Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 02:10 AM - Re: The turn-back following engine failure article (pj.ladd)
2. 02:20 AM - Re: Beauford is the expert on VG's ! (pj.ladd)
3. 02:28 AM - Re: Re: What is your Altitude loss in a 180 degree turn? (pj.ladd)
4. 06:04 AM - Re: The turn-back following engine failure article (Jack B. Hart)
5. 07:39 AM - Re: Beauford is the expert on VG's ! (boyd)
6. 07:53 AM - Re: Beauford is the expert on VG's ! (russ kinne)
7. 08:09 AM - Re: Beauford is the expert on VG's ! (John Hauck)
8. 08:55 AM - JH's "Darned rat" vandal (Dave Kulp)
9. 09:09 AM - HKS engine (frank goodnight)
10. 09:18 AM - Re: HKS engine (frank goodnight)
11. 01:13 PM - Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (cristalclear13)
12. 01:33 PM - Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (grantr)
13. 02:40 PM - choke or primer (cristalclear13)
14. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (John Hauck)
15. 04:01 PM - Re: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (beauford T)
16. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (John Hauck)
17. 04:43 PM - Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (JetPilot)
18. 05:26 PM - Re: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (russ kinne)
19. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (Robert Laird)
20. 06:01 PM - Re: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (Bill Vincent)
21. 06:46 PM - trying a new prop (Jimmy Young)
22. 07:17 PM - Re: trying a new prop (Dana Hague)
23. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
24. 08:40 PM - Re: trying a new prop (Carlos)
25. 09:17 PM - Re: choke or primer (TheWanderingWench)
26. 09:48 PM - Re: trying a new prop (Mike Welch)
27. 11:24 PM - Re: trying a new prop (Larry Cottrell)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: The turn-back following engine failure article |
Just reposting the article for the list.>>
Thanks for that, Grant. Very good article.
I think there is a good case to be made that all pilots should start their
training in gliders. By the time they have gone solo they will have done
more take offs and landings and experienced more engine failures (cable
breaks) than the average power pilot will experience in his first 5 years
flying.
Just a thought
Pat
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Beauford is the expert on VG's ! |
Hi gang....These pictures rest my case...;-)>>
Great pics. Is the smoke generator part of the airodynamics test
programme?
Pat
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: What is your Altitude loss in a 180 degree turn? |
Not being able to afford a lawyer as good
as he could hire with his doctor's income, she lost the business>>
Hi Dana,
Life is damned unfair sometimes. Specially when litigation is involved. Sad
story
Pat
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: The turn-back following engine failure article |
At 10:10 AM 12/10/08 -0000, you wrote:
>
>I think there is a good case to be made that all pilots should start their
>training in gliders. By the time they have gone solo they will have done
>more take offs and landings and experienced more engine failures (cable
>breaks) than the average power pilot will experience in his first 5 years
>flying.
>
Pat,
I believe this is good advice. It helps to overcome the tendency to hold
back on the stick to extend a flight. I remember when I was solo and
realized what I thought at the time was too low and too far away to make it
back to the airport. I had to force my self to let the stick go forward so
that I could increase ground speed. I made it with altitude to spare, and
after that, I never had one time I never had any problems with letting the
stick go forward.
Simulated rope breaks were great, and one learned to drop the nose and kick
it around in a hurry. One advantage in a glider is that you did not have to
worry about the airspeed indicator, as you could gage air speed from the
wind noise.
With the FireFly, I have had only one 180 back to the landing strip. The
447 iced up on takeoff. At about 250 feet the engine started to droop and I
kicked it around and luckily made a down wind landing is spite of turning
down wind. The second engine droop came here in Indiana on a very hot day.
Even though I was at a much higher altitude, I did not elect to return to
the airport as the VSI indicated I was in an area of high sink. Instead, I
headed for a corn stalk field and landed cross wind in with the rows close
to a house and road.
These procedures can be practiced at altitude, so that you can experience
the sudden deceleration and discover the importance of pilot reaction time.
Also one can get comfortable with making a tight bank at fairly low speed
with the nose seemingly pointed at the ground and the gentle leveling of the
wings and pull up. Also, one should practice during cold and warm weather to
experience the different handling characteristics.
As someone else has said, it is all about good energy management.
Fly Safe!
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Beauford is the expert on VG's ! |
Hi gang....These pictures rest my case...;-)
Bill Vincent
DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
What case,,,,, that Beauford has a sense of humor? If I didn't have a
full enclosure I would do the same,,, just hate it when my brain / head
stalls.
