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1. 04:07 AM - Re: Redrive VW powered MKIIIC Video (Thom Riddle)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: CT MKIII crash (olendorf)
3. 07:31 AM - Quiet Kolb (robcannon)
4. 07:51 AM - Re: CT MKIII crash (grantr)
5. 08:21 AM - Gascolator chat (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
6. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: CT MKIII crash (pj.ladd)
7. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: HKs Twinstar with vg's (pj.ladd)
8. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: Airport Attitudes (pj.ladd)
9. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: CT MKIII crash (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
10. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: CT MKIII crash (pj.ladd)
11. 01:17 PM - Re: Re: Airport Attitudes (pj.ladd)
12. 01:38 PM - Re: LSA (Was Airport Attitudes) (pj.ladd)
13. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: CT MKIII crash ()
14. 02:43 PM - Re: Quiet Kolb (JetPilot)
15. 02:47 PM - Re: Redrive VW powered MKIIIC Video (JetPilot)
16. 02:52 PM - Gerry Olenik of Green Sky Aviation (robcannon)
17. 03:14 PM - Re: CT MKIII crash (Richard Pike)
18. 04:02 PM - Re: LSA (Was Airport Attitudes) (Dana Hague)
19. 04:02 PM - Re: Re: Airport Attitudes (Dana Hague)
20. 05:25 PM - Re: Gerry Olenik of Green Sky Aviation (lucien)
21. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: CT MKIII crash (Larry Cottrell)
22. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: CT MKIII crash (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Redrive VW powered MKIIIC Video |
Thanks, George. Keying in the tags you mentioned brought up the video
directly. Nice stuff and the vibes are not bad.
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
Good to know it works. I have a 1 foot piece of tubing coming off of a T that
is used to drain the tank also. I've never seen a single drop of water in any
samples I've taken from that. I only test it every other month or so. But I
always fill the float bowl and check it before each flight. Never found any water
in that either.
I am now checking it after each flight also since I'm now emptying the bowl back
into the tank so I don't have stale fuel in there. I do this if I'm not going
to be flying for a week or more. The 10% ethanol fuel left over for 2 weeks
in the bowl won't start the engine. It goes bad very quickly compared to regular
gas which I used to let go for weeks sometimes.
Funny story. I was at the field a few years ago and one of the guys come to fly
his Challenger. He took off and came back within 5 minutes. He said his engine
was running rough. He suspected that the fuel he just put in may have had
water in it. He said "I left it out last night and it rained. I didn't have the
spout covered". Which of course he knew as he was filling the tank.
That same guy was following me to another airport 10 miles away. His instructor
said to him "Follow Scott, he'll show you how to get there". So after 8 miles
or so I get a call on the radio from the guy, "I'm right behind you and getting
closer. What do I do?" I said, "TURN". A third guy in the group said "He's
RIGHT behind you". He was following me all right. I went full throttle all
the way through the pattern and landed as far down the runway as I could.
Last time I flew with him.
lcottrell wrote:
>
> I know it is not as effective as a real live gascolator, but it works for me,
and that is what counts.
>
> As long as I don't get lazy and fail to do a good fuel sample each time I fly
and when I refuel, I don't think I will ever have another fuel problem cause
an engine out.
>
> [b]
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Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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As some of you may know, I installed a hks ,3:47, four blade powerfin, in my Twinstar
with the attempt to make a plane that my noise sensitive runway owner would
accept. I flew it out of my home strip for the first time last night and
got the double thumbs up from the runway owner and closest neighbor!!! It has
enough power that next flight I will do a reduced power climb and be even quieter!
The people watching my take off said it was quieter than the 85 hp Fleet
Canuck that flys regularly out of here (my goal was to be as quit as him)
I anticipated poor performance in either climb or cruise, and although I realize
performance is somewhat subjective, I am very happy with both. It climbs at
close to 1000 ' per min. and will accelerate in level flight much faster than
I care to go (80mph).
