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Sat 11/15/08


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:11 AM - Re: help picking video camera (R. Hankins)
     2. 11:35 AM - Re: Performance of the mark III with 912 or jabiru? (JetPilot)
     3. 02:52 PM - Re: Re: Performance of the mark III with 912 or jabiru? (Jerry Jones)
     4. 02:57 PM - Re: 503 cabin heater (Tom Jones)
     5. 04:19 PM - Fw: [A Must See Video For Pilots And Vets THIS IS AMAZING (Dickk9@aol.com)
     6. 04:24 PM - A must see (Dickk9@aol.com)
     7. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: 503 cabin heater (Larry Cottrell)
     8. 06:03 PM - BFR (Larry Cottrell)
     9. 08:19 PM - Re: Performance of the mark III with 912 or jabiru? (JetPilot)
    10. 08:26 PM - Re: Engine Weight limit (JetPilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:11:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: help picking video camera
    From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
    Grant, One thing to keep in mind with a hard drive camera is that metal disks in hard drives are supported by air bearings. When researching video cameras I was looking at operating limitations (max-min temperature, etc) and noticed that most hard drive cameras in my price range were not recommended above 8000ft density altitude. That ruled them out for my use. It may not be an issue depending on where you typically operate. Eastern Oregon flying often requires cruising above 8000' if you want more than two minutes of glide above rough terrain. The trade off in mid range cameras is quality vs convenience. I bought a mini DV camera a year ago because at that time I could get picture quality equal to a hard drive camera at 1/2 the price because of the video compression needed in the hard drive camera. The downside is that getting files off of tape is a real pain compared to dragging and dropping files off of a hard drive or memory card. Mini DV is going away and hard drive cameras are getting cheaper. Looking back, the convenience factor is more important than I thought. There are a lot of files still on tape that I haven't bothered to put online because of the time it takes to play it out of the camera into the computer. I agree that a hard drive camera is a great way to go if it fits your budget and operating window. This info is accurate as of a year ago. Check the specs an any camera you are interested in to see if there are altitude limitations. Good luck on your quest. I look forward to seeing your clips online. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214348#214348


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    Time: 11:35:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Performance of the mark III with 912 or jabiru?
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Grant, The Rotax 912 is a vastly superior engine to the Jabiru in both performance and reliability. The 912 turns the prop slower than the Jabiru and results in much better performance on a Kolb. My numbers are very close to John and RLaird. Climb with a 912-S is about 1300 FPM at 5200 RPM, Stall at 30, and slow cruise at 70 MPH burning just over3 GPH at 4200 RPM. I don't do fast cruise, I have no numbers for that. The 912 is perfect for the airplane... Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214379#214379


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    Time: 02:52:45 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Jones <maderah2@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Performance of the mark III with 912 or jabiru?
    Wellllll, there are some of us who would disagree that the 912 is vastly superior...and that it provides much better performance. Jerry On Nov 15, 2008, at 11:34 AM, JetPilot wrote: > > Grant, > > The Rotax 912 is a vastly superior engine to the Jabiru in both > performance and reliability. The 912 turns the prop slower than > the Jabiru and results in much better performance on a Kolb. My > numbers are very close to John and RLaird. > > Climb with a 912-S is about 1300 FPM at 5200 RPM, Stall at 30, and > slow cruise at 70 MPH burning just over3 GPH at 4200 RPM. I don't > do fast cruise, I have no numbers for that. The 912 is perfect > for the airplane... > > Mike > > -------- > &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast > as you could have !!! > > Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214379#214379 > >


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    Time: 02:57:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 503 cabin heater
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Thanks to the ideas sent to me I built the heater and tested it today. I just put a restrictor plate on the hot air duct and 2" scat hose through the firewall between my feet. It's a 10 big dogs breath heater. The CHT's behaved just fine. I like things simple so there are no contrlos, just put the restrictor plate on for the winter and take it off for the summer. I could make a couple different sized restrictor plates for when it gets real cold I guess. ground adjustable only. Pictures attached. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214391#214391 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/restrictor_plate_178.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/503_cabin_heater_838.jpg


