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1. 06:04 AM - video from last summer (Dana Hague)
2. 08:02 AM - video from last summer (william sullivan)
3. 10:16 AM - sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (john taylor)
4. 12:27 PM - Re: video from last summer (Dana Hague)
5. 12:47 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (Dana Hague)
6. 01:36 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (boyd)
7. 01:54 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (John Hauck)
8. 02:32 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr lic) (boyd)
9. 05:03 PM - Landing video Kolb MK III (grantr)
10. 08:26 PM - Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr (lucien)
11. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr (robert bean)
12. 09:27 PM - video's (Larry Cottrell)
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Subject: | video from last summer |
The weather's sure not conducive to flying in New England right now, so
here's a short video from last summer:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDawpMnsSpQ&fmt=18&feature=channel>
-Dana
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Subject: | video from last summer |
- Dana- Why does the video seem to shimmy?- Is it the camera mount?-
Keep sending- I like to see a different view of areas I know.- Thanks.
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do not archive
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Bill Sullivan
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Windsor Locks, ct.
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Subject: | sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp (dr |
lic)
[avid_flyer] sport pilot medical dilemma- failed class 3 medical=never us
e drivers license =0ADate: 12/26/2008 12:05:31 PM Central Standard Time
=0A=0A=0Athis issue is being discussed again on the kitfox yahoo list. one
of the =0Aclever kf-er's cited this "approach". new to me but intriguing so
i thgt to =0Apresent to kolb list brain trust for consideration & possible
validation??=0A=0A" Another thought . An FAA person told me some time ago
that if you feel you =0Amay have a problem,go for a class 2 medical. If you
pass it great. If not ask =0Ayour ME if he thinks you could pass a class 3
.. If he says no, exam is over. =0AYou did not fail a class 3 medical. You a
re a Sport Pilot." Larry Huntley KF =0A4-1200,Soob, 500+=0A=0Ajohn bowman,
bldg avid+, prairieville, la=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________________
___=0AFrom: russ kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0A
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:03:52 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:
kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>=0A=0ADana=0AApparently Pat- hadn't found it in
various posts, but of course he was Ernest K Gann; the Taj incident was bef
ore WW2 -- and ALL of his books are well worth reading. I'd recommend A HOS
TAGE TO FORTUNE as a start.- I may even go back and re-read it; it's that
good.=0AMerry Xmas,=0ARuss=0Ado not archive=0A=0AOn Dec 16, 2008, at 7:20
-m-hague@comcast.net>=0A> =0A> At 07:41 AM 12/16/2008, pj.ladd wrote:=0A>
=0A>> From what I remember of the story the refuelling crew were instructed
to put in a specific amount of fuel but instead filled the tanks.=0A>> I a
m not going to get into the question of whether Gann should have checked th
e amount. It is just the story as I remember it and its years since I read
it.=0A> =0A> I don't remember the details from when I read it, either, but
also IIRC it was during wartime... when people often must do- things with
a much lower margin of safety than they'd otherwise find acceptable.=0A>
=0A>> Incidentally if you have never come across Ganns books I think his in
itials are D.W and there was at least one film derived from one of his stor
ies.=0A> =0A> Ernest K. Gann... all of his numerous flying books are worth
reading.- He also wrote several sea stories but I haven't read any of tho
se.=0A> =0A> -Dana=0A> =0A> --=0A>- "The difference between death and tax
es is death doesn't get worse every=0A> time Congress meets." -- Will Roger
==============0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: video from last summer |
At 11:01 AM 12/26/2008, william sullivan wrote:
> Dana- Why does the video seem to shimmy? Is it the camera mount? Keep
> sending- I like to see a different view of areas I know.
It seems to be an artifact of the engine vibration through the camera
mount, since it's only at certain rpm's. It doesn't happen when the camera
is mounted to my PPG helmet (my airplane helmet is too new and unscratched
for me to want to stick a camera mount to it).
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp |
(dr lic)
At 01:14 PM 12/26/2008, john taylor wrote:
>" Another thought . An FAA person told me some time ago that if you feel you
>may have a problem,go for a class 2 medical. If you pass it great. If not ask
>your ME if he thinks you could pass a class 3. If he says no, exam is over.
>You did not fail a class 3 medical. You are a Sport Pilot." Larry Huntley KF
>4-1200,Soob, 500+
I don't believe this is correct... the rule says you can't have failed your
most recent medical; it doesn't say anything about which class it is. If
you fail the class 2, that then is your last [failed] medical and you can't
fly under SP, unless you subsequently pass a class 3 or get a special issuance.
"...pilots who have had their last FAA medical application/certificate
denied, suspended or revoked or had their Special Issuance Authorization
withdrawn MAY NOT exercise the privileges of a Sport pilot certificate."
-Dana
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Subject: | sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp |
(dr lic)
I don't believe this is correct... the rule says you can't have failed your
most recent medical; it doesn't say anything about which class it is. If
you fail the class 2, that then is your last [failed] medical and you can't
fly under SP, unless you subsequently pass a class 3 or get a special
issuance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Lets try this route just for fun.
Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a physical.
not a flight physical. just an every day good health physical.. When you
are finished,,, ask if he thinks you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he
says yes, fill out the paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over.
This way you have not failed an aviation medical...
Boyd Young
KOLB MKIII C
Utah
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Subject: | Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp |
(dr lic)
Boyd/Gang:
I have an old retired country doc for a flight surgeon. I fly my
airplane to a little country airport, taxi over to the fence, walk about
a block to his house, get my flight physical in his den. Takes a few
minutes and now costs $75.00.
