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1. 02:03 AM - Re: Re: Earnest Kellogg Gann (pj.ladd)
2. 03:26 AM - ethenol (Ted Cowan)
3. 07:00 AM - alcohol (zeprep251@aol.com)
4. 07:29 AM - Re: ethenol (Jack B. Hart)
5. 08:34 AM - Re: ethenol (John Hauck)
6. 09:40 AM - Re: ethenol (Jack B. Hart)
7. 12:20 PM - Re: Ernest Kellogg Gann (Ed Chmielewski)
8. 12:37 PM - Re: Ernest Kellogg Gann (boyd)
9. 12:59 PM - Re: Ernest Kellogg Gann (russ kinne)
10. 03:41 PM - MK3X Flap Bell Crank Pivot (Rick Lewis)
11. 04:22 PM - MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment (Rick Lewis)
12. 07:34 PM - Re: ethenol (Jim Baker)
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| Subject: | Re: Earnest Kellogg Gann |
That's the least we can do.>>
Sorry Russ,
My fault. I mentioned Gann and couldn`t remember his initials. Someone among
the dozens who were quick to help me out must have made an error.
I should have looked it up in the first place
Cheers
Pat
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I know most of you think I am just pulling someone's chain about Sta-bil and
its ethanol additive. I have been using it in most all my stuff since it
came out. (used the stuff from a marine supplier first, same stuff) I
bought some alki mixed gas -- about all we have here, checked it for alki
with my olive/water bottle checker and yep, ten percent or thereabouts. Put
1/2 ounce of sta-bil for ethanol in it and checked it again. Wow, showed NO
alki. The bubbles and stuff settled quicker and the water DID NOT MIX and
the alki stayed mixed just like the web site said. That means that as long
as the alki stays mixed with the gas, it cannot hurt you. If it comes
unmixed as it does without the sta-bil, you got water collection time and a
good chance of chewing up a large chunk of alki straight to your pistons.
That of course, might lead to a very dry situation in the cylinder and a
stuck piston or at least some stuck rings. So, gents, what I am saying is
that this stuff really works. Anybody out there that is willing to take the
chance without it, well, you gonna find out how right I am sooner or later.
You WILL get scuffed pistons and the like without the additive. Besides
that, it supposedly keeps the fuel from degrading and I gotta tell you, in
this weird cold/hot/wet/dry weather we are having of late, well, it
definately stablizes it cause my 912 starts right up and that is better than
last year. I have already had to replace the gas lines in my garden tractor
because of that alki. Using it all the time now. Try it, you'll like it.
Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot, 912UL.
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Not sure about this,but the addition of Xylene, Toluene and N-hexane in unleaded
gas to help keep the alcohol from separating may be more of a problem than just
the alky alone.It seems like the older planes with sloshed tanks have a great
deal of trouble with car gas.The slosh comes off and pollutes the fuel system.
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Two Cyclers,
Another option is to use Opti-2. I have been using it for several years.
It is smoke free, contains a fuel stabilizer, and it is ethanol compatible.
You can check it out at:
http://www.opti2-4.com
More snow.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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> Another option is to use Opti-2. I have been using it for several years.
> It is smoke free, contains a fuel stabilizer, and it is ethanol
> compatible.
> You can check it out at:
>
> http://www.opti2-4.com
>
> More snow.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
Jack:
$15.00 a quart (actually 34 oz) is too spendy for me, 2 or 4 stroke.
How does "chemical rebuild" work?
john h
mkIII
Cabin fever!
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At 10:30 AM 1/13/09 -0600, you wrote:
>Jack:
>
> $15.00 a quart (actually 34 oz) is too spendy for me, 2 or 4 stroke.
>
>How does "chemical rebuild" work?
>
John,
I buy it in the five gallon pails. Cuts the cost about in half. As far as
the "chemical rebuild", I don't know. It appears to be a detergent
additive. I don't see a need for it in a 2-cycle engine.