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    Time: 04:19:50 PM PST US
    From: Dickk9@aol.com
    Subject: Fwd: [A Must See Video For Pilots And Vets THIS IS AMAZING
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    Time: 04:24:51 PM PST US
    From: Dickk9@aol.com
    Subject: A must see
    From: In 1968 (1967?) a SR-71 made an emergency landing at Grand Force AFB and was "parked" between two B-52 hangers close to the N/S road that paralled the base runway. The aircraft was completely visible to anyone using the road. Immediately after landing, GFAFB security established machine gun "nests" close to the plane. The two man crew could not exit the plane until a C-130 arrived from Edwards AFB with the ground support equipment and aircraft technicians to evacuate the crew and "fix" whatever the problem(s) were. Of course, everyone on the base came to see the 71 and security had to control traffi c. After the "fixes" were accomplished (two days?), the 71 exited the base heading north. A few minutes later it returned at a very low altitude at tremendous speed in a fly by. It was awesome and was probably witnessed by about everyone on the base. Eye candy for people who like airplanes Grab your beverage and relax for a few minutes of awesome beauty. The SR-71 was the creation of Kelly Johnson, Lockheed, Eisenhower and the Air Force. It was envisioned in the '50s, first flew in the early '60s, retired in the '80s, briefly brought back in the '90s. In all, 13 units of the single seat A-12 were built, and 32 of the Pilot + Recon two seat SR-71 units were built. Five A-12 were lost, one is stored. Twelve two seaters were lost. The remaining 27 are on display around the USA .. The closest is at Atwater, the old Castle AFB museum at Merced with 50 other classic warplanes. You probably have a better opportunity of viewing the one in San Diego. Ask me and I'll tell you where the others are. NY, OR, OH, DC, etc. I can find most answers to most questions. Just ask. Start with the 2000+ mph, the 80,000 feet + altitude. More if you wish. So enjoy. One more thing. The author of the captions to the picture in this video made one misstatement, due to youth. The U-2 Recon aircraft was created in 1955, flew operationally in 1956. Kelly thought the USSR would shoot it down in 18 months. Lucky us, it flew until Gary Powers was downed on 1 May 1960. But Kelly Johnson already had the go-ahead from Ike for the A-12. It first flew in 1962, JFK kept the manufacture of it active. No one told LBJ, 'cause everyone knew he would spill the secret. He wasn't told til the week after JFK left us. And sure enough, LBJ gave out the secret in a matter of months. Anyhow, the most interesting, most exciting five years of my life were spent in the program, as a KC-135 refueling pilot. Where the Blackbird went, we went. You will see several refuelings in the following. Enjoy. Click here to view the slideshow: _http://www.greatdanepromilitary.com/SR-71/index.htm_ (http://www.greatdanepromilitary.com/SR-71/index.htm) **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)


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    Time: 05:55:19 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: 503 cabin heater
    Tom, If you did it the way that I think you did then all you will have to do is make a alum fitting that goes through the firewall with a swing gate inside the fitting to either open or close the gate. Attaching your scat tubing to the new fitting. Larry C, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jones To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 503 cabin heater Thanks to the ideas sent to me I built the heater and tested it today. I just put a restrictor plate on the hot air duct and 2" scat hose through the firewall between my feet. It's a 10 big dogs breath heater. The CHT's behaved just fine. I like things simple so there are no contrlos, just put the restrictor plate on for the winter and take it off for the summer. I could make a couple different sized restrictor plates for when it gets real cold I guess. ground adjustable only. Pictures attached. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214391#214391 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/restrictor_plate_178.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/503_cabin_heater_838.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 11/15/2008 6:57 PM


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    Time: 06:03:28 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: BFR
    Well, I am legal for two more years. I took my BFR today and the joy at not having to fly a Challenger for two more years is indescribable. :-) If that was the only plane there was to fly, I would walk. (Calm down Pat) I cannot believe how much better my Firestar flies. I owe Dennis Souder much more than I can say for his recommendation of the Firestar. Larry C, Oregon do not archive.


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    Time: 08:19:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Performance of the mark III with 912 or jabiru?
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    [quote="Ricochet"]Wellllll, there are some of us who would disagree that the 912 is vastly superior...and that it provides much better performance. Jerry On Nov 15, 2008, at 11:34 AM, JetPilot wrote: [quote] > [b] Then you would be wrong... It has been tried, and the results are in the archives to prove it. The 912 is a better engine on a Kolb, PERIOD. If you ended up with the inferior Jabiru on your Kolb, then I'm sorry for you, but that is no reason to try to get others to make the same mistake. There is a really good reason that 80 % of all LSA airplanes today use the Rotax 912 series engine, and not the Jabiru. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214433#214433


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    Time: 08:26:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Weight limit
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Just because you CAN put a very heavy engine on a Kolb MK III does not mean that you would want to. The Kolb MK III flys a lot nicer when it is kept relatively light. I have flown my Kolb at light weights alone, and at very heavy weights with a bunch of gas and a heavy passenger. The Kolb feels more like a 172 and not a Kolb when it is very heavy. Being to heavy takes a lot of fun out of the Kolb. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214434#214434




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