Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 01/19/09


Total Messages Posted: 30



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:17 AM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (pj.ladd)
     2. 02:41 AM - Re: Dave Bigelow (pj.ladd)
     3. 06:21 AM - Re: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants (Nelson, Craig)
     4. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Robert Laird)
     5. 08:11 AM - Military care packages (Luke)
     6. 09:04 AM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (dalewhelan)
     7. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (pj.ladd)
     8. 09:17 AM - Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Thom Riddle)
     9. 09:40 AM - Re: Altimeter setting and private fields, was: Re: HKS flight (pj.ladd)
    10. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Dana Hague)
    11. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Larry Cottrell)
    12. 10:11 AM - Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot (Raymond, Kevin)
    13. 11:06 AM - Re: Dave Bigelow Down (henry.voris)
    14. 11:52 AM - Re: Dave Bigelow down (william sullivan)
    15. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (Robert Laird)
    16. 01:29 PM - Re: Front Nose Skid Tube (Rex Rodebush)
    17. 01:52 PM - Re: Altimeter setting and private fields, was: Re: HKS flight (Dana Hague)
    18. 04:02 PM - No mold free hand lay up (Nelson, Craig)
    19. 04:35 PM - Re: No Mold Free Hand Lay up (william sullivan)
    20. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: C90 Brakes (Brad Stump)
    21. 04:57 PM - Re: C90 Brakes (Rick Lewis)
    22. 05:19 PM - Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot (Larry Cottrell)
    23. 05:56 PM - Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (R. Hankins)
    24. 06:51 PM - Re: C90 Brakes (JetPilot)
    25. 07:05 PM - Re: Re: C90 Brakes (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    26. 07:05 PM - Re: Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot (grantr)
    27. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot (robert bean)
    28. 08:50 PM - Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing (lucien)
    29. 09:06 PM - Song about Air Bus In the River - Really Great! (thewanderingwench@yahoo.com)
    30. 10:56 PM - Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook? (henry.voris)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:17:13 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    The person publishing the photos in their Facebook album can choose to make them public, so that anyone who is interested doesn't have to join to see them. I do it all the time for my family.>> I dont know who posted this but I understand that Facebook is quite `the thing`. Now we have all sat bored stiff while someone projects there holiday pictures at a dinner party so why ,why,why has this now grown to such an extent that any anonymous person with a massive ego thinks that an out of focus picture of Little Johnny falling over in the snow is so fascinating that the whole world wants to see it. It seems to me that it is an extension of the sugary, sick making Christmas Bulletins that some families send out to keep you up to date with the fact that a neice or nephew whom you have never met has got their Phd at the age of ten or their second cousin twice removed has kept twelve people alive on a mountain top when their plane crashed by feeding them a soup made from her own blood. Specialist things for a specialist audience, like our member who gives instruction on improving Kolbs etc or like the stuff from Big Lar with a commentary about things which most of us will never do, accomompanied by first class,professional pictures are a different kettle of fish. Long may they continue. I dont suppose anything I say will make the slightest bit of difference but I just felt like a good rant. I feel better now. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 02:41:56 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Dave Bigelow
    Here is a recent article on Dave>> John, thank you for putting the article about Dave on the list. As the sort of glider pilot who thinks that 10thousand feet is high the thought of flying a glider at 40K is awe inspiring. A great loss. Pat


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    Time: 06:21:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Looking forward to MV /wheel Pants
    From: "Nelson, Craig" <craig.nelson@heraeus.com>
    Possums Best looking wow!!!!!!!!! I can't top that!!!! She's beautiful !!!!!!! ....I mean they work Uncle craig Do not archive These are the ones you want to run over boulders & huge rocks & pointy things. ~~--~~-~~~-~---~~~-~--~~~-~--~~~--~~--~~--~~ This e-mail is intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above and may constitute information that is privileged or confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution, forwarding or copying of this e-mail by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or e-mail and completely delete or destroy any and all electronic or other copies of the original message. *** 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - ONLINE! Please click on over to www.heraeus.com to experience the new websites for yourself! ***


