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Sat 11/22/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     0. 12:52 AM - LOC (Matt Dralle)
     1. 03:40 AM - It really torques me  (Ted Cowan)
     2. 03:59 AM - Re: torque on various bolts (icrashrc)
     3. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: torque on various bolts (Eugene Zimmerman)
     4. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: torque on various bolts (Richard Girard)
     5. 08:03 AM - Re: Re: torque on various bolts (robert bean)
     6. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: torque on various bolts (boyd)
     7. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: torque on various bolts (boyd)
     8. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: torque on various bolts (Dana Hague)
     9. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: torque on various bolts (Eugene Zimmerman)
    10. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: My other hobby (gary aman)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:52:04 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: LOC
    Dear Listers, Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator


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    Time: 03:40:13 AM PST US
    From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: It really torques me
    Okay, to end a confusion spot. If you have 12 inch pounds and you want to know how many foot pounds, you can divide by 12 or multiply by .08333, same answer almost. easier to divide. Larry Cottrell, you can get a lessor quality inch pounder for about thirty bucks, certainly around fifty. if you stay in this business long, you will need it cause just about every bolt on your engines use inch pounders for a better torque value. If it calls for 120 inch pounds and you use ten foot pounds, you will find it is not usually calibrated for that low on a foot pounder. I would never use a pounder to put in spark plugs or small bolts in engine cages. tisk tisk. my opinion is worth what you pay for it. Ted Cowan, Alabama, (17 degrees this morning) Slingshot. Going to miss another good fly in because of the temps.


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    Time: 03:59:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
    This chart only goes up to 90,000psi bolts yet Aircraft Spruce lists AN hardware @ 120,000psi. Anyone have a chart for 120,000psi bolts? BTW, Warp shows AN 5 prop mounting bolts to be torqued to 200 inch/pounds. [quote="by0ung(at)brigham.net"]Cristal... here is a link on my web sight that gives the torque values on bolts. Taken from the Advisory Circular ac 43.13-1B acceptable methods, Techniques, and practices--- Aircraft inspection and repair sept 8 1998. Dept of Transportaion, FAA flight standard service regulatory support division. http://www.brigham.net/~byoung/torque.jpg prop manufactures may have specific torque requirements. Boyd Young Kolb MkIIIC Brigham City Ut Please archive. [quote -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215720#215720


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    Time: 05:49:43 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <ez@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    Correct, 1 inch pound divided by 12, = 0.0833333333333 foot pound 12 inch pounds divided by 12 = 1 foot pound 240 inch pounds divided by 12 = 20 foot pounds etc. Gene On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:17 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > Gene, > I though so too, until I Googled it. I then found that > 1 inch pound force = 0.0833333333 foot pounds > > More about calculator. > And Rick, I have looked at all the local shops, not on the computer, > and have yet to find a torque wrench that measures inch pounds, for > less than $75.00. For that much I will do the conversion. Is too > cheap a reason? > Larry C Oregon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eugene Zimmerman > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: torque on various bolts > > Hey, forget google. > It is not that difficult. Just take inch pounds and divide by 12 > to get foot pounds. > > Gene > > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > >> Google inch pounds to foot pounds to get a converter to use. > >


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    Time: 06:45:37 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    Larry, Auto Zone has a Great Neck 3/8 in. drive micrometer torque wrench........$21.99Sears has a Craftsman beam type for $24.99 Rick On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Eugene Zimmerman <ez@embarqmail.com> wrote: > Correct, > 1 inch pound divided by 12, = 0.0833333333333 foot pound 12 inch pounds > divided by 12 = 1 foot pound > 240 inch pounds divided by 12 = 20 foot pounds > etc. > > Gene > > > On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:17 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > > Gene, > I though so too, until I Googled it. I then found that > *1 inch pound force = 0.0833333333 foot pounds* More about calculator.<http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/features.html#calculator> > And Rick, I have looked at all the local shops, not on the computer, and > have yet to find a torque wrench that measures inch pounds, for less than > $75.00. For that much I will do the conversion. Is too cheap a reason? > Larry C Oregon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Eugene Zimmerman <ez@embarqmail.com> > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2008 6:45 PM > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: torque on various bolts > > Hey, forget google.It is not that difficult. Just take inch > pounds and divide by 12 to get foot pounds. > > Gene > > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > > Google inch pounds to foot pounds to get a converter to use. > > ** > > > * > >