Last year when I was getting my flight physical I asked him to let me
know ahead of time if he thought I might not pass my Class III. He said
not to worry. I wasn't going to fail my flight physical.
john h
mkIII
Roanoke, VA
Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals)
Boyd Young
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Subject: | sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp |
(dr lic)
I don't believe this is correct... the rule says you can't have failed your
most recent medical; it doesn't say anything about which class it is. If
you fail the class 2, that then is your last [failed] medical and you can't
fly under SP, unless you subsequently pass a class 3 or get a special
issuance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Lets try this route just for fun.
Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a physical.
not a flight physical. just an every day good health physical.. When you
are finished,,, ask if he thinks you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he
says yes, fill out the paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over.
This way you have not failed an aviation medical...
Boyd Young
KOLB MKIII C
Utah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Been thinking about this since I hit the send button.
If the doctor says he thinks you would pass the third class med.. then
before filling out the paperwork. ask your self if your health would stay
good enough until the medical expires ,, if so then fill out the
paperwork.. If your health is going downhill,,, and they revoke the
medical,,, you are the same situation as if you had failed the medical.
In that case you would be better off to fly sport pilot for now then give it
up when your health goes south.
Now if the doctor says NO!!!! ask enough questions as to determine if
you are safe to fly SP . or if you should keep your feet on the ground
and sell your plane..
Remember,,, by flying SP with your drivers license,,,, you are self
certifying that you are safe and healthy enough to fly safely .... if
there is a condition that makes you unsafe, and you know about it, you
should not fly.
The last situation is the medical examiner tells you that he could get you a
medical if you spent enough time and money to get through all the bells and
whistles that the faa would put in your way. in this case you have to make
the decision: do I want to fly my kolb.. If so fly sp.. If you need to
fly heavy metal,, decide how bad you need to fly it. And if it is worth
jumping through all the hoops.
Please fly safe.
Boyd
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Subject: | Landing video Kolb MK III |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbYkWBD5dEo&feature=channel&fmt=18
This is my 1st video flying my Kolb. I tried to take more footage but the camera
kept turning off in the plane so no flying or takeoff footage.
The camera has a few safeguard features to protect it from damage from mishandling.
I deactivated them so i hope this will solve the problem. I am not sure why
it worked on the landing footage.
My camera is a Sony Handycam SR-45 30 GB HDD. I have it mounted to a tripod which
is strapped down in the passenger seat with bungee straps.
What is the best file format( best quality for the file size) to upload to youtube?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221280#221280
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Subject: | Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly sp |
(dr
by0ung(at)brigham.net wrote:
>
> Lets try this route just for fun
>
> Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a physical not
a flight physical just an every day good health physical. When you are finished,,,
ask if he thinks you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he says yes,
fill out the paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over. This way you
have not failed an aviation medical..
>
>
> Boyd Young
> KOLB MKIII C
> Utah
>
My .02,
Keep your AME and your regular doc separate folks wherever possible. Dunno the
legality of it all, but there's an inherent conflict of interest in the two roles
of managing your health and the regulatory one of screening for a flight
medical.
Once the doc knows about a condition, (s)he knows so when it comes to the actual
exam, well.......
When I got sick the last time, I voluntarily grounded myself and went to a specialist.
To **** with the medical at that point, my health comes first. I let my
medical expire in the meantime, but I wasn't healthy enough to resume flying
until a while after that.
Never went back to get it, too much paperwork involved and I still have things
here and there going on that are disqualifying.
But when I need to go to the doctor, I need to feel free to be honest with them
and tell them what's up. So I'd never use my AME for that.....
JMHO,
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: sport pilot medical dilemma- failed cl 3= never fly |
sp (dr
never confuse passing a flight physical with being healthy.
BB
On 26, Dec 2008, at 11:25 PM, lucien wrote:
>
>
> by0ung(at)brigham.net wrote:
>>
>> Lets try this route just for fun
>>
>> Go and see a doctor ( who gives aviation physicals) and get a
>> physical not a flight physical just an every day good
>> health physical. When you are finished,,, ask if he thinks
>> you would pass a class 3 medical,,, if he says yes, fill out the
>> paperwork,,,, if he says no,,,, physical over. This way you
>> have not failed an aviation medical..
>>
>>
>> Boyd Young
>> KOLB MKIII C
>> Utah
>>
>
>
> My .02,
>
> Keep your AME and your regular doc separate folks wherever
> possible. Dunno the legality of it all, but there's an inherent
> conflict of interest in the two roles of managing your health and
> the regulatory one of screening for a flight medical.
> Once the doc knows about a condition, (s)he knows so when it comes
> to the actual exam, well.......
>
> When I got sick the last time, I voluntarily grounded myself and
> went to a specialist. To **** with the medical at that point, my
> health comes first. I let my medical expire in the meantime, but I
> wasn't healthy enough to resume flying until a while after that.
>
> Never went back to get it, too much paperwork involved and I still
> have things here and there going on that are disqualifying.
>
> But when I need to go to the doctor, I need to feel free to be
> honest with them and tell them what's up. So I'd never use my AME
> for that.....
>
> JMHO,
>
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221309#221309
>
>
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I tried the Pinnacle video spin and was able to paste two clips
together, couldn't figure out how to add any music, but uploaded it to
you tube. When I viewed it, I was so disappointed in the quality that I
deleted it. Any ideas? I will try again with a bit better quality to
start with, but don't have much in the way of hope that it will be much
better.
Still snowy with more in the forecast, still haven't lifted off with the
HKS
Larry C
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