said, and youll find a disappointed idealist.
George Carlin
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(subject line changed)
yer a brave man Ed. heh heh
you are elected to do our typo management.
A former flying bud called it the "bi-enema"
a contest to enter the classics:
breaks/brakes
BB
On 10, Sep 2008, at 1:13 PM, Ed Chmielewski wrote:
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I believe the term you're searching for is biennial (every
> other year). Biannual is twice a year. (Looked it up in the Funk &
> Wagnall's just to be sure).
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
>> cedavis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem I have is that the local FBO sold the Champ, and I'll
>>> need a bi-annual soon. Technically, you could take the flight
>>> test "ground observed" in a single place ELSA (I do not know of
>>> anyone who did). Does any one know if the flight portion of the
>>> bi-annual can be done in a single place?
>>>
>>> Chuck Davis
>>> Firefly N7057K
>>>
>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3476#203476
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Hey Richard,
Welcome back!
"All that is needed for the forces of evil to succeed is for enough
good men to remain silent. "
Please do not do that again. :-)
With you here again, there is still hope for a better Kolb list.
Gene
On Sep 9, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
> Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief
> from this problem of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the
> list and find something else to do.
>
> Guess how I know this?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 3495#203495
>
>
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I've been on the Kolb list as long as it's been in existence. There is no reason
to attack anyone or make remarks that hurt people. The purpose of the list is
to promote the sport of building and flying Kolb ultralight and Light Sport
Aircraft. I enjoy reading comments, but I sure don't like to read a lot of bickering
and political agendas. Can't we all just get along?
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
21 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
0 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: FlyChallenger: Re: Dead Stick Takeoff |
From: Lowflier
Sent: 2008-09-10 13:24
Subject: Fw: FlyChallenger: Re: Dead Stick Takeoff
--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Red Stokes <lava472003@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Red Stokes <lava472003@yahoo.com>
Subject: FlyChallenger: Re: Dead Stick Takeoff
To: FlyChallenger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 12:56 PM
--- This is good. My buddy Raymond Hanover sent me the link last
week. I don't think I would have the guts to try it.
Red
In FlyChallenger@ yahoogroups. com, "J.D. Stewart" <jstewart@..
.> wrote:
>
> I never even thought about something like this. Of course,
it's
impossible
> here in flat Nebraska...
>
> http://www.wingscha nnel.com/ index.php? &video_id= 754
>
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Come on now! Was it necessary to start this thread? Was it necessary to respond
to it? [Rolling Eyes]
I have a solution for you guys. Ya'll need to fly more and spend less time sitting
around being bored and getting on the list starting these unnecessary conflicts.
I don't have a problem with anyone on the list. I feel all of you have valuable
information to share. I am new to Light sport aircraft and I value the input
from the list and I value differences in opinions between members.
The best way to smooth over this Hatfield and McCoy situation is to start ignoring
the things said that get to you.
Now play nice! :D
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| Subject: | Here we go again |
Ladies and Gentleman, May I offer a suggestion based on experience? There
will always be someone on a forum who acts like the kid who drops his pants
in the supermarket check out line to try and embarrass his mom into buying
him the candy bar he's denied. Attention is what the kid wants and by acting
like a little s*** he gets it. A good spanking would help, too, but that's
not PC anymore. So my suggestion is just ignore those who have no manners
and insult people, start the name calling, etc. Eventually, when they don't
get the attention they want they will go away to find someplace else to
bother people.It seems that what is called the tyranny of the question has
become the tyranny of the email. Once posted it requires a response. Well it
doesn't. Just as the rude question doesn't deserve a response, the rude
email doesn't either.
I have the advantage of using Gmail and it handles this quite nicely. When I
open my inbox all the messages are listed by subject and sender. Next to
each message is also a box. All I have to do is check the box and hit
delete. Poof, they're gone. No one is offended and I don't have to subject
myself to some rude jerk. I'm sure other email services offer options like
this, but if yours doesn't please feel free to contact me off list and I'll
be happy to send you an invitation to Gmail.
Rick
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Bill,
I'm not sure who is responsible for it, but it appears only on your
messages.
It is one of those ingenious graphic illusions that when you stare at
it as though you were focusing on something behind the page, all of a
sudden it appears as a three dimensional image. Neat trick.