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    Time: 08:03:00 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    Harbor fright has one for $20. I have a chinese cheepie that I use all the time. I reference checked it for accuracy and it was quite accurate. In the AF they made a big deal out of recalibrating them but this one stays the same. BB On 22, Nov 2008, at 12:17 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > Gene, > I though so too, until I Googled it. I then found that > 1 inch pound force = 0.0833333333 foot pounds > > More about calculator. > And Rick, I have looked at all the local shops, not on the > computer, and have yet to find a torque wrench that measures inch > pounds, for less than $75.00. For that much I will do the > conversion. Is too cheap a reason? > Larry C Oregon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eugene Zimmerman > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: torque on various bolts > > Hey, forget google. > It is not that difficult. Just take inch pounds and divide by > 12 to get foot pounds. > > Gene > > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > >> Google inch pounds to foot pounds to get a converter to use. > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb- > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > - - Release Date: 11/21/2008 6:24 PM


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    Time: 08:26:33 AM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    It is not that difficult. Just take inch pounds and divide by 12 to get foot pounds. I though so too, until I Googled it. I then found that 1 inch pound force = 0.0833333333 foot pounds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is the inverse of the same formula 110 x 0.083333333333 = 9.17 110 / 12 = 9.17 For me I can remember that there is 12 inches in a foot easier than I can remember 0.0833333333 Boyd Young MKIII C


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    Time: 08:26:39 AM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    This chart only goes up to 90,000psi bolts yet Aircraft Spruce lists AN hardware @ 120,000psi. Anyone have a chart for 120,000psi bolts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked the book and there is not a page 2 to the chart... Boyd Young Do not archive.


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    Time: 08:32:39 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    At 06:59 AM 11/22/2008, icrashrc wrote: > >This chart only goes up to 90,000psi bolts yet Aircraft Spruce lists AN >hardware @ 120,000psi. Anyone have a chart for 120,000psi bolts? > >BTW, Warp shows AN 5 prop mounting bolts to be torqued to 200 inch/pounds. The values in that chart are NOT suitable for propeller bolts! Prop bolt torques are based on the required force to properly clamp the prop without crushing it, which will be different depending on the prop construction. Use the manufacturer's recommended torque values and nothing else. For wood props, here's a good writeup from Sensenich: http://www.sensenichprop.com/sen_html/aircraft_cet/install/cf-a.pdf -Dana -- Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.


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    Time: 01:10:34 PM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <ez@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: torque on various bolts
    Correct, 1 inch pound divided by 12, = 0.0833333333333 foot pound 12 inch pounds divided by 12 = 1 foot pound 240 inch pounds divided by 12 = 20 foot pounds etc. Gene On Nov 22, 2008, at 11:25 AM, boyd wrote: > It is not that difficult. Just take inch pounds and divide by 12 > to get foot pounds. > > > I though so too, until I Googled it. I then found that > > 1 inch pound force = 0.0833333333 foot pounds > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > It is the inverse of the same formula > > > 110 x 0.083333333333 = 9.17 > > 110 / 12 = 9.17 > > For me I can remember that there is 12 inches in a foot easier than > I can remember 0.0833333333 > > Boyd Young > MKIII C >


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    Time: 01:16:10 PM PST US
    From: gary aman <gaman@att.net>
    Subject: Re: My other hobby
    Rich, sent you a note. do not archive ________________________________ From: Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:19:04 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My other hobby John Out of your mouth (well your fingers), well I have to agree but from you never less surprised. I have had enough of winter!!! Two weeks and we will be heading for Florida. In spited of what our jetpilot says it isn't a IFR only state. Leaving the Kolb at home in Michigan again this winter. Do not archive Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: My other hobby > > Grant: > > Is that a replacement for the dastardly expensive, however well matched > and performing Kolb powerplant, the 912ULS? > > john h > Circleville, UT > > >> >> Its a Thunder Tiger pro 46 > > >




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