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     1. 05:47 AM - Re: Unbelievable Military Photos (Jack B. Hart)
     2. 09:02 AM - Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military photos  (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
     3. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military photos  (John Hauck)
     4. 08:09 PM - gel battery (cristalclear13)
     5. 08:32 PM - Re: gel battery (Robert Laird)
     6. 08:45 PM - Re: gel battery (John Hauck)
     7. 09:28 PM - Re: gel battery (cristalclear13)
     8. 09:55 PM - Re: Re: gel battery (Carlos)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Unbelievable Military Photos | 
      
      
      From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
      
      >Kolb list,
      >
      >  I generally try NOT to post non-Kolb items on this list.  Although I have 
      >received a few off-list requests to see these military photos, I decided to 
      >share them with everyone.
      >
      
      Mike,
      
      "do not archive" prevents slugging the list with non Kolb things and also 
      reduces the guilt.  I enjoyed the photos.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military photos | 
      
      
      
      << I have a question regarding the pop rivets on the fabric on the
      wings...
      
        Anybody?  Anybody? Thanks, Mike Welch >>
      
      
      Mike -
      
      
      At the recommendation of a few fellow Kolbers, I rib stitched my wing
      fabric, and am very pleased with the outcome.  The bump from a stitch of
      twine is much smaller beneath the finishing tape than the bump from a
      rivet.  Plus, I like to think replacing the fabric will be easier, if I
      ever have to do it.
      
      
      Have you considered rib stitching?
      
      
      Dennis Kirby
      
      Mark-3, 912ul, "Magic Bike"
      
      Cedar Crest, NM
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military | 
      photos 
      
      If it was me, I'd go with the Polyfiber Installation Manual for covering, a
      ttachment, and finishing.
      
      I believe rib stitching was  to be used with wooden ribs with flat rib caps
      , not round aluminum tubing.
      
      I have seen several Kolbs that were rib stitched that did have stitching br
      eak or pull loose on top, rear, inboard section of wings.  When this happen
      s, fabric ballons up creating some serious vibration problems.
      
      Unfortunately, I have had to recover several of my wings, and helped remove
       fabric from other Kolb wings.  Removing the soft aluminum fabric rivets wa
      s not a problem.
      
      john h
      mkIII
      
      
         
         
      
        At the recommendation of a few fellow Kolbers, I rib stitched my wing fab
      ric, and am very pleased with the outcome.  The bump from a stitch of twine
       is much smaller beneath the finishing tape than the bump from a rivet.  Pl
      us, I like to think replacing the fabric will be easier, if I ever have to 
      do it.
      
         
      
        Have you considered rib stitching?
      
         
      
        Dennis Kirby
      
         
      
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      I am thinking about a new battery.  The one that came with the plane when I bought
      it has a (overflow?) drain on the side of it and has made a mess.  I suppose
      I could try to catch what comes out but I don't know what with or how secure
      I could make it.  
      
      Saw this battery on aircraft spruce, but it's a little pricey isn't it?
      http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/gellcellbatt.php
      
      A fellow airport bum who is rebuilding a wrecked Titan bought a 12 volt 26 amp
      sealed acid battery from Interstate Batteries store.  
      Could I go with that or should I spend the extra for the gell cell?  Or perhaps
      I could keep using the one I have... just keep it from making a mess somehow?
      
      --------
      Cristal Waters
      Kolb Mark II Twinstar
      Rotax 503 DCSI
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230051#230051
      
      
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      Cristal --
      
      I recently got a new Odyssey PC680 Battery for my MkIII from Quality
      Power for about $120... it's got more than twice the cranking amps as
      the Centennial, and is smaller.
      
      But regardless of which you buy, definitely dump the old, spillable
      battery and get a gel cell battery!!!  And, yes, they are more
      expensive than sealed lead-acid, but you get what you pay for.
      
        -- Robert
      
      
      On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:09 PM, cristalclear13
      <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      > I am thinking about a new battery.  The one that came with the plane when I bought
      it has a (overflow?) drain on the side of it and has made a mess.  I suppose
      I could try to catch what comes out but I don't know what with or how secure
      I could make it.
      >
      > Saw this battery on aircraft spruce, but it's a little pricey isn't it?
      > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/gellcellbatt.php
      >
      > A fellow airport bum who is rebuilding a wrecked Titan bought a 12 volt 26 amp
      sealed acid battery from Interstate Batteries store.
      > Could I go with that or should I spend the extra for the gell cell?  Or perhaps
      I could keep using the one I have... just keep it from making a mess somehow?
      >
      > --------
      > Cristal Waters
      > Kolb Mark II Twinstar
      > Rotax 503 DCSI
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230051#230051
      >
      >
      
      
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       > Saw this battery on aircraft spruce, but it's a little pricey isn't it?
      > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/gellcellbatt.php
       > --------
      > Cristal Waters
      
      
      This one from Aircraft Spruce will get the job done.
      
            BATTERY 18 AMP SEALED BT021 $56.25
      
      
      http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/powersonic.php
      
      
      I use a 545 Odyessey 15 Amp with the 912uls.  Shouldn't have any problem 
      turning the 503 with 18 amp.
      
      john h
      mkIII 
      
      
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      Thanks for the advice Robert and John.  I appreciate it.  :)
      
      --------
      Cristal Waters
      Kolb Mark II Twinstar
      Rotax 503 DCSI
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230063#230063
      
      
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      Hi Cristalclear,
      
      What did you do to resolve your fabric/tube problem? Did you repair it or 
      did you do a complete recover?
      
      Just curious...
      
      Carlos G.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
      Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:27 PM
      Subject: Kolb-List: Re: gel battery
      
      
      > <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
      >
      > Thanks for the advice Robert and John.  I appreciate it.  :)
      >
      > --------
      > Cristal Waters
      > Kolb Mark II Twinstar
      > Rotax 503 DCSI
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230063#230063
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
 
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