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1. 05:29 AM - 503 engine fogging-OOPS (Tom Jones)
2. 06:17 AM - Fogging 503 OOPS (Lanny Fetterman)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS (olendorf)
4. 07:02 AM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS (Mike Welch)
5. 07:11 AM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS (Mike Welch)
6. 07:33 AM - Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (JetPilot)
7. 07:41 AM - Re: Kolb Flying Vids (JetPilot)
8. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (John Hauck)
9. 07:48 AM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS (Jack B. Hart)
10. 08:23 AM - Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (lucien)
11. 08:39 AM - !Re: Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (John Hauck)
12. 09:02 AM - ! Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (lucien)
13. 09:48 AM - Re: ! Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
14. 09:53 AM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS (HShack@aol.com)
15. 10:04 AM - Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (George Alexander)
16. 10:51 AM - RVN (william sullivan)
17. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: Landing video Kolb MK III (John Hauck)
18. 02:12 PM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. (Tom Jones)
19. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. (John Hauck)
20. 03:15 PM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. (Tom Jones)
21. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. (John Hauck)
22. 04:06 PM - Re: videos (william sullivan)
23. 04:31 PM - Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. (Tom Jones)
24. 04:41 PM - Re: Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. (John Hauck)
25. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. (John Hauck)
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Subject: | 503 engine fogging-OOPS |
Does anyone have an idea on how to fish a fogging oil spray can plastic extension
tube out of the crankcase on a 503? The engine is mounted spark plugs up and
it was not running when the tube shot in there. I took the carb off but still
can't see the tube.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Subject: | Fogging 503 OOPS |
Tom and all, I did that same thing two years ago. I got the plastic straw
out of the crank case using a four finger pick up tool. When I got it close
to the carb inlet, I grabbed it with a pair of needle nose pliers and
pulled it out. The difference between my problem and your`s is I could
still see the tube stuck to the side of the crank case. Good luck on your
fishing expedition, I hope you can find the plastic straw and remove it.
Been there and done that!
Last fall when I fogged my 503 I did NOT use the plastic straw! Lanny
Fetterman N598LF FSII
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS |
I would try a shop vac.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
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Subject: | 503 engine fogging-OOPS |
> Does anyone have an idea on how to fish a fogging oil spray can plastic extension
tube out of the crankcase on a 503? The engine is mounted spark plugs up
and it was not running when the tube shot in there. I took the carb off but still
can't see the tube.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
Tom,
I would recommend trying to get ahold of a boroscope (like the link I've attached),
and one
of those 4-fingered claws that Lanny suggested.
If you don't want to buy a boroscope, most "well-equiped" auto repair mechanics
have them. Possibly you could buy him lunch or something. Just an idea.
Here's what I'm referring to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BORESCOPE-BOROSCOPE-FIBERSCOPE-FIBER-OPTIC-SCOPE-NEW_W0QQitemZ200290098469QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Automotive_Tools?hash=item200290098469&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Or, if you can get a set of those mechanic mirrors, this might get you by as far
as peering into
the crankcase. You can get these locally at any auto parts store. BTW, your best
time to use the mirror is at night, with a really bright flashlight (and your
4-fingered claw).
Also, as Scott suggested, you might try the shop-vac idea. I would tape a section
of flexible tubing on the end of the hose, say, about 3 feet long, so that
you can fish around inside the crankcase. Every couple of minutes, check for
the tube inside the vacuum.
Hang in there, you'll get it out.
Mike Welch
MkIII
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Subject: | 503 engine fogging-OOPS |
Tom,
Here is the set of mirrors I was suggesting. Very handy to have. Maybe you
wouldn't
need the boroscope, if the spray tube isn't too far inside the motor.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4pc-TELESCOPING-INSPECTION-MIRROR-AND-PICKUP-MAGNET-SET_W0QQitemZ220334412737QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Automotive_Tools?hash=item220334412737&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A64%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Best of luck,
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Subject: | Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
John Hauck wrote:
>
> And.........I did it without any assistance from ___ ___'s. You'll have to
> fill in the blanks.
>
> john h
> Bored in hauck's holler, alabama
I got it !! You air taxied without any assistance from " Landing Gear's " [Wink]
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Flying Vids |
I knew your Kolb was highly modified, I never imagined that those mods would make
it sound so cool !
Mike
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have !!!
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Subject: | Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
> I got it !! You air taxied without any assistance from " Landing Gear's
> " [Wink]
>
> Mike
We have a beautiful day in Alabama. Sun shine, CAVU!
