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1. 03:47 AM - sky car (pj.ladd)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: sky car (Thomas R. Riddle)
3. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: xtra wingtip mods (robert bean)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: xtra wingtip mods (Richard Girard)
5. 09:10 AM - Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) (John Bickham)
6. 09:28 AM - Another *$#(% prop strike! (John Bickham)
7. 09:39 AM - Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) (John Hauck)
8. 09:51 AM - Re: Another *$#(% prop strike! (John Hauck)
9. 11:57 AM - Re: Another *$#(% prop strike! (Robert Laird)
10. 12:15 PM - Re: Another *$#(% prop strike! (JetPilot)
11. 12:43 PM - Re: Re: xtra wingtip mods (pj.ladd)
12. 02:26 PM - Re: Another *$#(% prop strike! (George Myers)
13. 02:51 PM - Re: Re: xtra wingtip mods (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
14. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: xtra wingtip mods (robert bean)
15. 06:07 PM - Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) (jerb)
16. 06:16 PM - Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) (John Hauck)
17. 07:17 PM - Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) (jerb)
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News report today.
A small engineering works in a little village about 20 miles from my
home has built a `sky car`.
It is basically a road legal dune buggy with a large parafoil fitted. I
believe that the engine drives the wheels on the ground and a prop while
in the air.
The team have just returned home from a real `sky drive` adventure. They
started from London with a big press covered event a short while ago and
and drove and flew for 4000 miles to Timbuctoo. They came home
yesterday.
No doubt there will be further details later on.
Pat
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Pat,
That is in interesting vehicle for sure and has been in the aviation news
for awhile. I knew they had begun the journey but I didn't know they had
completed it.
Thom in Buffalo
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:46 AM, pj.ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
> News report today.
>
> A small engineering works in a little village about 20 miles from my home
> has built a `sky car`.
> It is basically a road legal dune buggy with a large parafoil fitted. I
> believe that the engine drives the wheels on the ground and a prop while in
> the air.
>
> The team have just returned home from a real `sky drive` adventure. They
> started from London with a big press covered event a short while ago and and
> drove and flew for 4000 miles to Timbuctoo. They came home yesterday.
>
> No doubt there will be further details later on.
>
> Pat
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: xtra wingtip mods |
I also have contemplated a fix for the angle behind the door on a
MkIII. The idea of a little air-turning gizmo sticking out
could work but seems unappealing. The easy one would be a slab of
foam board attached to the fabric and carved to
provide a better turn. A little goop and surface tape around the
edges would do the job. Laminate the outer surface
with some fine cloth and epoxy and then paint to match. Weight would
be small, more than made up for by efficiency.
BB
On 24, Feb 2009, at 10:32 PM, icrashrc wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the words of wisdom. Sometimes we forget how much of a
> test pilot the was required as the earlier designs evolved.
>
> I'm sure you now know the reason your first mass balances were
> ineffective was because of the inboard mounting position. That
> allowed the LE tube to act as a spring and could have well made the
> problem worse instead of better.
>
> We used your current mass balances for a start on weight needed. I
> calculated the weight of yours, added a fudge factor, and sized
> ours to be a little heavier. I'll be able to drill out some of the
> lead if i need to after the ailerons are covered and painted.
>
> I'll add more info on the center section in the next day or two. I
> have Paul writing that up for me. It's been a pain in the rear but
> we both think it will work out well.
>
> You're right about the area behind the doors. Getting the air to
> turn there would, if nothing else, help feed air to the bottom half
> of the prop. Clean air to the prop it always good! We may look at
> trying something it that area ourselves but not until after the
> plane is finished and flying.
>
> 5mph from just the tail-wheel is a lot!
>
> --------
> Scott
>
> www.ill-EagleAviation.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231955#231955
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: xtra wingtip mods |
Bob, Take a look at what the BD-4 guys do at the windshield posts. Kind of
like a venetian blind slat.
Rick
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:21 AM, robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
> I also have contemplated a fix for the angle behind the door on a MkIII.
> The idea of a little air-turning gizmo sticking out
> could work but seems unappealing. The easy one would be a slab of foam
> board attached to the fabric and carved to
> provide a better turn. A little goop and surface tape around the edges
> would do the job. Laminate the outer surface
> with some fine cloth and epoxy and then paint to match. Weight would be
> small, more than made up for by efficiency.
> BB
>
> On 24, Feb 2009, at 10:32 PM, icrashrc wrote:
>
>>
>> John,
>>
>> Thanks for the words of wisdom. Sometimes we forget how much of a test
>> pilot the was required as the earlier designs evolved.