Conclusion: I believe the hks is ideally suited for replacing the 503 or 582,
and I now feel it would have enough power for a light Mark 3, as my heavy twinstar
has abundant power, even with the lower performance of the 4 blade prop.
Rob Cannon ps. if anyone has any questions on the hks/kolb install I would
be happy to help.
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
It sounds like about anything will do the job so I think I am going with something
like this:
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg13.html
Simple cheap and effective! I could probably make a better one out of some pvc
or galvanized pipe from lowes. using a t fitting to rune 2 fuel barbs and a pipe
on the bottom of the T as the sump for the water.
Anyone know how gasoline affects pvc?
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<< Make your pickup/finger strainer a couple inches above the lowest
point of the tank, and the sump drain at the lowest point. Instant
gascolator. Richard Pike >>
Hey, Old Poops - Nice to have you back! I've missed your contributions
to our List.
Dennis Kirby
New Mexico
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
would my plane even benefit from having one?>>
Nah!!. Stop worrying. Always leave your fuel tanks topped up and there is
no room for condensation to form. Use a water filtering funnel when you
refuel, if you are worried about buying fuel with water in it. Empty you
carb. chamber occasionally, evry year or so, and you will be right.
You can get too hung up on all the little things that can go wrong until you
have redundancy built in all over the place. Where are you going to stop?.
All this fuss a few weeks ago about fitting an extra fuel pump. What for?
Just look at the figurs. How many planes have had trouible with pump
failure? There are all sorts of stories about someone who knew someone who
had a failure but little first hand reporting.
Of course it DOES happen but if it was likely to happen regularly a) the
manufacturer would fit two pumps and b) the insurance company would load
your premium if you only had one.
Cool it and go with the flow, man
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: HKs Twinstar with vg's |
If it was unsafe, I would surely run right out and buy a set of VG's
for her.>>
Hi John,
of course you would and so would everyone else.
I don`t think anyone has ever suggested that our planes are unsafe
without VG`s. Just that with them they are, maybe, just a little safer.
"In what way?" I am not even going down that road. Its been done to
death
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Attitudes |
Not one of my civil liberties has been curtailed...none. Not even
privacy. >>
Hi Jim,
mine has. I lost 2 perfectly good Swiss Army pocket knives because I had
forgotten to pack them in my luggage and carried them in my pocket. Which I
have done for 70 years..
You don`t think that the government being able to pin point where you made
a cell phone call from and who you spoke to is an invasion pf privacy.?.
You dont think that the fact that there is CCTV footage of you carrying on
your lawful business in the hands of all sorts of agencies is an invasion of
privacy? I do.
1984? You `aint seen nothin` yet. (but its all for your protection)
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
Pat
You are too used to being protected by your federal air nanny. In the early
days of aviation we didn't have the knowledge we have today. There were alot
of forced landings and worse. Most of us have learned from these problems
and build in some safe guards to protect ourselves and our mistresses er...
a... airplanes.
Granted we all have to weigh the cost in dollars/uros and weight against the
odds but to just say naw just go with the flow is not good advice. When I
was flying a $3,000 dollar Weedhopper with a 2 stroking time bomb in front
of me it didn't make alot of sense to build in very much redundancy. Now
that I fly a Kolb with a bullet proof airframe and a very reliable VW engine
it makes sense to me to spend $30 for a gascolator and about the same for a
boost pump. I'm also a bit older and not as invincible as I used to think I
was.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: CT MKIII crash
>
> would my plane even benefit from having one?>>
>
> Nah!!. Stop worrying. Always leave your fuel tanks topped up and there is
> no room for condensation to form. Use a water filtering funnel when you
> refuel, if you are worried about buying fuel with water in it. Empty you
> carb. chamber occasionally, evry year or so, and you will be right.
>
> You can get too hung up on all the little things that can go wrong until
> you have redundancy built in all over the place. Where are you going to
> stop?.
> All this fuss a few weeks ago about fitting an extra fuel pump. What for?
