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1. 04:08 AM - Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts (icrashrc)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts (John Hauck)
3. 09:00 AM - Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts ( question for John H.) (Lanny Fetterman)
4. 09:52 AM - Re: HKS readings for the day (zeprep251@aol.com)
5. 11:28 AM - Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts ( question for John H.) (John Hauck)
6. 12:33 PM - Re: HKS readings for the day (Jack B. Hart)
7. 01:36 PM - Re: HKS readings for the day (Larry Cottrell)
8. 02:16 PM - HKS fuel system (Richard Girard)
9. 02:16 PM - Re: New Engine at Sebring (JetPilot)
10. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: New Engine at Sebring (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
11. 03:59 PM - Re: Re: New Engine at Sebring (Richard Girard)
12. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: New Engine at Sebring (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
13. 06:38 PM - Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts (Rick Lewis)
14. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts (John Hauck)
15. 08:16 PM - Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts (lucien)
16. 08:43 PM - Re: HKS readings for the day (robcannon)
17. 09:42 PM - Re: Re: HKS readings for the day (Larry Cottrell)
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts |
John,
Saved ya the trouble of taking pics.
:-)
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts |
> Saved ya the trouble of taking pics.
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> :-)
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Morning Scott:
Great!!! Thanks, buddy.
john h
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| Subject: | Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts ( question for John H.) |
John , I don`t mean to nit pick. However, I was always taught to insert
bolts from top to bottom, not bottom to top. Is there a reason you
installed the bolts the way you did? Perhaps it is just easier to check
them when preflighting. Lanny FSII
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| Subject: | Re: HKS readings for the day |
At full throttle on a 4stroke including the HKS, you have very little pulse
in the intake.You should use an electric pump any time you go to full throt
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- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=C2- auxilery-----Original Message-----From
: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>To: kolb-list@matronics.comSent: Tue,
27 Jan 2009 1:27 pmSubject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS readings for the day
If you suspect the CHT senders are the cause of incorrect readings, take the
m out of the heads and stick the tip in a pan of boiling water. If the EIS d
oesn't read 212 (or 100 if your EIS is set for metric reading) you've at lea
st isolated the problem to the sensing system.
Have you checked the jet needle position. Mine came with the clip set on the
second groove from the top, I raised the needles by moving the clip to the
3rd position and the heads cooled right down.
Do you use the stock vacuum pulse driven fuel pump? If so, how is your fuel
pump connected? Did you
(or your supplier) tee the balance line between the intake manifolds for th
e pulse line to the fuel pump. Check for vacuum leaks there, check the pump
diaphragm for leaks, too.
Have you mechanically and pneumatically synched your carbs? That can cause C
HT problems as the two cylinders fight each other. The Rotax owners site has
a great e-learning module that explains the process and why it is important
. The method in the HKS manual has not been updated to reflect the addition
of a balance tube between the intake manifolds. Contact Dana at Hpower LTD.
They have a service bulletin on this. Frankly, the Rotax method works better
and you can download the 912 Line Maintenance manual. The method is describ
ed in Section 12-00-00 pages 21 through 25.
Have you checked the carb boots? If they have a crack in a carb boot, the mi
xture will go lean and the CHT's go up. Mine were rotted out after just 50 h
ours. HKS has a service bulletin about this, too, although the problem with
the supplier is supposed to have been fixed some time ago.
Rick
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On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM, boyd <by0ung@brigham.net> wrote:
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Yes, it reads both and shows the highest reading. They are
the sensors supplied by EIS for their unit, and are brand new. I find it ver
y
puzzling as well.
Larry C,
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You say the cht temps are
high,,,,,=C2-=C2- and the oil is low.=C2-=C2-=C2- How hig
h are
the cht?
I am with john=C2-=C2- the
returning oil from the heads should cool the heads and raise the oil temp.
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Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts ( question for John H.) |
> John , I don`t mean to nit pick. However, I was always taught to insert
> bolts from top to bottom, not bottom to top. Is there a reason you
> installed the bolts the way you did? Perhaps it is just easier to check
> them when preflighting. Lanny FSII
Lanny:
Looked better/more normal that way. Heads on the outside, tails on the
inside.
You don't think they will fall out do you??? :-)
If you look my plane over you will find other places where bolt are inserted
from bottom to top, like at the upper end of the lift strut.
Remember, when I am flying upside down, there are more bolts inserted from
bottom to top than there are from top to bottom.
Seriously, I try to keep thing uniform. Looks better and is a lot easier to
check.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: HKS readings for the day |
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
>
>Hi,
>
>Boyd,The last time I flew I was doing 5750 rpm's oil temps were 157 and CHT
>was 329 degrees.
>
Larry,
Are you monitoring EGTs?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: HKS readings for the day |
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack B. Hart
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HKS readings for the day
Larry,
Are you monitoring EGTs?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Of course, on the occasion that I was replying to it was as shown.
Larry
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>From the HKS installation manual section 6
WARNING!
If the tank is lower than the engine, an electric fuel pump must be used
with the pneumatic pump
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine at Sebring |
I have read about that engine, it seems way over complicated :( That crazy setup
is based on a German design around WWII, if it were a good design, I think
someone somewhere would have used it in the last 50 years....
And like I am going to pay 20 grand for a 2 stroke engine [Laughing] this will
probably just be another one of these development engines that quickly fades
into non-production.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine at Sebring |
Mike
You could be right about not being produced but?
