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1. 03:52 AM - Re: Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes (pj.ladd)
2. 04:17 AM - Re: HKS flight (pj.ladd)
3. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment (Rick Lewis)
5. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes (Dana Hague)
6. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes (robert bean)
7. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 09:46 AM - Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes (planecrazzzy)
9. 09:47 AM - Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes (planecrazzzy)
10. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes (Jack B. Hart)
11. 10:48 AM - Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants (Nelson, Craig)
12. 11:28 AM - Any Kolbers on Facebook? (R. Hankins)
13. 12:58 PM - Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Eugene Zimmerman)
14. 01:00 PM - Re: HKS flight (Dana Hague)
15. 01:22 PM - Re: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants (Larry Cottrell)
16. 02:54 PM - Re: MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment (Rick Lewis)
17. 03:09 PM - Weights of Parts We Like (Rick Lewis)
18. 03:30 PM - Re: Weights of Parts We Like (icrashrc)
19. 03:33 PM - New pages added (icrashrc)
20. 03:39 PM - Re: Windshield Installation (icrashrc)
21. 03:43 PM - Re: New pages added (robert bean)
22. 06:55 PM - Another Windshield Install Question (Rick Lewis)
23. 07:16 PM - Re: Another Windshield Install Question (John Hauck)
24. 07:45 PM - Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (grantr)
25. 07:46 PM - Re: Weights of Parts We Like (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
26. 07:47 PM - Re: Another Windshield Install Question (Mike Welch)
27. 08:00 PM - Re: Another Windshield Install Question (Mike Welch)
28. 08:08 PM - Re: Weights of Parts We Like (herb)
29. 08:19 PM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (lucien)
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| Subject: | Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes |
The way the fabric is attached to the fuselage depends upon the designer/
manufacturer of the aircraft and the fabric makers finishing system.>>
Hi,
there is talk here in the UK of precoloured fabric/plastic aircraft
covering.
That would be pretty neat. Shrink it on in the usual way with no spray
problems etc. to follow.
Cheers
Pat
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Over here, USA, our sectional charts are based on elevation above sea
level.>>
Hi John,
thanks. Here in this little counry it is a bit simpler. Flying charts
are available in quarter million and half million and 8 quarter mil or
3 half mil charts cover the whole country. Heights are shown above sea
level but of course only for `proper` airfields
Obviously pressure changes across the country but usually one decent
sized High or one Low covers the UK.and 3 Regiional Pressure areas are
enough. There are a couple of publications which give details of
airfields. Height, runway details, fuel available etc and one
publication which covers farm strips. These are usually Prior Permission
only which means you ring up before you leave to make sure that there
are no sheep wandering around the airfield and that the strip has been
cut.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes |
cristal it would be a good idea for you to buy a Stits Poly fiber manual it
would save you a bunch of questions about Fabric, Finishing Tapes, anti
Chafe tapes, Paint,Poly Brush,poly Spray and How to use all of this and You
would learn how to keep your Kolb in super shape with first hand knowledge
Ellery in Maine
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In a message dated 1/16/2009 10:26:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cristalclearwaters@gmail.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "cristalclear13"
<cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
Boyd, It doesn't appear that any paint (or primer) was applied to these
tubes...I didn't build this plane...bought it used.
Mike (planecrazzzy), If the chafing tape doesn't go here, where would it go?
Mike and Bob, If the fabric is rubbing with the tube it can cause bits of
aluminum to come loose and oxidize and cause more abrasion. When the aluminum
oxide mixes with EITHER water or oil it makes an oily-looking substance. I
mix my gas and oil so it's not like I have an oil leak and especially not
there. The condensation inside the cage or perhaps even from the inside of the
steel tubing coming out where it runs into the aluminum tubing could add water
to the mix.
Bob, don't be impressed...I just listened closely in Mike Huffman's
repairman class.