Boyd
The infamous head stall,,, hate it when that happens. Ask me how I
know!!!!!!!! Sete smiling ear to ear
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Beauford is the expert on VG's ! |
What pictures? None came thru --
do not archive
On Dec 10, 2008, at 10:38 AM, boyd wrote:
> Hi gang....These pictures rest my case...;-)
> Bill Vincent
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>
> What case,,,,, that Beauford has a sense of humor? If I didn=92t
> have a full enclosure I would do the same,,, just hate it when my
> brain / head stalls.
>
> Boyd
>
> The infamous head stall,,, hate it when that happens. Ask me how I
> know!!!!!!!! Sete smiling ear to ear
>
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Beauford is the expert on VG's ! |
Russ:
That is because there were none attached to Boyd's email. I believe he was
referencing Bill Vincent's email, from yesterday, that did have some photo
s of Beauford in all his finest aviation regalia.
john h
mkIII - Watching the rain drops fall.
What pictures? None came thru --
do not archive
On Dec 10, 2008, at 10:38 AM, boyd wrote:
Hi gang....These pictures rest my case...;-)
Bill Vincent
DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
What case,,,,, that Beauford has a sense of humor? If I didn=92t ha
ve a full enclosure I would do the same,,, just hate it when my brain / h
ead stalls.
Boyd
The infamous head stall,,, hate it when that happens. Ask me how I kno
w!!!!!!!! Sete smiling ear to ear
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
--- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found ---
A message with no text/plain MIME section was received.
The entire body of the message was removed. Please
resend the email using Plain Text formatting.
HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section
in their client's default configuration. If you're using
HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings
and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text".
--- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found ---
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Hi =0A=0ASeems like several people are switching to HKS for the =0Afirestar
ll. I have 60 hrs on mine , I don't have any experance=0Awith any other en
gines so I can't compare preformance.=0AI do really like my instalation, so
far it has been trouble free.=0AI fly at gross wt. of 725 lbs. for every f
light, usally I am at 1000 ft.=0Awhen I cross the end of my 5000 ft runway.
So it seems to have =0Aplenty of power, <at least it has enough for me>.
=0A-The one thing I would change if I were to do it all again, I would re
serch the exaust and carb mounting. I used the up style , I understand ther
is a down style and maby one other type. The down style wont permit you to
mount a canister type BRS to the =0Atop of the cage.mine is slung under th
e cage I'm not sure thats the=0Abest place for it.=0AIf anyone thinking abo
ut , or is mounting a HKS I will gladly share=0Aany info I have, I don.t ha
ve any e mail pitcures.=0A=0AFrank Goodnight=0AF.S. ll - 55161=0A60 hrs.=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
------------------ =0A=0A=0A=0A________
________________________=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: ko
lb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:08:56 AM=0ASu
bject: Re: Kolb-List: Beauford is the expert on VG's !=0A=0A=0ARuss:=0A-
=0AThat is because there were none attached to Boyd's email.- I believe h
e was referencing Bill Vincent's email, from yesterday, that did have some
photos of Beauford in all his finest aviation regalia.=0A-=0Ajohn h=0AmkI
II - Watching the rain drops fall.=0A-=0A=0A=0AWhat pictures? None came t
hru -- =0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0AOn Dec 10, 2008, at 10:38 AM, boyd wrote:
=0A=0AHi gang....These pictures rest my case...;-)=0ABill Vincent=0ADO NOT
ARCHIVE--=0A>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.=0AWhat case,,,,,- that Beauford
has a sense of humor?--- If I didn=A2t have a full enclosure I would
do the same,,,-- just hate it when my brain / head stalls.=0ABoyd=0AThe
infamous head stall,,, hate it when that happens.- Ask me how I know!!!!
