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1. 03:13 AM - Re: HKS flight (pj.ladd)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (Thom Riddle)
3. 07:02 AM - Altimeter setting and private fields, was: Re: HKS flight (Dana Hague)
4. 07:48 AM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (grantr)
5. 07:59 AM - Re: Another Windshield Install Question (Jack B. Hart)
6. 08:22 AM - Re: New pages added (VICTOR PETERS)
7. 08:32 AM - reincarnation/windshields (robert bean)
8. 09:07 AM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
9. 09:14 AM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (lucien)
10. 09:26 AM - Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (icrashrc)
11. 09:41 AM - Re: New pages added (icrashrc)
12. 09:46 AM - Re: New pages added (icrashrc)
13. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Larry Cottrell)
14. 10:16 AM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (chris davis)
15. 10:28 AM - Re: reincarnation/windshields ()
16. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (John Hauck)
17. 11:43 AM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (Beauford T)
18. 11:54 AM - Dave Bigelow Down (henry.voris)
19. 11:58 AM - Re: Dave Bigelow Down (John Hauck)
20. 11:59 AM - Re: reincarnation/windshields (robert bean)
21. 12:03 PM - Dave Bigelow (John Hauck)
22. 02:17 PM - Front Nose Skid Tube (Rick Lewis)
23. 03:11 PM - Re: Front Nose Skid Tube (planecrazzzy)
24. 03:27 PM - Re: Front Nose Skid Tube (Rick Lewis)
25. 03:32 PM - Re: C90 Brakes (Rick Lewis)
26. 03:38 PM - Re: Front Nose Skid Tube (grantr)
27. 03:47 PM - Re: Dave Bigelow Down (JetPilot)
28. 03:58 PM - Re: Re: Dave Bigelow Down (robert bean)
29. 03:58 PM - Re: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants (Nelson, Craig)
30. 04:23 PM - Re: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants (Dave Rains)
31. 04:36 PM - Re: Dave Bigelow down (william sullivan)
32. 05:01 PM - Re: Re: Dave Bigelow Down (Larry Cottrell)
33. 05:25 PM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (lucien)
34. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Robert Laird)
35. 07:50 PM - Re: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants (possums)
36. 10:03 PM - Re: Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (possums)
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But you still need to set your altimeter to sea level in order to enter
the
traffic pattern at the correct altitude at any destination airport other
than where you took off from, no?>>
Regional pressure (QNH) we would ordinarily set for x-country. All being
equal if you didnt change that and you landed at a field shown as 447ft
on your chart you would have 447ft on your altimeter.
Usually an airfield will give you the local pressure (QFE) along with
landing instructions. When you have landed your altimeter will show
zero.
The reason here for having `private` fields or PPR is usually not for
reasons of liability, which don`t feature as so important here as they
do for you. They are usually PPR so that landing instructions can be
given, `avoid flying over the village` `keep east of the railway line`
`watch for electricity pylons on the approach`. That sort of thing.
Sometimes it is because the local Council when giving permission for the
field to be used for flying have imposed a limit to the number of
landings and take offs per year.
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
Like Lucien, I much prefer slipping all the way down final and for the same reasons
he stated. Also, it appears to me that your bounce was at least partly due
to carrying more airspeed than ideal at touchdown.
The winds you experienced are considered calm to light in this part of the world.
That is not to belittle you or your landing in anyway, just to let you know
that with practice (like you are doing) most Kolbs can be safely landed in stronger
winds.
A few months ago there was a low-wing Piper (Cherokee or some a newer incarnation
of a Cherokee) wrecked at our airfield in gusting cross-winds. The private
pilot who recently earned her ticket refused to get serious cross-wind training
in wind conditions over her "personal minimums" not realizing how important
it is. When she left on this incident flight the winds were fairly light with
very little cross-wind component. When she returned, they were stronger, gusting
and directly across the runway. Instead of going to a nearby airport with wind-aligned
runway, she figured she could handle it without the training. She
got it down without injuring herself but the airplane was bent up. Practice is
the only way to learn these skills.