Carlos, I will check for looseness. Is that what most people do...glue the
fabric to the tubes? I will check tomorrow (if I can brave the cold South
Georgia weather). Mine may have been glued originally and maybe the glue has
deteriorated.
zeprep251(at)aol.com (name?), 12.584% of my cage is AL. (see attachment)
[Wink] [Wink]
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| Subject: | Re: MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment |
Here is my fix for the problem. This actually turned out to be an excellent way
to precisely align the cable. The spacer is 1.25x1.25 aluminum tubing
Rick Lewis
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| Subject: | Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes |
At 06:51 AM 1/17/2009, pj.ladd wrote:
>there is talk here in the UK of precoloured fabric/plastic aircraft covering.
>
>That would be pretty neat. Shrink it on in the usual way with no spray
>problems etc. to follow.
I saw something like that not long ago, but I can't find the link.
R/C'ers, of course, have had that for years in "Coverite", a precolored
dacron fabric with heat sensitive adhesive on one side... you simply iron
it on; the heat activates the adhesive and shrinks the fabric in one easy
step. There's also "Monokote" (or the UK equivalent "Solarfilm"), a
similar product except it's mylar film (to easy to rip for a man carrying
aircraft!). Anyway, I'm pretty sure I saw something like this for full
sized aircraft, but where I don't know.
-Dana
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The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine, bracing and
delicious. And why shouldn't it be? -- it is the same the angels
breathe.
- Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes |
If you can manage to clean off the discoloration with a brush and
detergent then you should be able
to prevent further fretting with a strip of hardware store GOOP
cement in the problem area.
BB
On 17, Jan 2009, at 6:51 AM, pj.ladd wrote:
>
> The way the fabric is attached to the fuselage depends upon the
> designer/ manufacturer of the aircraft and the fabric makers
> finishing system.>>
>
> Hi,
> there is talk here in the UK of precoloured fabric/plastic aircraft
> covering.
>
> That would be pretty neat. Shrink it on in the usual way with no
> spray problems etc. to follow.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment |
Rick
You are one of the first to use the new wing design and as happens these
bugs get worked out by.... you.
I have some concerns about your fix. My pet peeve is weight. I was a
stickler about the little things. A bunch of little weight savings add up to
real savings. Your fix adds weight.
The second is a minor concern about the stress this stand off would add to
the cable bracket mount in the wing. It was designed to handle the load of
aileron deflection bolted directly to the mount. Your stand off would add a
leverage arm to that load maybe overloading or flexing the mount. I can't
see much about how it is made and I can't see if you had added a gusset to
carry the additional flexing load.
Is there any way you could move the mount to align with the bell crank?
Again I can't see how it is attached or what it is attached to.
As always, the advice is worth what you paid for it.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman@hughes.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:54 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment
>
> Here is my fix for the problem. This actually turned out to be an
> excellent way to precisely align the cable. The spacer is 1.25x1.25
> aluminum tubing
>
> Rick Lewis
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225267#225267
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| Subject: | Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes |
Years ago there was a couple of guys who flew to the Arctic circle
Their planes had the plastic film like Monokote.... They had to do some repairs
up there.... needed to get into the Hanger... Very TALL doors on the hanger...
it said just to open the doors cost them $750 bucks...
I wonder if it cost that much to let them back out...?
You'd think they'll have a small hanger door on the side... Sheeees
Gotta Fly...
.
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>
> there is talk here in the UK of precoloured fabric/plastic aircraft covering.
>
> That would be pretty neat. Shrink it on in the usual way with no spray problems
etc. to follow.
> I saw something like that not long ago, but I can't find the link.
>
> R/C'ers, of course, have had that for years in "Coverite", a precolored dacron
fabric with heat sensitive adhesive on one side... you simply iron it on; the
heat activates the adhesive and shrinks the fabric in one easy step. There's
also "Monokote" (or the UK equivalent "Solarfilm"), a similar product except
it's mylar film (to easy to rip for a man carrying aircraft!). Anyway, I'm
pretty sure I saw something like this for full sized aircraft, but where I don't
know.
>
> -Dana
> --
> The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine, bracing and
> delicious. And why shouldn't it be? -- it is the same the angels
> breathe.
