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1. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: AGM Battery & charger info (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
2. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: Kolb history (zeprep251@aol.com)
3. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: Kolb history (robert bean)
4. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: Kolb history (John Hauck)
5. 11:15 AM - Valentines Day Flight (Ralph B)
6. 11:36 AM - Re: Valentines Day Flight (John Hauck)
7. 02:32 PM - Re: Valentines Day Flight (Ralph B)
8. 05:08 PM - Re: Kolb history (N111KX (Kip))
9. 05:55 PM - Re: Valentines Day Flight (N111KX (Kip))
10. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: Valentines Day Flight (boyd)
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| Subject: | Re: AGM Battery & charger info |
Charlie
Great information.
The battery maintainer I have on my airplane is the unit you mentioned.
http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Battery_Chargers/Schumacher_Chargers/1562.jpg
It has a adapter that I attach permanently to my battery with a keyed plug
that allows quick easy attachment without having to worry that it is
connected backwards. I notice when I attach the charger to the plane it will
go into charging mode even after a long flight. When I taxi back to my
hanger the planes charging system goes into discharge due to low RPMs. I
think I can detect a slightly increased power level after being hooked to
the battery maintainer than without. Any way after multiple batteries with
and without the battery maintainer the batteries last longer when kept on
the maintainer. The biggest longevity improvement is likely from attaching
the battery through the 3-4 months in the winter when the plane doesn't fly.
For the rest of my vehicles (cars, boat and tractor) that are left in
storage for some times 9 months at a time I have had very good luck
attaching a float charger. I used to disconnect the batteries but now I just
connect the float charger. Yes I fog the engines and change the oil. The
float chargers I use are:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42292
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: AGM Battery & charger info
>
> battery & charger info:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is a special charger needed for AGM batteries such as the Odyssey? At
>>> www.odyessy.com <http://www.odyessy.com/> they recommend two types, but
>>> I?m wondering why something like a Schumacher
>>> http://store.schumachermart.com/se-1010-2.html won?t work just as well.
>>
>> ALL battery technologies benefit from the use of
>> "smart" battery chargers that offer charge, top-off
>> and maintenance cycles. The charger you cited
>> doesn't cite this feature.
>>
>> A really nice, low cost Schumacher product sold
>> at Wallmart is the 1562 series critters cited in
>>
>> http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Batteries/Multiple_Battery_Myths_A.pdf
>>
>> and illustrated here:
>>
>> http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Battery_Chargers/Schumacher_Chargers/1562.jpg
>>
>> Schumacher makes a range of smart chargers identifiable
>> by the word "maintainer" in their descriptions. These
>> include the SC600, SC1000, SC1200, etc.
>>
>> The idea that one should finely tune a plug-in-the-wall
>> battery charger to the brand/technology of the battery
>> is not supported by the way we charge batteries in our
>> vehicles and expect years of service life.
>>
>> Consider also a variety of small battery charger/maintainers
>> like:
>>
>> http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Battery_Chargers/Battery_Minder/
>>
>> http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Battery_Chargers/Battery_Tender_Jr/Battery_Tender-Junior.jpeg
>>
>> Bob . . .
>>
>> ----------------------------------------)
>> ( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
>> ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
>> ( appearance of being right . . . )
>> ( )
>> ( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb history |
Kip,
? I really missed it this time.I recorded the F1274 as the serial no.on all the
paperwork for the registration process.Does Kolb include a serial no. on any
of the paperwork I received with the kit?
????????? Thanks G. Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: N111KX (Kip) <n111kx@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:58 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb history
G.Aman, I was thinking of the aircraft serial number which was FS-705. The
stamped cage number is 12XX as I recall. I'll have to note it next time I am at
the airport...
Kip
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Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb history |
Serial numbers for experimental aircraft are arbitrary. You can use
anything you want but
it would be best to check FAA records to see if you are using a
duplicate.
My MkIII is M1060 which was created from an unused gap in a common
sequence of pre-existing numbers.