> Just look at the figurs. How many planes have had trouible with pump
> failure? There are all sorts of stories about someone who knew someone who
> had a failure but little first hand reporting.
> Of course it DOES happen but if it was likely to happen regularly a) the
> manufacturer would fit two pumps and b) the insurance company would load
> your premium if you only had one.
>
> Cool it and go with the flow, man
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
You are too used to being protected by your federal air nanny. >>
Hi Rick,
my post was a bit tongue in cheek but I am sure that our `Federal air nanny`
as you call our flriendly and helpful CAA and Microlight Association
wouldn`t let me do anything that was dangerous. Would they?
I must say that if I flew over some of the country that you people do, and
provide such great pics. of I don`t think I would take off without two
engines (or more) at least
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Attitudes |
She, too, was hassled
by the Air Force when they tried to take her land, but in the end she
won a
substantial lawsuit against the Air Force.>>
I have heard of Pancho Barnes and her part i the Space programme. Good
for her.. I am not suggesting for a moment that the government won`t
shaft us but I don`t think they actually set out with that in mind.It
sort of happens.
Re land tussles. We had a classic case here soon after the war. During
the war the Army took over a large estate called Crichel Down with the
promise that it would be returned after the war when the army had no use
for it. The Army eventually finished with it but the Ministry promptly
offered it to another branch of the Services.
The owner, who happened to have a lot of money,said, `That wasn`t the
agreement` and took the government to court, and won. It took a long
time and a lot of money but as a result several highly placed Civil
Servants were bowler hatted.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: LSA (Was Airport Attitudes) |
Do even foot launched aircraft require a C of A?>>
Hi Dana,
perhaps I expressed myself badly. I do not think that PPG, hang gliders etc
require a C of A.and you are probably right that the picture changes when
you add wheels. Wheels are becoming common here too.
Saw a picture this week of a hang glider, with the pilot hanging prone as
they do these days but with a pedal operated propellor on the back. I
wonder what category that will come in.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
Don't use the standard PVC with gas, it will have a reaction in time and
cause more problems. I had to install a temporary PVC line in until we could
plumb in the steel over head piping and had problems and at $30,000 per hr
down time I learned quick.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
Sent: 2008-10-15 10:51
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: CT MKIII crash
>
> It sounds like about anything will do the job so I think I am going with
> something like this:
>
> http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg13.html
>
> Simple cheap and effective! I could probably make a better one out of some
> pvc or galvanized pipe from lowes. using a t fitting to rune 2 fuel barbs
> and a pipe on the bottom of the T as the sump for the water.
>
> Anyone know how gasoline affects pvc?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8885#208885
>
>
>
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That looks like a really nice, clean HKS installation ! Your report seems typical
for HKS engines, they are expensive but everyone I have ever read about just
loves the HKS. They use them in trikes with very good results also.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Redrive VW powered MKIIIC Video |
The vibration was minimal, great video ! That was wild seeing you take off out
a that trench, I have never seen anything so narrow. I sure would like to see
a video of what the landings are like :)
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Gerry Olenik of Green Sky Aviation |
I bought my hks from Gerry @ http://www.greenskyadventures.com/
almost a year ago, and have been very impressed with his service and knowledge.
He has been prompt with parts shipment, and very generous with his tech support.
I personally recommend anyone who wants to buy a hks engine do so from Gerry.
He has years of experience installing different engines on different airframes,
and I have found his word to be honest and reliable. The hks is a relatively
high performance engine and as such will likely require some custom
tuning to your application. The learning curve was steep for me and I was thankful
to have Gerry there to help.
Dana from flightstar was also a huge help with tech support getting my install
running smoothly.
Rob Cannon
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
How long before there is a reaction to the PVC? We have been running this setup
for a year and everything is still doing fine.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSIITankMods.html
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: LSA (Was Airport Attitudes) |
At 04:38 PM 10/15/2008, pj.ladd wrote:
>Saw a picture this week of a hang glider, with the pilot hanging prone as
>they do these days but with a pedal operated propellor on the back. I
>wonder what category that will come in.