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    Time: 08:10:47 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    Pat -- The main difference is, it's not forced on you. Someone gives you a link, says it's pictures of Little Johnny, and, well, you don't have to go look. But others who like Little Johnny may want to see it. That's why having a place to put an album of photos like Facebook, is a good thing for -everyone-... Or would you rather they embedded the photos of Little Johnny in your email where you have to download them? I think you win the curmudgeon title! :-) -- Robert MkIIIC/912ULS On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:14 AM, pj.ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: > The person publishing the photos in their Facebook album can choose to > make > them public, so that anyone who is interested doesn't have to join to see > them. I do it all the time for my family.>> > > I dont know who posted this but I understand that Facebook is quite `the > thing`. > > Now we have all sat bored stiff while someone projects there holiday > pictures at a dinner party so why ,why,why has this now grown to such an > extent that any anonymous person with a massive ego thinks that an out of > focus picture of Little Johnny falling over in the snow is so fascinating > that the whole world wants to see it. > > It seems to me that it is an extension of the sugary, sick making Christmas > Bulletins that some families send out to keep you up to date with the fact > that a neice or nephew whom you have never met has got their Phd at the age > of ten or their second cousin twice removed has kept twelve people alive on > a mountain top when their plane crashed by feeding them a soup made from her > own blood. > > Specialist things for a specialist audience, like our member who gives > instruction on improving Kolbs etc or like the stuff from Big Lar with a > commentary about things which most of us will never do, accomompanied by > first class,professional pictures are a different kettle of fish. Long may > they continue. > > I dont suppose anything I say will make the slightest bit of difference but > I just felt like a good rant. I feel better now. > > Cheers > > Pat > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 08:11:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Military care packages
    From: "Luke" <aurich85@yahoo.com>
    Hickory Farms is clearing out their holiday overstock with many gift sets 75% off with an additional 15% off with the source code: 849358. In addition to that they offer FREE shipping to military APO addresses. www.hickoryfarms.com My cousin is at a little FOB in the mountains of Afghanistan on a 15 month tour and if some of you would could send some goodies his way, I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated. I was over in Afghanistan for 15 months myself and MRE's and Army food get old mighty quickly. My parents sent me some summer sausage and cheese and it was a delightful luxury. If any of you could spare an extra $5 or $10 it would go a long way in bringing a taste of home to a bunch of soldiers fighting for our freedom and ability to explore and enjoy our wonderful United States of America and the rest of the world. Mathew Meineke Bravo Troop 6-4 CAV Camp Keating APO AE 09354 Thanks! ~ Luke p.s. I understand the rules about off topic posts but in this circumstance I really don't care. When it comes to the individuals who's lives are on the line allowing us the freedom to sit in front of our computer in our home and have the peace of mind that we can travel and live in this country in nearly absolute safety, I think an exception can be made. do not archive -------- &quot;The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name.&quot; Exodus 15:3 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225671#225671


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    Time: 09:04:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing
    From: "dalewhelan" <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>
    I have a Firestar II and am a low time pilot. 70 hours in my plane since I got it six months ago. I was flying into Casa Grande AZ with a Challenger II flown by my instructor. Awos reported winds of 17 with gust to 23. The wind was about 40 degrees off the runway alignment. The Challenger landed first and I could see how much his left wing was low. I came in about 20 over stall speed in a side slip, touched down on the left wheel and started giving more rudder as I slowed, (I was playing with my E6-B one day and saw the crosswind component increase as speed slowed) All was good. The Aeronca that came in a little later had a tough go of it but survived. The key for me seemed to be wheel landings, and just fly it to the ground. If things get worse I have differential braking. I also had a 120 pound passenger in the plane with me. I don't think I was at my limit but the event had my full attention. The first time I landed like this it was bounce along on the right main a few times then start essing all over the runway and barely stay on it. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225688#225688


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    Time: 09:08:47 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    The main difference is, it's not forced on you. Someone gives you a link, says it's pictures of Little Johnny, and, well, you don't have to go look. But others who like Little Johnny may want to see it. >> Hi Robert, I am more interested in the ego which is under the impression that anyone else is the slightest bit interest. As I said it is an extension of the host who is convinced that you are reely, reely dying to see his holiday snaps. If I want to see a picture of little Johnny I will phone his father and ask him to send me one. Personally I hope the little blighter breaks his neck. Cheers Pat (Curmudgeon of the week)


