---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/20/08: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 (herb) 2. 08:33 AM - MkIII for sale (Mike Welch) 3. 08:49 AM - Re: MkIII for sale (Mike Welch) 4. 04:52 PM - Re: MkIII for sale (herb) 5. 07:32 PM - Re: What is your Altitude loss in a 180 degree turn? (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:44 AM PST US From: herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Schedule vacation for MV 2009 Is Steve Green offering his MkIII for sale on Barnstormers? Surely looks like it...Herb do not archive At 11:34 PM 12/19/2008, you wrote: > >John H./Larry C/ all > > > > Headed that way in 2003 > > >That should have been "headed that way in 2005". > >I'll bump Bruce C on that. Maybe we'll meet up with you on your >first RON Tuesday night on the way there. Can you talk Steven G into >making the trip again? James T ought to be close with Mark III too. > >That is if my little 80 hp won't slow you guys down too much. > >Larry C - thanks for the open invitation. Maybe you could come pass >a good time with us at Nauga Field in July. What do you make your >Jambalya with - Antelope meat? [Laughing] > > >Look forward to it. > >do not archive > >-------- >Thanks too much, > >John Bickham >Mark III-C w/ 912UL >St. Francisville, LA > >Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with >a lot of rough ones. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220254#220254 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:15 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: Kolb-List: MkIII for sale Herb, Although I don't see any pictures when I bring up his ad, Steve Green is identified as the owner. So, in answer to your question, yes, it is his palne for sale. Mike Welch MkIII _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:32 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: MkIII for sale > it is his palne for sale. > > Mike Welch > MkIII Make that "plane". I should put on my glasses and proofrfead.<--(note: this is a joke!) Mike Welch _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:41 PM PST US From: herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MkIII for sale Kinda surprised... Maybe he is selling to buy the MkIII extra that the Kolb factory has for sale?? :-) Both look to be pretty good deals... Herb At 10:32 AM 12/20/2008, you wrote: > > >Herb, > >Although I don't see any pictures when I bring up his ad, Steve Green is >identified as the owner. So, in answer to your question, yes, it is >his palne for sale. > >Mike Welch >MkIII >_________________________________________________________________ >Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. >http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008 > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:46 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: What is your Altitude loss in a 180 degree turn? From: "Richard Pike" Very interesting thread, here is my experience - in a MKIII, if you are making a typical Kolb wonder climb, the first thing that has to be dealt with before you can even think of making a turn back is getting the nose down. With our high thrust line, if the engine barfs when you are in a 40 or 45 mph full throttle climb, it only takes a couple seconds for the airspeed to fall to zero, and the resulting stall is quite a dandy. So I got serious a couple years back about occasionally practicing "engine barf recoveries" at altitude. My experience is that if you are in a steep full throttle climb and snatch the throttle back to idle, you need to immediately go to full nose down stick and even then the airspeed will go to about zero. Meanwhile, the airplane feels like it is simultaneously decelerating and rotating around the main spar. (It's actually very cool) Once the airplane has transitioned to about a 45 degree nose down attitude, it begins to accelerate, and it doesn't feel like it actually stalls. Probably it does, but it's not apparent, because of the odd rotation it is doing. At this point, as soon as the airspeed indicator passes about 30, (because it is accelerating very well) I have found that if you go to either a maximum deflection right or left turn (keep the ball centered) and begin your pullout, you can do a course reversal and level out in around 200 feet. Best I ever did was 160, but that was primed and ready. In actual "surprise engine barf mode," it would probably be closer to 250 feet. As Beauford says, Worth what ye paid for it. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220361#220361 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.