Got a new DRE6000 ANR headset for Xmas to replace my old one. Need to do a
little flying to see if it is going to get the job done. My hearing had
degraded to the point I can not hear and understand without the ANR. Of
course, where I fly, I can fly legally without a radio, if I have to.
Hope everyone had a merry Xmas.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS |
At 05:28 AM 12/29/08 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone have an idea on how to fish a fogging oil spray can plastic extension
tube out of the crankcase on a 503? The engine is mounted spark plugs up
and it was not running when the tube shot in there. I took the carb off but still
can't see the tube.
>
>--------
Tom,
No experience at this so this just a suggestion. Remove the intake manifold
so that you have as good a view as possible. Then rotate the engine slowly
so that the crank throw sweeps the case from the far side to the bottom and
up. Hopefully this will bring the tube up into your field of vision as the
port opens.
Good Luck!
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
John Hauck wrote:
>
> We have a beautiful day in Alabama. Sun shine, CAVU!
>
> Got a new DRE6000 ANR headset for Xmas to replace my old one. Need to do a
> little flying to see if it is going to get the job done. My hearing had
> degraded to the point I can not hear and understand without the ANR. Of
> course, where I fly, I can fly legally without a radio, if I have to.
>
> Hope everyone had a merry Xmas.
>
> john h
> mkIII
You may find it's not your hearing so much as the headset.
I flew my FSII with a rather crappy old headset and, when I moved it to KSAF, I
could barely hear the tower at all. Even with the radio all the way up and with
20db foam earplugs underneath I could only catch every other word.
Tower would have been more upset if it weren't for the pretty little kolb floating
around the airport entertaining them.
I got a telex 50D ANR a few months ago and that fixes all the problems with that
even in the titan which is louder than my FS II was. I'd love to try it in an
FS II to see how it works.
But you're right, your hearing can't be replaced so investing in a good headset
is a cost-no-object type thing IMO....
LS
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Subject: | Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
> You may find it's not your hearing so much as the headset.
>
> LS
Lucien:
I wish that were the case.
My old headset is a DRE6000. It has a lot of hours on it, plus the rats cut
the power cord. Since it happened just prior to the holidays, was a good
time to ask Santa Claus for a new one.
My hearing has been bad since March 1966, from an incident in RVN. Was able
to get through flight school and fly for many years dispite my hearing loss,
but it is getting much worse, much sooner than I thought it would.
Thank God for ANR! Without it, I would be lost.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: ! Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
John Hauck wrote:
>
>
>
> Lucien:
>
> I wish that were the case.
>
> My old headset is a DRE6000. It has a lot of hours on it, plus the rats cut
> the power cord. Since it happened just prior to the holidays, was a good
> time to ask Santa Claus for a new one.
>
> My hearing has been bad since March 1966, from an incident in RVN. Was able
> to get through flight school and fly for many years dispite my hearing loss,
> but it is getting much worse, much sooner than I thought it would.
>
> Thank God for ANR! Without it, I would be lost.
>
> john h
> mkIII
John, may I ask what RVN is?
I'm a musician myself and have a slight hearing loss due to exposure to lots of
loud but foul noise. In particular, I don't recover from loud noises nearly
as well or as quickly as I used to. Even a short flight in the FSII as I recall
with the old headset would leave me hearing impaired for a couple of days.
On my last flight - short xcountry to taos and back to santa fe - even with the
telex I noticed I was a little deef afterwards. I may start using earplugs even
under the telex.....
If I build a firefly (still cranking on that plan) I'll have to be even more careful
as that's an even higher frequency scream.....
LS
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Titan II SS
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Subject: | Re: ! Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
Lucien
I have a Sigtronics head set with the Headsets ANR kit in them. They help a
bunch but not enough so for a while I flew with ear plug also which caused
hearing problems when tying to communicate. Lately I have been using Sony
MDR-EX51LP headphones (like the MP3 players use) under my Sigtronics with
the ANR on. These things are super for voice clarity and reduce outside
noise almost as much as the foam ear plugs. No more ear ringing after
flying.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: ! Re: Landing video Kolb MK III
>
>
> John Hauck wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Lucien:
>>
>> I wish that were the case.
>>
>> My old headset is a DRE6000. It has a lot of hours on it, plus the rats
>> cut
>> the power cord. Since it happened just prior to the holidays, was a good
>> time to ask Santa Claus for a new one.
>>
>> My hearing has been bad since March 1966, from an incident in RVN. Was
>> able
>> to get through flight school and fly for many years dispite my hearing
>> loss,
>> but it is getting much worse, much sooner than I thought it would.