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N1208P RANS S6S, Tailwheel, 912UL
N197BG FS1/447
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At 06:12 AM 1/18/2009, pj.ladd wrote:
>
>Regional pressure (QNH) we would ordinarily set for x-country. All being
>equal if you didnt change that and you landed at a field shown as 447ft on
>your chart you would have 447ft on your altimeter.
>
>Usually an airfield will give you the local pressure (QFE) along with
>landing instructions. When you have landed your altimeter will show zero.
OK, that's different. Here the field would give you "altimeter setting"
which is always QNH. The "Q" codes aren't used much here.
> The reason here for having `private` fields or PPR is usually not for
> reasons of liability, which don`t feature as so important here as they do
> for you. They are usually PPR so that landing instructions can be given,
> `avoid flying over the village` `keep east of the railway line` `watch
> for electricity pylons on the approach`. That sort of thing. Sometimes it
> is because the local Council when giving permission for the field to be
> used for flying have imposed a limit to the number of landings and take
> offs per year.
Liability is certainly a factor, but the major reason for private fields
here is probably simply because the owner who has an airstrip behind his
house doesn't want to be bothered with a bunch of people flying in and
out. Listing a field for public use also may impose a higher standard of
required maintenance... if you land at a public airport and bend your
airplane rolling into a ditch across the runway you have good reason to be
upset; at a private field it's your own fault if you weren't supposed to
land there without prior permission anyway.
-Dana
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Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply.
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
Thanks guys. Yes I know 7kts is not too bad [Embarassed]
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Subject: | Re: Another Windshield Install Question |
At 06:54 PM 1/17/09 -0800, you wrote:
>
> I will be installing my windows soon and am wondering if once the
windshield is clamped into place can you apply heat with heat lamps at a
distance so the lexan would take the shape of the bend. It seams like a
mild heat would make the lexan take the new shape and therefore would not
have continuous strain on the rivets. Maybe this happens naturally over
time, out in the sun. Whats ya think?
>
Rick,
A few years back I was involved with the design and construction of TV
component manufacturing equipment. We hid numerical controls in out of the
way places and to protect them from dust and moisture we used thin lexan
covers. These covers were mechanically formed up using sheet metal forming
equipment. Thin lexan will form a permanent right angle bend with out
cracking.
I believe that if you used some blankets for surface protection and a few
two by fours on a smooth garage floor, plus the front wheel of a car, you
could bend your windshield to the desired curvature.
Before trying heat, I would check out what it does to a piece of scrap.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: New pages added |
Scott,
I noticed a third brace- support for the elevator tube that connects
to both control
sticks. I could use one as I have a little play. Did you add it or do
they come that way?
Any suggestions as how to install one after the fact? Anyone?
Vic
MKIIIX 912
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Subject: | reincarnation/windshields |
several years ago my MkIII had:
1. a 912 engine
2 a different cage/nose
3. a different left wing
4. a simple curve windshield
cote
now:
a suzuki engine (BTW those two blades came from the original prop)
two bend windshield
been through a lot but still flies
-BB
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
Grant
I tend to land using the technique you describe. During my pilot training I
was taught to retract flaps during cross wind landings to increase control
effectiveness due to increased landing speed.
Grass runways are always easer for Kolbs to land on so use them were they
are available.
Also due to our low stall speeds we have the ability to land across the
runway when the winds pick up. Be considerate of landing patterns by staying
in the same orientation of the runway as normal till short final. Set up for
landing as if you are going to land on the down wind side of the runway and
use your flaps. On short final when you are between runway lights turn into
the wind and land on the runway. Again common sense prevails. In the
situation you talked about landing maybe 10 degrees off runway direction and
more into the wind would have helped without shortening your runway length
enough to bother you.
I have landed in winds using these techniques where I couldn't taxi without
a few unintended 360s.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:44 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing
>
> I had my 1st big challenge today with wind! The forecast was for 5mph
> winds however the wind was low but gusty and turbulent at times and
> variable in direction. On my final I checked the AWOS and it had winds at
> 7knots from 180o and I was landing on 23.