=====================0A
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Hi =0AI mment to say the up style exhaust for the HKS wont permit the =0Aca
nister BRS to be mounted on top of the cage. =0ASorry for the confusion.=0A
do not archive.=0A=0AFrank Goodnight=0AFS ll - 55161=0A60 hrs.=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: frank goodnight <frank.goodnigh
t@att.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, December 10, 20
08 11:09:45 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: HKS engine=0A=0A=0AHi =0A=0ASeems like
several people are switching to HKS for the =0Afirestar ll. I have 60 hrs
on mine , I don't have any experance=0Awith any other engines so I can't co
mpare preformance.=0AI do really like my instalation, so far it has been tr
ouble free.=0AI fly at gross wt. of 725 lbs. for every flight, usally I am
at 1000 ft.=0Awhen I cross the end of my 5000 ft runway. So it seems to hav
e =0Aplenty of power, <at least it has enough for me>.=0A-The one thing I
would change if I were to do it all again, I would reserch the exaust and
carb mounting. I used the up style , I understand ther is a down style and
maby one other type. The down style wont permit you to mount a canister typ
e BRS to the =0Atop of the cage.mine is slung under the cage I'm not sure t
hats the=0Abest place for it.=0AIf anyone thinking about , or is mounting a
HKS I will gladly share=0Aany info I have, I don.t have any e mail pitcure
s.=0A=0AFrank Goodnight=0AF.S. ll - 55161=0A60 hrs.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A-----------------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
-------------------------
----------- =0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________________
___=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com
=0ASent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:08:56 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List:
Beauford is the expert on VG's !=0A=0A=0ARuss:=0A-=0AThat is because the
re were none attached to Boyd's email.- I believe he was referencing Bill
Vincent's email, from yesterday, that did have some photos of Beauford in
all his finest aviation regalia.=0A-=0Ajohn h=0AmkIII - Watching the rain
drops fall.=0A-=0A=0A=0AWhat pictures? None came thru -- =0Ado not archi
ve=0A=0A=0AOn Dec 10, 2008, at 10:38 AM, boyd wrote:=0A=0AHi gang....These
pictures rest my case...;-)=0ABill Vincent=0ADO NOT ARCHIVE--=0A>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.=0AWhat case,,,,,- that Beauford has a sense of humor?
--- If I didn=A2t have a full enclosure I would do the same,,,--
just hate it when my brain / head stalls.=0ABoyd=0AThe infamous head stall,
,, hate it when that happens.- Ask me how I know!!!!!!!!--- --S
ete --smiling ear to ear=0A-=0Ahttp://www.matronics.comavigator?Kolb-
List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.comrums.matronics
.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics====
=================0A
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
undoctor wrote:
>
> > [b]Went over to Gantt International Airport anyhow. Decided to drag the strip
> > and smooth out the cow pies. While I was down by the hanger I checked
out
> > my bird. Darned rat has been back in it while I was on my trip. He
ate t
> > he right shoulder harness. Cut'em right off the bulkhead. Also got
the ri
> > ght seatbelt. Looks like it went through a buzz saw. While he was at
it,
> > he or she checked out a couple wires. Cut the 12vdc wires to my ANR
headse
> > t and my Chillie Vest. That is all I could find damaged. Hopefully,
he di
> > dn't get back in places and cut wires and hydraulic brake lines like
he did
> > a couple years ago.
> > [/b]
>
>
>
> John, gang,
>
> Here's the Kolb part. I learned that if you sprinkle moth balls on the floor
around any place the mice can access your vehicle, they won't go through the
smell and your vehicle's safe. Of course the down side is enduring the smell
of the moth balls. Without regard to the imminent risk of folks asking the age-old
burning question, "Do you know how to smell moth balls?", this info could
prevent a lot of mice from trespassing on a lot of Kolbs.
>
John,
Does this mean the valerian didn't work or did the smell/effect wear off while
you were roaming the countryside?
Thanks,
Cristal
--------
Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218741#218741
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
Last year,
I had a similar situation where a rats or a few got under the hood of my truck
and cut a few wires to the computer shorting it out. They had a massive amount
of figs piles high on my intake cover. The truck was running a 6 cylinders barely
and the ABS system failed.
I had to have the ABS and computer replace at a cost of $1200.
Shortly after this they got back in a cut my alternator wire twice. 1st time I
had to be pulled 16 miles to a shop to have a new wire made since it was cut right
at the connector.
2nd time i made it back home and the truck died in the yard. Wire was easy to fix
this time.
This year I killed 9 mice in my attic. I have no Idea how they got there.
The cheap victor snap traps with peanut butter on them will kill them 99% of the
time.
Moth balls don't work that well. They still get in my landlords vehicle despite
him putting mothballs around the truck. He has to leave the hood open with mothballs
on the engine to keep them out.
If you don't have pets, Timick (spelling?) a granular pesticide used by farmers
will kill the rats almost instantly. It is however very toxic and potent in
smell.
