Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 10/31/08


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:03 AM - not kolb (robert bean)
     2. 07:34 AM - Re: not kolb (possums)
     3. 07:39 AM - Re: not kolb (beauford T)
     4. 08:10 AM - Re: not kolb (Jack B. Hart)
     5. 08:16 AM - Re: not kolb (clrprop)
     6. 08:17 AM - Re: In Flight Video (Jack B. Hart)
     7. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: not kolb (George Myers)
     8. 09:16 AM - Firestar rebuild (william sullivan)
     9. 09:32 AM - Re: not kolb (thumb)
    10. 02:24 PM - Kolb factory (blackbird)
    11. 04:03 PM - Re: not kolb (russ kinne)
    12. 04:49 PM - Re: not kolb (clrprop)
    13. 05:29 PM - Re: not kolb (robert bean)
    14. 05:42 PM - Re: not kolb (russ kinne)
    15. 06:20 PM - Re: not kolb (Dana Hague)
    16. 07:12 PM - Re: not kolb (Jack B. Hart)
    17. 07:36 PM - Re: not kolb (possums)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:03:45 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: not kolb
    Can anyone tell if this is real? <http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> BB ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever


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    Time: 07:34:33 AM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    At 10:02 AM 10/31/2008, you wrote: >Can anyone tell if this is real? > ><<http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> > >BB > >ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever Yeah, my instructor made me do that maneuver too on my BFR. I nailed it. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:39:16 AM PST US
    From: "beauford T" <beauford173@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    Brother Bean: The fellas who run this aviation blog claim it's a fake... http://www.reggiepaulk.com/ ...if it's real, I couldn't help but wonder if he'd have made it in a Firefly... I suspect even the mighty 447 would have trouble pulling that one off...especially with ethanol in the gas... do not archive beauford FF076 Brandon, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: robert bean To: kolb Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Kolb-List: not kolb Can anyone tell if this is real? <http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> BB ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever


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    Time: 08:10:47 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> Can anyone tell if this is real? <http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> Bob, It looks real and demonstrates that if you have enough power and remaining control surfaces, plus some luck you can fly anything. Some time back I watched a video of an Israel jet that landed with most of the right wing missing. He had to fly with afterburner to keep it in the air. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 08:16:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    From: "clrprop" <ktony@windstream.net>
    I know it's possible in RC at least. seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXMrFh3n7M Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211356#211356


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    Time: 08:17:24 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: In Flight Video
    From: "Bill Eslick" <wgeslick@gmail.com> http://tinyurl.com/55sw7g Bill, Good video Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN do not archive


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    Time: 09:01:48 AM PST US
    From: "George Myers" <gmyers@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    It's a fake. What a shame. Go here for more info. http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/AVwebInsiderBlog_ViralVideo_KillaThrill_L ostWingLanding_199096-1.html >I know it's possible in RC at least. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXMrFh3n7M Do not archive


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    Time: 09:16:02 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Firestar rebuild
    - I have been stripping down the Firestar wings for salvage and scrap.- I have 2 sets of wings, the original clipped wings with a "flashing" leadi ng edge, and I believe the other full length wings are-from a KX version. - The original wings had the flashing to eliminate the "starving horse" l ook.- The KX wings are signed and dated.- I can't read the signature, b ut they are marked "wing closed 1/21/89", San Angelo, Texas.- The name is "Mark" something, and about 3 other names.- I found that he had used wha t appears to be electrical tape for an interferance layer between the steel root rib, and the trailing edge.- He also used it on the "H" brace insid e the wing main tube.- It seems to have worked nicely, and maintained a s nug, cushioned fit.- Has anyone ever heard of this?- Neat trick, no sig n of electrolysis. - The original wings used a brushed on green primer for this. - ------------------------- ------------------------ Bi ll Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------ Wi ndsor Locks, Ct.