The only place you will find it on the plane is the dataplate.
BB
On 15, Feb 2009, at 11:58 AM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote:
> Kip,
> I really missed it this time.I recorded the F1274 as the serial
> no.on all the paperwork for the registration process.Does Kolb
> include a serial no. on any of the paperwork I received with the kit?
> Thanks G. Aman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: N111KX (Kip) <n111kx@mindspring.com>
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:58 pm
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb history
>
> <n111kx@mindspring.com>
>
>
> G.Aman, I was thinking of the aircraft serial number which was
> FS-705. The
>
> stamped cage number is 12XX as I recall. I'll have to note it next
> time I am at
>
> the airport...
>
> Kip
>
>
> --------
>
> Kip
>
> Firestar II, N111KX
>
> Waiex, N111YX
>
> Quickie 1, N111QX
>
> Atlanta
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230257#230257
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb history |
Bob:
Mine is M3-011, number 11 off the line.
And you are correct. There is no other serial number on my airframe except
what I engraved on the data plate.
john h
mkIII
My MkIII is M1060 which was created from an unused gap in a common seque
nce of pre-existing numbers.
The only place you will find it on the plane is the dataplate.
BB
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| Subject: | Valentines Day Flight |
Guys and ladies, here are a few pics taking my Valentine for a flight.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
22 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
almost 1 year flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Valentines Day Flight |
> Guys and ladies, here are a few pics taking my Valentine for a flight.
>
> Ralph
Ralph:
Looks good to me!
How are you keeping the 80 horse temps up in the icy part of the country?
john h]
mkIII - T-Shirt weather at hauck's holler.
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| Subject: | Re: Valentines Day Flight |
John Hauck
> Ralph:
>
> Looks good to me!
>
> How are you keeping the 80 horse temps up in the icy part of the country?
>
> john h]
> mkIII - T-Shirt weather at hauck's holler.
John and others,
I taped off the front of the radiator and half of the oil cooler with 3M non-residue
duct tape. It was 9F at 2000' and the oil temp was too low at 157F. Last
weekend I flew around the cities and it was 185F when it was 30F OAT.
There is also something else I noticed: Before flying (cold engine), I turned the
prop and I noticed a few drops of coolant dripping out the bottom of the engine.
Once the 912 warms up, it goes away. There is another 912 owner that notices
the same thing. This only happens on cold winter days. Does anyone know if
this is problem with the water pump? The engine only has a little over 300 hours
on it, but it's an early 912.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
22 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
almost 1 year flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb history |
On my bill of sale, and confirmed by the nice lady on the phone at Kolb aircraft
(Mrs. Kolb?) in 1998 the serial # is FS-705 with the cage number being different...
Kip
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Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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| Subject: | Re: Valentines Day Flight |
A real trooper of a lady there... :)
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Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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| Subject: | Re: Valentines Day Flight |
I taped off the front of the radiator and half of the oil cooler with 3M
non-residue duct tape. It was 9F at 2000' and the oil temp was too low at
157F. Last weekend I flew around the cities and it was 185F when it was 30F
OAT.
There is also something else I noticed: Before flying (cold engine), I
turned the prop and I noticed a few drops of coolant dripping out the bottom
of the engine.
Ralph B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ralph
In the past I have noticed antifreeze leaking out of 2 areas of the 912,,
1: was from the Ells where the coolant lines attached at the bottom of the
heads. Two of them came out by hand cold,,, I was told by the mechanic at
LEAF that they had never seen that problem. I bought the correct lock tite
and re installed the ells with no additional problems.
2: there is a small weep hole on the bottom of the engine under the water
pump, and if that is where you are seeing the leak, I have noticed the
same situation, and when I asked at LEAF I was told that if the overflow
bottle did not go down too rapidly, and the level in the engine stayed up,,,
to just keep an eye on it.. if you start loosing a large amount of
antifreeze, then you may need a new water pump, or other repairs.
Boyd Young
Kolb MKIIIC
Utah
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