---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/19/08: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:52 AM - Re: Engine Installation (icrashrc) 2. 05:08 AM - Re: parts needed for sync of dual carbs (zeprep251@aol.com) 3. 05:53 AM - Re: Update (grantr) 4. 05:57 AM - Re: Video Camcorder Editing Help. (grantr) 5. 05:59 AM - Re: What is your Altitude loss in a 180 degree turn? (grantr) 6. 07:34 AM - Re: rats inc (beauford) 7. 07:39 AM - Re: Rats Inc. (robert bean) 8. 07:56 AM - Re: Rats Inc. (Ed Chmielewski) 9. 08:00 AM - Re: rats inc (russ kinne) 10. 08:08 AM - Re: 3D (Robert Laird) 11. 08:12 AM - Re: rats inc (herb) 12. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Ultrastar: How to take-off (pj.ladd) 13. 08:44 AM - MKII Dimensions for trailer (gliderx5@comcast.net) 14. 10:26 AM - Re: Update (jb92563) 15. 01:45 PM - Re: Rats Inc. (zeprep251@aol.com) 16. 01:54 PM - From Lockwood Aviation Re: oil and fuel (TheWanderingWench) 17. 02:17 PM - Re: Rats Inc. (russ kinne) 18. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Ultrastar: How to take-off (russ kinne) 19. 02:28 PM - Re: Rats Inc. (possums) 20. 05:11 PM - Re: From Lockwood Aviation Re: oil and fuel (Dana Hague) 21. 06:04 PM - Re: From Lockwood Aviation Re: oil and fuel (robert bean) 22. 06:30 PM - Schedule vacation for MV 2009 (John Bickham) 23. 07:12 PM - Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 (John Hauck) 24. 09:07 PM - Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 (Larry Cottrell) 25. 09:34 PM - Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 (John Bickham) 26. 09:40 PM - Re: Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:32 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Engine Installation From: "icrashrc" Mike, I'm tempted to ignore your request after the way you welcomed me to this list when i joined. In the end i've decided to be a better person than you. It wasn't too difficult... I started with the 912 installation kit from Travis @ Kolb. All the unique mounting hardware was fabricated in house. The fitted coolant hoses came from Autozone. I will add more detail to the engine installation page in the next few days. JetPilot wrote: > Scott, > > I really like what you did with the radiators on your Kolb, I have always thought about moving my radiators away from behind the cage, and putting a sharp V aluminum fairing back there like John H has. I was just not sure where to move the radiators to... On front of the engine would be almost no drag, and keep clean air in the prop. Where did you get the hardware to mount the radiators on the front of the engine ? I looked at your pictures, could you post a few pictures showing more of the mounting details ? > > Mike -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220110#220110 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: parts needed for sync of dual carbs From: zeprep251@aol.com Carb sockets from rotax just don't hold up .The JBM rubber sockets, boots replaced the originals at 150 hrs and were still on it and in good working order when I sold it at 600+ hrs, plus they cost less!? 503DCDI. ??????????????????????????????????????????? G.Aman mk3-C Jabiru 2200 400hrs -----Original Message----- From: Richard Girard Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:18 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: parts needed for sync of dual carbs Yeah, Larry I did it. two inexpensive vacuum gauges @ $20 + two inline valves @ 10 + plus fittings and lines $10 to $15 depending on application. + shipping. Who said it was a one time thing? After I got my carbs set the CHT's and EGT's were dead even at all times 5 degree spread for the CHT's and 25 for the EGT's, but always in that range. When the carb boots started to leak the temp spreads grew. I went back to the vacuum gauges to get a reading and reset. Temp spread grew again. Time to look elsewhere. Found rotted carb sockets. Even if you don't use it as a diagnostic tool, what about every annual? Having balanced carbs is paramount for the best fuel economy and engine performance, why would you not include it as an item on your annual? Rick On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: I notice that Lockwood has a dual carb sync kit for around $79.00, Seems like a lot of money for a one time use. Would it be worthwhile to build one from available parts? Any body done it? ? Minus 6 this morning. BRRRRRR Larry C ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:58 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Update From: "grantr" John, I started having the same problem with them licking the peanut butter off. I found a way to fix that. Get a jar of roasted peanuts and take a half peanut and push it through the trigger mechanism between the catch for the rod and the bait holder. You need a nut that is a little big then push it through. This will shave off part of it so it fits snug. Then put peanut butter on it. The mouse will lick of the PB and then it will get greedy and try to get the nut and pow! I caught two tiny ones on mouse traps with this method. Are you using Victor traps which have the brass colored metal trigger catch? These are the best snap traps. The Black Cats from Lowes with the plastic trigger that looks like cheese are terrible. They will not snap if I touch the trigger. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220122#220122 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:11 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Video Camcorder Editing Help. From: "grantr" Thanks everyone, I downloaded Video Spin by Pinnacle for free and I really like it. Its very easy to use and does what I need it to do. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220123#220123 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:22 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: What is your Altitude loss in a 180 degree turn? From: "grantr" John, Did you get a chance to see what your altitude loss was with the engine off? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220125#220125 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:21 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: rats inc From: "beauford" Rats... When Beauford was a kid, fresh out of the state home and they hid stuff so I was no longer able to get access to my sister's dolls to disfigure and mutilate them, my interest turned to rats. We had tons of them out in the dairy barn, but my Pa got tired of me ricocheting .22 rounds out through the lower walls of the barn... The device shown in the attachment was the result... I did not conceive of this thing, I had seen one in use on another farm. It is cheap, easy to make, and has no moving parts except the rat....and believe 'ol Beauford, the rats some kinda move when they hop on this sucker. I have seen 'em literally bang off an 8 foot ceiling over this thing. You haven't lived until you have seen a smoking rat executing a ballistic trajectory all the way across the room. Anyway, this is cheap and scalable if the sportsman wants to specialize in mice... a 2 inch broomhandle works very well for them. One thing, though -- it's a tad rough on kids, dogs, cats, cows, etc... I recommend you employ it in places where you won't get too many of 'em... Do Not Archive. beauford FF-76 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220139#220139 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ratlaunch_410.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:40 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rats Inc. I will be sending a check immediately drawn on my Madoff Investor's account. BB On 18, Dec 2008, at 8:16 PM, possums wrote: > At 10:08 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: > >> >> So far it is rats - 3 and me - 0. That have tripped the rat traps >> three times, liked the peanut butter off clean, without getting >> caught. > > > Dear Investors, > This is of the utmost urgency. The following is the "sleeper of all > sleepers." Please send your check in the amount of $50,000 > immediately. We are limiting each participant to one unit. You can > understand after reading this once in a lifetime offer. > > A group of us are considering investing in a large cat ranch near > Hermosillo, Mexico. It is our purpose to start rather small with > about one million cats. Each cat averages about twelve kittens a > year; skins can be sold for about 20 cents for the white ones and > up to 40 cents for the black. This will give us twelve million cat > skins per year to sell at an average price of around 32 cents, > making our gross revenue about $3 million a year. This really > averages out to about $10,000 a day (excluding Sundays and > holidays, of course). > > A good Mexican cat man can skin about 50 cats each day, at a wage > of $13.15 a day. It will take 663 men to operate the ranch, so the > net profit would be over $8,200 per day. Your $50,000 investment > would be recovered in 6.1 days, which beats the stock market don't > ya know. > > Now, the cats would be fed on rats exclusively. Rats multiply four > times faster than cats. We would start a rat ranch adjacent to our > cat farm for the rats. If we start with a million rats, we will > have four rats per cat per day. The rats will be fed on the > carcasses of the cats that we skin. This will give each rat a > quarter of a cat. You can see by this that the business is a clean > operation; self-supporting and really automatic throughout. The > cats will eat the rats and the rats will eat the cats and we will > get the skins > Time is of the essence. Any hesitation on your part would be sheer > disaster. Become a millionaire with us through knowledgeable > investments. > > Send your cashier's check today to: > > Possums Inc. > Kennesaw, > Georgia, USA, Earth > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:32 AM PST US From: "Ed Chmielewski" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rats Inc. Sounds good. Count me in as well. As soon as I hear from the Nigerians. Ed in JXN Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: robert bean To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rats Inc. I will be sending a check immediately drawn on my Madoff Investor's account. BB On 18, Dec 2008, at 8:16 PM, possums wrote: At 10:08 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: So far it is rats - 3 and me - 0. That have tripped the rat traps three times, liked the peanut butter off clean, without getting caught. Dear Investors, This is of the utmost urgency. The following is the "sleeper of all sleepers." Please send your check in the amount of $50,000 immediately. We are limiting each participant to one unit. You can understand after reading this once in a lifetime offer. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:12 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: rats inc Larry That's a good way to set a snap-trap; must cover the pan with newspaper or whatever to keep dirt out. I've put a trap under 2" of cracked corn in the bottom of a deep galv. steel pail where they have to jump down into it. Chained trap to handle. Never missed. If you can see their runways, and there's a spot where they jump down from one level to another, put a sheet of flypaper over their landing spot. Works, but you'll hear the worst blood-curdling screams ever! I've watched rats climb up and over & around a trap set on a rafter walkway; they may be smart but can't change direction in midair. Tough time of year to finish an aircraft & then the wx wont let you fly it! Good luck, Merry Xmas, Russ On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > Hi, > A little advice from a "never failed yet" trapper. If the rats > are licking the P Butter from the pan, there are two ways to handle > it. Firstly it may not be rats, it may be mice that are not heavy > enough to trip the trap. I would put lots of mouse traps around or > a live trap that will take care of the little ones. The other thing > you can do is to dig enough ground out to bury the trap. It would > need to be by a wall where you could hang your bait high enough > that the rat would have to stretch to reach the bait. You, I assume > have a steel trap with a pan, if so tear off a small piece of cloth > and lay over the trigger and pan, but not over the jaws. The idea > is to keep the dirt from sifting under the pan and keep the trap > from springing. Sift the dirt over the jaws just enough to conceal > the trap, but the bare minimum necessary to hide it. What you are > trying to do is to lure the rat into walking up to the wall and > trying to reach the food that is dangling just out of reach, thus > stepping into a trap that it does not know is there. Rats generally > run along walls and natural corridors, so even if they don't smell > the bait, (unlikely) they have a chance to step into the trap. If > there are isolated points of entrance bury a trap there. If they > run the walls, such as on a 2x4, place a trap there where they > can't avoid it. > > Karen and I put the wings on the Firestar today, wind is howling, > cold as a well diggers butt! > Larry C ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:35 AM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 3D 3D is the hexadecimal number in the ASCII table for the "equal sign" character, i.e. "=".... It's typically used in text emails to attempt to simulate borders. Some email processes reject the translation of "3D" into "=", and thus you see a lot of 3D's. -- Robert On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:38 PM, william sullivan wrote: > Russ- The 3D work is Matt's, not mine. It shows up on a few of us- and the > Rotax List. > > Bill Sullivan > Windsor Locks, Ct. > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:30 AM PST US From: herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: rats inc Looks as if "Rats" is now running third to Sea Foam and Vortex Generators... Herb At 09:57 AM 12/19/2008, you wrote: >Larry >That's a good way to set a snap-trap; must cover the pan with >newspaper or whatever to keep dirt out. I've put a trap under 2" of >cracked corn in the bottom of a deep galv. steel pail where they >have to jump down into it. Chained trap to handle. Never missed. >If you can see their runways, and there's a spot where they jump >down from one level to another, put a sheet of flypaper over their >landing spot. >Works, but you'll hear the worst blood-curdling screams ever! I've >watched rats climb up and over & around a trap set on a rafter >walkway; they may be smart but can't change direction in midair. >Tough time of year to finish an aircraft & then the wx wont let you fly it! >Good luck, Merry Xmas, >Russ > > >On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > >>Hi, >> A little advice from a "never failed yet" trapper. If the rats >> are licking the P Butter from the pan, there are two ways to >> handle it. Firstly it may not be rats, it may be mice that are not >> heavy enough to trip the trap. I would put lots of mouse traps >> around or a live trap that will take care of the little ones. The >> other thing you can do is to dig enough ground out to bury the >> trap. It would need to be by a wall where you could hang your bait >> high enough that the rat would have to stretch to reach the bait. >> You, I assume have a steel trap with a pan, if so tear off a small >> piece of cloth and lay over the trigger and pan, but not over the >> jaws. The idea is to keep the dirt from sifting under the pan and >> keep the trap from springing. Sift the dirt over the jaws just >> enough to conceal the trap, but the bare minimum necessary to hide >> it. What you are trying to do is to lure