I assumed it was your ingenious creation. It took me quite awhile
till I saw what it actually is.
Gene
do not archive
On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:01 PM, william sullivan wrote:
> Russ- I get the same thing. I've seen it before, but nobody ever
> commented on it. I dunno.
>
> do not archive
> Bill Sullivan
>
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Preacher and others:
I find the best thing to do is ignore the bastards, both sides, and drive o
n. They ain't gonna run me off with a key board and monitor.
If they want to run me off, they'll have to do it in person. You know, eye
ball to eyeball. The ones that woof the loudest on the Kolb List are usual
ly the ones that are the meekest when you meet them in person.
Now.......let's get back to building and flying Kolbs. Now is one of the b
est times of the year to fly. The air will soon start cooling off and clea
n up a bit. Autumn colors are right around the corner. The Kolb Homecomin
g is next week. Get your sleeping bag and air mattress loaded in the Kolb
and head for Labhart Field.
This Kolb List is ok if you ain't got nuthin' else. But the real Kolb expe
rience is to load up the airplane, or yourself, and head out to the next Ko
lb Homecoming, MV, John Bickham's Nauga Flyin. Meet some of us old and you
ng farts that fly these things. Share some experiences eyeball to eyeball.
Get to "really" know each other. That, to me, is what it is all about.
I have met some of the finest folks in the world through my Kolbs. They ar
e, for the most part, life long friends. Friends I enjoy visiting with, wh
ether it is airplane, dirt bike, ATV, 5th wheeling, or whatever.
You guys need to knock this crap off. Try to say something "nice" to each
other once in a while. Don't look for stuff to pick apart. And.........do
n't be telling me what a dumb ass I am, or how stupid I am, for what I am d
oing. I bet I have been doing it a hell of a lot longer than a lot of you
all. ;-)
For the most part, I usually tell folks what and how I do it. I leave it u
p to you to decide what you want to do. What you do and how you do it is y
our business.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief from thi
s problem of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the list and find so
mething else to do.
Guess how I know this?
Richard Pike
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I agree with jhauck...... and That's my final answer !!
do not archive
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- Thank you, John.- Well said.--I learned long ago that if there wa
s a difference of mechanical opinion to just remember the other person's po
int and keep it in the back of my head, even if I was certain he was wrong.
- He might have run into the exception to the rule- or I might have.
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do not archive
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A lot of the degradation of the "blue fuel line" has to do with the sun.
If you'll notice - the bottom fuel line (maybe coming out
of your tank) inside the fuselage, will last a lot longer
than the fuel line going to your carbs that are exposed to direct sunlight
all the time.
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Thom Riddle wrote:
>
>
>
>
> This AC 61-65e plus the LSA SETS referenced before in this thread pretty much
spells out the requirements, though there a few things that are still open to
interpretation. For example: If a Sport Pilot is trained in and passes his check
ride in an LSA with faster than 87knots Vh (i.e. gets the >87kts endorsement),
can s/he fly a slower than 87knot aircraft of the same type? My interpretation,
which agrees with the interpretation of the Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE)
who gave me my CFI-SP check ride, is that the faster than 87knot endorsement
qualifies a Sport Pilot to fly the slower ones of the same type but not vice
versa.
>
>
Thom:
Can't say with absolute certainty, but I believe I remember right that this interpretation
differs from what I was given by the DPE who gave me my SP check ride.
Sec 61.323 (and 61.319) seem pretty clear that you need an endorsement for any
set that you want to operate in, no matter what other(s) you may have.
Could be wrong..... wouldn't be the first time.
My $.02
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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What kind of man I am - Hmmm. All I did was check the list - like I do from time
to time to see if there is anything "airplaney" on it that is interesting -
and happened to read this thread. I don't know who's post I am supposed to be
supporting, don't know any of the details, don't care.
All I did was say what was true. It was true nine months ago, still true now. If
bad manners and rudeness are intolerable, then the list isn't an option.
Guess I made a good choice when I left.
PS to Mike: What made you think I was talking about you?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: 2008 Kolb Homecoming |
Looks like I will miss the homecoming for the 8th straight year. It never works
out as Sep 25th is my wife's birthday AND out anniversary. Now, being a week
earlier, work will get me.