I'd venture the "unsuccessful" category...
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Attitudes |
At 04:16 PM 10/15/2008, pj.ladd wrote:
>...I am not suggesting for a moment that the government won`t shaft us but
>I don`t think they actually set out with that in mind.It sort of happens...
I forget who it was that said, "Never ascribe to malice what can be
explained by incompetence." But any organization, and especially
governments, are always controlled by Pournelle's Law:
"In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy
itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the
bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and
sometimes are eliminated entirely."
Also stated as:
"In any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: those
who work to further the actual goals of the organization, and those who
work for the organization itself. Examples in education would be teachers
who work and sacrifice to teach children, vs. union representative who work
to protect any teacher including the most incompetent. The Iron Law states
that in all cases, the second type of person will always gain control of
the organization, and will always write the rules under which the
organization functions."
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Gerry Olenik of Green Sky Aviation |
robcannon wrote:
> I bought my hks from Gerry @ http://www.greenskyadventures.com/
> almost a year ago, and have been very impressed with his service and knowledge.
He has been prompt with parts shipment, and very generous with his tech support.
I personally recommend anyone who wants to buy a hks engine do so from
Gerry. He has years of experience installing different engines on different
airframes, and I have found his word to be honest and reliable. The hks is a
relatively high performance engine and as such will likely require some custom
tuning to your application. The learning curve was steep for me and I was thankful
to have Gerry there to help.
> Dana from flightstar was also a huge help with tech support getting my install
running smoothly.
> Rob Cannon
Just as a general FYI,
I few years ago I had Gerry's son Tom (Olenik) do the 100 hour's on a couple of
my 503's. They came back looking and running better than new; he does superb
motor work.
So I'm sure that by extension all the Olenik's are great folks to deal with.
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
Patrick:
Glad I do not have to follow your advice.
I mentioned checking carb float bowls recently. We have had several
engine outs because float bowls were not checked. Some of these engine
outs resulted in fatalities. One time I got lazy and developed a rough
running engine because I did not check mine. Now I check them at
least once a month, whether I fly or not.
Nothing wrong with redundancy. If you do not want it, fine! Probably
not a good idea to advise others that it is not necessary.
Checking float bowls every year or so will get you in trouble.
Go with the flow, man, but not a good idea to recommend others do
likewise.
john h
mkIII
Nah!!.
Empty you
carb. chamber occasionally, evry year or so, and you will be right.
You can get too hung up on all the little things that can go wrong
until you
have redundancy built in all over the place.
Cool it and go with the flow, man
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: CT MKIII crash |
I welded up an Aluminum Tank 2"x 6" fuel line in on top, Fuel line out to
engine 3" up on side, Drain out of bottom You can mount these with Adel Clamps
to your airframe this is what I made for my firestar and never had
contaminated fuel , I am willing to make as many as you Kolbers need for cost
of
materials and a bit for my time
You need to let me know how many fuel lines in and How many lines out you
would like and I can make these larger if you desire it.
Ellery in Maine trying to get time to work on my MK3Xtra
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In a message dated 10/15/2008 9:05:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lcottrell@fmtcblue.com writes:
Patrick:
Glad I do not have to follow your advice.
I mentioned checking carb float bowls recently. We have had several engine
outs because float bowls were not checked. Some of these engine outs
resulted in fatalities. One time I got lazy and developed a rough running engine
because I did not check mine. Now I check them at least once a month,
whether I fly or not.
Nothing wrong with redundancy. If you do not want it, fine! Probably not a
good idea to advise others that it is not necessary.
Checking float bowls every year or so will get you in trouble.
Go with the flow, man, but not a good idea to recommend others do likewise.
john h
mkIII
Nah!!.
Empty you
carb. chamber occasionally, evry year or so, and you will be right.
You can get too hung up on all the little things that can go wrong until you
have redundancy built in all over the place.
Cool it and go with the flow, man
Cheers
Pat
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