>>
>> I'm sure you now know the reason your first mass balances were ineffective
>> was because of the inboard mounting position. That allowed the LE tube to
>> act as a spring and could have well made the problem worse instead of
>> better.
>>
>> We used your current mass balances for a start on weight needed. I
>> calculated the weight of yours, added a fudge factor, and sized ours to be a
>> little heavier. I'll be able to drill out some of the lead if i need to
>> after the ailerons are covered and painted.
>>
>> I'll add more info on the center section in the next day or two. I have
>> Paul writing that up for me. It's been a pain in the rear but we both think
>> it will work out well.
>>
>> You're right about the area behind the doors. Getting the air to turn
>> there would, if nothing else, help feed air to the bottom half of the prop.
>> Clean air to the prop it always good! We may look at trying something it
>> that area ourselves but not until after the plane is finished and flying.
>>
>> 5mph from just the tail-wheel is a lot!
>>
>> --------
>> Scott
>>
>> www.ill-EagleAviation.com
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231955#231955
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) |
For any that may visit, a little heads up.
There have been some changes around Nauga Field.
1) Ronnie has run a new H2O line. The camp is now on parish (county) water.
No more high mineral well H2O. There is a little bit of settling still going
on which is creating a nose over hazard as you turn off the runway to parking.
I'm filling it as it settles.
2) Also been doing some logging. This has left the powerline on the SE end seriously
exposed and a hazard to those that are unaware. I'm working on getting
some markers for the powerlines. May be a little while to get them up. See
picture.
3) Armadillo has had his way with the runway and left a bunch of divots. He has
been dealt with. See picture.
4) This winter beavers built a dam which has slowed the already poor drainage.
Field is soft. One beaver now a pelt and dam is currently burning.
Call if you plan on visiting for updated information.
Do not archive.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough
ones.
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| Subject: | Another *$#(% prop strike! |
I've done it again! Something went through the prop. I haven't figured what it
was yet. This happened after a carb sync was completed. I was fiddling with
some stuff and may have left something loose up there.
Now I have ding in my warp and a hole in the top of my right flap to patch.
As far as the Warp, I'm not sure how to proceed. I think I can just press the
bulge back to shape under the tape and be OK. Any experience or suggestions appreciated.
Working on patch on Aerothane. Just trying to getting "patches" ready for MV.
Need to get some extended butt time. Hopefully that will be the only weak link.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough
ones.
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| Subject: | Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) |
> 2) Also been doing some logging. This has left the powerline on the SE
end seriously exposed and a hazard to those that are unaware. I'm working
on getting some markers for the powerlines. May be a little while to get
them up. See picture.
>
> John Bickham
Sounds great.
I know you wish that damn power line was out of there. Looks high enough to
land under it now that those tall trees are gone. Really opened up that
area.
Water sounds good. Can we take a shower at the cabin now instead of the
fire house?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Another *$#(% prop strike! |
> As far as the Warp, I'm not sure how to proceed. I think I can just press
> the bulge back to shape under the tape and be OK. Any experience or
> suggestions appreciated.
>
> Working on patch on Aerothane. Just trying to getting "patches" ready for
> MV. Need to get some extended butt time. Hopefully that will be the only
> weak link.
>
> John Bickham
How large, or how small, is the hole in the flap?
If you have a nice vinyl decal/sticker, you can stick that over the hole and
save yourself a lot of time and effort.
If not, patch it like you would polytone. Polytak will stick to the
aerothane without a lot of prep. About all I do is clean it good with
Polyfiber Paint Cleaning Solvent. I usually use round patches cut with
pinking shears. Doping and finish paint, I mask off square. If you don't
point out the boo boo, no one will ever know the difference.
I've still got urethane tape on all three blades of my Warp covering dings.
John W was kind enough to bring the tape with him to MV, then attached the
tape for me. It is still on there, although it needs to be removed and the
blades repaired and repainted. I have repaired blades, per Warp Drive
instructions, in Arlington, WA, while on a long 1994 flight. Used 100LL to
clean up the dings, then mixed up some JB Weld with a plastic picnic knife
and filled the dings. Next morning took some fine wet dry paper and
contoured and finish sanded the repairs. Worked like a champ.
I got work to do to to get ready for MV and beyond. Kinda waiting on some
decent weather so work under my shade tree.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Another *$#(% prop strike! |
Go to this URL:
http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html
then, under the "General" tab, scroll down to find Composite Propeller Repair.