the rat into walking up >> to the wall and trying to reach the food that is dangling just out >> of reach, thus stepping into a trap that it does not know is >> there. Rats generally run along walls and natural corridors, so >> even if they don't smell the bait, (unlikely) they have a chance >> to step into the trap. If there are isolated points of entrance >> bury a trap there. If they run the walls, such as on a 2x4, place >> a trap there where they can't avoid it. >> >> Karen and I put the wings on the Firestar today, wind is >> howling, cold as a well diggers butt! >>Larry C >> >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:22 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Ultrastar: How to take-off Apparently Pat hadn't found it in various posts, >> Hi, I found it. I found it, and every single person on the list told me what I was to old and stupid to remember. Thanks everybody Pat ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:10 AM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Kolb-List: MKII Dimensions for trailer Just an FYI for anyone looking at a MKII. I couldn't find these numbers when I was looking at MKIIs. I wanted to know the folded dimensions so that I could consider trailer options. Here are the folded dimensions of my MKII, with a 503 and 3 blade prop. Overall length - 270" Nose to back of wheels - 68" Nose to prop - 114" Outside wheel to outside wheel - 68" wheel height - 14" Prop height - 77" Prop width (at top) - 59" Width at wings - 28" Tail height - 69" Anyone else care to offer up other Kolb model dimensions? P.S. I will have my enclosed trailer for sale in a month or so as I am outfitting new one. Malcolm Morrison MKII ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:30 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Update From: "jb92563" Those varmits are obviously the genetically altered terrorist rats seeing as how they purposely disabled your plane and have counter measures for birdshot, immunity to rat poison and are cunning enough to avoid traps. However, I think the solution to the rats sabotaging your plane is obvious. Since they gingerly lick the peanut butter off the trap trigger then just use their cunning habit to your advantage. Coat your plane and wiring in peanut butter! [Laughing] -------- Ray Kolb UltraStar (Cuyuna UL-202) Moni MotorGlider Schreder HP-11 Glider Grob 109 Motorglider Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220168#220168 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rats Inc. From: zeprep251@aol.com You may think possum came up with this on his own,but I THINK I saw this on the Rat-list a couple months back. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: robert bean Sent: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 7:36 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rats Inc. I will be sending a check immediately drawn on my Madoff Investor's account. BB On 18, Dec 2008, at 8:16 PM, possums wrote: At 10:08 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: ? So far it is rats - 3 and me - 0.? That have tripped the rat traps three times, liked the peanut butter off clean, without getting caught. Dear Investors, This is of the utmost urgency. The following is the "sleeper of all sleepers." Please send your check in the amount of $50,000 immediately. We are limiting each participant to one unit. You can understand after reading this once in a lifetime offer. A group of us are considering investing in a large cat ranch near Hermosillo, Mexico. It is our purpose to start rather small with about one million cats. Each cat averages about twelve kittens a year; skins can be sold for about 20 cents for the white ones and up to 40 cents for the black. This will give us twelve million cat skins per year to sell at an average price of around 32 cents, making our gross revenue about $3 million a year. This really averages out to about $10,000 a day (excluding Sundays and holidays, of course). A good Mexican cat man can skin about 50 cats each day, at a wage of $13.15 a day. It will take 663 men to operate the ranch, so the net profit would be over $8,200 per day. Your $50,000 investment would be recovered in 6.1 days, which beats the stock market don't ya know. Now, the cats would be fed on rats exclusively. Rats multiply four times faster than cats. We would start a rat ranch adjacent to our cat farm for the rats. If we start with a million rats, we will have four rats per cat per day. The rats will be fed on the carcasses of the cats that we skin. This will give each rat a quarter of a cat. You can see by this that the business is a clean operation; self-supporting and really automatic throughout. The cats will eat the rats and the rats will eat the cats and we will get the skins Time is of the essence. Any hesitation on your part would be sheer disaster. Become a millionaire with us through knowledgeable investments. Send your cashier's check today to: Possums Inc. Kennesaw, Georgia, USA, Earth href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:54:01 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: From Lockwood Aviation re: oil and fuel Hi Kolbers, This was posted today on the FlyChallenger list, and I thought it