>
> - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes |
Hey Bob... I'd bet Bathroom silocone would do the job...
Gotta Fly...
slyck(at)frontiernet.net wrote:
> If you can manage to clean off the discoloration with a brush and
> detergent then you should be able
> to prevent further fretting with a strip of hardware store GOOP
> cement in the problem area.
> BB
>
> On 17, Jan 2009, at 6:51 AM, pj.ladd wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > The way the fabric is attached to the fuselage depends upon the
> > designer/ manufacturer of the aircraft and the fabric makers
> > finishing system.>>
> >
> > Hi,
> > there is talk here in the UK of precoloured fabric/plastic aircraft
> > covering.
> >
> > That would be pretty neat. Shrink it on in the usual way with no
> > spray problems etc. to follow.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: fabric rubbing on cage tubes |
Cristal,
May be I missed it. It seems that if fabric tension was high enough, it
could/would not fret. Can you push the fabric away from the tube? If so, I
would try heating the fabric and try to shrink and increase fabric tension.
It is easy to see if it is working by thunking the fabric and listening for
a higher pitched response. It may be worth a try.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Any Kolbers on Facebook? |
I recently started a Facebook page. If you are unfamiliar with Facebook, take
a look. I've been wanting my own website for a long time to post flying picture,
but never got around to it. Facebook gives me quite a bit of space to do that.
Here is a link to the photos:
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| Subject: | Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? |
Roger,
Fantastic Pictures !
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:25 PM, R. Hankins wrote:
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> I recently started a Facebook page. If you are unfamiliar with
> Facebook, take a look. I've been wanting my own website for a long
> time to post flying picture, but never got around to it. Facebook
> gives me quite a bit of space to do that. Here is a link to the
> photos:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid 03527&id=1174278290
>
> If you have a facebook page, feel free to add me as a friend.
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> 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C
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At 07:15 AM 1/17/2009, pj.ladd wrote:
>Over here, USA, our sectional charts are based on elevation above sea level.>>
>
>Hi John,
>thanks. Here in this little counry it is a bit simpler. Flying charts are
>available in quarter million and half million and 8 quarter mil or 3 half
>mil charts cover the whole country. Heights are shown above sea level but
>of course only for `proper` airfields
But you still need to set your altimeter to sea level in order to enter the
traffic pattern at the correct altitude at any destination airport other
than where you took off from, no?
I don't think your charts are all that different from ours. Ours show some
private airfields, if the owner wishes it to be charted. Some are truly
prior permission required; others are "private" for liability reasons but
visitors are welcome.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants |
Hi to all from uncle craig and milow tim Looking forward to MV put in
for vacation yesterday
Uncle Craig
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Hey Craig, why don't you and MT come on up with John H to the Rock
house and we can give those suckers a real world test. :-) If they were
pointer on the front end wouldn't they part the sage brush a bit better?
Seriously though they look great, just a little too "purty" for here
though.
Larry C, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: MK3X Aileron Cable Bracket Misalignment |
Rick
The stand off is a piece of 1.25x1.25 piece of square tubing there fore the
lever arm, your talking about, is only 1.25". I believe this is a good fix
and will not cause any problems. As far as adding weight, well your right but
not much I can do about it in this case. The rib in the aileron was already
riveted in place by the time I got to this stage. If I had only know this was
going to happen, I would have waited to put this rib in place and moved it where
it really needed to be. I'm hoping that future builders will take note of
this. I like this kind of feedback it keeps me on my toes and is appreciated.
Talking about weights, I'm about to post the weight added by those lovely wing
tips and fiberglass tub seat. I try to watch my weights also, you just have
to, little things sure do add up as a whole.
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| Subject: | Weights of Parts We Like |
Sometime back I read in this forum that people are wishing they had those beautiful
fiberglass wing tips on their plane. I haven't heard anyone mention the
nice fiberglass tub seat that now used on the MK3X. For those of you that really
would like to have the two items but don't want to go to the trouble or expense
to have them then let me make you feel better about not having them at all.
