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1. 04:33 AM - Re: New Fan Wing (icrashrc)
2. 05:25 AM - Re: Bahama bound (2danglico)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: Bahama bound (Robert Laird)
4. 11:41 AM - Non-Moving EGT's (Jack B. Hart)
5. 12:32 PM - Six Gallon Tank (beauford T)
6. 12:47 PM - Kolb List Re: six gallon tank (william sullivan)
7. 02:06 PM - Re: Six Gallon Tank (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 02:43 PM - Re: Non-Moving EGT's (Dana Hague)
9. 03:13 PM - Re: Six Gallon Tank (Jim)
10. 04:09 PM - Re: Six Gallon Tank (customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com)
11. 04:20 PM - Re: Six Gallon Tank (Jerry Jones)
12. 04:32 PM - Re: Six Gallon Tank (jerb)
13. 04:42 PM - Re: : six gallon tank (beauford T)
14. 05:06 PM - Kolb List Re: six gallon tank (william sullivan)
15. 05:31 PM - Re: Kolb List Re: six gallon tank (customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com)
16. 06:09 PM - Re: Non-Moving EGT's (grantr)
17. 08:47 PM - In Flight Video (Bill Eslick)
18. 10:01 PM - Re: In Flight Video (Carlos)
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Subject: | Re: New Fan Wing |
Funny they claim it's a "new' idea as that type of setup has been flying as radio
control for at least 10 years now.
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Scott
www.ill-EagleAviation.com
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Bahama bound |
I have no itinerary. I have a former Marine buddy working there and from our time
in Okinawa, he knew I enjoyed snorkeling alot. I'd been telling him about my
Firestar and how much fun I was having flying it around, when he suggested I
fly it over and bring my snorkel gear. I'm not sure if he knew I'd try to take
him up on it. I can make 170+ miles with my new "5 gal tank". Freeport doesn't
seem to be more than 60 or 70 from the Fla coast. I'm just not sure if they'll
allow an unregistered UL to fly over. But, who knows? Let me know what you
can find out. If they'll let me come over, we'll go at your convenience. -John
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Subject: | Re: Bahama bound |
I looked into this once, a long time ago... my memory may not be
complete, but I do remember that ULs would definitely -not- be
allowed... they only accepted registered aircraft, and certified
pilots, plus they had a lot of other requirements (insurance, fees,
paperwork, raft, etc.)
-- Robert
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:25 AM, 2danglico <john.tempest@basf.com> wrote:
>
> I have no itinerary. I have a former Marine buddy working there and from our
time in Okinawa, he knew I enjoyed snorkeling alot. I'd been telling him about
my Firestar and how much fun I was having flying it around, when he suggested
I fly it over and bring my snorkel gear. I'm not sure if he knew I'd try to take
him up on it. I can make 170+ miles with my new "5 gal tank". Freeport doesn't
seem to be more than 60 or 70 from the Fla coast. I'm just not sure if they'll
allow an unregistered UL to fly over. But, who knows? Let me know what you
can find out. If they'll let me come over, we'll go at your convenience. -John
>
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Subject: | Non-Moving EGT's |
At 07:51 PM 10/26/08 -0700, you wrote:
>
...............................
>I am still chasing egts. I raised my needle one notch and am still getting
right at 1200o but then engine runs just as well as it did before the
adjustment. I am going to read the plugs next time I get the airport.
>
Grant,
If you raise the needle and the EGT's do not move down, it may indicate that
the main jet is limiting fuel flow. Try increasing your main jet to the
next larger size.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Kolbers:
Due to some other factors, I had not dragged the Fly out of the trailer
for about two months. I did so on Sunday and found something
interesting.
The six gallon tank obtained from TNK a little over a year ago has
developed noticable bulging and sagging in the bottom half of the side
walls. It contained about five gallons and when pressed it felt
"flabby" and a lot more flexible than it did when first installed.
I will replace it with a standard five gallon thick-wall tank before I
will be willing to fly the airplane again... In its present condition,
this tank looks to me as if it could easily split open.
I called Travis and asked if he had heard of anything like this with the
sixes... He said they were certainly of thinner material than the
fives, but he had not heard of anyone reporting problems with bulging or
unusual softness in the lower sides like mine.
He asked me to put out a call on the List and see if anyone else had
observed a similar problem with the six gallon tanks...
Any takers...??
beauford
FF076
Brandon, FL
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Subject: | Kolb List re: six gallon tank |
- Beauford- Just out of curiosity, if it was in a trailer, what kind of t
emperatures have you had in the last couple of months?- Could it have got
ten too hot in the trailer?
