---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/12/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:47 AM - Re: Unbelievable Military Photos (Jack B. Hart) 2. 09:02 AM - Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military photos (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL) 3. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military photos (John Hauck) 4. 08:09 PM - gel battery (cristalclear13) 5. 08:32 PM - Re: gel battery (Robert Laird) 6. 08:45 PM - Re: gel battery (John Hauck) 7. 09:28 PM - Re: gel battery (cristalclear13) 8. 09:55 PM - Re: Re: gel battery (Carlos) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:11 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Unbelievable Military Photos From: Mike Welch >Kolb list, > > I generally try NOT to post non-Kolb items on this list. Although I have >received a few off-list requests to see these military photos, I decided to >share them with everyone. > Mike, "do not archive" prevents slugging the list with non Kolb things and also reduces the guilt. I enjoyed the photos. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military photos From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" << I have a question regarding the pop rivets on the fabric on the wings... Anybody? Anybody? Thanks, Mike Welch >> Mike - At the recommendation of a few fellow Kolbers, I rib stitched my wing fabric, and am very pleased with the outcome. The bump from a stitch of twine is much smaller beneath the finishing tape than the bump from a rivet. Plus, I like to think replacing the fabric will be easier, if I ever have to do it. Have you considered rib stitching? Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul, "Magic Bike" Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:06 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Poly Fiber & pop rivet holes, plus some US Military photos If it was me, I'd go with the Polyfiber Installation Manual for covering, a ttachment, and finishing. I believe rib stitching was to be used with wooden ribs with flat rib caps , not round aluminum tubing. I have seen several Kolbs that were rib stitched that did have stitching br eak or pull loose on top, rear, inboard section of wings. When this happen s, fabric ballons up creating some serious vibration problems. Unfortunately, I have had to recover several of my wings, and helped remove fabric from other Kolb wings. Removing the soft aluminum fabric rivets wa s not a problem. john h mkIII At the recommendation of a few fellow Kolbers, I rib stitched my wing fab ric, and am very pleased with the outcome. The bump from a stitch of twine is much smaller beneath the finishing tape than the bump from a rivet. Pl us, I like to think replacing the fabric will be easier, if I ever have to do it. Have you considered rib stitching? Dennis Kirby ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: gel battery From: "cristalclear13" I am thinking about a new battery. The one that came with the plane when I bought it has a (overflow?) drain on the side of it and has made a mess. I suppose I could try to catch what comes out but I don't know what with or how secure I could make it. Saw this battery on aircraft spruce, but it's a little pricey isn't it? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/gellcellbatt.php A fellow airport bum who is rebuilding a wrecked Titan bought a 12 volt 26 amp sealed acid battery from Interstate Batteries store. Could I go with that or should I spend the extra for the gell cell? Or perhaps I could keep using the one I have... just keep it from making a mess somehow? -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230051#230051 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: gel battery From: Robert Laird Cristal -- I recently got a new Odyssey PC680 Battery for my MkIII from Quality Power for about $120... it's got more than twice the cranking amps as the Centennial, and is smaller. But regardless of which you buy, definitely dump the old, spillable battery and get a gel cell battery!!! And, yes, they are more expensive than sealed lead-acid, but you get what you pay for. -- Robert On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:09 PM, cristalclear13 wrote: > > I am thinking about a new battery. The one that came with the plane when I bought it has a (overflow?) drain on the side of it and has made a mess. I suppose I could try to catch what comes out but I don't know what with or how secure I could make it. > > Saw this battery on aircraft spruce, but it's a little pricey isn't it? > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/gellcellbatt.php > > A fellow airport bum who is rebuilding a wrecked Titan bought a 12 volt 26 amp sealed acid battery from Interstate Batteries store. > Could I go with that or should I spend the extra for the gell cell? Or perhaps I could keep using the one I have... just keep it from making a mess somehow? > > -------- > Cristal Waters > Kolb Mark II Twinstar > Rotax 503 DCSI > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230051#230051 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:59 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: gel battery > Saw this battery on aircraft spruce, but it's a little pricey isn't it? > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/gellcellbatt.php > -------- > Cristal Waters This one from Aircraft Spruce will get the job done. BATTERY 18 AMP SEALED BT021 $56.25 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/powersonic.php I use a 545 Odyessey 15 Amp with the 912uls. Shouldn't have any problem turning the 503 with 18 amp. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:02 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: gel battery From: "cristalclear13" Thanks for the advice Robert and John. I appreciate it. :) -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230063#230063 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:14 PM PST US From: "Carlos" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: gel battery Hi Cristalclear, What did you do to resolve your fabric/tube problem? Did you repair it or did you do a complete recover? Just curious... Carlos G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristalclear13" Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: gel battery > > > Thanks for the advice Robert and John. I appreciate it. :) > > -------- > Cristal Waters > Kolb Mark II Twinstar > Rotax 503 DCSI > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230063#230063 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.