The weight added to your plane using the new wing tips is 15 pounds. The
weight of the nice fiberglass bucket seats are 14 pounds. ( I think Rick Neilson
just passed out). I will be installing both of these items on my plane because
they are nice and pretty and supplied with the kit. Leave your wing tips
alone and keep the nice light weight sling seats. :D
Rick Lewis
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| Subject: | Re: Weights of Parts We Like |
Wingtips...
While 15lbs. seems a little heavy [ours weigh 4 lbs each] that's still only 1.5
lbs. added for each square foot of usable wing area added. That's a pretty good
trade in my book.
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I just added a couple more pages to the website.
http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/control_sticks.htm
and
http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/windshield_installation.htm
Questions or comments always welcome,
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield Installation |
I've started the windshield installation page.
http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/windshield_installation.htm
My saber saw works well for cutting Lexan. The Plexiglas drill bit from Aircraft
Spruce also works well. Thanks to all for the help and suggestions.
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| Subject: | Re: New pages added |
We will be interested in your all up weight.
BB
On 17, Jan 2009, at 6:32 PM, icrashrc wrote:
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> I just added a couple more pages to the website.
>
> http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/control_sticks.htm
> and
> http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/windshield_installation.htm
>
> Questions or comments always welcome,
>
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> www.ill-EagleAviation.com
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| Subject: | Another Windshield Install Question |
I didn't want my question to get lost in the other windshield install post so I'm
making another one.
I will be installing my windows soon and am wondering if once the windshield
is clamped into place can you apply heat with heat lamps at a distance so the
lexan would take the shape of the bend. It seams like a mild heat would make
the lexan take the new shape and therefore would not have continuous strain
on the rivets. Maybe this happens naturally over time, out in the sun. Whats
ya think?
Rick Lewis
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| Subject: | Re: Another Windshield Install Question |
> I will be installing my windows soon and am wondering if once the
> windshield is clamped into place can you apply heat with heat lamps at a
> distance so the lexan would take the shape of the bend. It seams like a
> mild heat would make the lexan take the new shape and therefore would not
> have continuous strain on the rivets. Maybe this happens naturally over
> time, out in the sun. Whats ya think?
>
> Rick Lewis
Hi Rick L:
The way I see it, a rivet, if pulled properly, will always be under strain,
no matter what the application. My experience, after installing and
removing many of my own Kolb windshields, is the Lexan will not necessarily
take on the shape it has been in after many years. I would not use heat on
Lexan to stress relieve it.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
I had my 1st big challenge today with wind! The forecast was for 5mph winds however
the wind was low but gusty and turbulent at times and variable in direction.
On my final I checked the AWOS and it had winds at 7knots from 180o and I
was landing on 23.
The air was a bit rough descending down through 500 to 100 feet and the wind was
pushing me away from centerline. I had the plane in a crap on most of the
approach keeping center. Once I got lower 100 feet I went to the slide slip.
It took a boot full or right rudder to get the nose straight with the runway.
I think I was close to max deflection. Of course once the nose is straight ailerons
have to be turned into the wind or the dreaded side drift occurs. Anyway
i used power all the way down to flair.
I usually approach 65 mph to 70 I used 75 to 80 on this one. All was looking pretty
good until I backed off the power. At this point I am in the round out stage
and as the speed decreases I start drifting again and the nose starts trying
to go into the wind again.
After a bit of fighting the wind I touch down ok but the plane bounces back up
about 10 to 15 feet. I chase it with power touch down again bounce again and finally
touch down one last time and stay planted!
Asphalt seem to aggravate cross wind landing a good bit over grass.
What method do you guys use during cross wind landings crab or sideslip?
Any suggestions for me? i know I need more practice for one since I am
a low time pilot.
Grant
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| Subject: | Re: Weights of Parts We Like |
Rick
I just woke up wow are your saying 29 lbs!!!! You have enough power to
overcome this but be careful the best flying planes are the light ones. My
VW powered MKIIIC weighs 498Lbs and I forgot to remove my survival kit when
I weighed it. I was real careful adjusting every bolt. No more than three
threads showing. My Diehl accessory case has more holes than a block of
swiss cheese and is missing two ears. The big redrive bolt 3/4 inch? had ten
threads showing so I cut off 7.