>>
>> Thank God for ANR! Without it, I would be lost.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>
>
> John, may I ask what RVN is?
>
> I'm a musician myself and have a slight hearing loss due to exposure to
> lots of loud but foul noise. In particular, I don't recover from loud
> noises nearly as well or as quickly as I used to. Even a short flight in
> the FSII as I recall with the old headset would leave me hearing impaired
> for a couple of days.
>
> On my last flight - short xcountry to taos and back to santa fe - even
> with the telex I noticed I was a little deef afterwards. I may start using
> earplugs even under the telex.....
>
> If I build a firefly (still cranking on that plan) I'll have to be even
> more careful as that's an even higher frequency scream.....
>
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221639#221639
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS |
Can't you see a lot better with the exhaust manifold removed?
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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In a message dated 12/29/2008 8:29:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nahsikhs@elltel.net writes:
Does anyone have an idea on how to fish a fogging oil spray can plastic
extension tube out of the crankcase on a 503?
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Subject: | Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> ......SNIP.....
>
>
> We have a beautiful day in Alabama. Sun shine, CAVU!
>
> Got a new DRE6000 ANR headset for Xmas to replace my old one.
>
> ......SNIP.....
>
>
John et al:
I also have a DRE6000 that has proved to be very effective. Since it has not always
been handled gently, I have been absolutely paranoid since Avionics West
of TN stopped carrying them and I couldn't find them elsewhere.
So John, where did Santa find you a DRE6000?
Happy 2009 to everyone!
We have the same beautiful day in SW FL!
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George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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- Lucien- RVN is Republic of Viet Nam.-John spent some time there.
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Subject: | Re: Landing video Kolb MK III |
> So John, where did Santa find you a DRE6000?
> --------
> George Alexander
George A/Gang:
Santa found the DRE-6000 at Aircraft Spruce.
Yes, I had the same feelings as you when DRE went out of business.
I had tried a $800.00 David Clark X headset that did not come up to the DRE
in my airplane. Finally, got my money back.
Here is the info and part number from Aircraft Spruce:
Aircraft Spruce and Specialty Co
Request For Quotation
Thank you for your request for quotation. We are pleased to offer the
DRE-6000 ENR HEADSET, part number 11-00543 at $359.95 USD . Please let us
know if there is anything else we can help you with.
To order, return to Aircraft Spruce electronic order form and add part
number 11-00543 to your shopping cart. The manufacturers minimum advertised
price (MAP) will be displayed when you place your order, but our order
processing server will change it to this quoted price when it sends your
confirmation.
We appreciate your interest in our company.
Happy New Year!
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. |
Can't see into the crankcase from the exhaust side, only the top of the side and
top of the piston.
I used a small mechanic's mirror to look around in there from the intake and could
see the little red bugger but managed to push it down out of sight trying
to grab it with a flex claw. Ended up taking the cylinder off to get it out. Just
ordered the gaskets to put the engine back together.
It was an expensive lesson from the school of hard knocks.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. |
> It was an expensive lesson from the school of hard knocks.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
Tom J:
Not a complete waste. Should have given you a good opportunity to inspect
the inside of the 503.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. |
> Not a complete waste. Should have given you a good opportunity to inspect
> the inside of the 503.
>
> john h
Yes, it is reassuring to see that everything is in order inside the noise maker.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. |
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV
Tom J:
What's a Classic IV?
john h
mkIII
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- John- Loved the sound of your engine on the fly-by.- Reminded me of t
he time my house got buzzed by a late model P-51, while I stood on the lawn
.- He did a hot pass at Bradley International and then circled around to
land, so I got to see him twice.- I live one mile off the end of the runw
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. |
> Tom J:
>
> What's a Classic IV?
Kitfox. Not too many people still use the 503 on a Kitfox so with engine questions
I usually ask the Kolb list too.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. |
> Kitfox. Not too many people still use the 503 on a Kitfox so with engine
questions I usually ask the Kolb list too.
> --------
> Tom Jones
Tom J:
Several years ago, Rick Neilsen, Scott Trask, John W and I flew from Iron
Mountain, MI, in a gaggle that included a 503 powered Kit Fox. Can't
remember the man's name that flew it, but he was a very big man. Kit Fox
did ok, but would not keep up with the MKIII and Kolbra.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: 503 engine fogging-OOPS-Update, got it. |
<gaggle that included a 503 powered Kit Fox.
The gaggle flew to OSH.
john h
mkIII
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