I keep my Kolb in a 8.5X 24 foot Haulmark car hauler. No rats can get it it!
You can alway install a cat in your hangar. They are pretty efficient rat killers
if you don't over feed them.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218743#218743
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Hi all. I got the mouse nest out of my tube, cleaned up the corrosion, finished
my annual inspection and re-mounted my Rotax after Gerry Olenik from Green Sky
Adventures did some maintenance on it for me. I have seen several brag on
him so I will also brag. He did a great job, was very knowledgeable and helpful.
With the help of a friend we determined that my choke has not been closing all
the way. If I manually move the cable back where it splits into the two cables
it'll close and run fine. My friend suggested doing away with the choke and
just using a priming system. I've gotten used to the choke and am thinking perhaps
I could just replace the cables.
P.S. Gave my dad a quick ride around the pattern and he LOVED it of course. What
fun!
--------
Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218755#218755
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
> John,
> Does this mean the valerian didn't work or did the smell/effect wear off
> while you were roaming the countryside?
>
> Thanks,
> Cristal
Cristal:
Don't know. I probably should have dumped the whole bottle of valerian
capsules in the boom tube, sprinkled several boxes of moth balls around the
tailwheel, main wheels, and some inside.
Not a good feeling to open the door and see your airplane chewed up.
Especially the second time around. ;-(
I put out two big sticky pads for rats, some Decon rat poison, and a box of
moth balls in front of and below the boom tube inside the cockpit. Hope it
works before I have my seat belts and shoulder harnesses replaced.
john h
mkIII - Slightly chewed on.
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
Victor also makes an electronic rat assasination machine... they sell them
at
Home Depot and Lowes... is a black plastic box with what amounts to the
electronic
guts of a Taser built into it...runs on 4 xC cells... you smear a little
peanut butter
on the back wall... to reach the peanut butter the prospect has to step
across two
metal plates wired into the floor... the big 'ol capacitor then discharges
and blows his
(or her) little rat head off...
I don't have the rat size device...I bought the mouse size... the guy
wearing the black
hood selling these things said the rat item makes a satisfying crack like a
.22 short when it fires...
and if one hurries, the corpse is still smoking when one opens the top..
Given the fact that you have a score to settle with the varmits, might be
worth sitting around
one evening and reloading it a few times... also has a LED on top which
gives the status
of the batteries, warns of armed condition, and tell when there has been a
kill.
One could place it, or a couple of them, right in the floor of the Kolb...
bloodthirsty beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:33 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal
Last year,
I had a similar situation where a rats or a few got under the hood of my
truck and cut a few wires to the computer shorting it out. They had a
massive amount of figs piles high on my intake cover. The truck was running
a 6 cylinders barely and the ABS system failed.
I had to have the ABS and computer replace at a cost of $1200.
Shortly after this they got back in a cut my alternator wire twice. 1st time
I had to be pulled 16 miles to a shop to have a new wire made since it was
cut right at the connector.
2nd time i made it back home and the truck died in the yard. Wire was easy
to fix this time.
This year I killed 9 mice in my attic. I have no Idea how they got there.
The cheap victor snap traps with peanut butter on them will kill them 99% of
the time.
Moth balls don't work that well. They still get in my landlords vehicle
despite him putting mothballs around the truck. He has to leave the hood
open with mothballs on the engine to keep them out.
If you don't have pets, Timick (spelling?) a granular pesticide used by
farmers will kill the rats almost instantly. It is however very toxic and
potent in smell.
I keep my Kolb in a 8.5X 24 foot Haulmark car hauler. No rats can get it
it!
You can alway install a cat in your hangar. They are pretty efficient rat
killers if you don't over feed them.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218743#218743
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
> Victor also makes an electronic rat assasination machine >
> bloodthirsty beauford
Beauford:
I like that idea.
Gonna got to Lowes tomorrow and see if I can find me one of them. Put it
right by the tailwheel. I am sure they are getting in the airplane via
tailwheel and tailboom.
john h
mkIII
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
I have one of those electronic mouse killers. I had a medium sized mouse that
I was trying to kill, and put a camera by the trap. He went in, got zapped, jumped
back out and never went near it again.
The electronic Rat Killer is a great idea, its just not strong enough to work all
the time.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218783#218783
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
List
FWIW - rats & mice W ILL get 'in' anywhere, no matter what you put up
as a barrier. Most often the tailwheel area. Electric zappers do
work, but get the biggest one you can. It would be fairly easy to
make one self-resetting; there was one like that a long time ago.