I have looked and sat in the MKIIIX bucket seats. They are super but 14lbs!
Look at the shell of this seat. Trim it where you can. If some of it
overhangs the mounts by 1/2 inch cut it off. If there is a low stress areas
covered by fabric start drilling holes.
My rule is if it doesn't serve a function get rid of it.
Just because it is riveted in plane in place doesn't mean it can't be moved.
You do know how to drill out rivets?
Rick Neilsen
1st Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman@hughes.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Weights of Parts We Like
>
> Sometime back I read in this forum that people are wishing they had those
> beautiful fiberglass wing tips on their plane. I haven't heard anyone
> mention the nice fiberglass tub seat that now used on the MK3X. For those
> of you that really would like to have the two items but don't want to go
> to the trouble or expense to have them then let me make you feel better
> about not having them at all. The weight added to your plane using the
> new wing tips is 15 pounds. The weight of the nice fiberglass bucket
> seats are 14 pounds. ( I think Rick Neilson just passed out). I will be
> installing both of these items on my plane because they are nice and
> pretty and supplied with the kit. Leave your wing tips alone and keep the
> nice light weight sling seats. :D
>
> Rick Lewis
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225366#225366
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Another Windshield Install Question |
> I will be installing my windows soon and am wondering if once the windshield
is clamped into place can you apply heat with heat lamps at a distance so the
lexan would take the shape of the bend. It seams like a mild heat would make the
lexan take the new shape and therefore would not have continuous strain on
the rivets. Maybe this happens naturally over time, out in the sun. Whats ya think?
>
> Rick Lewis
Rick,
My MkIII spent this last summer on my large flatbed trailer, outside, in the
sun, with a 10 mil black visqueen cover. I was building my shop at the time.
My windshield was installed with clecos only. I checked underneath the visqueen
a couple of times, and the heat was phenominal! My guess would be it was
160 degrees in there. Maybe more!! I had spiders and bugs that crawled in the
fuselage, and immediately died from heat exhaustion.
The main point I'm making is that the windshield was so hot you could literally
fry an egg on it.
A few days ago I unclecoed it, and took it off, to get ready for some fuselage
paint. It has a slight curve to it. After a few months of unmercifully hot,
scorching, black visqueen covered heat, it barely has a curve in it.
What this tells me is , is that for you to obtain any "real" curve to it, like
enough to relieve the stress on the rivets, this would take an enourmous EVEN
heat. I can not imagine you could do it without ruining the clarity.
My advice would be to not try it. Can it be done under very precise controlled
conditions, yes. But, can you that at your shop? Probably not, and darn sure
not for the trouble, the risk, or the gain.
Shaping and forming Lexan, Plexiglass, and other polycarbinates can be done,
but it is usually by large commercial operations. You have to have an exact shape
you are after, heat the Lexan laying over your shape, to a precise temperature
for a few hours, and let it slowly mold itself onto the final shape you
want. Rather involved. Not impossible, just a lot of work.
Just my opinion,
Mike Welch
MkIII
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| Subject: | Another Windshield Install Question |
> I will be installing my windows soon and am wondering if once the windshield
is clamped into place can you apply heat with heat lamps at a distance so the
lexan would take the shape of the bend. It seams like a mild heat would make the
lexan take the new shape and therefore would not have continuous strain on
the rivets. Maybe this happens naturally over time, out in the sun. Whats ya think?
>
> Rick Lewis
Rick,
Oh yeah, one more thing. I noticed that when my windshield was clecoed in place,
it has a slight
ability to "indent" (flex in), if you push down hard enough in the middle. The
slight curve of the mounting may give the windshield an extra resistance to denting
due to the airstream pushing down on it.
If you took away some of the induced strength of this curved mounting method,
by preshaping it, I think it might be more likely to indent.