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----------------- Bill Sullivan
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----------------- Windsor Locks, Ct.
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Subject: | Re: Six Gallon Tank |
Bill
Seems like Travis was showing us at Homecoming a newer 6 gallon tank
that was more like the 5 gallon in thickness.
Travis, Is this the case?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: beauford T
To: Kolb List
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Six Gallon Tank
Kolbers:
Due to some other factors, I had not dragged the Fly out of the
trailer for about two months. I did so on Sunday and found something
interesting.
The six gallon tank obtained from TNK a little over a year ago has
developed noticable bulging and sagging in the bottom half of the side
walls. It contained about five gallons and when pressed it felt
"flabby" and a lot more flexible than it did when first installed.
I will replace it with a standard five gallon thick-wall tank before I
will be willing to fly the airplane again... In its present condition,
this tank looks to me as if it could easily split open.
I called Travis and asked if he had heard of anything like this with
the sixes... He said they were certainly of thinner material than the
fives, but he had not heard of anyone reporting problems with bulging or
unusual softness in the lower sides like mine.
He asked me to put out a call on the List and see if anyone else had
observed a similar problem with the six gallon tanks...
Any takers...??
beauford
FF076
Brandon, FL
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Subject: | Re: Non-Moving EGT's |
At 03:41 PM 10/29/2008, Jack B. Hart wrote:
>At 07:51 PM 10/26/08 -0700, you wrote:
> >
>...............................
> >I am still chasing egts. I raised my needle one notch and am still getting
>right at 1200o but then engine runs just as well as it did before the
>adjustment. I am going to read the plugs next time I get the airport.
>
>Grant,
>
>If you raise the needle and the EGT's do not move down, it may indicate that
>the main jet is limiting fuel flow. Try increasing your main jet to the
>next larger size.
Is this full throttle EGT? The needle should be completely out of the jet
and have no effect at full throttle, no?
-Dana
--
Can I deduct last years taxes as a bad investment?
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Subject: | Re: Six Gallon Tank |
Mine deform slightly too. Jim Kmet
----- Original Message -----
From: beauford T
To: Kolb List
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Six Gallon Tank
Kolbers:
Due to some other factors, I had not dragged the Fly out of the trailer f
or about two months. I did so on Sunday and found something interesting.
The six gallon tank obtained from TNK a little over a year ago has develo
ped noticable bulging and sagging in the bottom half of the side walls. I
t contained about five gallons and when pressed it felt "flabby" and a lot
more flexible than it did when first installed.
I will replace it with a standard five gallon thick-wall tank before I wi
ll be willing to fly the airplane again... In its present condition, this
tank looks to me as if it could easily split open.
I called Travis and asked if he had heard of anything like this with the
sixes... He said they were certainly of thinner material than the fives, b
ut he had not heard of anyone reporting problems with bulging or unusual so
ftness in the lower sides like mine.
He asked me to put out a call on the List and see if anyone else had obs
erved a similar problem with the six gallon tanks...
Any takers...??
beauford
FF076
Brandon, FL
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Subject: | Re: Six Gallon Tank |
Rick
The tanks you saw here in Sep. are the same 6 gallon tanks I have always
used. It could be some of them are thicker material.
I will check ours in the MIII Xtra Thursday .
Travis @ home
Richard & Martha Neilsen writes:
> Bill
>
> Seems like Travis was showing us at Homecoming a newer 6 gallon tank that was
more like the 5 gallon in thickness.
>
> Travis, Is this the case?
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: beauford T
> To: Kolb List
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:29 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Six Gallon Tank
>
>
> Kolbers:
>
> Due to some other factors, I had not dragged the Fly out of the trailer for
about two months. I did so on Sunday and found something interesting.
>
> The six gallon tank obtained from TNK a little over a year ago has developed
noticable bulging and sagging in the bottom half of the side walls. It contained
about five gallons and when pressed it felt "flabby" and a lot more flexible
than it did when first installed.
>
> I will replace it with a standard five gallon thick-wall tank before I will
be willing to fly the airplane again... In its present condition, this tank
looks to me as if it could easily split open.
>
> I called Travis and asked if he had heard of anything like this with the sixes...
He said they were certainly of thinner material than the fives, but he
had not heard of anyone reporting problems with bulging or unusual softness in
the lower sides like mine.
>
> He asked me to put out a call on the List and see if anyone else had observed
a similar problem with the six gallon tanks...
>
> Any takers...??
>
> beauford
> FF076
> Brandon, FL
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Six Gallon Tank |
FWIW, over many years and many planes, I've yet to see a plastic tank
that hasn't developed bulges with time--just like a few of us.
