---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/02/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:48 AM - Re: more pictures (N111KX (Kip)) 2. 07:47 AM - Trailering a Kolb (George Alexander) 3. 08:17 AM - Re: more pictures (JetPilot) 4. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: more pictures (John Hauck) 5. 09:09 AM - Re: Re: more pictures (Larry Cottrell) 6. 09:42 AM - Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) 7. 12:36 PM - Re: Alaska 2009 (robcannon) 8. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) 9. 02:27 PM - Re: Alaska 2009 (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 10. 04:34 PM - Re: Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) 11. 07:50 PM - warp drive extension again - bolts this time (lucien) 12. 08:38 PM - Re: Alaska 2009 (JetPilot) 13. 08:39 PM - Re: warp drive extension again - bolts this time (Larry Cottrell) 14. 08:43 PM - Re: warp drive extension again - bolts this time (JetPilot) 15. 09:43 PM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:41 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: more pictures From: "N111KX (Kip)" Wow :) Wish that I could fly over terrain like that for a day or two... -------- Kip Firestar II, N111KX Waiex, N111YX Quickie 1, N111QX Atlanta Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232725#232725 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:41 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Trailering a Kolb From: "George Alexander" Added material on Gary Aman's trailer for his MK IIIC to the others on the web site. Click on http://gtalexander.home.att.net and then click on "Trailering a Kolb" Fun, Safe Flying. DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232743#232743 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:46 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: more pictures From: "JetPilot" Beautiful pictures Larry, what a great place to go flying and exploring. I especially liked the canyon and the horses. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232746#232746 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:42 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: more pictures > Beautiful pictures Larry, what a great place to go flying and exploring. I especially liked the canyon and the horses. > > Mike Mike B/Gang: The photos do not do the area justice. That part of our country, SE Oregon, is much bigger and and sparsely populated than appears in the photos. A flight up or down the Owyhee River Canyon is guaranteed to charge your battery. Be back out there in a couple months. john h mkIII - waiting to get some warmer weather to go flying. 27F at hauck's holler this morning. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:49 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: more pictures ----- Original Message ----- From: N111KX (Kip) To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:48 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: more pictures Wow :) Wish that I could fly over terrain like that for a day or two... -------- Kip No problem- 42 40 419N - 117 51 198W will get you here at the house and I will go with you. Larry C,Oregon ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:56 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Alaska 2009 Morning Gang: For many years I have planned to make a flight to Alaska to celebrate my 70th year. This summer is that time. I plan to depart hauck's holler, alabama, the last week of June 2009. This will be a fun, enjoyable, hopefully relaxed flight to celebrate the fourth flight of Miss P'fer, my Kolb MKIII, to Alaska, and hopefully making 70 years for me here on Mother Earth. None of us has a guarantee. I plan to visit old friends I have made on that flight since the first one 15 years ago in 1994. I do not plan to push the envelope as I have done on the past three flights to Alaska. I do plan to return to Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay on the North Slope and the Arctic Ocean. Also a visit to the Helmericks, 40 miles NW of Deadhorse. If I can make coordination with my Eskimo friend Robert Thompson, and weather permitting, I'll probably fly over to Kaktovik (Barter Island), 125 sm east of Deadhorse. Usually, I fly up through Bettles, Anaktuvuk Pass, to the North Slope, then back down the Pipeline Haul Road (Dalton Highway) through Atigun Pass to Wiseman, AK, to visit Jack Reakoff, a trapper I met there in 1994. I don't plan on making the agressive flights I made in 2004, however, some of that may change once I get back to Alaska. I met some local Athabascans in Bettles on the way north to Deadhorse in 2004. There were about 15 or 20 of them from the village of Ruby. They were young men, late teens, early twenties, waiting on an aircraft to fly them back to their village of Ruby. They had been on the fire line for 30 days fighting forrest fires that raged during my flight that year. They invited me to come visit. I promised them I would, but ran out of time, money, and courage, on my last flight up north. A flight to Ruby from North Pole would be agressive and expensive. 100LL is 8.29 a gal at Galena, 45 miles west of Ruby, the nearest fuel to get me back to North Pole. That makes it 300 sm one way, with no interim fuel stops available. Probably pass this one up too. ;-) 100LL at Bettles - 8.10 Deadhorse - 5.87 Barrow - 6.55 Fairbanks - 3.83 (this is good!!!) Northway (port of embarkation) 7.60 (this is a total rip off because Northway is right off the Alaska Hwy near the Canadian Border) When it comes to fuel though, there is no choice except to top off the fuel tank every chance you get. Northern Canada and Alaska, for that matter many places in CONUS, are not places you want to depart with less than full tanks. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:46 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 From: "robcannon" John - would you be coming through British Columbia ? I live on Saltspring Island which lies between Vancouver and Victoria in the Gulf Islands. I live on a 1400 ft. grass strip, and you would be more than welcome to have a pit stop/rest here. Rob Cannon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232800#232800 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:49 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 > John - would you be coming through British Columbia ? I live on > Saltspring Island which lies between Vancouver and Victoria in the Gulf > Islands. I live on a 1400 ft. grass strip, and you would be more than > welcome to have a pit stop/rest here. > Rob Cannon Rob: No hard flight plan yet. Would be a nice route up through your area, Fraiser River Canyon, Stewart-Cassiar Hwy to Watson Lake, then up the Alaska Hwy to Fairbanks. Apppreciate the invite. I'll stick your email in my Alaska 2009 file. Thanks, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:24 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Alaska 2009 John Sounds like another wonderful trip. This trip would make a spectacular article. Sure would be great if you would put some words with some of your photos. It would be super public relations for LSA and Kolb. I would bet Mary Jones would make it worth your time for a EAA article. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Alaska 2009 > > Morning Gang: > > For many years I have planned to make a flight to Alaska to celebrate my > 70th year. This summer is that time. > > I plan to depart hauck's holler, alabama, the last week of June 2009. > > This will be a fun, enjoyable, hopefully relaxed flight to celebrate the > fourth flight of Miss P'fer, my Kolb MKIII, to Alaska, and hopefully > making 70 years for me here on Mother Earth. None of us has a guarantee. > > I plan to visit old friends I have made on that flight since the first one > 15 years ago in 1994. I do not plan to push the envelope as I have done > on the past three flights to Alaska. I do plan to return to > Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay on the North Slope and the Arctic Ocean. Also a > visit to the Helmericks, 40 miles NW of Deadhorse. If I can make > coordination with my Eskimo friend Robert Thompson, and weather > permitting, I'll probably fly over to Kaktovik (Barter Island), 125 sm > east of Deadhorse. Usually, I fly up through Bettles, Anaktuvuk Pass, to > the North Slope, then back down the Pipeline Haul Road (Dalton Highway) > through Atigun Pass to Wiseman, AK, to visit Jack Reakoff, a trapper I met > there in 1994. > > I don't plan on making the agressive flights I made in 2004, however, some > of that may change once I get back to Alaska. I met some local > Athabascans in Bettles on the way north to Deadhorse in 2004. There were > about 15 or 20 of them from the village of Ruby. They were young men, > late teens, early twenties, waiting on an aircraft to fly them back to > their village of Ruby. They had been on the fire line for 30 days fighting > forrest fires that raged during my flight that year. They invited me to > come visit. I promised them I would, but ran out of time, money, and > courage, on my last flight up north. > > A flight to Ruby from North Pole would be agressive and expensive. 100LL > is 8.29 a gal at Galena, 45 miles west of Ruby, the nearest fuel to get me > back to North Pole. That makes it 300 sm one way, with no interim fuel > stops available. Probably pass this one up too. ;-) > > 100LL at Bettles - 8.10 > > Deadhorse - 5.87 > > Barrow - 6.55 > > Fairbanks - 3.83 (this is good!!!) > > Northway (port of embarkation) 7.60 (this is a total rip off because > Northway is right off the Alaska Hwy near the Canadian Border) > > When it comes to fuel though, there is no choice except to top off the > fuel tank every chance you get. Northern Canada and Alaska, for that > matter many places in CONUS, are not places you want to depart with less > than full tanks. > > Take care, > > john h > mkIII > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:34:14 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Alaska 2009 > This trip would make a spectacular article. Sure would be great if you would > put some words with some of your photos. It would be super public > relations for LSA and Kolb. I would bet Mary Jones would make it worth > your time for a EAA article. > > Rick Neilsen Rick N: That would be nice to get some compensation for writing an article and photos. Most of the publishers want your article and your photos. When you mention money, they choke. Tell me it is for the good of the sport. ;-) This may turn out not to be a solo flight as was the case of the first three and a half flights to Alaska. I'm working on some company on this one. Maybe one or two other Kolbs, or another Kolb and a Cub. Still in the thinking stages. I'll take a lot of photos and notes. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:11 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: warp drive extension again - bolts this time From: "lucien" Hi all, I posted this over on the titan list, but I know some of you guys run the warp drive prop with Warp's 3" extension, so Im cuttin-and-pastin my query here as well. I've bitten the bullet and am replacing my IVO with a warp drive and 3" extension. My 912's prop flange has the lugs pressed into the holes in the outermost ring. These holes are threaded with 8mm x 1.25 pitch threads. My question to ya'll is, what size and grade of bolts do you use to attach the extension to the flange? i.e. length below the head, length of shank, length of threaded portion? As for grade, I think the main options for metric are 8.8, 10.9 and 12.9 (and stainless steel). I talked to Daryl today about this on the phone, he told me they needed to be about 1 1/2" long and grade 8. The grading system is different for 8mm bolts tho. It looks like M8 x 40 bolts fit what Daryl was describing. He said he didn't have any, so I'm trying scare up a set of correct bolts when the prop comes in next week. I have found socket-head bolts that seem to be exactly right according to his description, but I'm not sure of the grade I should get. I might call him again tomorrow to ask if what I have will work, but don't want to pester him unecessarily if I don't have to ;). Thanks, LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232877#232877 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:00 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 From: "JetPilot" It will be great to see you doing another Alaska trip in your Kolb... Doing flights like this at 70 is pretty amazing, I hope I am so lucky when I get there ! Its good to hear you will be taking it easy, keeping it fun is what this is all sport is about and also makes the trip more enjoyable. We have lost to many people to accidents recently :( Your flights inspire a lot of people, and I am sure you have been the reason for quite a number of people deciding to buy and build a Kolb over other designs. Take lots of pictures and videos, have you considered taking a HD video camera with you ? The new Sony XR520V will record many many hours of video on its hard drive in full HD, and the price is not to expensive... I would think the National Geographic or discovery channel like may take an interest in your trip if you have good quality video and pictures, it would make a really awesome and inspiring television program ! Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232883#232883 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:30 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: warp drive extension again - bolts this time ----- Original Message ----- From: lucien To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Kolb-List: warp drive extension again - bolts this time Hi all, I posted this over on the titan list, but I know some of you guys run the warp drive prop with Warp's 3" extension, so Im cuttin-and-pastin my query here as well. I've bitten the bullet and am replacing my IVO with a warp drive and 3" extension. My 912's prop flange has the lugs pressed into the holes in the outermost ring. These holes are threaded with 8mm x 1.25 pitch threads. My question to ya'll is, what size and grade of bolts do you use to attach the extension to the flange? i.e. length below the head, length of shank, length of threaded portion? As for grade, I think the main options for metric are 8.8, 10.9 and 12.9 (and stainless steel). Lucien, I have a Warp with an extension that I have used on a 503 and now the HKS. I used 8.8 bolts that I found at a John Deere tractor store of all places. It was the only place other than order them off the internet. I am sure that that is what Daryl recommended. Use your own judgment, Larry C ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:02 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: warp drive extension again - bolts this time From: "JetPilot" Kolb might have some of those on hand, I would call Travis and ask him. If he does not have stuff like this in stock, he usually knows exactly where to find it :) Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232887#232887 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:44 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 I would think the National Geographic or discovery channel like may take an interest in your trip if you have good quality video and pictures, it would make a really awesome and inspiring television program ! > > Mike Mike: That would be more like work than play. I'll take photos, hopefully more of friends than forest. I think I have taken most of the scenery type photos on the previous 3.5 flights. I was 65 my last flight to Alaska in 2004. Was pretty noticeable I had slowed down quite a bit since my 2001 Alaska flight. My flying days were much shorter. Can't slow down too much or I'll never make it there and back. I remember a gentleman flying a Pioneer Flightstar from NC, I believe, to Arizona or some place out west back in the 1984- 85 time period. He was either 60 or 65 years old at the time. I still remember how impressed I was that this old geezer still had the will, drive, and ability to complete a flight of this type. Of course back then, a cross country flight in an ultralight was very rare. I thought, at the time, I wanted to do something like that when I got that age. Well, that age has come and gone before I knew it. Hopefully, I can still do it. Time flies when you are having fun. john h mkIII ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.