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    Time: 09:32:41 AM PST US
    From: "thumb" <bill_joe@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    Hello Guy's It has already been proven it is a fake. It was done using a model plane. My local EAA just sent the proof last night on how it was done. I would post it but I have already deleted it . Sorry Bill Futrell Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: robert bean To: kolb Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Kolb-List: not kolb Can anyone tell if this is real? <http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> BB ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever


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    Time: 02:24:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Kolb factory
    From: "blackbird" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
    Went by the factory Wednesday 10-29-2008. At 5:00 p.m. they were closed. I know should have called, but I was traveling fast. Wow what a drop on the end of the runway. LOL.... What pretty country. Went out on the runway to capture this shot. Wayne McCullough (Kolbra 004) -------- Wish I lived in the American REPUBLIC!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211388#211388 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_factory_190.jpg


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    Time: 04:03:41 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    Bob I've watched this quite a few times and I think it's real. Also incredible! And I don't see how it could have been faked Russ Kinne do not archive On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:02 AM, robert bean wrote: > Can anyone tell if this is real? > > <http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> > > BB > > ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever > >


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    Time: 04:49:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    From: "clrprop" <ktony@windstream.net>
    It sure looks real to me too. I've never seen a large RC aerobatic plane that doesn't use wing tubes. The plane in the vid didn't have them. I think it's incredible that he got into that spin and was able to recover from it and go on to land, whether it was RC or full-scale ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211409#211409


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    Time: 05:29:39 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    Russ, if you have seen some of the stuff done on sports video games and cut and paste political humor anything can be done. A reliable eyewitness would be our only source of verity. The fact that an RC plane could do it leaves room for possibility. BB MkIII, control rods and pins pulled for the annual wing removal and storage. On 31, Oct 2008, at 7:01 PM, russ kinne wrote: > Bob > I've watched this quite a few times and I think it's real. Also > incredible! > And I don't see how it could have been faked > Russ Kinne > do not archive > > > On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:02 AM, robert bean wrote: > >> Can anyone tell if this is real? >> >> <http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> >> >> BB >> >> ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http:// >> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// >> www.matronics.com/contribution >> > >


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    Time: 05:42:47 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    Bob, you may well be right. I've been in photography all my life, even (blush) faking a few things; but fakes are usually detectable. However, I have no RC experience. Wonder if we'll ever know for sure? RK do not archive On Oct 31, 2008, at 8:28 PM, robert bean wrote: > Russ, if you have seen some of the stuff done on sports video games > and cut and paste > political humor anything can be done. A reliable eyewitness would > be our only source > of verity. > The fact that an RC plane could do it leaves room for possibility. > BB > MkIII, control rods and pins pulled for the annual wing removal and > storage. > > > On 31, Oct 2008, at 7:01 PM, russ kinne wrote: > >> Bob >> I've watched this quite a few times and I think it's real. Also >> incredible! >> And I don't see how it could have been faked >> Russ Kinne >> do not archive >> >> >> On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:02 AM, robert bean wrote: >> >>> Can anyone tell if this is real? >>> >>> <http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> >>> >>> BB >>> >>> ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http:// >>> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// >>> www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http:// >> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// >> www.matronics.com/contribution >> > >


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    Time: 06:20:09 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    At 08:42 PM 10/31/2008, russ kinne wrote: >Bob, you may well be right. >I've been in photography all my life, even (blush) faking a few things; >but fakes are usually detectable. >However, I have no RC experience. Wonder if we'll ever know for sure? Russ, I've done R/C since I was twelve... the plane in the video (until the very end after the landing when it rolls to a stop and the pilot gets out) is undoubtedly an R/C, with blurs and out of frame moments hiding transitions. There are several videos floating around of R/C planes pulling this off. It does take a very skillful R/C pilot. -Dana do not archive -- Please return stewardess to original upright position.


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    Time: 07:12:46 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LveSc8Lp0ZE Some time back I watched a video of an Israel jet that landed with most of the right wing missing. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN do not archive


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    Time: 07:36:17 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: not kolb
    At 10:02 AM 10/31/2008, you wrote: >Can anyone tell if this is real? > ><<http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html>http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html> > >BB > >ps, a real heartbeat stimulator whatever Maybe it is, or this flyer is sure ruining his reputation. http://www.jamesandersson.com/video01.html




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