---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/20/08: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:32 PM - MKIII crash today (Dana Hague) 2. 05:34 PM - Re: MKIII crash today (robert bean) 3. 06:13 PM - Kolb List: Mark III crash today (william sullivan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:52 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Kolb-List: MKIII crash today It's my sad duty to report a Kolb MKIII crash today in Connecticut. Engine failure on takeoff, perhaps 200-300' up, not clear whether the pilot was attempting to return to the airport or stalled due to the pitch-up and was trying to recover. Looked like he had turned about 45 from the runway centerline and went into the trees on about a 45 down line. Pilot (Bob Berrie whom some of you may know) and passenger are in stable condition, many broken bones and much pain but apparently not life threatening. They, another pilot on a GT400, and I were heading together to a fly-in in Rhode Island, I was still taxiing out and behind the hangars so I didn't see it happen. Looking at the wreckage, it's a miracle either of them survived. Our prayers are with them tonight. http://www.wfsb.com/news/17519674/detail.html#- or http://tinyurl.com/44s427 Surprisingly, the newscritters got it mostly right, except for the pilot's name and calling it an "ultralight". -Dana -- Lie ? Me ? Never! No, no, no, the truth is far too much fun! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:23 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MKIII crash today That puts a damper on a day's outing. I hope their injuries are of the mendable variety. Departure failures are the worst. I don't have a lot of regard for the so-called departure stall routines used in testing procedures, mostly because you would rarely ever be in that extreme a position in real life. That struggle at full throttle in the old C-150 until it flips its ass over teakettle is bogus. Best wishes to your friends. BB On 20, Sep 2008, at 7:28 PM, Dana Hague wrote: > > It's my sad duty to report a Kolb MKIII crash today in > Connecticut. Engine failure on takeoff, perhaps 200-300' up, not > clear whether the pilot was attempting to return to the airport or > stalled due to the pitch-up and was trying to recover. Looked like > he had turned about 45 from the runway centerline and went into > the trees on about a 45 down line. Pilot (Bob Berrie whom some of > you may know) and passenger are in stable condition, many broken > bones and much pain but apparently not life threatening. They, > another pilot on a GT400, and I were heading together to a fly-in > in Rhode Island, I was still taxiing out and behind the hangars so > I didn't see it happen. Looking at the wreckage, it's a miracle > either of them survived. Our prayers are with them tonight. > > http://www.wfsb.com/news/17519674/detail.html#- or http:// > tinyurl.com/44s427 > > Surprisingly, the newscritters got it mostly right, except for the > pilot's name and calling it an "ultralight". > > -Dana > -- > Lie ? Me ? Never! No, no, no, the truth is far too much fun! > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:46 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb List: Mark III crash today -- Dana- Thanks for the news.- Good luck to your friends, and our pra yers are with them. - do not archive - ------------------------- ----------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.