Supposed to get more snow tomorrow, and then the temperature is to drop well
below zero over the weekend. Looks like more basement shop and read a book
time.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Ernest Kellogg Gann |
Hi Mike,
Also had an ex-Gann plane sighting a few years ago, about 1975/76.
Happened at Toledo Suburban (DUH), was taxiing by some T-hangars and saw an
open one with a rather odd seaplane twin being gone over by its owner.
Plane looked a little like a Republic Twin Bee, but wasn't. Twin pusher
engines behind gull-wings and a rounded nose, very odd. Turned out not only
was it a very elegant Piaggio Royal Gull, but it was previously owned by
Gann who had carried John Wayne and other celebs on occasional fishing
trips.
Anyone flying Kolbs north of the Mason-Dixon line this week?
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:38 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ernest Kellogg Gann
>
>
> Yes, Russ, as a matter of fact, it is worth mentioning. Thanks.
>
> Since good ol' Ernest seems to be of significant interest to a few, I
> thought I'd pass this little trivia along.
>
> Ernest Gann, and his wife, purchased a 1961 green and white Cessna 310
> (new). Along the sides of the plane, near the cockpit, was the name "Noon
> Balloon". Evidently Ernest liked sleeping in quite late, and was in fact,
> known for showing up for morning appointments around noon, hence the name
> Noon Balloon.
> He, and his wife, often flew this 310 around the world, and it played a
> part in his adventures and stories.
>
> Around 1993, a good flying buddy of mine, Sturl Brunnel, bought Gann's
> Cessna 310, and parked it next to my first Cessna 172 on the ramp of our
> local airport, O45 (Nut Tree Airport, Vacaville, CA). I saw one day that
> Sturl had sold the plane, and told me some guy living in Florida bought
> it.
> I have flown in the Noon Balloon two times. A bunch of us Vacaville
> pilots used to fly our planes to our near-by airports and get a burger. I
> hitched a ride with Sturl a couple of times.
>
> A few days ago, I did an Internet search to see what happened to the
> "Noon Balloon", and there an article about a guy that now has it in the
> back of his hangar, with plans to make it the "finest 310 in the world",
> he says. I saw that he was located in Florida.
>
> Best regards,
> Mike Welch
> MkIII
>
>
>> From: russ@rkiphoto.com
>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Earnest Kellogg Gann
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:06:07 -0500
>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>
>>
>> Hey list, just a trifle, and probably not even worth mentioning --
>> but I hate to see anyone mis-spelling a man's name, and repeatedly too.
>> It's ERNEST Gann, (and ERNEST Hemingway too), not EARNEST -- No "A"
>> Both very good writers, and they deserve to have their names spelled
>> right.
>> That's the least we can do.
>> Russ Kinne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Ernest Kellogg Gann |
Don't know where the Mason-Dixon line is,,,,, but we are flying in Brigham
City Ut. 50 miles north of Salt Lake City
[Boyd]
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| Subject: | Re: Ernest Kellogg Gann |
There was a Piaggio Royal Gull flying in the Cleveland OH area many
years ago. Not many around, maybe same one?
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On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Ed Chmielewski wrote:
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Also had an ex-Gann plane sighting a few years ago, about
> 1975/76. Happened at Toledo Suburban (DUH), was taxiing by some T-
> hangars and saw an open one with a rather odd seaplane twin being
> gone over by its owner. Plane looked a little like a Republic Twin
> Bee, but wasn't. Twin pusher engines behind gull-wings and a
> rounded nose, very odd. Turned out not only was it a very elegant
> Piaggio Royal Gull, but it was previously owned by Gann who had
> carried John Wayne and other celebs on occasional fishing trips.
> Anyone flying Kolbs north of the Mason-Dixon line this week?
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
> Do not archive.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welch"
> <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:38 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Ernest Kellogg Gann
>
>
>>
>>
>> Yes, Russ, as a matter of fact, it is worth mentioning. Thanks.