-- Robert
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, John Bickham <gearbender@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> I've done it again! Something went through the prop. I haven't figured what it
was yet. This happened after a carb sync was completed. I was fiddling with
some stuff and may have left something loose up there.
>
> Now I have ding in my warp and a hole in the top of my right flap to patch.
>
> As far as the Warp, I'm not sure how to proceed. I think I can just press the
bulge back to shape under the tape and be OK. Any experience or suggestions appreciated.
>
> Working on patch on Aerothane. Just trying to getting "patches" ready for MV.
Need to get some extended butt time. Hopefully that will be the only weak link.
>
> --------
> Thanks too much,
>
> John Bickham
> Mark III-C w/ 912UL
> St. Francisville, LA
>
> Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of
rough ones.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232048#232048
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1628_199.jpg
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1625_110.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another *$#(% prop strike! |
John Bickham wrote:
>
>
> I've done it again! Something went through the prop. I haven't figured what
it was yet. This happened after a carb sync was completed. I was fiddling with
some stuff and may have left something loose up there.
>
>
The carb sync is proving to be hazardous to props [Evil or Very Mad] That makes
3 of us now victims of this, You, John H, and Myself. If you call Daryl
at Warp Drive, he is the expert and will tell you the best way to repair that
prop.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: xtra wingtip mods |
The idea of a little air-turning gizmo sticking out could work>>
What about fitting a few VG`s?.
Pat
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| Subject: | Another *$#(% prop strike! |
Follow this link
http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html
scroll down to Composite Propeller Repair
watch video
Enjoy
George
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Bickham
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Another *$#(% prop strike!
I've done it again! Something went through the prop. I haven't figured
what it was yet. This happened after a carb sync was completed. I was
fiddling with some stuff and may have left something loose up there.
Now I have ding in my warp and a hole in the top of my right flap to patch.
As far as the Warp, I'm not sure how to proceed. I think I can just press
the bulge back to shape under the tape and be OK. Any experience or
suggestions appreciated.
Working on patch on Aerothane. Just trying to getting "patches" ready for
MV. Need to get some extended butt time. Hopefully that will be the only
weak link.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of
rough ones.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232048#232048
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| Subject: | Re: xtra wingtip mods |
I put a few VGs on the side (rear edge of the doors) of my MKIIIC a few
years ago. I didn't effect the speed but it did reduce the noise from
turbulent air hitting the side of the rear cage. My cage is fully enclosed
like John H's plane.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: xtra wingtip mods
>
> The idea of a little air-turning gizmo sticking out could work>>
>
> What about fitting a few VG`s?.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: xtra wingtip mods |
my kolb is ugly enough now. That would elevate it to creepy.
BB
On 25, Feb 2009, at 3:42 PM, pj.ladd wrote:
>
> The idea of a little air-turning gizmo sticking out could work>>
>
> What about fitting a few VG`s?.
>
> Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) |
Boy these guys are getting soft. Next they will want "hot" water for
their shower, then bunks in a building, followed by mattresses,
coffee each morning, and finally a little golf cart to haul them out
to their little airplanes.
jerb
At 11:38 AM 2/25/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>Sounds great.
>
>I know you wish that damn power line was out of there. Looks high
>enough to land under it now that those tall trees are gone. Really
>opened up that area.
>
>Water sounds good. Can we take a shower at the cabin now instead of
>the fire house?
>
>john h
>mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) |
> Boy these guys are getting soft. Next they will want "hot" water for
> their shower, then bunks in a building, followed by mattresses, coffee
> each morning, and finally a little golf cart to haul them out to their
> little airplanes.
> jerb
We have all the rest of that stuff already. Actually, the ATV ride to the
fire house was the only inconvenience we had to endure during the last two
Nauga Flyins.
We'll be living high on the hog this year.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Nauga Field NOTAMs (LS35) |
Y'all enjoy your trip and please be careful.
jerb
At 08:14 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote:
>
>
> > Boy these guys are getting soft. Next they will want "hot" water for
>>their shower, then bunks in a building, followed by mattresses,
>>coffee each morning, and finally a little golf cart to haul them
>>out to their little airplanes.
>>jerb
>
>
>We have all the rest of that stuff already. Actually, the ATV ride
>to the fire house was the only inconvenience we had to endure during
>the last two Nauga Flyins.
>
>We'll be living high on the hog this year.
>
>john h
>mkIII
>
>
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