>
> The air was a bit rough descending down through 500 to 100 feet and the
> wind was pushing me away from centerline. I had the plane in a crap on
> most of the approach keeping center. Once I got lower 100 feet I went to
> the slide slip. It took a boot full or right rudder to get the nose
> straight with the runway. I think I was close to max deflection. Of course
> once the nose is straight ailerons have to be turned into the wind or the
> dreaded side drift occurs. Anyway i used power all the way down to flair.
>
> I usually approach 65 mph to 70 I used 75 to 80 on this one. All was
> looking pretty good until I backed off the power. At this point I am in
> the round out stage and as the speed decreases I start drifting again and
> the nose starts trying to go into the wind again.
>
> After a bit of fighting the wind I touch down ok but the plane bounces
> back up about 10 to 15 feet. I chase it with power touch down again bounce
> again and finally touch down one last time and stay planted!
>
> Asphalt seem to aggravate cross wind landing a good bit over grass.
>
> What method do you guys use during cross wind landings crab or sideslip?
>
> Any suggestions for me? i know I need more practice for one since I am
> a low time pilot.
>
> Grant
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225412#225412
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
grantr wrote:
> Thanks guys. Yes I know 7kts is not too bad [Embarassed]
Well in my FSII if it was shifty or gusty, even winds around 7kts could be challenging.
I had to drive it onto the runway a few times in gusty xwinds, basically
flying the thing all the way down to taxi speeds and even to the hangar.
Landing too hot really is kind of dangerous. I adopted the half the gust factor
speed increase only, and carried some power into the flare instead. I do that
in my current plane as well rather than really try to come in hot. What you want
is energy available in those dips that happen in the flare so you can prevent
whacking the ground. But you also want the plane flying as little as possible
once the wheels are on the ground....
LS
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Titan II SS
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Subject: | Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? |
You need to join to see. Bummer...
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Scott
www.ill-EagleAviation.com
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Subject: | Re: New pages added |
As will I. Right now all of our mods add up to an added 22lbs. On the other hand
Rick Lewis just posted the that the factory wingtips and seatpan add 29 lbs.
so we're still ahead of that game. I'll post total weight when we complete the
plane.
slyck(at)frontiernet.net wrote:
> We will be interested in your all up weight.
> BB
>
>
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Scott
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Subject: | Re: New pages added |
That third brace was part of the dual control stick option. Dennis @ Kolb had already
put that on as it's captured during his welding of the assembly.
[quote="vicsv(at)verizon.net"]Scott,
I noticed a third brace- support for the elevator tube that connects to both
control
sticks. I could use one as I have a little play. Did you add it or do they come
that way?
Any suggestions as how to install one after the fact? Anyone?
Vic
MKIIIX 912
> [b]
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Subject: | Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? |
----- Original Message -----
From: icrashrc
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
You need to join to see. Bummer...
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Scott
Agreed, it is a pain in the butt, but since I had another friend
bugging me to do it, I bit the bullet and did so.
Larry C, Oregon
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
Hi guys , I come from cape cod ma. and most of my 492 hrs were flown in 15
to 25 mph wind and as- I learned to fly in a glider and got my private gl
ider license in a switzer 233 I learned having only one wheel to use the cr
ab aproach and it worked well for me in my Firestar KXP even a Strong cross
wind but I must admit to using the entire with of the runway some days lan
ding as much as 25 degrees across the runway but at way below 70mph I mean
closer to45 -50- just my 2 cents . Chris=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________
______________=0AFrom: Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>=0AT
o: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:06:09 PM=0AS
ubject: Re: Kolb-List: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing=0A=0A--> Kolb-Lis
t message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>=0A
=0AGrant=0A=0AI tend to land using the technique you describe. During my pi
lot training I was taught to retract flaps during cross wind landings to in
crease control effectiveness due to increased landing speed.=0A=0AGrass run
ways are always easer for Kolbs to land on so use them were they are availa
ble.=0A=0AAlso due to our low stall speeds we have the ability to land acro
ss the runway when the winds pick up. Be considerate of landing patterns by
staying in the same orientation of the runway as normal till short final.