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    Time: 09:17:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Pat, ....or their second cousin twice removed has kept twelve people alive on a mountain top when their plane crashed by feeding them a soup made from her own blood.... That's a good one. Thanks for the imagery. It made my day. do not archive Thom curmudgeon in training -------- Thom Riddle N1208P RANS S6S, Tailwheel, 912UL N197BG FS1/447 -------------------- It is by universal misunderstanding that all agree. For if, by ill luck, people understood each other, they would never agree. - Charles Baudelaire Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225693#225693


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    Time: 09:40:10 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: HKS flight
    the owner who has an airstrip behind his house doesn't want to be bothered with a bunch of people flying in and out. Hi Dana, thats reasonable. there are very few people here with enough land for a strip unless they are farmers. The farming mafia flit happily around and seem to know where all the little strips are tucked away. We have one PPR strip on an island out in the Bristol Channel. They have a very rough strip and when you ring up they go out and move the sheep and open the gate in the wall you have to fly through on the approach. In Australia where they have some BIG spreads some pilots never got a license as they argued that they only flew over their own land. They learned to fly from Pappy about the time they learned to drive a car. The authorities seemed content to let it go as there were not that many but then they found that that they were doing x-countries on the basis that they were always flying over there own land or that of their friends. That stopped it. Probably Cheers Pat


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    Time: 09:43:43 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    At 11:09 AM 1/19/2009, Robert Laird wrote: >The main difference is, it's not forced on you.... having a place to put >an album of photos like Facebook, is a good thing... But Facebook? If you simply want to share photos online, use a simple photo hosting site like Photobucket, without all the overhead and teenyboppers on Facebook... and nobody has to join just to see the pictures. -Dana -- +REAL+ programmers use EDLIN to create Windows apps


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    Time: 10:01:06 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    , I am more interested in the ego which is under the impression that anyone else is the slightest bit interest. As I said it is an extension of the host who is convinced that you are reely, reely dying to see his holiday snaps. If I want to see a picture of little Johnny I will phone his father and ask him to send me one. Personally I hope the little blighter breaks his neck. Cheers Pat (Curmudgeon of the week) I believe this thread started with Roger making his flying pictures available to others on this list without overloading their limited ability to view them. I assure you that it is very unlikely that you will ever see the areas or scenery that he made available for you to view, assuming that you wanted to view them of course. You need to get a sun lamp, the English weather has apparently soured your oatmeal, or what ever British curmudgeons eat. Larry C, Oregon - a bit cranky myself! :-)


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    Time: 10:11:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot
    From: "Raymond, Kevin" <Kevin.Raymond@qg.com>
    My first flight with my Kolb Slingshot is coming this summer. I have an HKS700E engine (4 stroke, 60 hp). I would like to make sure my CQ is safe for the first flight. I know what my plans say is the acceptable range (20 - 37% mean aerodynamic chord), and I also just attended the EAA's workshop for safely testing flying your project, and I know what they define as an acceptable range (18 - 34% Mean aerodynamic chord). I would like to get actual data points of where people safely fly their Kolb aircraft. In particular I would like to get Kolb aircraft type, your actual flying CG location in inches from the leading edge of the wing, and the distance from your wing leading edge to the trailing edge of your ailerons in inches. From these numbers I will be able to get a really good idea of where the CQ is in terms of % of Mean Aerodynamic chord, and this will make the data from the other Kolb types meaningful. Also, if you did a careful flight test program in your Kolb with different CQ's, I would like to hear what you thought the acceptable range was for your Kolb, and which location you liked best. My aircraft is currently set up to be near the back end of the EAA general aircraft range, and I have heard a CQ that is pretty aft in the range is fairly typical for Kolb's. I am well aware the aft limit is death if you exceed it, and this is why I want to know the aft limit you thought was safe. Thanks so much for your input. > Kevin Raymond > kevin.raymond@qg.com A KOLB fan.