As for this being a 2 stroke. It is a long way from what you are thinking
about. Like Detroit Diesel's engine it is a 2 stroke but has a oil system
like the 4 strokes. You don't mix oil with the fuel.
Yes I'm hoping Rotax will have some competition.
Rick Neilsen
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From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Engine at Sebring
>
> I have read about that engine, it seems way over complicated :( That
> crazy setup is based on a German design around WWII, if it were a good
> design, I think someone somewhere would have used it in the last 50
> years....
>
> And like I am going to pay 20 grand for a 2 stroke engine [Laughing] this
> will probably just be another one of these development engines that
> quickly fades into non-production.
>
> Mike
>
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> could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine at Sebring |
Richard, Remember the Zoche, the Delta Hawk............From the specs you
posted this thing is going to be a fuel hog, too. A BSFC of .40 at 75% power
if awfully high for a diesel, it ought to be down around of .27 to .3.
especially since the fuel cost is going to be at least 25% higher.
Rick
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Richard & Martha Neilsen <
NeilsenRM@comcast.net> wrote:
> NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
> Mike
>
> You could be right about not being produced but?
>
> As for this being a 2 stroke. It is a long way from what you are thinking
> about. Like Detroit Diesel's engine it is a 2 stroke but has a oil system
> like the 4 strokes. You don't mix oil with the fuel.
>
> Yes I'm hoping Rotax will have some competition.
>
> Rick Neilsen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:08 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Engine at Sebring
>
>
>>
>> I have read about that engine, it seems way over complicated :( That
>> crazy setup is based on a German design around WWII, if it were a good
>> design, I think someone somewhere would have used it in the last 50
>> years....
>>
>> And like I am going to pay 20 grand for a 2 stroke engine [Laughing] this
>> will probably just be another one of these development engines that quickly
>> fades into non-production.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> --------
>> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
>> could have !!!
>>
>> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227401#227401
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| Subject: | Re: New Engine at Sebring |
I am with you on this Rick Rotax needs some serious competition I don't
care where it comes from but anything to get there prices down to what they are
really worth.
Ellery
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In a message dated 1/28/2009 6:17:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
NeilsenRM@comcast.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
<NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Mike
You could be right about not being produced but?
As for this being a 2 stroke. It is a long way from what you are thinking
about. Like Detroit Diesel's engine it is a 2 stroke but has a oil system
like the 4 strokes. You don't mix oil with the fuel.
Yes I'm hoping Rotax will have some competition.
Rick Neilsen
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Engine at Sebring
>
> I have read about that engine, it seems way over complicated :( That
> crazy setup is based on a German design around WWII, if it were a good
> design, I think someone somewhere would have used it in the last 50
> years....
>
> And like I am going to pay 20 grand for a 2 stroke engine [Laughing] this
> will probably just be another one of these development engines that
> quickly fades into non-production.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
> could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227401#227401
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts |
Jimmy
I think I know the area your talking about. I saw this could be a problem
down the road with wear on the two attach bolts at the boom tube. I have attached
pictures showing how I'm avoiding this problem. Your really lucky you caught
this before things turned loose in flight. The bushings you see in the pictures
came from Wicks, part# SF812-4 and cost less than a dollar each. Two
nut plates, four rivets, two bushing and a little work is all it takes to fix
it right.
Rick Lewis
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts |
> I think I know the area your talking about.
>
> Rick Lewis
Rick L:
I haven't experienced a problem with the elevator control mechanism.
I think the problem was up at the forward attach points.
I fixed mine with a 4130 bushing I made from a piece of 1/4" tubing with a
3/16" ID. Works good.
Again, I don't think I have photos of the installation.
Let us know how your modification works out after you get some time on them.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Horiz. Stblzr bolts |
FWIW, the forward attach bolts for the elevator halves had the same wear on my
FSII. It had about 450 hours on it when I bought it, during a routine check of
the stabilizer halves I found the bolts badly grooved. In fact it was bad enough
that I grounded the plane until the replacement bolts came in.
The wires were probably too loose, having read John's description. Mine didn't
"guitar string" when plucked (they had the stock nicos looped through the tangs
construction which was probably how they had loosened over time).... I did snug
the nylocs on the new bolts up against the two ears of the brackets so the
bolts couldn't rotate without a fair bit of force (but not enough to distort
the ears).
I don't recall any problem with the elevator mechanism. There was a slight amount
of play in one elevator half where the bolt was a little loose inside the little
sleeve thingy but that was about it.
The original owner used to fold/unfold the plane a lot so that might have contributed
to the extra wear on those points......
LS
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| Subject: | Re: HKS readings for the day |
Larry - 1180 EGT and 330- CHT.
- you could take a little pitch out and get your egt up a bit and cht
down abit. I'd guess you could get to 1280 and 300. ( a bit better ?)
cheers, Rob
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| Subject: | Re: HKS readings for the day |
I had the prop relaxed enough that I would go over the 6200 on take off,
and noticed no improvement. I since added one degree of pitch to the
blades, I may relax it about a half degree, but I really don't expect it
to help. I intend to check the clips and see if a bit more fuel will
help the problem. I do not currently have a problem since the OAT is
colder than a well diggers butt, however the temps will not stay that
way. Its going to get hot sometime.
Larry C
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To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HKS readings for the day
Larry - 1180 EGT and 330- CHT.
- you could take a little pitch out and get your egt up a
bit and cht down abit. I'd guess you could get to 1280 and 300. ( a bit
better ?)
cheers, Rob
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