Shoved the dead ones over into a sealed & concealed container &
readied itself for the next one. Rats are smart-- if they see a dead
one they may stay away.
Rat/mouse urine is very corrosive to alum. Most expensive to repair
too.
Peanut butter is a good bait. But if you use a Havahart trap with a
1/2" wire mesh, mice will enter, trip it, eat the bait & then squeeze
out thru the 1/2"mesh.
I had a boa constrictor as a pet for years, NO mice/rats in the
house. But I realize that's not a solution for everyone.
Good luck.
PS Don't let them get near Viagra! -- no telling what would happen.
On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:09 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> > Victor also makes an electronic rat assasination machine >
>
>> bloodthirsty beauford
>
>
> Beauford:
>
> I like that idea.
>
> Gonna got to Lowes tomorrow and see if I can find me one of them.
> Put it right by the tailwheel. I am sure they are getting in the
> airplane via tailwheel and tailboom.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
Ok, here's my solution... worked EVERY time.... Got a large
bucket... really large, and tall... made of plastic so the sides were
slippery... Bucket has to be big enough and deep enough for about at
least 8 inches of water, 8 inches between the water and the rim, and
slippery enough so a mouse/rat can't climb out.
I stuck a chair next to the bucket, filled the bucket half way with
water, put a 2x4 that went out over the bucket and then put a weight
on the 2x4 so it became, essentially a steady diving board.
Then I took a 6" x 6" piece of plywood, put it on the water, then put
on it a couple of bits of dry dog food... the really smelly kind.
The mice/rats would climb out on the diving board, drop down to the
plywood to get the dog food, the plywood would immediately tump over,
and the mouse/rat would swim to exhaustion and drown. Obviously,
making sure the mouse/rat can't climb back out is critical, as is
making sure the water level/plywood is far enough away so they -have-
to drop down to to get it.
Worked flawlessly, every time. I once got rid of a whole family that
way, one each day.
-- R
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:25 PM, russ kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com> wrote:
>
> List
> FWIW - rats & mice W ILL get 'in' anywhere, no matter what you put up as a
> barrier. Most often the tailwheel area. Electric zappers do work, but get
> the biggest one you can. It would be fairly easy to make one
> self-resetting; there was one like that a long time ago. Shoved the dead
> ones over into a sealed & concealed container & readied itself for the next
> one. Rats are smart-- if they see a dead one they may stay away.
> Rat/mouse urine is very corrosive to alum. Most expensive to repair too.
> Peanut butter is a good bait. But if you use a Havahart trap with a 1/2"
> wire mesh, mice will enter, trip it, eat the bait & then squeeze out thru
> the 1/2"mesh.
> I had a boa constrictor as a pet for years, NO mice/rats in the house. But I
> realize that's not a solution for everyone.
> Good luck.
> PS Don't let them get near Viagra! -- no telling what would happen.
>
> On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:09 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > Victor also makes an electronic rat assasination machine >
>>
>>> bloodthirsty beauford
>>
>>
>>
>> Beauford:
>>
>> I like that idea.
>>
>> Gonna got to Lowes tomorrow and see if I can find me one of them. Put it
>> right by the tailwheel. I am sure they are getting in the airplane via
>> tailwheel and tailboom.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
Hi Gang
When I used to have my old T-Bird I saw a mouse jump out of the tip of
my wing while I was Taxing.
Since then I always put moth balls around my Firestar but I think the
mice like to eat them.
A few years ago I had a Pine snake in my hangar which was good because I
didn't see any mice around ... but...I was always afraid the snake would
be coming out of the tail boom while I was flying; so I always checked
the tail boom with a flashlight before I took off.
Someone on the List said to use Bounce strips to keep the mice away, I
had them scattered around the plane and in the plane; not sure if they
really worked.
Bill Vincent
Do Not Archive
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | trying a new prop |
Kolbers,
I got a new prop delivered today from Valley Engineering. I hope to
put it on Saturday and if the weather is cooperative I plan to fly.
In my last post I mentioned my plane handled "superb". I need to re-
qualify that remark...it still has marginal climb out performance with
my new Generac engine. It's about half what my old 503 had, at best
about 400 fpm, but probably the average is more like 300. I'd call
that marginal at best. I currently have an IVO 72" 3 blade, set so I
get about 3700 rpm on take-off WOT. Once I'm up to cruise altitude, it
does handle and perform the same as it always did, with the exception
of the climb rate.
