---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/25/08: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:16 AM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Wayne McCullough) 2. 04:55 AM - safety pins (Ted Cowan) 3. 05:17 AM - Re: Flying the salt river east of Phoenix (gary aman) 4. 05:24 AM - Re: Flying the Salt river (gary aman) 5. 06:12 AM - Re: How do I learn to fly Ultrastar? Help please. (Dana Hague) 6. 06:12 AM - no subject (frank goodnight) 7. 06:31 AM - Re: no subject (russ kinne) 8. 06:32 AM - Re: no subject (russ kinne) 9. 06:38 AM - Re: Flying the Salt river (Nelson, Craig) 10. 08:15 AM - Re: safety pins (Ralph B) 11. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Kolbdriver) 12. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Ed Chmielewski) 13. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Jim Baker) 14. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Dana Hague) 15. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (possums) 16. 08:26 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (gary aman) 17. 09:03 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Jim Baker) 18. 09:15 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Jim Baker) 19. 09:17 PM - Re: Re: I'm so disappointed...... (Jim Baker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:16:00 AM PST US From: "Wayne McCullough" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... Dana, This is great......I pledge allegiance to the U.S. republic (see U.S. constitution or Articles of Confederation of the republic) which ended in 1865.....after the north(federals) took the south(confederates) by force. South Carolina withdrew from the union.........Lincoln in his memoirs wrote that he would make the south fire the first shot. As the union troops withdrew from Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor. The south gave the northern soldiers a ride out to the U.S. navy who were blockading the harbor. When the gunboats fired a warning shot (practice at sea at the time) the navy sank and destroyed the little flotilla including their own men who were evacuating the fort. The rest is history..............Slavery was the political point............You know us Bad southerners( no one agrees with slavery), but North and South were trading with slaves and cotton. I'm off my soapbox now.......LOL Wayne McCullough Kolbra 004 (building) I love history and HATE the democracy ( and politics) we have, but I still love our country for what it is worth. My father (who served in WW2) cannot believe where our morals have gone). He is 84. I'm 53. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:45 AM PST US From: "Ted Cowan" Subject: Kolb-List: safety pins I have seen both the round safety rings and the pin type wear out, disappear, etc. I use a small nylon tie strap and put it through the loop on the pin type or thru the ring and around the bolt, pin or whatever you are using on your struts and then snug it up. It holds it from moving and if it cant move, it cant wear out. It is easy to check on pre flight, if it is there, go. I fold occasionally and renew the ties and have NEVER had one fall off or break even after a year or so in the sun. Black seems to hold up better. Quick, easy and effective. I also use one between the ball and the bell on the ail rad. rod where you disconnect to take up the space. Good for what you paid for it. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot 912. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:26 AM PST US From: gary aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flying the salt river east of Phoenix Craig, Seems like all of the beautiful places to fly over require a lot of faith in the machines that take you there.Nice picts. no not archive ----- Original Message ---- From: "Nelson, Craig" Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:33:40 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Flying the salt river east of Phoenix <> <> <> <> Unbelievable flying weather Uncle craig 912ULS MKIII EX don't even think of archiving this ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:11 AM PST US From: gary aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flying the Salt river Craig, What brand of aircraft were you flying when you took these picts? no not archive ----- Original Message ---- From: "Nelson, Craig" Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:51:26 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Flying the Salt river <> <> <> <> <> <> <> Do Not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:13 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How do I learn to fly Ultrastar? Help please. At 02:25 AM 10/25/2008, petebarry99 wrote: >I have a nice Ultrastar and no motorized flying experience (years of >paragliding). My Kolb is mid 80's, good condition, Cayuna, no flaperons, >etc., no nose cone, rigid gear. > >What 2 place aircraft would be best to learn in, and does anybody know an >instructor/aircraft combo in the Northwest or in the West? (I am in NE >Oregon and willing to travel.) Well, another Kolb is best, of course, but you'll have a tough time finding anybody instructing in one. Second best is any other ultralight (er, "ultralight like" LSA), e.g. a 2 seat Challenger, Hawk, or Quicksilver. Third best is any light GA airplane (preferably a Cub, T-Craft, or the like), but if you take this option even one or two rides with somebody in an ultralight like LSA is HIGHLY advisable to get a sense of the differences. If you do your flight training in a nosewheel airplane then at least an hour or two of tailwheel time is a good idea. I came to my UltraStar from PPG... but some 15 years earlier I had plenty of GA time, most of it in a T-Craft. A friend checked me out informally in a 2-seat Quicksilver for a couple of flights, I flew it maybe 10 hours solo, then had no problems in the UltraStar. >Any peculiar flying/ground handling aspects to the Ultrastar---good or >bad? How are they at take off and landing? The US is a great flying airplane. It's light like the ultralight it is, but handles like a "real" airplane... a Quicksilver is a pig compared to any Kolb. >Any problems to look for? Any upgrades important? Do fairings on struts >make a diffference, or kinds of tires make much of a handling difference? There is a wing drag strut reinforcement that was added later and is a good idea. The list archives have lots of good information; here are three in particular I bookmarked: http://tinyurl.com/5u6r9w http://tinyurl.com/5lmwja http://tinyurl.com/5krl9m There is also a Yahoo group devoted to the UltraStar; it's not as active as this group but the group files section contains the UltraStar drawings, manual, and the Cuyuna owner's and service manuals: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KolbUltrastar/ -Dana -- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -- Galileo Galilei ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:58 AM PST US From: frank goodnight Subject: Kolb-List: no subject Hope you guys are doing well. We are getting ready for Halloween party Friday. I guess you are at the Razorback game today. Have fun. Hope they win. tell Tara hi and have fun. Mom ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:34 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: no subject This on the Kolb List??? do not archive Why? On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:12 AM, frank goodnight wrote: > Hope you guys are doing well. We are getting ready for Halloween > party Friday. > > I guess you are at the Razorback game today. Have fun. Hope they win. > tell Tara hi and have fun. > Mom > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:23 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: no subject This on the Kolb List??? do not archive Why? On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:12 AM, frank goodnight wrote: > Hope you guys are doing well. We are getting ready for Halloween > party Friday. > > I guess you are at the Razorback game today. Have fun. Hope they win. > tell Tara hi and have fun. > Mom > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:44 AM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Flying the Salt river From: "Nelson, Craig" R44 It's a blast Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary aman Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 5:24 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flying the Salt river Craig, What brand of aircraft were you flying when you took these picts? no not archive ----- Original Message ---- From: "Nelson, Craig" Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:51:26 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Flying the Salt river <> <> <> <> <> <> <> Do Not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:28 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: safety pins From: "Ralph B" tc1917(at)bellsouth.net wrote: > I have seen both the round safety rings and the pin type wear out, > disappear, etc. I use a small nylon tie strap and put it through the loop > on the pin type or thru the ring and around the bolt, pin or whatever you > are using on your struts and then snug it up. It holds it from moving and > if it cant move, it cant wear out. It is easy to check on pre flight, if it > is there, go. I fold occasionally and renew the ties and have NEVER had one > fall off or break even after a year or so in the sun. Black seems to hold > up better. Quick, easy and effective. I also use one between the ball and > the bell on the ail rad. rod where you disconnect to take up the space. > Good for what you paid for it. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot 912. Ted, be careful as you are trusting your life to a plastic tie wrap. I have used stainless marine safety rings for years. The clevis pins don't seem to wear out even though they do move around. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 21 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 0 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=210242#210242 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:19:49 AM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... You said it my brother! You said it. I'm looking for an island for the family and my Kolb.. I'll send you flying pics when I can. LOL Mike Oak Grove Missouri Mk III C Zuki! 1.3 Do not archive _____ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Hague Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... At 07:15 PM 10/24/2008, possums wrote: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure... That's why the United States was NEVER intended to be a democracy, Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the word "democracy" found. The Unites States is (or was) a constitutional republic, which is a very different thing. It's slipping into democracy, though, due to a public that doesn't know the difference, and elected officials that don't care. -Dana do not archive -- Democracy is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:51 PM PST US From: "Ed Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... Guys, Please keep it Kolb-related. There are plenty of other sites for politics! Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne McCullough To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 5:13 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... Dana, This is great......I pledge allegiance to the U.S. republic ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:02 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > Please keep it Kolb-related. This is going to be a test. I'll present the scenario and we'll see who comes up with the solution that eventually solved a rather perplexing problem on a friend's Kolb. Some of the data below may be indirection so be careful. Kolb FS I , Rotax 377, points ign. Engine ran fine the year prior which is the last time it was flown. Otherwise, engine started and run once or twice a month but only up to temperature and only up to 1/3 throttle to keep it lubricated. Fuel system required all hoses to be changed including primer line. Simplified system by taking out the primer bulb but left the primer pump. Fuel pump rebuilt, neoprene connector between carb and intake manifold replaced. When started and run up the engine failed to make full power hitting about 5800 rpm full throttle static and showing signs of being too lean since choke improved the situation but didn't make full power even then. Suspected the filter, replaced, same result. Re checked pulse pump, operating normally and providing sufficient fuel as indicated by the choke application. Float bowl clean, no debris. Jets were the same as before (remember, operated fine before) so no change. Jet needle change made no difference.Carb disassembled, all orifices blown out, floats checked good, float level checked good. Timing cheacked good as did plug gap and points and condenser. Still the same low power production aided with choke. Let's see if anyone can figure out what the problem really was. It was a funky solution but worth passing on....... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:38 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... How was the EGT, CHT, plugs? Jets could need to be changed even if it ran good before if the weather's different. Also could be crankshaft seals, cylinder base gaskets, fuel blockage upstream somewhere, or bad gas if that's what was sitting in the tank for a year. -Dana At 10:15 PM 10/25/2008, Jim Baker wrote: > >X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > > > Please keep it Kolb-related. > >This is going to be a test. I'll present the scenario and we'll see >who comes up with the solution that eventually solved a rather >perplexing problem on a friend's Kolb. Some of the data below may be >indirection so be careful. > >Kolb FS I , Rotax 377, points ign. Engine ran fine the year prior >which is the last time it was flown. Otherwise, engine started and >run once or twice a month but only up to temperature and only up to >1/3 throttle to keep it lubricated. Fuel system required all hoses to >be changed including primer line. Simplified system by taking out the >primer bulb but left the primer pump. Fuel pump rebuilt, neoprene >connector between carb and intake manifold replaced. > >When started and run up the engine failed to make full power hitting >about 5800 rpm full throttle static and showing signs of being too >lean since choke improved the situation but didn't make full power >even then. Suspected the filter, replaced, same result. Re checked >pulse pump, operating normally and providing sufficient fuel as >indicated by the choke application. Float bowl clean, no debris. Jets >were the same as before (remember, operated fine before) so no >change. Jet needle change made no difference.Carb disassembled, all >orifices blown out, floats checked good, float level checked good. >Timing cheacked good as did plug gap and points and condenser. Still >the same low power production aided with choke. > >Let's see if anyone can figure out what the problem really was. It >was a funky solution but worth passing on....... -- Question Authority and the authorities will question you! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:11 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... At 10:15 PM 10/25/2008, you wrote: > >X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > > > Please keep it Kolb-related. > >This is going to be a test. I'll present the scenario and we'll see >who comes up with the solution that eventually solved a rather >perplexing problem on a friend's Kolb. Some of the data below may be >indirection so be careful. If the holes in the bottom of these lines get clogged - the engine will never run right. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:26:28 PM PST US From: gary aman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... I'll bet on a air leak at the primer shaft ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Baker Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:15:59 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > Please keep it Kolb-related. This is going to be a test. I'll present the scenario and we'll see who comes up with the solution that eventually solved a rather perplexing problem on a friend's Kolb. Some of the data below may be indirection so be careful. Kolb FS I , Rotax 377, points ign. Engine ran fine the year prior which is the last time it was flown. Otherwise, engine started and run once or twice a month but only up to temperature and only up to 1/3 throttle to keep it lubricated. Fuel system required all hoses to be changed including primer line. Simplified system by taking out the primer bulb but left the primer pump. Fuel pump rebuilt, neoprene connector between carb and intake manifold replaced. When started and run up the engine failed to make full power hitting about 5800 rpm full throttle static and showing signs of being too lean since choke improved the situation but didn't make full power even then. Suspected the filter, replaced, same result. Re checked pulse pump, operating normally and providing sufficient fuel as indicated by the choke application. Float bowl clean, no debris. Jets were the same as before (remember, operated fine before) so no change. Jet needle change made no difference.Carb disassembled, all orifices blown out, floats checked good, float level checked good. Timing cheacked good as did plug gap and points and condenser. Still the same low power production aided with choke. Let's see if anyone can figure out what the problem really was. It was a funky solution but worth passing on....... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:24 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > I'll bet on a air leak at the primer shaft That was one of our thoughts as well so took the primer line off and capped the barb...no change. Good try tho.... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:53 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > How was the EGT, CHT, plugs? EGTs and CHTs were a bit low, plugs nice and tan. >Jets could need to be changed even if it ran > good before if the weather's different. Weather essentially the same. This engine has a history of over fifteen years of very consistent operation. Forgot to mention that it's only got about 300 hrs total. Overhauled last year and ran fine afterwards. Not a carbon problem. Ring end gaps all within spec as was the cylinder choke. Outer seals replaced, inner seals tested fine on vacuum test. All applicable gaskets new. > Also could be crankshaft seals, See above. > cylinder base gaskets, See above. > fuel blockage upstream somewhere Ran a fuel line from the pump inlet directly into the gas tank by- passing all other lines...no change. > or bad gas if > that's what was sitting in the tank for a year. Remember the fuel lines were all new and the tank was fine, new fuel and oil. This will just kill you when I tell you the outcome...... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:17 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I'm so disappointed...... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > If the holes in the bottom of these lines get clogged - the engine > will never run right. If you're thinking of the vent line, new hose and open vent hole. But that's not it either..... 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