Jerry
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Subject: | Re: Six Gallon Tank |
Might this be caused by a pressure build up or a chemical reaction
from our new blended fuels?
Haven't looked at my tank, now I'm scared to look although mine is a
10 gal Challenger tank. Than's for alerting us to this Beauford.
jerb
At 05:13 PM 10/29/2008, you wrote:
>Mine deform slightly too. Jim Kmet
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:beauford173@verizon.net>beauford T
>To: <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>Kolb List
>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:29 PM
>Subject: Kolb-List: Six Gallon Tank
>
>Kolbers:
>
>Due to some other factors, I had not dragged the Fly out of the
>trailer for about two months. I did so on Sunday and found
>something interesting.
>
>The six gallon tank obtained from TNK a little over a year ago has
>developed noticable bulging and sagging in the bottom half of the
>side walls. It contained about five gallons and when pressed it
>felt "flabby" and a lot more flexible than it did when first installed.
>
>I will replace it with a standard five gallon thick-wall tank before
>I will be willing to fly the airplane again... In its present
>condition, this tank looks to me as if it could easily split open.
>
>I called Travis and asked if he had heard of anything like this with
>the sixes... He said they were certainly of thinner material than
>the fives, but he had not heard of anyone reporting problems with
>bulging or unusual softness in the lower sides like mine.
>
>He asked me to put out a call on the List and see if anyone else
>had observed a similar problem with the six gallon tanks...
>
>Any takers...??
>
>beauford
>FF076
>Brandon, FL
>
>
>p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>
>ics.com
>
>matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:: six gallon tank |
Brother Sullivan...
Fair question, sir...
It is an enclosed trailer, but well vented and has a light colored
roof... The Fly has been
in this same trailer in the same place since 2001... with the same 5
gallon tank installed.
That tank is now sitting in the garage and, aside from a good bit of
staining and discoration, appears structurally to be in the same
condition it was in in 2001.
It does get right warm in the trailer, but I have noticed no
deterioration with anything else in there over the years...and another
Kolb with two five gallon tanks sat next to it in a similar trailer for
three years or so with no adverse effects on the tanks...
I think it is just a case of the manufacturer blowing the six gallon
jobs without enough material in them... When it arrived new, I
immediately noticed that it was significantly less robust than the five
gallon version.
beauford
FF-076
----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
To: kolb list
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb List re: six gallon tank
Beauford- Just out of curiosity, if it was in a trailer, what
kind of temperatures have you had in the last couple of months? Could
it have gotten too hot in the trailer?
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
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Subject: | Kolb List re: six gallon tank |
- Beauford- That's why I asked, to see if it could be age, comparative th
ickness, sunlight deterioration, etc.- Maybe there is a common factor, if
someone else had a problem.- Good luck.
-
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----------------------- Bill
Sullivan
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Subject: | Re: Kolb List re: six gallon tank |
Good point Bill.
At $25 per tank replacing the tank yearly might be a good idea especially
with todays fuel we are using.
I know the new fuel is driving the antique car guys crazy Especially the
cars with the old original vacuum fuel tank pump set up.
Travis
william sullivan writes:
> Beauford- That's why I asked, to see if it could be age, comparative thickness,
sunlight deterioration, etc. Maybe there is a common factor, if someone
else had a problem. Good luck.
>
> Bill Sullivan
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Subject: | Re: Non-Moving EGT's |
Full throttle EGTs are 1200 to 1225. 5300 to 6000 one is right on 1200 the other
is right under it so I say around 1180.
Before I installed the new Dual egt the reading on the single EGT gauge was 900o
at 6000rpms
See in photo below. Nothing was changed prior to the gauge switch. I am still using
the same sender EGT probe the old gauge used on the PTO cylinder.
When I checked/ changed the plugs after the gauge change the plugs were light
brown. I dont know why the 2 gauges read different on the egts
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Quality is lost in going to YouTube, but here is my FSII roaming the local
area.
http://tinyurl.com/55sw7g
Bill Eslick
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Subject: | Re: In Flight Video |
Hi Bill
That was a cool video. I really like the airport you are flying out of.
Looks like a estate.
Its a darn shame your Kolb is way in the heck out in Texas. Would like
to do a little Kolb formation flying sometime.
Have Fun and Lots of it!
Carlos Grageda
Walla Walla WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Eslick
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: In Flight Video
Quality is lost in going to YouTube, but here is my FSII roaming the
local area.
http://tinyurl.com/55sw7g
Bill Eslick
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