---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/04/09: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:33 AM - Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In (cristalclear13) 2. 06:53 AM - Re: Can you help out a guy down on his luck? (George Myers) 3. 06:56 AM - Re: Alaska 2009 (lucien) 4. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) 5. 07:55 AM - Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas (TheWanderingWench) 6. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) 7. 08:41 AM - Welcoming a "new" resource (TheWanderingWench) 8. 08:59 AM - Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas (lucien) 9. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In (John Hauck) 10. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas (John Hauck) 11. 09:46 AM - name of airline (boyd) 12. 09:57 AM - Re: How much should I pay for a 1993 Firestar? (Mike Howe) 13. 10:25 AM - Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In (cristalclear13) 14. 10:31 AM - Re: name of airline (cristalclear13) 15. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In (John Hauck) 16. 11:03 AM - Finished, well almost, hatch cover (Richard Girard) 17. 11:21 AM - Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In (cristalclear13) 18. 12:06 PM - Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In (cristalclear13) 19. 12:13 PM - Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas (lucien) 20. 12:56 PM - Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th (grantr) 21. 03:47 PM - oil pressure guage problem (Jim Kmet) 22. 04:02 PM - Fw: Kolb History (Jim Hauck) 23. 04:19 PM - Re: oil pressure guage problem (John Hauck) 24. 04:46 PM - Re: oil pressure guage problem (Mike Welch) 25. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: How much should I pay for a 1993 Firestar? (HShack@aol.com) 26. 05:08 PM - Re: oil pressure guage problem (Jim Kmet) 27. 05:11 PM - Re: oil pressure guage problem (Jim Kmet) 28. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas (Richard Girard) 29. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (russ kinne) 30. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) 31. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (russ kinne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In From: "cristalclear13" John Hauck wrote: > > > Cristal: > > I may surprise you. It is 220 sm, about 3 hours, and 15 gal gas one way. > > Weather is forecast for "great" from here to there and back, marginal wind, > CAVU, temps in the 70s. > > If I can get out of here early enough, I may fly over for breakfast. > > I'm so excited!!! :D Right now Douglas is forecasting 49 temp and 49 dew point at 7am so there may be some low visibility in the morning. I may get there late as well. If you'll let me know you're coming (I'll give you my cell#), then I'll wait there in Douglas until you get there. [Idea] If you don't get there in time for breakfast we'll go across the street to Pizza Hut (or wherever) for lunch. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233122#233122 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:39 AM PST US From: "George Myers" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Can you help out a guy down on his luck? Perhaps we should all remember that Homer wasn't designing a better airplane he was designing and building a cheaper airplane. George -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Hague Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:35 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Can you help out a guy down on his luck? At 09:54 PM 3/3/2009, Mike Welch wrote: > >PS. I often find it best to just keep some things to myself (or share my >opinion privately to someone on the list) John H thinks he's the ultimate >authority when it comes to all things Kolb. NOT in my opinion, he isn't!! I don't know if John's the "ultimate authority", I don't _always_ agree with him, but he's been flying Kolbs for longer than nearly anybody else except Homer and Dennis, so he's always worth listening to. Listen, and then (as he himself would say) make up your own mind. -Dana -- A day without sunshine is like, night. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 From: "lucien" I'm still "only" 46, but am already transitioning into being an older dude. The main benefit is your resistance to taking zhit from the younger gung-ho's with lots of testosterone goes steadily upwards. OTOH, you start to realize your flying time is ultimately finite, so you need to do more of it. I'm still trying to see if I like the long xcountry flying, as my admiration for you folks that do it is as high as for probably anyone else on the earth. So far, tho, I seem to be reverting back to my UL flying habits, preferring to go "up" over going over yonder. But even tho Im a little bit of an infidel, you're welcome to fly through KSAF and I'd love to at least shake your hand if you do. Might be a little off your route, but that's a standing invitation at any rate. I'm still kicking the Firefly idea around too, tho that's still a ways out after I pay off some more of my current stuff. So hope to be part of the Kolb family again.. LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233134#233134 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:27 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 > My instructor is in his