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Fri 12/26/08


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 06:04 AM - video from last summer (Dana Hague)
     2. 08:02 AM - video from last summer (william sullivan)
     3. 10:16 AM - sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (john taylor)
     4. 12:27 PM - Re: video from last summer (Dana Hague)
     5. 12:47 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (Dana Hague)
     6. 01:36 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (boyd)
     7. 01:54 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (John Hauck)
     8. 02:32 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (boyd)
     9. 05:03 PM - Landing video Kolb MK III (grantr)
    10. 08:26 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr (lucien)
    11. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr (robert bean)
    12. 09:27 PM - video's (Larry Cottrell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:04:55 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: video from last summer
    The weather's sure not conducive to flying in New England right now, so here's a short video from last summer: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDawpMnsSpQ&fmt=18&feature=channel> -Dana -- Ever notice there's no crime at a shooting range?


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    Time: 08:02:10 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: video from last summer
    - Dana- Why does the video seem to shimmy?- Is it the camera mount?- Keep sending- I like to see a different view of areas I know.- Thanks. - do not archive ------------------------- ------------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------- Windsor Locks, ct.


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    Time: 10:16:02 AM PST US
    From: john taylor <jtayloraaf@yahoo.com>
    Subject: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr
    lic) [avid_flyer] sport pilot medical dilemma- failed class 3 medical=never us e drivers license =0ADate: 12/26/2008 12:05:31 PM Central Standard Time =0A=0A=0Athis issue is being discussed again on the kitfox yahoo list. one of the =0Aclever kf-er's cited this "approach". new to me but intriguing so i thgt to =0Apresent to kolb list brain trust for consideration & possible validation??=0A=0A" Another thought . An FAA person told me some time ago that if you feel you =0Amay have a problem,go for a class 2 medical. If you pass it great. If not ask =0Ayour ME if he thinks you could pass a class 3 .. If he says no, exam is over. =0AYou did not fail a class 3 medical. You a re a Sport Pilot." Larry Huntley KF =0A4-1200,Soob, 500+=0A=0Ajohn bowman, bldg avid+, prairieville, la=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________________ ___=0AFrom: russ kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0A Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:03:52 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>=0A=0ADana=0AApparently Pat- hadn't found it in various posts, but of course he was Ernest K Gann; the Taj incident was bef ore WW2 -- and ALL of his books are well worth reading. I'd recommend A HOS TAGE TO FORTUNE as a start.- I may even go back and re-read it; it's that good.=0AMerry Xmas,=0ARuss=0Ado not archive=0A=0AOn Dec 16, 2008, at 7:20 -m-hague@comcast.net>=0A> =0A> At 07:41 AM 12/16/2008, pj.ladd wrote:=0A> =0A>> From what I remember of the story the refuelling crew were instructed to put in a specific amount of fuel but instead filled the tanks.=0A>> I a m not going to get into the question of whether Gann should have checked th e amount. It is just the story as I remember it and its years since I read it.=0A> =0A> I don't remember the details from when I read it, either, but also IIRC it was during wartime... when people often must do- things with a much lower margin of safety than they'd otherwise find acceptable.=0A> =0A>> Incidentally if you have never come across Ganns books I think his in itials are D.W and there was at least one film derived from one of his stor ies.=0A> =0A> Ernest K. Gann... all of his numerous flying books are worth reading.- He also wrote several sea stories but I haven't read any of tho se.=0A> =0A> -Dana=0A> =0A> --=0A>- "The difference between death and tax es is death doesn't get worse every=0A> time Congress meets." -- Will Roger ==============0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 12:27:56 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: video from last summer
    At 11:01 AM 12/26/2008, william sullivan wrote: > Dana- Why does the video seem to shimmy? Is it the camera mount? Keep > sending- I like to see a different view of areas I know. It seems to be an artifact of the engine vibration through the camera mount, since it's only at certain rpm's. It doesn't happen when the camera is mounted to my PPG helmet (my airplane helmet is too new and unscratched for me to want to stick a camera mount to it). -Dana -- In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take.


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    Time: 12:47:22 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp
    (dr lic) At 01:14 PM 12/26/2008, john taylor wrote: >" Another thought . An FAA person told me some time ago that if you feel you >may have a problem,go for a class 2 medical. If you pass it great. If not ask >your ME if he thinks you could pass a class 3. If he says no, exam is over. >You did not fail a class 3 medical. You are a Sport Pilot." Larry Huntley KF >4-1200,Soob, 500+ I don't believe this is correct... the rule says you can't have failed your most recent medical; it doesn't say anything about which class it is. If you fail the class 2, that then is your last [failed] medical and you can't fly under SP, unless you subsequently pass a class 3 or get a special issuance. "...pilots who have had their last FAA medical application/certificate denied, suspended or revoked or had their Special Issuance Authorization withdrawn MAY NOT exercise the privileges of a Sport pilot certificate." -Dana -- In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take.