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    Time: 11:06:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dave Bigelow Down
    From: "henry.voris" <henry_voris@yahoo.com>
    19jan09 Kolbers, Yesterday a rescue team recovered Dave's remains from the 9,800 ft. level of Mauna Loa. Below is a URL of the latest news report... http://www.hawaii247.org/2009/01/18/searchers-find-crashed-glider-on-mauna-loa/ Aloha, Henry -------- Henry Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225712#225712


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    Time: 11:52:39 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Bigelow down
    - Thank you, Henry.- Please keep us posted.- Again, our condolences. - ------------------------- -------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ---------------------Windsor Lock s, Ct. do not archive


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    Time: 12:28:42 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    Granted. However, if you're already on Facebook, and your friends are on Facebook, then it's not a -terrible- place to put them, and you can make the photos public, too. Differ'nt' strokes for differ'n't folks. MySpace is primarily teenyboppers, but Facebook has an amazing following of adults as well as college kids. I got on it initially to keep track of my college kids. I'm glad I did, because, without it, I'd rarely hear from them... with Facebook, I can see what they are up to, without being intrusive and bugging them all the time. Plus, they can see when I'm flying via the status...! (See, I got a Kolb-related element in there!) :-) -- Robert On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote: > > At 11:09 AM 1/19/2009, Robert Laird wrote: > >> The main difference is, it's not forced on you.... having a place to put >> an album of photos like Facebook, is a good thing... >> > > But Facebook? If you simply want to share photos online, use a simple > photo hosting site like Photobucket, without all the overhead and > teenyboppers on Facebook... and nobody has to join just to see the pictures. > > -Dana > > -- > +REAL+ programmers use EDLIN to create Windows apps > >


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    Time: 01:29:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Front Nose Skid Tube
    From: "Rex Rodebush" <rrodebush@tema.net>
    I posted some pictures of my front nose skid / tie down / pull handle in March of 07. Check on the BSS Forum under "nose bracket". Rex Rodebush Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225725#225725


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    Time: 01:52:09 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: HKS
    flight At 12:39 PM 1/19/2009, pj.ladd wrote: > >In Australia where they have some BIG spreads some pilots never got a >license as they argued that they only flew over their own land. They >learned to fly from Pappy about the time they learned to drive a car. The >authorities seemed content to let it go as there were not that many but >then they found that that they were doing x-countries on the basis that >they were always flying over there own land or that of their friends. That >stopped it. Probably Sounds like Alaska, where I'm told the FAA has a goal of 2010 to get 40% of all pilots licensed. -Dana -- If vegetarians eat vegetables,..beware of humanitarians!


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    Time: 04:02:32 PM PST US
    Subject: No mold free hand lay up
    From: "Nelson, Craig" <craig.nelson@heraeus.com>
    <<DSC_1407.JPG>> <<DSC_1413.JPG>> <<DSC_1414.JPG>> <<DSC_1429.JPG>> <<DSC_1432.JPG>> You can see the jogle I made on the back sidde of the pant with epoxy filler and used seperator. Layed it all up, then cut the pannel around the leg and removed the parts and finished them. Never tried this but it worked quite well Uncle craig ~~--~~-~~~-~---~~~-~--~~~-~--~~~--~~--~~--~~ This e-mail is intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above and may constitute information that is privileged or confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. Dissemination, distribution, forwarding or copying of this e-mail by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or e-mail and completely delete or destroy any and all electronic or other copies of the original message. *** 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - ONLINE! Please click on over to www.heraeus.com to experience the new websites for yourself! ***


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    Time: 04:35:43 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: No Mold Free Hand Lay up
    - Craig-- What kind of resin are you using- polyester or epoxy?- I am using polyester, and it resembles maple syrup- not clear like your photos. - ------------------------- ------------ Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------ Windsor Locks, Ct.


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    Time: 04:43:05 PM PST US
    From: Brad Stump <sky-king@inbox.com>
    Subject: Re: C90 Brakes
    How do you change the ratio of the brake pedal?I think it would help me and maybe someone else > -----Original Message----- > From: cktman@hughes.net > Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:32:05 -0800 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: C90 Brakes > > > Thanks for all the input on this. I believe I will be going with the > Matco brakes with a 6" tire instead of the 5". I will also modify the > ratio of the brake pedal as I saw some time ago that this may be a > problem, 1:1 just won't do it. > > Rick Lewis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225544#225544 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:57:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: C90 Brakes
    From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman@hughes.net>
    sky-king: I have some idea's on how to change the ratio on the brake cylinders and when done I will post, with pictures. I don't really think it will be to hard, since I had to do this on another aircraft I buildt back in 1993. I'm going to try and make it so others will be able to adapt easily. Rick Lewis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225765#225765