early 80s and still instructing.Its 20 years since > he sent me into the sky by my lonsome. Its now my turn to teach him how to > operate a 1914 Ford T. How times change. > > Tony Tony/Gang: Flying my Kolb is no problem. I think I can continue to fly it for quite some time, as long as I can get it out of the hanger. Need to do some landscaping to cut down on the slope toward the hanger. Been having a hard time pushing the fat mkIII up hill. Doing an Alaska flight is much more physically and mentally demanding than flying around the patch. The mental and physical part affect each other. When I get really tired, it is easy to make dumb decisions. Weather extremes play Hell physically and mentally. Like the 2004 Alaska flight, I got into a situation where I ran out of visibility, could not get through a 4,000 foot pass because the ceiling was 3,000 feet. I was getting low on fuel, so I could not take an alternate route up the river around the mountain. It was drizzling rain, cold, late in the day, been flying all day, tired and hungry, had not had a good meal that day. Murphy was piling up on me. I found a straight section of road on the side of the mountain that had a small, muddy pull out to get the mkIII off the highway. When the road was clear, I was on the ground. I was a long way out in the bush. Nothing out there but me and the bears. I got my tent up in the rain and mud, grabbed my tiny .22 survival rifle, and crashed for the night. Luckily, I had a satellite phone to call Whitehorse FSS and cancel my flight plan. The FSS operator asked me if I got the airplane off the highway when I told him I had landed there. ;-) That was 5 years ago when I was 65. Of course, I have the question in my mine, "Can I still do it?" Other times I got into situations where I had to physically man handle the aircraft on the ground to get it into a place out of the wind when there was no way to get it tied down. This type situation happens at the end of a long flying day when mind and body are worn out. Easy to make some dumb decisions. I got a severe chill when I landed at Eagle Plains, Yukon Territory. I was shaking like a leaf, uncontrollably. In a situation like that it is hard to think, much less push a heavy airplane in the wind around a bunch of old sheds and buildings. I think if I take my time, think ahead of the envelope, I can make it and still enjoy my flight. Probably have to slow down some, not push, and take a little longer to get there and get home. Weather and patience are primary factors in accomplishing this flight. It really gets hard, at times, to sit in the middle of nowhere waiting on weather.... Better be careful or I'll talk myself out of the flight. ;-) john h ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:00 AM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas Hi folks, There's been a lot of discussion about the terrible attributes of using E-10 in our engines. There's a fellow from Oregon who's doing something about it. Dean Billings formed e0pc - the Ethanol-free Premium Coalition.It's a greass roots national association of folks who are trying to get state legislatures to require ethanol-free premium gas. I'm putting the e0pc.com decal on my Drifter and will be carrying one-page flyers on my cross country flight, putting them up at every FBO I stop at. Here's some more information from him. I'd like to urge you to contact Dean and see if you can help out. Let's do something about it - in addition to writing about it! Arty >From Dean Billings: Ethanol Free Premium Coalition www.e0pc.com Prohibit Ethanol Blending In All Premium Unleaded Gasoline The unintended consequences of The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA 2007) is spreading ethanol into all of the auto gasoline in the country. Unleaded auto gasoline, referred to as "mogas" in aviation circles, is an FAA recognized aviation fuel because of the STC process, but it must not contain ethanol. Please help us insure the continued availability of ethanol free mogas for aviation use by joining the Ethanol Free Premium Coalition and supporting state laws prohibiting the blending of ethanol in premium unleaded gasoline. This fuel can be used in 100% of the Light Sport Aircraft and all mogas STC aircraft. We are a loose knit group of volunteers who are urging our state legislators to pass a bill that will insure that ethanol free fuel is available for all of the users that need it, including aircraft, watercraft, antique and classic cars, small engines, etc. Every mandatory E10 state has exemptions to their blending law, because there are a number of piston engine applications that should not, and some that cannot, use ethanol blended gasoline. Unfortunately the exemptions are not uniform. They vary from only one exemption in Washington, aircraft, to a universal exemption of premium unleaded in Missouri. All states exempt aircraft usage, but most states like Oregon and Washington make it almost impossible to get unblended gasoline. Oregon is the only state that allows for unblended regular and premium gasoline for the exemptions, and then makes it almost impossible to get any unblended gasoline. All other mandatory ethanol states just allow clear premium unleaded gasoline for the exempted classes. The following piston engine applications should not use ethanol blended gasoline: . Any 2 cycle engine used in tools, watercraft, snowmobiles, etc., or small 4 cycle engines. . Any engines used in an emergency stationary engine application like a generator, especially in a humid climate. . All watercraft. Ethanol blended gasoline should never be used in a marine environment. . Antique and classic cars and classic motorcycles. . All aircraft. All of these users must be able to get ethanol free (E0) gasoline. If you live in a state without a mandatory ethanol blending law, you have no exemptions, ethanol will eventually be blended into all of your unleaded gasoline and there is no requirement in EISA 2007 to label gas pumps with ethanol content. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:17 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 > But even tho Im a little bit of an infidel, you're welcome to fly through KSAF and I'd love to at least shake your hand if you do. Might be a little off your route, but that's a standing invitation at any rate. > > LS Lucien: Come May you need to load and fire up the Titan, point it west, and head for MV. It is 220 sm from Santa Fe Airport to Gouldings airstrip, a little over two hour flight in a Titan. If you couldn't spend the weekend with us, you could fly over, have lunch, then fly back home. Thanks for the invite to Santa Fe. I have never been there. I'll take you up on it one of these flights. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:34 AM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: Welcoming a "new" resource I know folks on this list often ask "where's a good place to get ____ done?" Sometimes it's engine work, sometimes it's fabrication or modification work, sometimes it's where to buy something. A longtime friend of mine, Joel Jacobson, who has been working on ultralights and LSA's or over 20 years, has decided to let the word out. He's opened Oregon Light Sport, (www.oregonlightsport.com) based in Wilderville, Oregon, (near Grants Pass) and manufactures modifications and accessories primarily for Quicksilver, but also for Max-Air, Rans, Kolb, and many other LSAs. He's done a ton of work building, maintaining, and improving the Quicksilver MX series. He also works with the southern Oregon Quicksilver dealer, Pacific Microlights, to do complete kit builds or kit building assistance. (Why am I not posting this just to the Quicksilver list? Because he's done work on my Drifter, as well as Titans, Kolbs, and many others.) You also might want to know that he does custom machine fabrication and modifications for LSA, as well as custom instrument panels for larger experimental and certifed GA aircraft. I'm always happy when a really well-qualified repairman is available for work on our ultralights and LSAs - so wanted to share the news. Arty Trost Maxair Drifter Sandy, Oregon www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas From: "lucien" Arty Trost wrote: > Hi folks, > There's been a lot of discussion about the terrible attributes of using E-10 in our engines. There's a fellow from Oregon who's doing something about it. Dean Billings formed e0pc - the Ethanol-free Premium Coalition.It's a greass roots national association of folks who are trying to get state legislatures to require ethanol-free premium gas. I'm putting the e0pc.com decal on my Drifter and will be carrying one-page flyers on my cross country flight, putting them up at every FBO I stop at. > Here's some more information from him. I'd like to urge you to contact Dean and see if you can help out. Let's do something about it - in addition to writing about it! > > Arty > > Just for what it's worth, Remember that the oil lobbies control the laws on ethanol now, not us. So beware that you'll need a VERY large stick to try to beat E10 out of the system legally. A group of trikers here in new mexico have been trying for about a year to get a bill passed in our state legislature requiring ethanol-free unleaded to be available (in some form) for aviation use. The oil lobby has shot it down every single time to the point it doesn't even get out onto the floor. This is despite support for our legislators, virtually all the airport managers and everyone else involved in aviation here. They're going to try again next year, but I think the writing is on the wall as to who has the gold in this situation. So my advice, fight the good fight, but don't put all your eggs in that basket. Government by the people is no longer applicable to E10. We rotax drivers may be relieved of this problem somewhat in the near future anyway, as, according to Ronnie Smith, Rotax is shortly to approve the use of E10 in the 912 series and hopefully by extension the 2-strokes also. Hopefully when the SI or SB comes out it'll have guidlines for us to follow for the use of E10. BTW, Ronnie also says Rotax is extending the TBO of the 912 series to 2000 hours, which will lower the long term cost by a fair bit as well. LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233155#233155 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:06 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In > I'm so excited!!! :D Right now Douglas is forecasting 49 temp > > -------- > Cristal Waters Cristal: Think I'll fly over to Douglas Friday afternoon late. That will be a lot easier for me, rather than trying to get up really early and getting out of here in time to make breakfast in Douglas Saturday morning. I'll load my camping gear and some MRE's, spend the night at Douglas Airport. Do you know if they have an FBO or hanger I can crash in? If not, I'll have my tent and sleeping bag. Understand there are places to eat within walking distance of the airport? Looking forward to a nice flight and meeting some new folks at Douglas. For those that have not gotten the cross country bug, half of cross country flights, especially long ones, is all about meeting the great people along the way. The flight around CONUS and up to Alaska in 1994, was an experience in cultures. I was with the Cajuns in LA, Mexicans in TX, weirdos in CA (did I say that? just kidding), other cultures in the NW, and on and on around the country. 