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    Time: 01:36:16 PM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp
    (dr lic) I don't believe this is correct... the rule says you can't have failed your most recent medical; it doesn't say anything about which class it is. If you fail the class 2, that then is your last [failed] medical and you can't fly under SP, unless you subsequently pass a class 3 or get a special issuance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets try this route just for fun. Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a physical. not a flight physical. just an every day good health physical.. When you are finished,,, ask if he thinks you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he says yes, fill out the paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over. This way you have not failed an aviation medical... Boyd Young KOLB MKIII C Utah


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    Time: 01:54:50 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp
    (dr lic) Boyd/Gang: I have an old retired country doc for a flight surgeon. I fly my airplane to a little country airport, taxi over to the fence, walk about a block to his house, get my flight physical in his den. Takes a few minutes and now costs $75.00. Last year when I was getting my flight physical I asked him to let me know ahead of time if he thought I might not pass my Class III. He said not to worry. I wasn't going to fail my flight physical. john h mkIII Roanoke, VA Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) Boyd Young


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    Time: 02:32:34 PM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp
    (dr lic) I don't believe this is correct... the rule says you can't have failed your most recent medical; it doesn't say anything about which class it is. If you fail the class 2, that then is your last [failed] medical and you can't fly under SP, unless you subsequently pass a class 3 or get a special issuance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets try this route just for fun. Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a physical. not a flight physical. just an every day good health physical.. When you are finished,,, ask if he thinks you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he says yes, fill out the paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over. This way you have not failed an aviation medical... Boyd Young KOLB MKIII C Utah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Been thinking about this since I hit the send button. If the doctor says he thinks you would pass the third class med.. then before filling out the paperwork. ask your self if your health would stay good enough until the medical expires ,, if so then fill out the paperwork.. If your health is going downhill,,, and they revoke the medical,,, you are the same situation as if you had failed the medical. In that case you would be better off to fly sport pilot for now then give it up when your health goes south. Now if the doctor says NO!!!! ask enough questions as to determine if you are safe to fly SP . or if you should keep your feet on the ground and sell your plane.. Remember,,, by flying SP with your drivers license,,,, you are self certifying that you are safe and healthy enough to fly safely .... if there is a condition that makes you unsafe, and you know about it, you should not fly. The last situation is the medical examiner tells you that he could get you a medical if you spent enough time and money to get through all the bells and whistles that the faa would put in your way. in this case you have to make the decision: do I want to fly my kolb.. If so fly sp.. If you need to fly heavy metal,, decide how bad you need to fly it. And if it is worth jumping through all the hoops. Please fly safe. Boyd


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    Time: 05:03:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Landing video Kolb MK III
    From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbYkWBD5dEo&feature=channel&fmt=18 This is my 1st video flying my Kolb. I tried to take more footage but the camera kept turning off in the plane so no flying or takeoff footage. The camera has a few safeguard features to protect it from damage from mishandling. I deactivated them so i hope this will solve the problem. I am not sure why it worked on the landing footage. My camera is a Sony Handycam SR-45 30 GB HDD. I have it mounted to a tripod which is strapped down in the passenger seat with bungee straps. What is the best file format( best quality for the file size) to upload to youtube? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221280#221280


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    Time: 08:26:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp
    (dr
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    by0ung(at)brigham.net wrote: > > Lets try this route just for fun > > Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a physical not a flight physical just an every day good health physical. When you are finished,,, ask if he thinks you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he says yes, fill out the paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over. This way you have not failed an aviation medical.. > > > Boyd Young > KOLB MKIII C > Utah > My .02, Keep your AME and your regular doc separate folks wherever possible. Dunno the legality of it all, but there's an inherent conflict of interest in the two roles of managing your health and the regulatory one of screening for a flight medical. Once the doc knows about a condition, (s)he knows so when it comes to the actual exam, well....... When I got sick the last time, I voluntarily grounded myself and went to a specialist. To **** with the medical at that point, my health comes first. I let my medical expire in the meantime, but I wasn't healthy enough to resume flying until a while after that. Never went back to get it, too much paperwork involved and I still have things here and there going on that are disqualifying. But when I need to go to the doctor, I need to feel free to be honest with them and tell them what's up. So I'd never use my AME for that..... JMHO, LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221309#221309


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    Time: 09:04:56 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly
    sp (dr never confuse passing a flight physical with being healthy. BB On 26, Dec 2008, at 11:25 PM, lucien wrote: > > > by0ung(at)brigham.net wrote: >> >> Lets try this route just for fun >> >> Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a >> physical not a flight physical just an every day good >> health physical. When you are finished,,, ask if he thinks >> you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he says yes, fill out the >> paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over. This way you >> have not failed an aviation medical.. >> >> >> Boyd Young >> KOLB MKIII C >> Utah >> > > > My .02, > > Keep your AME and your regular doc separate folks wherever > possible. Dunno the legality of it all, but there's an inherent > conflict of interest in the two roles of managing your health and > the regulatory one of screening for a flight medical. > Once the doc knows about a condition, (s)he knows so when it comes > to the actual exam, well....... > > When I got sick the last time, I voluntarily grounded myself and > went to a specialist. To **** with the medical at that point, my > health comes first. I let my medical expire in the meantime, but I > wasn't healthy enough to resume flying until a while after that. > > Never went back to get it, too much paperwork involved and I still > have things here and there going on that are disqualifying. > > But when I need to go to the doctor, I need to feel free to be > honest with them and tell them what's up. So I'd never use my AME > for that..... > > JMHO, > > LS > > -------- > LS > Titan II SS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221309#221309 > >


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    Time: 09:27:56 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: video's
    I tried the Pinnacle video spin and was able to paste two clips together, couldn't figure out how to add any music, but uploaded it to you tube. When I viewed it, I was so disappointed in the quality that I deleted it. Any ideas? I will try again with a bit better quality to start with, but don't have much in the way of hope that it will be much better. Still snowy with more in the forecast, still haven't lifted off with the HKS Larry C




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