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1. 03:29 PM - wrinkled Poly Fiber (Mike Welch)
2. 03:48 PM - Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber (Jack B. Hart)
3. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber (Mike Welch)
4. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber (John Hauck)
5. 04:32 PM - Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber (John Hauck)
6. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber (Mike Welch)
7. 06:41 PM - Re: Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber (Jack B. Hart)
8. 06:56 PM - Re: Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | wrinkled Poly Fiber |
Kolb people=2C
I purchased my Kolb MkIII just over 10 years ago. Around the time I purc
hased the plane from the old Kolb Co.=2C I purchased the complete Poly Fibe
r covering kit=2C including most of the Poly Tone paint=2C from Jim and Don
di.
One of the problems with not building your plane in a timely manner is th
at some things "go bad". Examples of this are Poly Tak that turns brownish
=2C rendering it useless. All the solids in the Poly Spray and Poly Tone s
ettle on the bottom of the can=2C making a very solid mud. Lots of work to
get them remixed.
My Poly Fiber fabric=2C which may or may not have been on a 5 foot tube r
oll=2C has been folded=2C and taken on wrinkles that are virtually impossib
le to get out. When I try to glue these wrinkles down with (new) Poly Tak
=2C it still won't hold them down. What a pain!
I figured out a way to fix the wrinkles. I made a big ironing board on a
blanket over a sheet of plywood. I got my iron out=2C and ironed and iron
ed=2C till those lines were gone. I found it took a fairly high setting=2C
but eventually all those suckers were gone.
Mike Welch
MkIII
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| Subject: | Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber |
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
>
...............
I figured out a way to fix the wrinkles. I made a big ironing board on a
blanket over a sheet of plywood. I got my iron out, and ironed and ironed,
till those lines were gone. I found it took a fairly high setting, but
eventually all those suckers were gone.
>
Mike,
No way to say it but this was not a good solution. You have just pre shrunk
all of your cloth. Do not use it.
Jack B.
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| Subject: | Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber |
Hi Jack=2C
Didn't I once say you had a sense of humor??
So do I!! I was just pulling one of those "Leroy says to ......"=2C from
the Poly Fiber manual.
Sorry for yanking your chain=2C but the wrinkles are a pain in the keeste
r. Yeah=2C I know better
than to pre-iron the stuff.
I have only one wing left to finish. Absolutely ALL other Poly Fiber sur
faces (flaps=2C ailerons=2C tail feathers=2C fuselage=2C other wing) are ei
ther painted=2C or at least Poly Sprayed.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber |
> No way to say it but this was not a good solution. You have just pre
> shrunk
> all of your cloth. Do not use it.
>
> Jack B.
Jack/Mike W/Gang:
That was my first thought, but before I sh-t canned the "FABRIC" (airplanes
don't use cloth for covering), I'd ascertain how hot the iron was when I was
busy ironing out the wrinkles. If it was no more than 250F or so, I would
feel comfortable using it.
This would have been a good time for Mike to call Jim Miller, before he took
the iron to his fabric.
Most of the fabric I see on our Kolb airplanes are not shrunk tight enough,
primarily for fear of bending something. All my stuff is bent, but the
fabric is tight as a drum. Maybe that is why it flies faster than most of
its contemporaries???
When I am shrinking fabric, my fabric is smoking. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber |
Mike:
Take your dope and paint to wal-mart or lowe's. Those folks in the paint d
epartment will be more than happy to shake your cans. ;-) That is what I
do with paint that has been hibernating for years.
john h
mkIII
One of the problems with not building your plane in a timely manner is
that some things "go bad". Examples of this are Poly Tak that turns brown
ish, rendering it useless. All the solids in the Poly Spray and Poly Tone
settle on the bottom of the can, making a very solid mud. Lots of work to
get them remixed.
Mike Welch
MkIII
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| Subject: | Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber |
Jack=2C and John=2C et al
I was just funnin' you guys 'bout preshrinking the stuff. Even though my
fabric does have some annoying wrinkles=2C no way would I try to iron it f
lat before I glued it in place.
When I go to heat-shrink that stuff=2C I want it to shrink like a snare d
rum skin. I found if you iron the wrinkles on the metal surfaces=2C they u
sually disappear.....actually=2C they ALWAYS disappear.
For the first time in 10 years=2C I am "almost" finished with all my Poly
Fiber....and yes=2C it is "tight as a drum"!
Regarding the settled solids=2C I was going to take the cans to Home Depo
t. I know the folks there on a first name basis....I really do! But=2C I
made a little mixing paddle=2C and got the stuff back to new.
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber |
At 06:27 PM 2/27/09 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>Most of the fabric I see on our Kolb airplanes are not shrunk tight enough,
>primarily for fear of bending something. All my stuff is bent, but the
>fabric is tight as a drum. Maybe that is why it flies faster than most of
>its contemporaries???
>
>When I am shrinking fabric, my fabric is smoking. ;-)
>
John,
Now we know why you had to beef up your wings and add power to get it into
the air.
Just fun'in
Cloth is a noun - a fabric formed by weaving, felting etc., from wool, hair,
silk, flax, cotton, or other fiber, used for garments, upholstery, and many
other items. - dictionary.reference.com
Fabric is a noun - a cloth, made by weaving, knitting, or felting fibers. -
dictionary.reference.com
Mike, you got me good.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: wrinkled Poly Fiber |
> Fabric is a noun - a cloth, made by weaving, knitting, or felting
> fibers. -
> dictionary.reference.com
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
Jack:
Forget the dictionary.
Calling aircraft covering cloth is like calling the instrument panel the
dash board. ;-)
Or.........calling aircraft tubing pipe.
john h
mkIII
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