>>
>> Since good ol' Ernest seems to be of significant interest to a
>> few, I thought I'd pass this little trivia along.
>>
>> Ernest Gann, and his wife, purchased a 1961 green and white
>> Cessna 310 (new). Along the sides of the plane, near the cockpit,
>> was the name "Noon Balloon". Evidently Ernest liked sleeping in
>> quite late, and was in fact, known for showing up for morning
>> appointments around noon, hence the name Noon Balloon.
>> He, and his wife, often flew this 310 around the world, and it
>> played a part in his adventures and stories.
>>
>> Around 1993, a good flying buddy of mine, Sturl Brunnel, bought
>> Gann's Cessna 310, and parked it next to my first Cessna 172 on
>> the ramp of our local airport, O45 (Nut Tree Airport, Vacaville,
>> CA). I saw one day that Sturl had sold the plane, and told me
>> some guy living in Florida bought it.
>> I have flown in the Noon Balloon two times. A bunch of us
>> Vacaville pilots used to fly our planes to our near-by airports
>> and get a burger. I hitched a ride with Sturl a couple of times.
>>
>> A few days ago, I did an Internet search to see what happened to
>> the "Noon Balloon", and there an article about a guy that now has
>> it in the back of his hangar, with plans to make it the "finest
>> 310 in the world", he says. I saw that he was located in Florida.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Mike Welch
>> MkIII
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: russ@rkiphoto.com
>>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Earnest Kellogg Gann
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:06:07 -0500
>>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey list, just a trifle, and probably not even worth mentioning --
>>> but I hate to see anyone mis-spelling a man's name, and
>>> repeatedly too.
>>> It's ERNEST Gann, (and ERNEST Hemingway too), not EARNEST -- No "A"
>>> Both very good writers, and they deserve to have their names spelled
>>> right.
>>> That's the least we can do.
>>> Russ Kinne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Windows Live: Keep your life in sync.
>> http://windowslive.com/explore?
>> ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | MK3X Flap Bell Crank Pivot |
I have attached pictures of the bronze bushing pivot point I have installed on
my MK3X in the flap bell-crank area. In my opinion everyone should consider doing
this also. This can only be done by making addition brackets to hold the
bushing as I have done. There is not enough metal available to simply install
the bushing to the existing metal tang area. This modification is easy to do
as your building the plane but not easily modified on existing aircraft as the
hinges would have to be shifted over because of the thickness of the new plate
that holds the bushing. I can see excessive wear in this area without the
bushings. I have installed bushings in the elevator to boom tube also.
Rick Lewis
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| Subject: | MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment |
This picture shows what can happen if you build the ailerons exactly as shown in
the plans. Since the MK3X uses a cable to move the ailerons there is a 90 degree
bracket in the wing where the cable bolts to. This cable needs to be in
good alignment with the bell crank on the aileron. This bell crank is attached
to the middle rib on the aileron. If you build the aileron up as shown in
the plans you will end up with a problem as shown in the picture. The fix is
to mount the 90 degree bracket on standoffs, install another rib next to the one
shown or DON'T put this rib in place until after your ready to align the cable
hook up. BUMMER [Shocked]
Rick Lewis
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> Another option is to use Opti-2. I have been using it for several years.
> It is smoke free, contains a fuel stabilizer, and it is ethanol compatible.
> You can check it out at:
This is not an ad for OPTI-2...though that is what I also use....but
rather an endorsement of what a good 100:1 oil will do for you. 500
hours and absolutely no coke or carbon. No teardowns to de-
carbon...there isn't any. Only one spark plug change at 350 hrs, and
didn't really need to do that since plugs looked like a four stroke's
would.
The dirty secret of almost all 50:1 oils is that they are cut about
25 to 30% with Stoddards solvent to promote miscibility...and here
you thought it was all lubricant. In reality the 50:1 oils are
running about 65-70:1 ratios, fuel to lubricant.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
405. 426.5377 cell
Elmore City, OK
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