The new prop is a 78" 2 blade Culver Prop, pitched at 41. I'll still
have a good 2 1/4" from the tip to the boom tube. I'm going to also
change the spacer from a 3" to a 1 3/4" spacer, since the new prop is
2 1/4" thick at the hub and the IVO is only 1" thick. That should be a
better set up for maintaining prop balance since the prop will be
closer to the engine, and will still keep the prop tips 3 3/4" from my
aileron tubes. The larger spacer was used to allow for the clearance
required between the prop and the aileron tubes for the IVO, which has
a lot of flex. I have a prop thrust tester I can use, and I plan to
check the IVO on a static run up, record the thrust, then change out
to the new prop and see what it produces on a static run up.
I have a question to throw out there for review. If one prop produces
more static run up thrust than another, regardless of whether it is a
2 or 3 blade prop, would it not therefore be a better all around
performing prop in both climb and cruise? If the new prop, which is
not ground-adjustable like the IVO is, allows the engine to reach 3700
RPM on a static run up test, which is where the max HP and torque
values meet on the Generac engine, and if it produces more thrust at
that RPM level, it seems to me it would out-perform the IVO in both
climb out and cruise.
I know no one here know much about the engine I'm using, but wouldn't
these facts hold true for any engine/prop combination?
Thanks for any input,
Jimmy Young
FS II, Houston TX
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: trying a new prop |
At 09:45 PM 12/10/2008, Jimmy Young wrote:
>I have a question to throw out there for review. If one prop produces
>more static run up thrust than another, regardless of whether it is a
>2 or 3 blade prop, would it not therefore be a better all around
>performing prop in both climb and cruise?
No, it might, but it's just as likely to be worse. A prop has to be
optimized for a particular airspeed, which is why we have "climb" props
which are less efficient at cruise speed, and "cruise" props which don't
climb as well but are more efficient during cruise. Or it could be a
compromise. A prop that's optimized for static thrust would have lousy
cruise (and even climb) performance. Taken to the extreme, consider a
helicopter rotor... it's optimized for static thrust but would make poor
(if any) thrust if used as a prop at 60 mph.
-Dana
--
I support drug testing. I believe every public official should be given a
shot of sodium pentathol and asked "Which laws have you broken this week?".
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: JH's "Darned rat" vandal |
That's funny, the mice don't even want to fly with you
:o)
Ellery
do not archive
In a message dated 12/10/2008 9:02:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
emailbill@chartermi.net writes:
When I used to have my old T-Bird I saw a mouse jump out of the tip of my
wing while I was Taxing
**************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and
favorite sites in one place. Try it now.
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: trying a new prop |
Hi Jimmy,
Oh I think you are going to open up a can of worms here.
Static thrust is only a partial measure of how a prop may perform. Another
part is velocity of the same air. Basically you could have a huge amount of
thrust by swinging a twelve foot diameter prop that the engine is properly
geared for but, you would have such low velocity that a plane would never
gain enough speed to get off the ground.
It is finding the proper balance between engine speed, thrust and velocity
that has to overcome the weight and drag of the airframe to make a good
flying plane.
Basically, I think that your performance issue is a lack of horsepower. It
takes power to lift anything into the air rapidly. Once the plane has
reached a steady cruise, power is typically reduce for economy and
conservation of engine life.
You might have to re-pitch the prop so that on the ground you might be below
peak rpm/torque but, once the engine unloads in the air, the peak torque is
reached. Usually though most people pitch their props for maximum horsepower
and that is usually at a higher rpm than peak torque.
Oh there are so many trade-offs! Basically you are going to have to find
whats best for your application by good ol' trial and error. Two blades are
more efficient than three. One blade is best but, has its own practical
problems of balance issues to say the least. Good luck with the plane and
please be careful.
Carlos G.
Just My $0.02
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: trying a new prop
>
> Kolbers,
>
> I got a new prop delivered today from Valley Engineering. I hope to put
> it on Saturday and if the weather is cooperative I plan to fly.
>
> In my last post I mentioned my plane handled "superb". I need to re-
> qualify that remark...it still has marginal climb out performance with my
> new Generac engine. It's about half what my old 503 had, at best about
> 400 fpm, but probably the average is more like 300. I'd call that
> marginal at best. I currently have an IVO 72" 3 blade, set so I it > does
> handle and perform the same as it always did, with the exception of the
> climb rate.