would be of interest. Arty Trost Sandy, Oregon >From Richard on the FlyChallenger list: I had an interesting talk with Dean from Lockwood Aviation today about my concerns for the best products to put through the 503 DCDI. I know it's been discussed at nausium, but time is drawing near for the crank to start turning. About oil: As spoken about on the list many times, Shell has bought out Penzoil. He stated that with the supply of Penzoil 2 stroke oil for air cooled engines drawing near extinction, Shell will be coming out with an oil especially formulated for the Rotax engine. Great news! It has been blind bench tested with three other brands and has prooved its worth. It will be out soon but he doesn't know exactly when or what the new product name will be. Stay tuned. Fuel: When asked what he would burn in a 503 if he was the owner. He stated that if your concerned about legalities and need to keep your fuel at the Rotax reccomended 5% or less of Ethenol then he would mix, as some on the list have mentioned, 50% 100LL avgas with 50% auto gas, 87 octane or higher that contains 10% of Ethenol. On the other hand he stated that there have been no ENGINE problems with running the auto gas with 10% ethenol. The POSSIBLE problems coud include deterioration of O-rings, Poly fuel tanks, fuel lines if not Ethenol rated, and other rubberized parts. He stated that he would keep a close eye on these parts if running straight auto fuel. Fuel filters: He doesn't encourage the use of paper element fuel filters when running Ethenol tainted fuel. Dean states that over time, I don't know how long, the paper absorbes the water from the Ethenol and swells, which can cause a fuel starvation problem. He suggest using a metal mesh fuel filter of 60 to 70 microns. The Rotax manual suggest a metal mesh also. These are his suggestions and I know there are vairables, but I thought I'd put it out there. I'm going to change my paper fuel filter to the metal mesh but haven't decided what fuel or fuel mix I may use. I'm on the fence but leaning towards the auto fuel with a higher octane. I'm not sure but I think the higher octane fuel burns more completely and may leave less deposits. I'd like your suggestions on the octane rating? Richard ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:52 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rats Inc. Possums You didn't mention one big advantage to your plan (which is a great one!) -- it gives worthwhile and enjoyable employment to the thousands of yuppies who have blown out their olfactory lobes by stuffing various items up their noses -- somehow I doubt anyone else would go near your ranch(es). Where are all these 'Cat skinners' I hear about? do not archive On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:16 PM, possums wrote: > At 10:08 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: > >> >> So far it is rats - 3 and me - 0. That have tripped the rat traps >> three times, liked the peanut butter off clean, without getting >> caught. > > > Dear Investors, > This is of the utmost urgency. The following is the "sleeper of all > sleepers." Please send your check in the amount of $50,000 > immediately. We are limiting each participant to one unit. You can > understand after reading this once in a lifetime offer. > > A group of us are considering investing in a large cat ranch near > Hermosillo, Mexico. It is our purpose to start rather small with > about one million cats. Each cat averages about twelve kittens a > year; skins can be sold for about 20 cents for the white ones and > up to 40 cents for the black. This will give us twelve million cat > skins per year to sell at an average price of around 32 cents, > making our gross revenue about $3 million a year. This really > averages out to about $10,000 a day (excluding Sundays and > holidays, of course). > > A good Mexican cat man can skin about 50 cats each day, at a wage > of $13.15 a day. It will take 663 men to operate the ranch, so the > net profit would be over $8,200 per day. Your $50,000 investment > would be recovered in 6.1 days, which beats the stock market don't > ya know. > > Now, the cats would be fed on rats exclusively. Rats multiply four > times faster than cats. We would start a rat ranch adjacent to our > cat farm for the rats. If we start with a million rats, we will > have four rats per cat per day. The rats will be fed on the > carcasses of the cats that we skin. This will give each rat a > quarter of a cat. You can see by this that the business is a clean > operation; self-supporting and really automatic throughout. The > cats will eat the rats and the rats will eat the cats and we will > get the skins > Time is of the essence. Any hesitation on your part would be sheer > disaster. Become a millionaire with us through knowledgeable > investments. > > Send your cashier's check today to: > > Possums Inc. > Kennesaw, > Georgia, USA, Earth > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:24 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Ultrastar: How to take-off Pat Pilots may be old, but they're never stupid. Otherwise they wouldn't get old Merry Xmas to you! do not archive On Dec 19, 2008, at 11:29 AM, pj.ladd wrote: > > Apparently Pat hadn't found it in various posts, >> > > Hi, > I found it. I found it, and every single person on the list told me > what I was to old and stupid to remember. > > Thanks everybody > > Pat > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:28:35 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rats Inc. At 05:17 PM 12/19/2008, you wrote: >Possums >Where are all these 'Cat skinners' I hear about? >do not archive Mexico? - maybe the UK ........ don't remember where I plagiarized it from. Maybe we can use "Spanish Hamsters" instead of rats. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5aD6nWbvcI >do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:42 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: From Lockwood Aviation re: oil and fuel At 04:53 PM 12/19/2008, TheWanderingWench wrote: >...I'm on the fence but >leaning towards the auto fuel with a higher octane. > >I'm not sure but I think the higher octane fuel burns more completely >and may leave less deposits. I'd like your suggestions on the octane >rating? No difference there. Higher octane fuel has one purpose only: It resists detonation, or "pinging". This is typically a problem on higher compression engines. There is no advantage to using higher octane fuel than the manufacturer calls for... it doesn't burn cleaner, or make more power, or leave less deposits. However... some auto fuel manufacturers may put more or different detergent or other additives in their "premium" higher octane fuel. This may reduce deposits; I don't know... but it's not the octane rating that's making any difference. -Dana -- Software isn't released, it's allowed to escape. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:08 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: From Lockwood Aviation re: oil and fuel If you are using a porous bronze filter with an oil mix you may have a problem. Aside from blowing through them there is no visual method to inspect. After some use, especially during storage, they can gum up and reduce flow. I did have one of those glass cylinder type on a VW and it was easy to take apart to clean the plastic mesh sleeve inside but wouldn't care to have the pot metal parts of that thing on an airplane. I will continue to use the "paper" filter and throw it away after each season. They are resin impregnated and reasonably waterproof. Cheap too. BB On 19, Dec 2008, at 4:53 PM, TheWanderingWench wrote: > > > Hi Kolbers, > > This was posted today on the FlyChallenger list, and I thought it > would be of interest. > > Arty Trost > Sandy, Oregon > > >> From Richard on the FlyChallenger list: > > I had an interesting talk with Dean from Lockwood Aviation today > about my concerns for the best products to put through the 503 DCDI. > I know it's been discussed at nausium, but time is drawing near for > the crank to start turning. > > About oil: > As spoken about on the list many times, Shell has bought out Penzoil. > He stated that with the supply of Penzoil 2 stroke oil for air cooled > engines drawing near extinction, Shell will be coming out with an oil > especially formulated for the Rotax engine. Great news! > It has been blind bench tested with three other brands and has > prooved its worth. It will be out soon but he doesn't know exactly > when or what the new product name will be. Stay tuned. > > Fuel: > When asked what he would burn in a 503 if he was the owner. > > He stated that if your concerned about legalities and need to keep > your fuel at the Rotax reccomended 5% or less of Ethenol then he > would mix, as some on the list have mentioned, 50% 100LL avgas with > 50% auto gas, 87 octane or higher that contains 10% of Ethenol. > > On the other hand he stated that there have been no ENGINE problems > with running the auto gas with 10% ethenol. > The POSSIBLE problems coud include deterioration of O-rings, Poly > fuel tanks, fuel lines if not Ethenol rated, and other rubberized > parts. > He stated that he would keep a close eye on these parts if running > straight auto fuel. > > Fuel filters: > He doesn't encourage the use of paper element fuel filters when > running Ethenol tainted fuel. Dean states that over time, I don't > know how long, the paper absorbes the water from the Ethenol and > swells, which can cause a fuel starvation problem. > He suggest using a metal mesh fuel filter of 60 to 70 microns. The > Rotax manual suggest a metal mesh also. > > These are his suggestions and I know there are vairables, but I > thought I'd put it out there. > I'm going to change my paper fuel filter to the metal mesh but > haven't decided what fuel or fuel mix I may use. I'm on the fence but > leaning towards the auto fuel with a higher octane. > > I'm not sure but I think the higher octane fuel burns more completely > and may leave less deposits. I'd like your suggestions on the octane > rating? > > Richard > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:44 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 From: "John Bickham" I know it may seem like I am chomping at the bit on this. Unlike a lot of you that have reached retirement or have gained their independence in other ways, I have to pick/schedule the vacation in advance. I have some unfinished business as far as attending the "Annual Informal MV Gathering". Headed that way in 2003, but made some dumb decisions and didn't make it. Going to make it a priority this year (1st vacation pick). I'm going with the 3rd weekend in May (15, 16, and 17). Let me know if these need to be adjusted. I plan to be off from May 12th to May 31st. If conditions are right, I may even head toward the Alvord, if JH wants my company and he is up to it. I know I can be a burden and a challenge at times. Gonna work toward that goal. Gotta get plane and pilot in condition for that trip. Wish all my Kolb friends a blessed and happy holiday season. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough ones. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220235#220235 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:20 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 > I'm going with the 3rd weekend in May (15, 16, and 17). Let me know if these need to be adjusted. > > I plan to be off from May 12th to May 31st. If conditions are right, I > may even head toward the Alvord, if JH wants my company and he is up to > it. I know I can be a burden and a challenge at times. > > John Bickham John B/Gang: Sounds good to me. Mother's Day is 10 May. Memorial Day Weekend is 23, 24, 25 May. That makes the 2009 Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley 15,16, 17 May 2009. Most of us get there on Thursday, the day before the official start of the flyin. Takes me 2.5 days and 20 flight hours to get there from Alabama. I usually depart on Tuesday morning and get there about noon Thursday. By Sunday, we are loading airplanes and heading home or other exciting places. John B will be more than welcome to fly with me to the Alvord. If we are lucky, we may get Bruce Chaison to fly along with us. Three MKIIIs would make a fine formation flight to the Rock House. That is if Larry and Karen will let us land and mooch for a couple days. John W and I missed landing at Winnemucca, NV, last year. That was the first time we missed staying with one of my old SF buddies and his wife. This year I plan on landing at Elko, NV, where Tony has moved, to spend the night with them in their new house. From Elko, it is a hop skip and jump to the Rock House. That will give you plenty of time to make the return flight to Nauga Field, LA. We started this flyin at MV in May 2003. We have had a great flyin there every year since. Look forward to another one next year. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:31 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 Karen and I are looking forward to any and all of the Kolb pilots or even those flying other types as well. There is always room and food enough, as well as places to go and things to do. The only problem with the plan as I see it is that "a few days" generally isn't enough to get it all done. Plan a bit more generous stay. You see I generally don't have any one to play with, so you have to be a real jerk to not be welcome. 42 40.419 N 117 51.198 W - 2600 foot dirt runway, tiedowns for 6 airplanes. Larry C ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 > I'm going with the 3rd weekend in May (15, 16, and 17). Let me know if these need to be adjusted. > > I plan to be off from May 12th to May 31st. If conditions are right, I > may even head toward the Alvord, if JH wants my company and he is up to > it. I know I can be a burden and a challenge at times. > > John Bickham John B/Gang: Sounds good to me. Mother's Day is 10 May. Memorial Day Weekend is 23, 24, 25 May. That makes the 2009 Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley 15,16, 17 May 2009. John B will be more than welcome to fly with me to the Alvord. If we are lucky, we may get Bruce Chaison to fly along with us. Three MKIIIs would make a fine formation flight to the Rock House. That is if Larry and Karen will let us land and mooch for a couple days. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:40 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 From: "John Bickham" John H./Larry C/ all > Headed that way in 2003 That should have been "headed that way in 2005". I'll bump Bruce C on that. Maybe we'll meet up with you on your first RON Tuesday night on the way there. Can you talk Steven G into making the trip again? James T ought to be close with Mark III too. That is if my little 80 hp won't slow you guys down too much. Larry C - thanks for the open invitation. Maybe you could come pass a good time with us at Nauga Field in July. What do you make your Jambalya with - Antelope meat? [Laughing] Look forward to it. do not archive -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough ones. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220254#220254 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:33 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 > Larry C - thanks for the open invitation. Maybe you could come pass a good time with us at Nauga Field in July. What do you make your Jambalya with - Antelope meat? [Laughing] > > John Bickham John B/Gang: That would really be a blast if we could get the whole gang together. Don't forget Gary Haley too. john h mkIII ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.