Hope to see you all somewhere soon.
Regards,
Kip
FS II
PS...Is the Firestar really gone for good :(
--------
Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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Mr Pike,
I don't think anyone should leave the list, the advantages to being here outweigh
whatever we might not like about it. I would encourage you decide to come
back and be active here.
Now that things have cooled down a little bit, here is what I had a problem with.
Terry started this thread that had nothing to do with Kolbs, and was nothing
more than a personal attack on myself. Your response was
" Terry, it's like this: the only way you will ever get any relief from this problem
of bad manners and rudeness is to give up on the list and find something
else to do. "
You chose to support terry and imply that he could get relief from this type of
behavior when HE IS THE ONE THAT INITIATED THE BAD MANNERS AND RUDENESS. The
more honest and appropriate advice would have been to tell him not to initiate
this type of behavior if he did not like it. Your supporting Terrys abusive
post and uncalled for behavior was wrong.
As a preacher, you of all people should not be supporting the person that initiates
this type of uncalled for and inappropriate behavior. Instead, you support
the attacker... You as a preacher should know better than anyone the difference
between right and wrong. Terrys starting this ugly mess again with this
thread was wrong. You supporting him doing it was wrong.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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Mike B:
Recommend you contact individuals you are having problems with back copy.
This petty crap has nothing to do with Kolb building or flying.
I, for one, am not interested.
I speak for myself, but probably echo the sentiments of many others on this
List that don't seem to have the same personal problems you are having.
Enough is enough.
john h
mkIII - Getting older every minute. Ain't got time to waste on mickey mouse
BS.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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John H,
With all due respect, I agree with you when you say Enough is Enough. I put all
this behind me the last time around months ago. You know very well that I have
kept my posts clean and non abusive recently.
If you have a problem with what is going on the list, you need to be talking the
individual that instigated this whole mess and wrote this abusive " Non Kolb
" thread, not me.
At last count, there are 4 separate threads that were started here on this list
that are nothing but rude and nasty attacks, and have nothing to do with Kolbs,
NONE of them were started by me. The majority of rude and inappropriate posts
on this list written since yesterday were not written by myself. Double
standards do not work, chastising me in public for responding to attacks while
not saying a word about the instigators will NEVER achieve peace on this list.
This continual mentality of everyone telling me to be quiet and take abuse form
other members of this group only encourages repeats of what has been happening
here in the past. If you want a clean list, then the same standards must be
applied to everyone. It is very clear, that Terry, Michael Sharp, and others
feel they have the blessing of the group anytime they want to write personal
attacks. Given the response from this episode, it is clear they will surely
feel they have the support to do this again and again.
Want a clean list, its time to tell your friends to clean up their act, not just
me. You know as well as anyone that double standards will never result in peace
here. The SAME rules and standards of conduct must apply to everyone.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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Mike B:
Sorry about that.
I changed my original post to reflect the following. It is addressed to
everyone that is an active participant of this feud.
To qualify myself, I am not chastising you or anyone else. Simply one
member of this List asking that you all take this crap back copy where it
belongs, which is not on the List.
Thanks for your cooperation,
john h
mkIII - I'm still getting older every minute, and I still do not have time
to waste on this micky mouse BS.
> Mike B and other active participants in this feud:
>
> Recommend you all go back copy with your problems.
>
> This petty crap has nothing to do with Kolb building or flying.
>
> I, for one, am not interested.
>
> I speak for myself, but probably echo the sentiments of many others on
> this List that don't seem to have the same personal problems you all are
> having.
>
> Enough is enough.
>
> john h
> mkIII - Getting older every minute. Ain't got time to waste on mickey
> mouse BS.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:Homecoming |
In a message dated 9/10/2008 7:44:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
Another week until time for Kolb Homecoming. Hope the huricanes leave us
alone long enough to fly up and back in peace...
john h
mkIII
I just got back from the hanger where I folded the firefly
and secured her in the enclosed trailer which is inside the hanger! Hope
she will be ok! Ike is supposed to be here by Fri. Hope I can get things to
a point that I can make the Homecoming ! I ve got my tickets.
Ed (in Houston)
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