---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/19/08: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:51 AM - Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (Ralph B) 2. 08:37 AM - Re: 447 tuning tips (JetPilot) 3. 10:55 AM - Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (Thom Riddle) 4. 02:29 PM - Re: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (Dana Hague) 5. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (robert bean) 6. 03:05 PM - Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (Thom Riddle) 7. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (Dana Hague) 8. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (possums) 9. 06:22 PM - Re: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 (robert bean) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:21 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 From: "Ralph B" I had my Flight Review last Wednesday in my Kolbra. The CFI knew very little about LSA's and Sport Pilot. I acted as PIC while he gave me instructions from the back seat. Not all CFI's are willing to take a ride in a light experimental aircraft. He had a lot of questions about the aircraft and the 912 engine. Normally the ground portion takes an hour and the flight an hour. He took 3.5 hours because he had questions and I let him fly the plane to get familiar with it. He pulled the power while I glided to a safe landing. I asked him if other GA pilots were able to make it to the field and land. He told me many needed a second try as they don't normally pull the power back while in the pattern. He was very thorough, more than my checkride two years ago. There is something to be said for all that ultralight experience. All went well and he signed my logbook. I'm good to go for another two years. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 21 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 0 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5058#205058 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:25 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 447 tuning tips From: "JetPilot" I read your quotes from the Rotax manual, but I do not see where it says anything about that your prop MUST turn the full 6800 RPM. I think you are misinterpreting what you are reading. Many props on the 447 do not turn 6800 RPM, that is quite normal. There is no requirement to turn the full 6800 RPM, and the temperatures that John was quoting were pretty good. The best indicator, which is the color of the plugs, is fine, I would not go chasing a problem that does not exist. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5064#205064 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:52 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 From: "Thom Riddle" A proficiency check is a testing process and that is what the FAA is proposing to change in the new NPRM. That is not a Biennial Flight Review. By definition, a Biennial Flight Review is INSTRUCTION. The FARS specify a minimum of one hour of ground instruction and one hour of flight instruction to qualify as a BFR. There is no pass/fail and ANY CFI can provide this service. -------- Thom Riddle CFI-SP Power Plant Mechanic N221FA Allegro 2000 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- Scratch any cynic, he said, and youll find a disappointed idealist. George Carlin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5101#205101 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:13 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 At 01:55 PM 9/19/2008, Thom Riddle wrote: >By definition, a Biennial Flight Review is INSTRUCTION. The FARS specify a >minimum of one hour of ground instruction and one hour of flight >instruction to qualify as a BFR. There is no pass/fail... Well, yes and no. If you "fail" your logbook shows only dual instruction, not a completed BFR. -Dana -- This is an Uzi. This is an Uzi on full auto. Any questions? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:33 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 You mean if I smash that rattley old C-150 into oblivion I won't get my BFR signed off? Rats! BTW did anyone notice the C-162 test plane spiraled in? Pilot bailed out successfully. Maybe it shouldn't be held in a spin for more than one turn. I don't know about the rest of youze guyz but after one turn I'm usually satisfied. BB On 19, Sep 2008, at 5:25 PM, Dana Hague wrote: > > At 01:55 PM 9/19/2008, Thom Riddle wrote: >> By definition, a Biennial Flight Review is INSTRUCTION. The FARS >> specify a minimum of one hour of ground instruction and one hour >> of flight instruction to qualify as a BFR. There is no pass/fail... > > Well, yes and no. If you "fail" your logbook shows only dual > instruction, not a completed BFR. > > -Dana > > -- > This is an Uzi. This is an Uzi on full auto. Any questions? > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:31 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 From: "Thom Riddle" Dana, In the spirit of friendly hair-splitting.... I say yes and no, to your yes and no. Yes, if the CFI is not satisfied with the pilot's performance after the MINIMUM one hour of ground and one hour of dual, s/he can state this and ask the pilot to continue with the instruction past these minimums or schedule another instructional session. The CFI is not required to endorse the pilot's logbook until he is satisfied, but he cannot stop the pilot from continuing to fly as long as his/her old BFR is still current. No, in the sense that an examiner in a proficiency test of check-ride (not a BFR) can "fail" the pilot and must send paperwork to the FAA stating this. Also, there are specific procedures for scheduling a re-take of a proficiency test or check-ride. Neither of these are required for a BFR. -------- Thom Riddle CFI-SP Power Plant Mechanic N1208P RANS S6S, Tailwheel, 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- Scratch any cynic, he said, and youll find a disappointed idealist. George Carlin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5154#205154 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:53 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 At 05:48 PM 9/19/2008, robert bean wrote: >BTW did anyone notice the C-162 test plane spiraled in? Pilot bailed >out successfully. >Maybe it shouldn't be held in a spin for more than one turn. >I don't know about the rest of youze guyz but after one turn I'm >usually satisfied. I always liked to do spins. Did 20 turns in a 150 once, then was hugely amused to read in Flying magazine the very next day that "what it does after 6 turns is unknown...". Could be they were doing aft C.G. tests in the 162. That could make a spin "unrecoverable". -Dana -- Everyone who lives dies; yet not everyone who dies, has lived. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:17 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 At 06:33 PM 9/19/2008, you wrote: > >At 05:48 PM 9/19/2008, robert bean wrote: > >>BTW did anyone notice the C-162 test plane spiraled in? Pilot bailed >>out successfully. > >I always liked to do spins. Did 20 turns in a 150 once, then was >hugely amused to read in Flying magazine the very next day that >"what it does after 6 turns is unknown...". > >Could be they were doing aft C.G. tests in the 162. That could make >a spin "unrecoverable". > >-Dana The C-162 Skycatcher, made in China and still cost $110,000 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:46 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: LSA's and FAR 61.319 maybe they'll rename it the turf snatcher On 19, Sep 2008, at 8:53 PM, possums wrote: > > At 06:33 PM 9/19/2008, you wrote: >> >> At 05:48 PM 9/19/2008, robert bean wrote: >> >>> BTW did anyone notice the C-162 test plane spiraled in? Pilot >>> bailed >>> out successfully. >> >> I always liked to do spins. Did 20 turns in a 150 once, then was >> hugely amused to read in Flying magazine the very next day that >> "what it does after 6 turns is unknown...". >> >> Could be they were doing aft C.G. tests in the 162. That could >> make a spin "unrecoverable". >> >> -Dana > > The C-162 Skycatcher, made in China and still cost $110,000 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.