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    Time: 05:19:43 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot
    Hi, You apparently aren't getting too many responses to your question. I imagine that can be attributed to caution rather than non interest. I knew that Jerry had put a HKS on a Slingshot, but I never knew whose it was. I am surprised that you haven't flown it yet. I would like to get a bit more background on the installation and the plane. Have you flown the airplane with any other engine on the plane? I have a Firestar II that has had a 447- a 503 and now a HKS. Quite frankly I can find no real down side to the engine as far as the flying goes. Other than I am having a bit more CHT than I am currently comfortable with. I have a very (at least to my mind) heavy Firestar. I am not real sure if my figures are correct on the weight, but the W&B has actually moved forward with the addition of the HKS. With the 503 on it the W&B was pretty far to the rear. As it sits now I am showing the most forward CG would be 22 percent or 14.14 inches and the most aft 23.6 percent or 15.1 inches of wing chord. I have flown mine, and there is no change in the handling of the plane from then to now. I spoke to a friend of mine about the difference in W&B with the two engines, and he mentions that the HKS even though it weighs about 30 lbs more that a 503, the weight is more towards the CG than it is with the 503. For instance the oil tank is just behind the rear seat, both pistons are side by side and also a bit more forward than on a 503 the muffler is ahead of the CG as well as the oil cooler. So keeping that in mind, even though you are adding more weight, it is not necessarily aft of the CG, so you may well be a lot more forward than you would think. Larry C, Oregon


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    Time: 05:56:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
    Let me try this again. I'm still learning this facebook thing. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid 03527&l=edb22&id=1174278290 Sorry the first one didn't allow non Facebook types to see them. I have removed all annoying pictures of little Johnny. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225781#225781


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    Time: 06:51:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: C90 Brakes
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    I'm glad you are going to come up with a solution for the Matco Master cylinders also, even though the Obrien brakes are to small for the MK III Xtra, it would be nice if I did not have to press the pedals so hard to get normal braking. It is very easy for me to get the Obrien brakes on my Kolb so hot that they fade at the end of a long taxi on pavement, leaving me almost no braking at all. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225797#225797


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    Time: 07:05:27 PM PST US
    From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: C90 Brakes
    Why reinvent the brake peddles. Paul Petty had a set that has more ratio in his Kolbra. He posted photos that are likely in the archives. Seems like there was even a video. If I remember correctly Mark German develop the brake peddles and may have made a copy for Paul. The guys that now own one of their planes are on the list. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman@hughes.net> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: C90 Brakes > > sky-king: > > I have some idea's on how to change the ratio on the brake cylinders > and when done I will post, with pictures. I don't really think it will be > to hard, since I had to do this on another aircraft I buildt back in 1993. > I'm going to try and make it so others will be able to adapt easily. > > Rick Lewis > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225765#225765 > > >


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    Time: 07:05:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot
    From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
    What is CQ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225800#225800


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    Time: 08:42:45 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Acceptable CQ range for a Slingshot
    In Charge of Quarters (sorry, I couldn't resist) BB On 19, Jan 2009, at 10:05 PM, grantr wrote: > <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com> > > What is CQ? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225800#225800 > >


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    Time: 08:50:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Crab vs sideslip crosswing landing
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    dalewhelan wrote: > The first time I landed like this it was bounce along on the right main a few times then start essing all over the runway and barely stay on it. Don't know what you're complaining about, all my landings are like that..... ;) LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225816#225816


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    Time: 09:06:50 PM PST US
    From: thewanderingwench@yahoo.com
    Subject: Song about Air Bus In the River - Really Great!
    This was on the Challenger list.It's great - really worth listening to! http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2009/01/17/scripts/pilot.shtml Arty www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing." Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 10:56:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Any Kolbers on Facebook?
    From: "henry.voris" <henry_voris@yahoo.com>
    19jan09 Thanks Roger... I hate feeling pressured to join a site. Great Kolb photos... Henry -------- Henry Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225824#225824




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