Just my thoughts on the matter,
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| Subject: | Re: Weights of Parts We Like |
That is good Rick....498 lbs...My very stock Kolb MkIII came in at
492 with no extras at all..and a 532 engine...Herb
At 09:45 PM 1/17/2009, you wrote:
><NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
>Rick
>
>I just woke up wow are your saying 29 lbs!!!! You have enough power
>to overcome this but be careful the best flying planes are the light
>ones. My VW powered MKIIIC weighs 498Lbs and I forgot to remove my
>survival kit when I weighed it. I was real careful adjusting every
>bolt. No more than three threads showing. My Diehl accessory case
>has more holes than a block of swiss cheese and is missing two ears.
>The big redrive bolt 3/4 inch? had ten threads showing so I cut off 7.
>
>I have looked and sat in the MKIIIX bucket seats. They are super but
>14lbs! Look at the shell of this seat. Trim it where you can. If
>some of it overhangs the mounts by 1/2 inch cut it off. If there is
>a low stress areas covered by fabric start drilling holes.
>
>My rule is if it doesn't serve a function get rid of it.
>
>Just because it is riveted in plane in place doesn't mean it can't
>be moved. You do know how to drill out rivets?
>
>Rick Neilsen
>1st Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman@hughes.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:08 PM
>Subject: Kolb-List: Weights of Parts We Like
>
>
>>
>>Sometime back I read in this forum that people are wishing they had
>>those beautiful fiberglass wing tips on their plane. I haven't
>>heard anyone mention the nice fiberglass tub seat that now used on
>>the MK3X. For those of you that really would like to have the two
>>items but don't want to go to the trouble or expense to have them
>>then let me make you feel better about not having them at all. The
>>weight added to your plane using the new wing tips is 15
>>pounds. The weight of the nice fiberglass bucket seats are 14
>>pounds. ( I think Rick Neilson just passed out). I will be
>>installing both of these items on my plane because they are nice
>>and pretty and supplied with the kit. Leave your wing tips alone
>>and keep the nice light weight sling seats. :D
>>
>>Rick Lewis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225366#225366
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
grantr wrote:
> I had my 1st big challenge today with wind! The forecast was for 5mph winds
however the wind was low but gusty and turbulent at times and variable in direction.
On my final I checked the AWOS and it had winds at 7knots from 180o and
I was landing on 23.
>
> The air was a bit rough descending down through 500 to 100 feet and the wind
was pushing me away from centerline. I had the plane in a crap on most of the
approach keeping center. Once I got lower 100 feet I went to the slide slip.
It took a boot full or right rudder to get the nose straight with the runway.
I think I was close to max deflection. Of course once the nose is straight ailerons
have to be turned into the wind or the dreaded side drift occurs. Anyway
i used power all the way down to flair.
>
> I usually approach 65 mph to 70 I used 75 to 80 on this one. All was looking
pretty good until I backed off the power. At this point I am in the round out
stage and as the speed decreases I start drifting again and the nose starts trying
to go into the wind again.
>
> After a bit of fighting the wind I touch down ok but the plane bounces back up
about 10 to 15 feet. I chase it with power touch down again bounce again and
finally touch down one last time and stay planted!
>
> Asphalt seem to aggravate cross wind landing a good bit over grass.
>
> What method do you guys use during cross wind landings crab or sideslip?
>
> Any suggestions for me? i know I need more practice for one since I am
> a low time pilot.
>
> Grant
I used the wing-low (sideslip) method in my FSII (and in all my 3-axis planes actually).
I like to get the slideslip going fairly early on final, mostly to see
how much rudder I'm going to have to hold and to stabilize the descent rate
as much as possible. I don't like the "crab and kick" method because the change
in sink rate can be abrupt and it doesn't give you time to get things stabilized.
I always did wheel landings in crosswinds and usually carried a little power as
well to keep a little extra energy in the equation....
Once in the sideslip I think left/right drift with aileron, fuse alignment with
ground track with feet.....
LS
--------
LS
Titan II SS
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