>
> The new prop is a 78" 2 blade Culver Prop, pitched at 41. I'll still have
> a good 2 1/4" from the tip to the boom tube. I'm going to also change the
> spacer from a 3" to a 1 3/4" spacer, since the new prop is 2 1/4" thick
> at the hub and the IVO is only 1" thick. That should be a better set up
> for maintaining prop balance since the prop will be closer to the engine,
> and will still keep the prop tips 3 3/4" from my aileron tubes. The
> larger spacer was used to allow for the clearance required between the
> prop and the aileron tubes for the IVO, which has a lot of flex. I have a
> prop thrust tester I can use, and I plan to check the IVO on a static run
> up, record the thrust, then change out to the new prop and see what it
> produces on a static run up.
>
> I have a question to throw out there for review. If one prop produces
> more static run up thrust than another, regardless of whether it is a 2
> or 3 blade prop, would it not therefore be a better all around performing
> prop in both climb and cruise? If the new prop, which is not
> ground-adjustable like the IVO is, allows the engine to reach 3700 RPM on
> a static run up test, which is where the max HP and torque values meet on
> the Generac engine, and if it produces more thrust at that RPM level, it
> seems to me it would out-perform the IVO in both climb out and cruise.
>
> I know no one here know much about the engine I'm using, but wouldn't
> these facts hold true for any engine/prop combination?
>
> Thanks for any input,
>
> Jimmy Young
> FS II, Houston TX
>
>
>
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: choke or primer |
Hi Cristal,
I removed the choke on my 503 a few years ago and have been using just the primer,
without any difficulty. However, I did read somewhere that you can troubleshoot
your engine via the choke (don't remember the details) so am not sure if
I did the wisest thing - although, as I said, it's been fine for several years
and several hundred hours without it.
Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon
Maxair Drifter
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
--- On Wed, 12/10/08, cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: choke or primer
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 2:39 PM
> "cristalclear13"
> <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
>
> Hi all. I got the mouse nest out of my tube, cleaned up
> the corrosion, finished my annual inspection and re-mounted
> my Rotax after Gerry Olenik from Green Sky Adventures did
> some maintenance on it for me. I have seen several brag on
> him so I will also brag. He did a great job, was very
> knowledgeable and helpful.
>
> With the help of a friend we determined that my choke has
> not been closing all the way. If I manually move the cable
> back where it splits into the two cables it'll close and
> run fine. My friend suggested doing away with the choke and
> just using a priming system. I've gotten used to the
> choke and am thinking perhaps I could just replace the
> cables.
>
> P.S. Gave my dad a quick ride around the pattern and he
> LOVED it of course. What fun!
>
> --------
> Cristal Waters
> Kolb Mark II Twinstar
> Rotax 503 DCSI
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218755#218755
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 26
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | trying a new prop |
> I have a question to throw out there for review. If one prop produces
> more static run up thrust than another, regardless of whether it is a
> 2 or 3 blade prop, would it not therefore be a better all around
> performing prop in both climb and cruise?
> Jimmy Young
> FS II, Houston TX
Jimmy,
For the problems you've discussed, these are the reasons why I opted for the
in-flight adjustable, electric motor option, for my Ivo Prop.
I expect it should give the best of both worlds. At static thrust I can decrease
pitch
substantially, allowing the engine to acheive a higher RPM (into the power band).
Once I'm cruising along, I can crank in quite a bit of pitch, for better dynamic
thrust.
Although I haven't flown with this combination, yet. I have had it operational
a few
years ago. It was quite impressive to me. The pitch change is quite subtantial,
and takes
maybe 7-10 seconds to go from a flat pitch to really steep.
Although this combination may not be for everyone, it seems like a good way to
go for me.
Mike Welch
MkIII
_________________________________________________________________
You live life online. So we put Windows on the web.
Message 27
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: trying a new prop |
It depends on how he has the plane registered. If EAB he can use it,
other wise no.
Larry C
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Welch
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: trying a new prop
> I have a question to throw out there for review. If one prop
produces
> more static run up thrust than another, regardless of whether it is
a
> 2 or 3 blade prop, would it not therefore be a better all around
> performing prop in both climb and cruise?
> Jimmy Young
> FS II, Houston TX
Jimmy,
For the problems you've discussed, these are the reasons why I opted
for the
in-flight adjustable, electric motor option, for my Ivo Prop.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|