Set up for landing as if you are going to land on the down wind side of the
runway and use your flaps. On short final when you are between runway ligh
ts turn into the wind and land on the runway. Again common sense prevails.
In the situation you talked about landing maybe 10 degrees off runway direc
tion and more into the wind would have helped without shortening your runwa
y length enough to bother you.=0A=0AI have landed in winds using these tech
niques where I couldn't taxi without a few unintended 360s.=0A=0ARick Neils
en=0ARedrive VW Powered MKIIIC=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- From: "gra
ntr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>=0ATo: <kolb-list@matronics.com>=0ASent:
Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:44 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Crab vs sideslip
nt_richardson25@yahoo.com>=0A> =0A> I had my 1st big challenge today with w
ind!- The forecast was for 5mph winds however the wind was low but gusty
and turbulent at times and variable in direction. On my final I checked the
AWOS and it had winds at 7knots from 180o and I was landing on 23.=0A> =0A
> The air was a bit rough descending down through 500 to 100 feet and the w
ind was pushing me away from centerline. I had the plane in a- crap- on
most of the approach keeping center. Once I got lower 100 feet I went to t
he slide slip.- It took a boot full or right rudder to get the nose strai
ght with the runway. I think I was close to max deflection. Of course once
the nose is straight ailerons have to be turned into the wind or the dreade
d side drift occurs. Anyway i used power all the way down to flair.=0A> =0A
> I usually approach 65 mph to 70 I used 75 to 80 on this one.- All was l
ooking pretty good until I backed off the power. At this point I am in the
round out stage and as the speed decreases I start drifting again and the n
ose starts trying to go into the wind again.=0A> =0A> After a bit of fighti
ng the wind I touch down ok but the plane bounces back up about 10 to 15 fe
et. I chase it with power touch down again bounce again and finally touch d
own one last time and stay planted!=0A> =0A> Asphalt seem to aggravate cros
s wind landing a good bit over grass.=0A> =0A> What method do you guys use
during cross wind landings crab or sideslip?=0A> =0A> Any suggestions for m
e? i know I need more practice for one since I am=0A> a low time pilot.=0A>
=0A> Grant=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> h
ttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225412#225412=0A> =0A> =0A>
====0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: reincarnation/windshields |
Bob, I see that now you have a center section gap seal. Does it fly differently?
N4201G in California
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
But you also want the plane flying as little as possible once the wheels
are on the ground....
>
> LS
Lucien:
Push the stick forward on touch down when above flying speed. It will pin
it to the ground.
Trying to three point and stall in gusty conditions in a Kolb will usually
result in the Kolb hovering when we want it on the ground, especially with
full flaps.
It can be a challenge landing a Kolb in windy, gusty conditions. Sometimes
I am more passenger than pilot in severe situations of wind and turbulence.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
Grant:
The answer I recommend is go get a little bit of dual instruction in
crosswind techniques...a couple of hours
with a good instructor ought to do it... I believe crosswind techniques,
not just for landings, but takeoffs
as well, fall into that unique category of things that are best learned by
repetetive hands-on instruction with
a teacher showing and demonstrating. Crosswind techniques aren't really
difficult or mysterious, but they
are a little different. I would definitely not include them in the category
of things to read about and then go
out to try by yourself on a windy crosswind day. Once the Kolb light comes
on over your head during the
dual instruction, the techniques will become intuitively simple and you can
then practice solo in gradually
increasing wind situations until you get where you want to be... After you
get good at it, you might even
find yourself looking for crosswind situations just for the fun of executing
the techniques.
I don't believe it is worth risking your neck or your airplane doing the
self-teaching thingy. Those
75 or 80 mph strafing-run approaches ain't the answer...
As usual, worth what ye paid fer it....
beauford, the Aluminum Butcher of Brandon
FF-076
> Any suggestions for me? i know I need more practice for one since I am
> a low time pilot.
>
> Grant
>
>
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Subject: | Dave Bigelow Down |
18jan09,
I just got off the phone with Mrs.Bigelow... Dave and his glider went missing
on the Big Island last Friday. The search teams found wreckage this morning
and are on their way to conferm that it is Dave...