99.9% of these folks were friendly and helpful to a guy and his little airplane so far away from home. Now, when I fly back through places from here to Alaska, I have friends I have met through Homer Kolb's airplanes. It is as much fun going back, renewing friendships, as it was the first time around. Weather looks good for camping out in Douglas, GA, Friday night. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:05 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas > BTW, Ronnie also says Rotax is extending the TBO of the 912 series to 2000 hours, which will lower the long term cost by a fair bit as well. > > LS Lucien: This extention is very good. My first 912UL in 1994, had a 600 hour TBO. Keep in mind, the TBO is recommended, not mandatory, for experimental homebuilts. That goes for two strokes also. I have always had the philosophy that the 912 engines would go at least 3000 hours with no significant problems. May have to pull the heads and grind the valves. Other than that, accessories such as carbs and carb parts, spark plug sockets, etc., will wear out and require replacement. If my 912ULS is running good, putting out the same power it was when it was new, ain't no way I would ship it to a Rotax Service Center to have it torn down and rebuilt when it accumulates 2,000 hours. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:38 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: Kolb-List: name of airline Crystal I saw a cartoon a while back,,,, the name of your airline should be TWA " teeny weenie airline" Do not archive Boyd Young Kolb MkIII C 560+ hours and counting Brigham City Utah. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:57:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How much should I pay for a 1993 Firestar? From: "Mike Howe" OK. Looking for any last minute support on what to pay for this plane. Please respond, call or mail me. I need the input before finalizing this deal. Thank you. Mike 616-862-8061 -------- Mike Howe Grand Rapids, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233171#233171 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:34 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In From: "cristalclear13" John Hauck wrote: > > > Cristal: > > Think I'll fly over to Douglas Friday afternoon late. That will be a lot > easier for me, rather than trying to get up really early and getting out of > here in time to make breakfast in Douglas Saturday morning. > > I'll load my camping gear and some MRE's, spend the night at Douglas > Airport. > > Do you know if they have an FBO or hanger I can crash in? If not, I'll have > my tent and sleeping bag. > > Understand there are places to eat within walking distance of the airport? > > Looking forward to a nice flight and meeting some new folks at Douglas. > > Weather looks good for camping out in Douglas, GA, Friday night. > > john h > mkIII John, I called the guy at the FBO there and they lock up at 6pm with no way to get in. He said he wouldn't mind if you camped out. I called the lady on the flyer and she said there are a couple motels just across the street. There are some eating places within walking distance. If you want to fly a little farther to Waycross on Friday my family would gladly welcome you to our home for the night, then you could fly over to Douglas with the Waycross airport bums in the morning. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233176#233176 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:20 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: name of airline From: "cristalclear13" by0ung(at)brigham.net wrote: > Crystal > > I saw a cartoon a while back,,,, the name of your airline should be TWA teeny weenie airline > > Do not archive > > > Boyd Young > Kolb MkIII C 560+ hours and counting > Brigham City Utah. > LOL! [Laughing] That is funny! -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233178#233178 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:18 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In He said he wouldn't mind if you camped out. I called the lady on the flyer and she said there are a couple motels just across the street. There are some eating places within walking distance. > > If you want to fly a little farther to Waycross on Friday my family would > gladly welcome you to our home for the night, then you could fly over to > Douglas with the Waycross airport bums in the morning. > > -------- > Cristal Waters Thanks for the invite, but I will opt for the tent and sleeping bag at Douglas. Won't have to get up so early. Motels? Don't need no stinking motels. hehehe I started barnstorming Kolbs, sleeping under the wing, because that is all I could afford. When I could afford to stay in a motel, I decided it was easier, still a lot cheaper, and saved a lot more time and effort to sleep with the airplane. It is my Boy Scout instinct I guess. Used to love to camp out when I was a kid. Never got over it. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:22 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Finished, well almost, hatch cover From: Richard Girard Back into the nice pre-springtime weather again after sub zero wind chill factors last weekend. So much easier to work without mittens and a snorkle coat. Finished up trimming the hatch cover and doing all the countersinks for the attachment screws just before lunch. All that's left is the repair on the old antenna mount holes and the hatch is done. Temps in the 80's tomorrow will be perfect for a little composite work. Rick ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In From: "cristalclear13" John Hauck wrote: > > Thanks for the invite, but I will opt for the tent and sleeping bag at > Douglas. Won't have to get up so early. > > Motels? Don't need no stinking motels. hehehe I started barnstorming > Kolbs, sleeping under the wing, because that is all I could afford. When I > could afford to stay in a motel, I decided it was easier, still a lot > cheaper, and saved a lot more time and effort to sleep with the airplane. > It is my Boy Scout instinct I guess. Used to love to camp out when I was a > kid. Never got over it. > > john h > mkIII Ok. Sounds like fun! By the way, he said the building opens at 8am. Look forward to seeing you there! I got my ticket to fly in Douglas from a man named Bob Harless with Harless Aviation. Maybe you can meet him. He's a great guy. Here's what others wrote about him: http://forums.jetcareers.com/checkride-central/1744-bob-harless-de-douglas-ga-dqh.html On my checkride he took me out of Douglas to the country and we did our maneuvers, turning this way and that. Then he said, "Where is the airport?" I looked around at the various tools I could use to get us back there and he said, "Just point." And I pointed the direction I thought it was and he said, "Let's go." And a couple minutes later he turned and asked me, "Do you have a GPS in your pocket?" After I saw him turn his head and chuckle I realized he was teasing me because we were apparently on the right track and I told him it was in my head. (Didn't want to tell him my husband says I have iron boogers in my nose! ) :D Sure enough after about 5-10 minutes the airport was dead ahead. What fun that checkride ended up being. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233197#233197 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:44 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Douglas, Georgia Fly-In From: "cristalclear13" cristalclear13 wrote: > (Didn't want to tell him my husband says I have iron boogers in my nose! ) :D BTW...here's the quote from Home Improvement show with Tim Allen referring to iron boogers. I don't know if that is the origin of that phrase but hopefully you all have a sense of humor about it: Wilson: Tim, don't sell your stupid instincts short. Do you realize that people have a tiny compass in their nose? Tim: I was never aware of that. No. Wilson: Yes, people have a tiny iron deposit in their nose. And that gives them directions to magnetic north and since men have more iron in their bodies than women, it only follows that they would make a better compass. Tim: Then how come I couldn't find the wedding? Wilson: Well, Tim, a map is a little more acurate than your nose. It's also a heck of a lot easier to fold. Tim: [Later; to Jill] I just got all disoriented, even though my nose is filled with iron boogers. do not archive -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233208#233208 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas From: "lucien" John Hauck wrote: > > > Lucien: > > This extention is very good. My first 912UL in 1994, had a 600 hour TBO. > > Keep in mind, the TBO is recommended, not mandatory, for experimental > homebuilts. That goes for two strokes also. > > I have always had the philosophy that the 912 engines would go at least 3000 > hours with no significant problems. May have to pull the heads and grind > the valves. Other than that, accessories such as carbs and carb parts, > spark plug sockets, etc., will wear out and require replacement. > > If my 912ULS is running good, putting out the same power it was when it was > new, ain't no way I would ship it to a Rotax Service Center to have it torn > down and rebuilt when it accumulates 2,000 hours. > > john h > mkIII Well I guess even for us experimental 912 drivers we can go on out to 2000 hours without wondering anyway ;). The flight schools will hopefully realize the increased value tho, since I think the commercial operations have to overhaul at TBO? Unless I start flying more I dont think I'll ever wear mine out as long as it stays together (fingers crossed). It'll rot away a fair bit before I could put 2000 hours on it. so far my 912uls has been a good engine. It's got just over 300 hours on it now so it's just now gettin' broke in. I've never owned an engine that leaked no fluids whatsoever like this one..... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233211#233211 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:56:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th From: "grantr" http://www.fireantfestival.com/Fire-Ant-Fly-In.38.0.html If work and weather permits I will be flying over Saturday morning. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233218#233218 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:43 PM PST US From: "Jim Kmet" Subject: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Guys (& Gals)I`m finishing my 912 install & hit a small snag. The oil pressure sender has 4 wires. The (Westach)oil pressure guage has 6. The 4 that go to the sender from the guage are readily identified, the other 2,are , 1 black (ground ) 1 red, for (power supply). Problem. When I introduced power (12 V) to the guage, it imediately pegged "full" to the right, When I disconnected the sender, it went to "60 lbs". When I disconnect the ground wire, whether the sender was connected or not, it stayed at "0". Obviously the engine was not running, & I have double checked that it is connected as I have explained. This guage & sender combo was used in a plane before, all I did was move it from one to another. No paperwork on the guage. Did I screw something up that I missed? any Ideas? Thanks in advance, Jim Kmet getting close to a 912 pwered Mk-3C ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:38 PM PST US From: "Jim Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: Kolb History > > > > Y'all; >> >> I just returned from spending three weeks with Homer Kolb. I always have >> a good time with Homer. >> >> The first Kolb MK III was shipped to Rudy Doctor in Late January 1991. >> >> Soon after Rudy received the kit, I was at Homers assisting on getting >> MKIII's built and shipped from late January to early April 1991. I >> assisted Rudy on installing the first 912 on a MkIII Kolb and welding up >> his exhaust system. The second 912 mounted on a MKIII was Bro John's a >> couple years later. >> >> The engine mount was basically the same as is used today, aluminum angle. >> This was done late at night after I finished getting parts out for other >> MKIII kits that was back ordered. >> >> Reference the comment Homer built "CHEAP" airplane kits may be a little >> on the down side, as everything thing that went into Homers kit was first >> grade material and workmanship. He manufactured a first grade affordable, >> safe, reliable airplane that helped put a lot of people in the air > > >> Homer, though retired from manufacturing kits, is still designing and >> building "Ultralight" airplanes, along with playing with some 28 antique >> tractors he has restored and is in the process of restoring. He is >> currently working on a very light airplane which he should have flying >> this summer. The heaviest part of the airplane will be Homer. :) >> >> In June I will return to Homer's. We will put in the gearing for a grist >> mill his Grand Father owned and Homer is restoring. It dates back to the >> early 1800's. >> >> Hope to see Y'all at the Kolb Fly In in June. >> >> Jim Hauck > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3908 (20090304) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:19:03 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Jim K: Did you ground the engine to the airframe with a good sized ground cable or strap? I had a hell of a time with my gauges when I initially installed a 912 on my mkIII. Come to find out, I had forgotten to ground engine to airframe. john h mkIII Guys (& Gals)I`m finishing my 912 install & hit a small snag. The oil pressure sender has 4 wires. The (Westach)oil pressure guage has 6. The 4 that go to the sender from the guage are readily identified, the other 2,are , 1 black (ground ) 1 red, for (power supply). Problem. When I introduced power (12 V) to the guage, it imediately pegged "full" to the right, When I disconnected the sender, it went to "60 lbs". When I disconnect the ground wire, whether the sender was connected or not, it stayed at "0". Obviously the engine was not running, & I have double checked that it is connected as I have explained. This guage & sender combo was used in a plane before, all I did was move it from one to another. No paperwork on the guage. Did I screw something up that I missed? any Ideas? Thanks in advance, Jim Kmet getting close to a 912 pwered Mk-3C ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:41 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Jim=2C When you applied the 12V=2C and it pegged the gauge=2C it sounds like you hooked up the sending unit's voltage input wire. The sending unit will b e sending millivolts to the gauge (when the gauge sees pressure) Go to Westburg gauges for your particular oil gauge and check out their w iring diagram for you. I don't know your gauge model=2C but here's oner of their instruction pages. http://www.westach.com/instructions/2C8.JPG or www.westach.com Good luck=2C Mike Welch do not archive From: jlsk1@frontiernet.net Subject: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Guys (& Gals)I`m finishing my 912 install & hit a small snag. The oil pres sure sender has 4 wires. The (Westach)oil pressure guage has 6. The 4 that go to the sender from the guage are readily identified=2C the other 2=2Care =2C 1 black (ground ) 1 red=2C for (power supply). Problem. When I introdu ced power (12 V) to the guage=2C it imediately pegged "full" to the right =2C When I disconnected the