---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/23/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:24 AM - Re: Re: weight question (pj.ladd) 2. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: weight question (John Hauck) 3. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: weight question (robert bean) 4. 07:17 PM - firestar first flight (John Sieberts) 5. 07:32 PM - Re: firestar first flight (John Hauck) 6. 09:44 PM - Re: xtra wingtip mods (icrashrc) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:33 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: weight question we can go up to 1320 lbs before we lose our sport pilot privilege.>> Hi Robert, presumably you are talking MAUW there. Our weight limit is also MAUW but there is a standard allowance for 2 crew and full fuel and as the posts were talking about empty weight I did also. Our other limits are wing loading and stall speed. On our measuring basis with the Jabi fitted we only got the stalling speed down to our limits by fitting VG`s. With the 582 they are not needed, although some pilots fit them just to get that extra bit of control at low speed and that drop in stalling speed. You can see that although I have no doubt that the Kolb will fly at a higher weight it will of course put the stalling speed up and that will be outside our parameters. I have a 2 blade wooden prop fitted 157cms/98cms Figures from my last Annual check. Climb 55mph at 2800 revs. 80 secs from 1000ft to 2000ft Stall speed. Power off, flaps up 35mph Natural buffet speed. 38mph IAS Dived at one third throttle at 95 mph Max RPM in dive 2700 Get the snow cleared and get flying. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:43 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: weight question Patrick: How do you determine "natural buffet speed? john h mkIII Natural buffet speed. 38mph IAS Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:29 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: weight question That's how fast you can make it to the "all you can eat buffet" har BB On 23, Feb 2009, at 9:25 AM, John Hauck wrote: > Patrick: > > How do you determine "natural buffet speed? > > john h > mkIII > > > Natural buffet speed. 38mph IAS > > Pat > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:02 PM PST US From: "John Sieberts" Subject: Kolb-List: firestar first flight Kolbers- Have been lurking for the last 10 months after purchasing a firestarII kit from Kolb. Made my first flight last weekend. Needs a little rigging, I installed an HKS from Jerry Olenik @ Green Sky Adventures. Can't say enough about Jerry's help as well as everyone @ Kolb & Brian Milburne (sp?) with changes etc. (the plans haven't been updated since 1996) Thanks also to all the other Kolb builders that gave helpful construction tips, you know who you are. :) Looking forward to getting back to the basics of fun flying, most of my flying career was in production GA aircraft, the rest in high performance kit planes. Its already way to fun.... Thanks everyone who help make this happen. John Sieberts ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:43 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: firestar first flight Congratulations, John S. Always great to hear another new Kolb is in the air. john h mkIII Made my first flight last weekend. John Sieberts ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:36 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: xtra wingtip mods From: "icrashrc" Aileron mass balances are tested and built. http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/AileronMassBalance.htm I also started the page on the wing center section(gap fill). http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/WingCenterSection.htm As always, comments and questions are welcome. -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231755#231755 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.