Sorry,
Henry
FireFly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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Subject: | Re: Dave Bigelow Down |
> I just got off the phone with Mrs.Bigelow... Dave and his glider went
missing on the Big Island last Friday.
> Henry
Henry:
That is terrible news. Please keep us informed when you get some news.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: reincarnation/windshields |
That's been on there for a long time. The important thing was
putting on the root fences because
it flew terrible without them.
re: landing in gusty crosswinds.. It helps to have a nice broad
grassy field ahead. My south end has a
narrow gap with trees on both sides. If I have to land through them
in those conditions I carry extra speed
for reasons you can understand.
John H: google earth cut 200' off my presumed 1300' strip. :)
BB
On 18, Jan 2009, at 1:26 PM, <apilot@surewest.net> wrote:
>
> Bob, I see that now you have a center section gap seal. Does it
> fly differently? N4201G in California
>
>
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Gang:
Here is a recent article on Dave:
http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090118_Missing_glider_pilot_often_caught_big_air.html
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Front Nose Skid Tube |
I have noticed that several Kolbs have a front skid tube installed. I think this
is a good idea and am wondering how it is made and how its attached to the
cage. Is it a solid piece of steel rod, tubing or what?
Rick Lewis
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Subject: | Re: Front Nose Skid Tube |
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=174
Here's an address that tells about the one I used....
It attached on tubes that went across the frame....
I only used it til I got the "feel" of how easy or not it
wanted to nose over.... it's off now.
Gotta Fly...
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Subject: | Re: Front Nose Skid Tube |
Thanks for the pics. That's a little more of a bumper than I want. I will probably
come up with one considerably smaller.
Rick Lewis
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Thanks for all the input on this. I believe I will be going with the Matco brakes
with a 6" tire instead of the 5". I will also modify the ratio of the brake
pedal as I saw some time ago that this may be a problem, 1:1 just won't do
it.
Rick Lewis
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Subject: | Re: Front Nose Skid Tube |
The skid on my MK III is bolted to the frame. I think its steel tubing since it
has flanges welded to it to bolt to the cage.
I will keep it on my plane just in case I have to land in a plowed field.
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Subject: | Re: Dave Bigelow Down |
Its been confirmed, my Uncle Dave was killed while attempting the altitude record
on Friday. He was an excellent pilot, and one of the smartest guys you would
ever meet. Had it not been for Daves good advice and cautions about the
dangers associated with ultralight flying, I would have probably never survived
my first solo and ultralight flying back in the early 80's. He will be missed.
Dave did not attempt this record without doing his research and approaching it
slowly and cautiously, he has been up in the lower 30's several times in this
glider with no major problems. I can only guess that there must have been a mechanical
problem with the oxygen system in his sailplane. Its always hard to
see family taken from us early, but he was fortunate to have lived life to the
fullest anyone possibly could have, and to have been able to do what he loved
until the end.
Mike
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have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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Subject: | Re: Dave Bigelow Down |
to all his family and close friends, please accept my mutual feelings
of sorrow for the loss of a
good member of the Kolb family.
BB
On 18, Jan 2009, at 6:47 PM, JetPilot wrote:
>
> Its been confirmed, my Uncle Dave was killed while attempting the
> altitude record on Friday. He was an excellent pilot, and one of
> the smartest guys you would ever meet. Had it not been for Daves
> good advice and cautions about the dangers associated with
> ultralight flying, I would have probably never survived my first
> solo and ultralight flying back in the early 80's. He will be missed.
>
> Dave did not attempt this record without doing his research and
> approaching it slowly and cautiously, he has been up in the lower
> 30's several times in this glider with no major problems. I can
> only guess that there must have been a mechanical problem with the
> oxygen system in his sailplane. Its always hard to see family
> taken from us early, but he was fortunate to have lived life to the
> fullest anyone possibly could have, and to have been able to do
> what he loved until the end.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
> as you could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225550#225550
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Subject: | Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants |
Thanks Larry
I think the pants are pointy enough to part most brush but I'm not sure
about boulders and huge rocks. MT thinks they will defiantly look best
right side up.would love to get up there some day
Uncle craig
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Cottrell
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants
Hi to all from uncle craig and milow tim Looking forward to MV
put in
for vacation yesterday
Uncle Craig
~~--~~-~~~-~---~~~-~--~~~-~--~~~--~~--~~--~~
Hey Craig, why don't you and MT come on up with John H to the
Rock house and we can give those suckers a real world test. :-) If they
were pointer on the front end wouldn't they part the sage brush a bit
better?