sender=2C it went to "60 lbs". When I disconne ct the ground wire=2C whether the sender was connected or not=2C it stayed at "0". Obviously the engine was not running=2C & I have double checked tha t it is connected as I have explained. This guage & sender combo was used i n a plane before=2C all I did was move it from one to another. No paperwork on the guage. Did I screw something up that I missed? any Ideas? Thanks in advance=2C Jim Kmet getting close to a 912 pwered Mk-3C _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:00 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: How much should I pay for a 1993 Firestar? If the covering is good [including the paint], maybe $4k. This if you aren't gonna have to spend much time or $ to get it flying. YMMV Howard Shackleford FS II SC In a message dated 3/4/2009 12:57:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, howetyr@yahoo.com writes: Looking for any last minute support on what to pay for this plane. Please respond, call or mail me. I need the input before finalizing this deal. Thank you. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:54 PM PST US From: "Jim Kmet" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Yep, engine grounded with a pencil sized wire.. The oil temp guage verified this .I just found Westachs website, & on the troubleshooting page it sez to make sure the sender & gauge are grounded at the exact same point. I just tried to call them to confirm that the black wire from the sender is the ground wire.Do you think I`m safe in assuming that is the case? seems odd that there would be 2 black wires comming from the back of the guage, & both are grounds, one to airframe & 1 to sender, but need to be grounded at the same place. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Jim K: Did you ground the engine to the airframe with a good sized ground cable or strap? I had a hell of a time with my gauges when I initially installed a 912 on my mkIII. Come to find out, I had forgotten to ground engine to airframe. john h mkIII Guys (& Gals)I`m finishing my 912 install & hit a small snag. The oil pressure sender has 4 wires. The (Westach)oil pressure guage has 6. The 4 that go to the sender from the guage are readily identified, the other 2,are , 1 black (ground ) 1 red, for (power supply). Problem. When I introduced power (12 V) to the guage, it imediately pegged "full" to the right, When I disconnected the sender, it went to "60 lbs". When I disconnect the ground wire, whether the sender was connected or not, it stayed at "0". Obviously the engine was not running, & I have double checked that it is connected as I have explained. This guage & sender combo was used in a plane before, all I did was move it from one to another. No paperwork on the guage. Did I screw something up that I missed? any Ideas? Thanks in advance, Jim Kmet getting close to a 912 pwered Mk-3C ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:30 PM PST US From: "Jim Kmet" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Mike, Thanks for the point to the wiring diagrams, I found the 6 pin connector guage that I have, (actually, there were 2 models, but wired up the same. Couldn`t read the stuff on the website, but they came out clear when I printed them.There IS a red wire that goes directly to a 12-24v source. Other than grounding the sender to the same point as the guage as mentioned on the trobleshooting page, I wired this thing up correctly according to the diagrams. I`ll follow this up with a call to them Thursday, to ask the grounding q. Thanks all, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Welch To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Jim, When you applied the 12V, and it pegged the gauge, it sounds like you hooked up the sending unit's voltage input wire. The sending unit will be sending millivolts to the gauge (when the gauge sees pressure) Go to Westburg gauges for your particular oil gauge and check out their wiring diagram for you. I don't know your gauge model, but here's oner of their instruction pages. http://www.westach.com/instructions/2C8.JPG or www.westach.com Good luck, Mike Welch do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: jlsk1@frontiernet.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Kolb-List: oil pressure guage problem Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:47:02 -0600 Guys (& Gals)I`m finishing my 912 install & hit a small snag. The oil pressure sender has 4 wires. The (Westach)oil pressure guage has 6. The 4 that go to the sender from the guage are readily identified, the other 2,are , 1 black (ground ) 1 red, for (power supply). Problem. When I introduced power (12 V) to the guage, it imediately pegged "full" to the right, When I disconnected the sender, it went to "60 lbs". When I disconnect the ground wire, whether the sender was connected or not, it stayed at "0". Obviously the engine was not running, & I have double checked that it is connected as I have explained. This guage & sender combo was used in a plane before, all I did was move it from one to another. No paperwork on the guage. Did I screw something up that I missed? any Ideas? Thanks in advance, Jim Kmet getting close to a 912 pwered Mk-3C ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Windows Live=99: Life without walls. Check it out. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Stop Whining and Help Fight Ethanol-blended Gas From: Richard Girard Lucien, I went over the TBO question with the guys at the Light Sport Branch a few months ago. Whether you have to overhaul at TBO , for S-LSA anyway, depends upon how the aircraft manufacturer writes his maintenance manual. If the manual says service the engine per Rotax, then you are bound by the TBO as spec'd by Rotax. If they give their own maintenance schedule, then when to overhaul is up to the condition of the engine. If it passes whatever checks are specified, say oil pressure and compression, then you are free to keep on flying as long as the engine passes those checks. Rick On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:12 PM, lucien wrote: > > > John Hauck wrote: > > > > > > Lucien: > > > > This extention is very good. My first 912UL in 1994, had a 600 hour TBO. > > > > Keep in mind, the TBO is recommended, not mandatory, for experimental > > homebuilts. That goes for two strokes also. > > > > I have always had the philosophy that the 912 engines would go at least > 3000 > > hours with no significant problems. May have to pull the heads and grind > > the valves. Other than that, accessories such as carbs and carb parts, > > spark plug sockets, etc., will wear out and require replacement. > > > > If my 912ULS is running good, putting out the same power it was when it > was > > new, ain't no way I would ship it to a Rotax Service Center to have it > torn > > down and rebuilt when it accumulates 2,000 hours. > > > > john h > > mkIII > > > Well I guess even for us experimental 912 drivers we can go on out to 2000 > hours without wondering anyway ;). > > The flight schools will hopefully realize the increased value tho, since I > think the commercial operations have to overhaul at TBO? > > Unless I start flying more I dont think I'll ever wear mine out as long as > it stays together (fingers crossed). It'll rot away a fair bit before I > could put 2000 hours on it. > > so far my 912uls has been a good engine. It's got just over 300 hours on it > now so it's just now gettin' broke in. > > I've never owned an engine that leaked no fluids whatsoever like this > one..... > > LS > > -------- > LS > Titan II SS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233211#233211 > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:34:46 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 About selling articles & photos -- one big advantage, if it applies to you, is that you can deduct some or all of your expenses from your taxes -- IF you sell an article or at least make an honest effort to do so. Talk to your tax man. And good luck. Russ K On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > John, > > I've written four articles that were published in EAA's Light Sport > Magazine over the last couple of years. I got paid. If they like > what you send them, and you ask for payment, they will pay.... not > a lot but it makes it worthwhile. Contact Mary Jones if you are > interested. A heads up, they don't do much editing, so your > finished copy, at least the words, need to be "reader ready". The > only editing I've seen in my articles was injecting errors that > were not in the copy I sent them :-). > > do not archive > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY > http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi > http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix > > A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved > from a simple system that works. > - John Gaule > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=232903#232903 > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:35 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 > About selling articles & photos -- one big advantage, if it applies to > you, is that you can deduct some or all of your expenses from your > taxes -- > Russ K That would be great. However, I don't make enough money to list deductions. Better for me to take a standard deduction. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:24 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 One thing I've noticed in recent years is how much the young girls' vision has deteriorated! They used to look at me, now they can't even see me -- look right through me. BAH! Maybe when I get a Mark III they'll notice -- Russ K On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:07 AM, John Hauck wrote: > > > > Welcome to the over 70 flying club. A few years ago, I could > look at an old >> codger and say to my self "I will never look like that." Now when >> I look in >> the mirror to shave, I see that person. > > >> Jack B. Hart FF004 > > > Thanks, Jack: > > Cool being an old codger. I get away with a lot more sh_t now than > I could in my younger days. ;-) > > Yea, sometimes the mirror is shocking, until I figure out who that > old fart is looking back. > > I'm not as mobile, flexible, or strong as I was a few years ago, > but when I get in the Kolb, I fell like I am 18 again. I don't > know that my ability to fly well has deminished any. However, I > have not been flying nearly as much as I used to. This shows up as > a rusty old pilot right away. A day or two into a long cross > country and I am back in the groove flying and staying ahead of the > airplane and my navigation. > > john h > mkIII > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.