Seriously though they look great, just a little too "purty" for
here though.
Larry C, Oregon
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Subject: | Re: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants |
I look forward to seeing you this May! I'm bringing something different this year,
a helicopter. [Rolling Eyes]
Dave Rains
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Subject: | Re: Dave Bigelow down |
- My wife and I would like to extend our most sincere condolences to the
family and friends of Dave.- He will be missed.
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------------------ Bill and Tiny Sulliv
an
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------------------ Windsor Locks, ct.
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Subject: | Re: Dave Bigelow Down |
----- Original Message -----
From: JetPilot
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 4:47 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Dave Bigelow Down
Its been confirmed, my Uncle Dave was killed while attempting the
altitude record on Friday.
Its very sad when we lose one of ours. My condolences to the family
for their loss.
Larry Cottrell, Oregon
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
John Hauck wrote:
>
> Lucien:
>
> Push the stick forward on touch down when above flying speed. It will pin
> it to the ground.
>
> Trying to three point and stall in gusty conditions in a Kolb will usually
> result in the Kolb hovering when we want it on the ground, especially with
> full flaps.
>
> It can be a challenge landing a Kolb in windy, gusty conditions. Sometimes
> I am more passenger than pilot in severe situations of wind and turbulence.
>
> john h
> mkIII
That was what I did virtually all of the time. I read about this technique in the
paperwork that came with the FSII from the original builder actually. When
I first tried it it was a revelation. It worked perfectly and always planted
the plane on the ground.
I only rarely tried to 3-point mine as it was only truly doable in totally calm
conditions. I believe it was either Travis over at Kolb or a friend of mine who
was also a kolb pilot that told me the Kolb is generally meant to be wheel
landed. So most of the time I did wheel landings and always did if it was windy
or shifty.....
LS
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Subject: | Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? |
The person publishing the photos in their Facebook album can choose to make
them public, so that anyone who is interested doesn't have to join to see
them. I do it all the time for my family.
-- Robert
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* icrashrc <icrashrc@aol.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:25 AM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
>
>
> You need to join to see. Bummer...
>
> --------
> Scott
>
> Agreed, it is a pain in the butt, but since I had another friend bugging me
> to do it, I bit the bullet and did so.
>
> Larry C, Oregon
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants |
At 06:57 PM 1/18/2009, you wrote:
>Thanks Larry
>I think the pants are pointy enough to part most brush but I'm not
>sure about boulders and huge rocks.
>
>Uncle craig
These are the ones you want to run over
boulders & huge rocks & pointy things.
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Subject: | Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing |
At 02:21 PM 1/18/2009, you wrote:
>
>But you also want the plane flying as little as possible once the
>wheels are on the ground....
>>
>>LS
>
>
>Lucien:
>
>Push the stick forward on touch down when above flying speed. It
>will pin it to the ground.
>
>Trying to three point and stall in gusty conditions in a Kolb will
>usually result in the Kolb hovering when we want it on the ground,
>especially with full flaps.
>
>It can be a challenge landing a Kolb in windy, gusty conditions
I do exactly the same thing but I also lock my brakes "coming in"
with a tail wind or over stall speed.
You will not nose over with that kind of air speed over you tail,
especially over grass, it will shorten your landing
and will prevent you from bouncing or floating when you don't have
the runway length to spare.
It took me 5 or 6 years to figure this out. We've got a short field,
so it doesn't apply to most of you guys.
Unless ........
I'm landing on this video with a 5 - 10 mph tailwind @35mph air speed -
only one way in and draggin brakes all the way on the grass.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=263159682459782825&hl=en
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