---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/09/09: 40 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:45 AM - Wing Center Section (icrashrc) 2. 05:17 AM - Re: WWII Flight Training Museum and Flight to Douglas, GA (cristalclear13) 3. 06:01 AM - Merry Dawn in flight pictures (cristalclear13) 4. 06:14 AM - Re: Merry Dawn in flight pictures (grantr) 5. 06:22 AM - Re: Merry Dawn in flight pictures (cristalclear13) 6. 06:47 AM - Re: Wing Center Section (John Hauck) 7. 06:50 AM - Rotax 912 UL for sale (george.mueller@aurora.org) 8. 06:54 AM - Re: Merry Dawn in flight pictures (John Hauck) 9. 07:04 AM - Douglas weather (Jim Hauck) 10. 07:34 AM - Re:Valley Engineerings Big Twin Engine (Jimmy Young) 11. 07:48 AM - Re: Douglas weather (cristalclear13) 12. 08:18 AM - Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps (TheWanderingWench) 13. 08:21 AM - Re: Alaska 2009 (jimhefner) 14. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: Alaska 2009 (John Hauck) 15. 09:03 AM - Atmospheric Pressure (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL) 16. 09:41 AM - Re: Atmospheric Pressure (John Hauck) 17. 09:41 AM - Re: Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th (cristalclear13) 18. 10:01 AM - Re: Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th (grantr) 19. 10:22 AM - Re: Atmospheric Pressure (Jimmy Young) 20. 10:56 AM - Re: Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th (cristalclear13) 21. 11:53 AM - Re:Re: Atmospheric Pressure (Jimmy Young) 22. 12:34 PM - Re: Re:Re: Atmospheric Pressure (John Hauck) 23. 01:04 PM - Re: Atmospheric Pressure (JetPilot) 24. 01:16 PM - Re: Wing Center Section (JetPilot) 25. 01:42 PM - Re: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 26. 01:56 PM - Re: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps (TheWanderingWench) 27. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: Wing Center Section (John Hauck) 28. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Wing Center Section (John Hauck) 29. 03:08 PM - Re: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps (JetPilot) 30. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps (TheWanderingWench) 31. 05:05 PM - UltraStar baggage (Dana Hague) 32. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: Atmospheric Pressure (robert bean) 33. 05:40 PM - Re: UltraStar baggage (John Hauck) 34. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Atmospheric Pressure (Dana Hague) 35. 06:20 PM - Re: Merry Dawn in flight pictures (ces308) 36. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: Atmospheric Pressure (Jack B. Hart) 37. 07:51 PM - tanks fer da memories (robert bean) 38. 08:27 PM - Re: tanks fer da memories (JetPilot) 39. 09:09 PM - Gap Seals - An Easy Way to Give your Kolb more control Autho (JetPilot) 40. 09:28 PM - finishing touches gap seal (Nelson, Craig) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:08 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Wing Center Section From: "icrashrc" I've added a fair amount to the page on the wing center section. http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/WingCenterSection.htm Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233836#233836 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:41 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: WWII Flight Training Museum and Flight to Douglas, GA From: "cristalclear13" John's Kolb is the first Kolb I've seen in flight (as a spectator from the ground). I've always been inside the Kolb or just seen videos. Watching Miss P'fer take off and turn and fly overhead was a beautiful sight. We all stood there watching silently as his plane grew smaller and smaller off in the distance. We continued to watch as if we were sitting in some theather watching the last of the credits scroll off the screen of a really good picture show that left us wanting more. Then his brother Jim broke the silence with one word, "Wellp", as if to say "ok kids, the movie's over, they won't play it again, it's time to go home." -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233848#233848 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:44 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Merry Dawn in flight pictures From: "cristalclear13" I plan to make a slideshow of the pictures I'm gathering from the Douglas Fly-In but couldn't wait to post these. First pictures I have of my Merry Dawn in flight. :D -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233854#233854 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/merry_dawn_in_flight7_647.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/merry_dawn_in_flight6_121.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/merry_dawn_in_flight4_336.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Merry Dawn in flight pictures From: "grantr" What time did you fly over? I drove to the airport Saturday morning and the fog was so heavy I could barley see the stop lights. Fog cleared around 11am. Did John make it? Nice pics! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233855#233855 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:18 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Merry Dawn in flight pictures From: "cristalclear13" grantr wrote: > What time did you fly over? I drove to the airport Saturday morning and the fog was so heavy I could barley see the stop lights. Fog cleared around 11am. Did John make it? > > Nice pics! My friend, Andy, took those pictures. He did a great job I thought. It was totally clear when I got to the Waycross airport a little after 8am. We flew for about 40-45 minutes and got to Douglas around 9:30 I think. Jim Hauck said he went through some very thick fog on his drive up from Florida. John flew in the night before and camped out at the Douglas airport. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233856#233856 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:47 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Wing Center Section > I've added a fair amount to the page on the wing center section. > > http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/WingCenterSection.htm > > Scott Looks good. One of these days I must figure out how to repair the fairing that was made for my mkIII in 2000. Let me know if you need the prop pitch tool back any time soon. I have to send my blades to Warp Drive to have them refurbished before I can adjust the pitch. Probably take a couple more weeks to get it done. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:57 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 UL for sale From: george.mueller@aurora.org In case anyone has a need, I have a Rotax 912 UL with 60 hours TTSN along with a Woodcomp Klassic 68" three blade prop 30 hours TTSN for sale on Barnstormers for $14,900. The engine is currently being gone over by an authorized Rotax dealer to make sure it is perfect. Email or 414-647-3134 if you are interested. I am selling because I need to upgrade to a 912S because I am putting floats on my airplane. George in Milwaukee Zenith 701 60 Hours Flying ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:06 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Merry Dawn in flight pictures > I plan to make a slideshow of the pictures I'm gathering from the Douglas Fly-In but couldn't wait to post these. First pictures I have of my Merry Dawn in flight. :D > > -------- > Cristal Waters I like to watch Kolbs fly too. Feel like Cristal, hardly ever get to see others, especially my own in flight. Thanks for sharing with us. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:16 AM PST US From: "Jim Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Douglas weather Y'all; I arrived at Douglas Airport at 0845 and it was sunny and bright. I had some duck waddling fog between Thomasville and Moultrie though. As usual we had to wait on the Lady pilot to arrive before we could chow down on a fantastic breakfast. :) All in all it was a fine day. Jim Hauck ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:28 AM PST US From: Jimmy Young Subject: Kolb-List: Re:Valley Engineerings Big Twin Engine Jerry, I have the Generac Valley Twin V on my Firestar. I've got 90 hrs of flight time on it since last summer. It works for me, where I fly out of, because I've got plenty of runway. Needs about 400' of roll to get off, climb rate is about 400 fpm, 60% of what the 503 did. Cruise and handling is the same as the 503 was. If you have other questions, just email me off list. Jimmy Young FS II, Generac V-twin ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Douglas weather From: "cristalclear13" jimh474(at)embarqmail.com wrote: > Y'all; > > I arrived at Douglas Airport at 0845 and it was sunny and bright. I had some > duck waddling fog between Thomasville and Moultrie though. > > As usual we had to wait on the Lady pilot to arrive before we could chow > down on a fantastic breakfast. :) > > All in all it was a fine day. > > Jim Hauck Aw, Be fair now Jim. If we hadn't have been fashionably late we would have hit all that traffic coming in at 9 and mine and my gyrocopter friend's fly-over wouldn't have been seen by many. :D I was concerned about getting to park next to John, but he was sitting there off to the side waiting for me so we got to park our Kolbs side-by-side. Thanks for thinking ahead John! -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233877#233877 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:18:48 AM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps Hi Kolbers, I've created a flight route for my Sun N Fun flight - it was very easy on Google Maps. I'd like to share it - and marked it as a "public" map. But when I go to Google Maps and search for Arty's 2009 Sun n Fun Flight Route (which is what I titled it) I can't find it. Is there anyone out there who is familiar with Google Maps and can help me out. You can send e-mail me directly so other Kolbers who aren't interested in the fine points of Google Maps don't have to wear out their finger hitting delete! Thanks, Arty Trost Sandy, OR www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure.htm ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:35 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 From: "jimhefner" John, I'm glad to see you are planning another AK trip this summer!! Good for you! About that age thing.... you've got lots of years of flying ahead of you if you stay active and your health holds up. I know a 90 yr old retired AF transport pilot who is still flying his beautiful Bonanza several times per week and is still passing his FAA yearly medical (needs yearly for insurance). Since you don't have to worry about medicals, you should be good for another 20-25 yrs of fun. Sounds like you need to get yourself (or make one) a motorized tug to pull that MK-III up the hill to the shed. Best of luck on your journey plans! -------- Jim Hefner Tucson, AZ Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233881#233881 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:29:19 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Alaska 2009 > John, I'm glad to see you are planning another AK trip this summer!! Good for you! > -------- > Jim Hefner Thanks, Jim H: Don't forget to come visit us at MV this year. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:03 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Atmospheric Pressure From: "Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL" Kolb Friends - Here's an interesting phenomenon I observed this weekend while working on my Mark-3: I put 10 gallons fuel into my gas tanks, but did not balance it evenly. After fueling, there were 7 gallons of gas in one tank, and 3 in the other. A fuel imbalance like this never bothers me, as it always balances out when I fly - both tanks tee into a single fuel line that goes to the engine. Usually, within a few minutes after taking off and with the engine drawing fuel from the tanks, the tanks settle to a level where they are exactly even. But yesterday, after fueling, I did not fly; I spent the afternoon working on my Kolb. To my surprise, both tanks were at EXACTLY the same level, two hours after I had added the gas. Apparently, the normal atmospheric pressure was enough to bubble the fuel thru the tee, with the tanks balancing themselves naturally. I had never seen this happen before. Kinda cool, as I did not think the natural ambient air pressure was enough to do this. Always something new to learn with this airplane! Dennis Kirby Mark-3, N93DK, in Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:41:31 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Atmospheric Pressure Dennis: Reckon it was gravity that equalized the level? john h mkIII ----- But yesterday, after fueling, I did not fly; I spent the afternoon working on my Kolb. To my surprise, both tanks were at EXACTLY the same l evel, two hours after I had added the gas. Apparently, the normal atmosphe ric pressure was enough to bubble the fuel thru the tee, with the tanks bal ancing themselves naturally. I had never seen this happen before. Kinda cool, as I did not think the natural ambient air pressure was enough to do this. Always something new t o learn with this airplane! Dennis Kirby ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:41:35 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th From: "cristalclear13" grantr wrote: > http://www.fireantfestival.com/Fire-Ant-Fly-In.38.0.html > > > If work and weather permits I will be flying over Saturday morning. Looks like fun Grant. Got some here in Waycross interested in it. I may try it too...weather permitting of course. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233889#233889 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:01:32 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th From: "grantr" Got what? Fire ants? No thank you we have plenty here too! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233894#233894 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:14 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Atmospheric Pressure From: "Jimmy Young" Dennis, The way I see it, pretty sure the tanks should balance out since they are connected via the fuel lines. Bottom draw tanks should level out due to a fluid seeking it's own level, top draw tanks due to the higher tank siphoning into the lower one. A top drawing pair of tanks may not balance out when the situation exists where the fuel has left the fuel line for some reason, such as when an engine has not run it a while and the fuel drains back to the tanks, or when you have opened a line for some reason during maintenance. In that case, once you prime the engine and start her up, they will level out. My tanks always balance out whether the engine is on or not, & mine draw from the top, except when I have opened the lines. Jimmy Y -------- Jimmy Young FS II, Generac V-Twin Houston TX area Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233896#233896 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:56:57 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fire Ant festival Flyin 75J Ashburn GA Saturday March 28th From: "cristalclear13" grantr wrote: > Got what? Fire ants? No thank you we have plenty here too! I HATE fireants! They LOVE me...they seek me out...especially if I try to wear sandals. I can't imagine any town having a festival named after fireants. I'll leave our Waycross fireants at home and hopefully bring some pilots, airplanes, and maybe a gyrocopter along with me. See you there I hope. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233899#233899 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:03 AM PST US From: "Jimmy Young" Subject: Kolb-List: Re:Re: Atmospheric Pressure >>Reckon it was gravity that equalized the level?<< Yeh, that's it. Good example of the KISS rule. Jimmy Y ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:34:35 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Re: Atmospheric Pressure If it was my airplane and I had two fuel tanks, I'd be pulling fuel from th e bottom instead of the top. Don't think I would have a leveling problem e ither. ;-) john h mkIII >>Reckon it was gravity that equalized the level?<< Yeh, that's it. Good example of the KISS rule. Jimmy Y ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:06 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Atmospheric Pressure From: "JetPilot" The stock MK III twin tanks that feed from the top will self equalize over time, either on the ground or in flight... It does so by gravity and Siphoning action. A siphon does not care if its feeding into another tank beside or below the full tank, it will siphon until the pressure, or levels of the gasoline are equal. Its a bit slow, but it works ! Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233928#233928 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:16:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Center Section From: "JetPilot" Scott, The is quite a nice center section, how long did it take you to do that entire process of making that ? Did you make the mold, and then use that female mold to cast your center section after it was off the plane ? John, Are you using the Warp Drive tool to set your pitch ? I thought you had a fairly new prop with tapered tips, why does it need to sent back ? Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233933#233933 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:43 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps Arty Can't help you with Google maps but have you ever tried the flight planner software at areoplanner.com? If you are a EAA member and you click on the right buttons the basic service is free. It allows you to input your speed and fuel range etc. When you enter your flight plan with major way points it gives you stack of custom knee board size charts with all the most current chart data printed with a highlighted wrought of flight with miles and times. If you print it just before you go it calculates all the times using weather service projected wind components. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheWanderingWench" Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps > > > > Hi Kolbers, > > I've created a flight route for my Sun N Fun flight - it was very easy on > Google Maps. I'd like to share it - and marked it as a "public" map. But > when I go to Google Maps and search for Arty's 2009 Sun n Fun Flight Route > (which is what I titled it) I can't find it. > > Is there anyone out there who is familiar with Google Maps and can help me > out. You can send e-mail me directly so other Kolbers who aren't > interested in the fine points of Google Maps don't have to wear out their > finger hitting delete! > > Thanks, > > Arty Trost > Sandy, OR > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure.htm > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 01:56:23 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps Hi Rick - I've used aeroplanner.com for flight planning. This is a little different - I just want to be able to show - on a visual map, rather than a written list - cities/airports along the route where we're likely to be landing. Google Maps has just what I want - I'm just trying to figure out why others seem to be able to get their maps to "show up" in a Google Maps search and I can't. Arty Trost Sandy, Oregon www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure.htm --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote: > Arty > > Can't help you with Google maps but have you ever tried the > flight planner software at areoplanner.com? > If you are a EAA member and you click on the right buttons > the basic service is free. It allows you to input your speed > and fuel range etc. When you enter your flight plan with > major way points it gives you stack of custom knee board > size charts with all the most current chart data printed > with a highlighted wrought of flight with miles and times. > If you print it just before you go it calculates all the > times using weather service projected wind components. > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW powered MKIIIC > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheWanderingWench" > > To: > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:17 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: Need help posting my flight route on > Google Maps > > > > > > > > > Hi Kolbers, > > > > I've created a flight route for my Sun N Fun flight - > it was very easy on Google Maps. I'd like to share it > - and marked it as a "public" map. But when I go to Google > Maps and search for Arty's 2009 Sun n Fun Flight Route > (which is what I titled it) I can't find it. > > > > Is there anyone out there who is familiar with Google > Maps and can help me out. You can send e-mail me > directly so other Kolbers who aren't interested in the fine > points of Google Maps don't have to wear out their finger > hitting delete! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arty Trost > > Sandy, OR > > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:16:25 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Center Section > Are you using the Warp Drive tool to set your pitch ? I thought you had a fairly new prop with tapered tips, why does it need to sent back ? > > Mike Mike B: I always have used the Warp Protractor, as long as I have been flying Warps. This time around I am going to do the final tweaking with a laser tool. I have flown taper tips since day one in 1993. Blades need to be returned to repair some small and a couple large dings I have accumulated since my return from Alaska in 2004. That is when I replaced the old prop with the new. Daryl will fix the dings, repaint the black and put me some nice white stripes on the tips. Then they will be rebalanced. I have done the same repairs, with JB Weld, in the past, including painting, which is done with a little masking tape and a can of flat black and one of gloss white from Walmart. Only thing I could not do was precision balance like Warp can do. Yes, stuff falls off my engine, mains throw up gravel and mud. Sometimes I forget to retrieve all the stuff I have on the wings before I crank. ;-) Result, dinged prop blades. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:16 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Center Section > Blades need to be returned to repair some small and a couple large dings I > have accumulated since my return from Alaska in 2004. The above is an error. I replaced the prop blades and hub two years ago when I installed the new 912ULS. Old age catching up with me again. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:52 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps From: "JetPilot" Arty, I tried to click on your URL www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure.htm But I get " URL not found " on that site... Can you recheck your URl, I would like to read about your plane and you flight. Thanks, Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233947#233947 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:53 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps My mistake! It should be: www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm Thanks for letting me know, I probably confused a lot of folks by inadvertently omitting the 2009 from the URL. Arty "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." --- On Mon, 3/9/09, JetPilot wrote: > From: JetPilot > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need help posting my flight route on Google Maps > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:08 PM > "JetPilot" > > Arty, > > I tried to click on your URL > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure.htm > > But I get " URL not found " on that site... Can you > recheck your URl, I would like to read about your plane and > you flight. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -------- > "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you > did not go as fast as you could have !!! > > Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233947#233947 > > > > > > > > Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:06 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Kolb-List: UltraStar baggage This is doubtless one for John Hauck who's done some traveling in his US, but anybody else, too... For Kolbs without cockpit enclosures (i.e. UltraStar) or other ultralights, how to carry stuff? By "stuff" I mean camping gear (sleeping bag, bivy sack, thermarest, and breakfast), tiedowns, etc. There are some nice looking cargo pods at , but they don't look like they hold much and the hatch is pretty small; about 3000 in should do it. One thought I had was to install a new fuel tank over the engine, and put a box where the original fuel tanks are... or, I could just build the cargo box above the engine. Or I could just lash my hiking backpack under the seat, but any spilled fuel will land there. I know some Quicksilver guys just unzip the sails and put soft stuff inside the wings, but we don't have zippers... -Dana -- The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts. ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:01 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Atmospheric Pressure Mike, I respectfully disagree. I have top suckers and they will stay at the same unequal level for years. -at least until they evaporate. I have them valved for either or both usage but it makes no diff how they are valved while out of use. BB On 9, Mar 2009, at 4:03 PM, JetPilot wrote: > > The stock MK III twin tanks that feed from the top will self > equalize over time, either on the ground or in flight... It does > so by gravity and Siphoning action. A siphon does not care if its > feeding into another tank beside or below the full tank, it will > siphon until the pressure, or levels of the gasoline are equal. > Its a bit slow, but it works ! > > > Mike > > -------- > "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast > as you could have !!! > > Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233928#233928 > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:54 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: UltraStar baggage > This is doubtless one for John Hauck who's done some traveling in his US, > but anybody else, too... > -Dana Dana: I did some cross country flights, 500 and 600 miles round trip, but those flights were did not include camping. I cheated and stayed with Brother Jim in Woodville, FL. Didn't do my first self supported, sleep under the wing cross country until October 1987. On my flights in the US, I carried a small rucksack for clothes and stuff. Bought a bungee cord type cargo net with hooks. Hooked it under the seat. Worked great. At the end of my US's life, I had a 6 gal tank under my knees, and a 1.75 gal go kart tank over the engine. That was a lot of fuel for a 35 hp Cuyuna. My initial cross country flights in the Firestar, I was able to get all my camping stuff and clothes inside, except my sleeping bag. We welded some tabs on the bottom of the fuselage just behind the main gear, used the same bungee cargo net to secure my sleeping bag. The next year we completely reconfigured the FS, 18 gal aluminum tank, cargo area under it. I could get all my stuff inside the airplane now. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:12 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Atmospheric Pressure At 08:37 PM 3/9/2009, robert bean wrote: > >Mike, I respectfully disagree. I have top suckers and they will stay >at the same unequal level for years. >-at least until they evaporate. > >I have them valved for either or both usage but it makes no diff how >they are valved while out of use. Tanks plumbed together below the fluid level will always equalize. Tanks plumbed together above the fluid level will equalize if and only if there's no air in the line... just like siphoning gas out of a car, you have to suck all the air out and get the tube full to below the level in the tank, then it will keep flowing. -Dana -- Lie ? Me ? Never! No, no, no, the truth is far too much fun! ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:25 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Merry Dawn in flight pictures From: "ces308" Nice pictures! There is nothing prettier than an airplane in flight! Even the ground looks good with no snow on it ! chris ambrose N327CS M3X-Jab Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233979#233979 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:29 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Atmospheric Pressure At 08:37 PM 3/9/09 -0400, you wrote: > >Mike, I respectfully disagree. I have top suckers and they will stay >at the same unequal level for years. >-at least until they evaporate. > >I have them valved for either or both usage but it makes no diff how >they are valved while out of use. >BB > Bob, If you vent both tanks to the atmosphere, and set your valve to connect both tanks, it should make an inverted siphon and the tanks will equalize. The only reason that they would not do so is if the siphon is broken, such as, fuel back feeding from the carburetor and/or the fuel pump due to a small air leak somewhere in the system. May be the valve is the culprit. This will cause a vapor lock in the inverted siphon and hence unequal levels. You may want to check it out. It is warming here so that I could fly, but the wind has been fierce. Knocked some shingles off the roof. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:47 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: tanks fer da memories Maybe gravity and/or atmospheric pressure works different in NY. The tanks are set up identical/reversable, both have long dip tubes cut at an angle on the ends. Handy dandy fuel valves good for visual checking. the vent tubes swivel on the cap fittings and are no problem when refueling. They keep the caps from falling into the yawning abyss. A little on the grimy side I admit but I don't enter any contests. :) -BB DSCN1874.JPG
________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:03 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: tanks fer da memories From: "JetPilot" I don't like the fuel valves on top of the tanks, if you were ever to get a slight air leak in one of the valves, you would lose your " Prime " and the lines would quickly fill with air, not drawing fuel anymore resulting in sudden engine failure. I agree with John H, I like the fuel to be fed from the bottom of the tank, but the Kolb system uses the top feed as in your picture and that is what I have. Given this, I have the best line and connections available on tops of the tank, with no valves or anything else above the BOTTOM level of the tanks, and no chance of an air leak resulting in a loss of prime in the lines and an engine failure. A leak below bottom level of the tank results in a drip rather than sudden engine failure, that is where I put my filters, gascolator, and fuel pump. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233995#233995 ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Gap Seals - An Easy Way to Give your Kolb more control Autho From: "JetPilot" Installing Gap Seals in on a Kolb is a very easy way to make the flight controls more responsive. Most people already have gap seals on their ailerons which is a great help in roll, but putting gap seals on the elevator and rudder can also help those control surfaces. Attached are some pictures of my Gap seals, I used light Polyfiber fabric and just attached it the way the book says to do a patch, its worked very well. I put the gap seal on the top of the elevator because on my Kolb, the horizontal stab on my Kolb is rigged in such a way that the air is always pushing it down ( Yours may vary depending on a lot of things ). On the rudder, I put the gap seal in an S pattern attaching to the left side of the Vertical tail and the Right side of the rudder. This means that no matter which way I push the rudder the gap seal stays in place. I would highly recommend that elevators also be done in the S configuration top to bottom also, having a gap seal lift up could create a very bad and dangerous condition ! Results were very positive, I have more elevator authority for heavy passengers and forward CG loadings, and my standard Kolb spring elevator trim system is effective over the entire CG range of my plane. On the tail, the effect of the increased authority can clearly be seen by how much I had to bend the trim tab to get the Kolb to fly straight in Cruise. The clear lexan tab was the standard Lexan trim tab bent to the standard 30 degree angle that Most MK III's require to fly straight before the gap seal was added to the rudder. After putting on the gap seals, I only needed about half as much bend in the rudder tab for the plane to fly straight at cruise as can be seen in the new aluminum tap, demonstrating that the rudder is now more effective and requiring less trim and deflection for the same cruise condition. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233998#233998 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ultralightmikekolbdetail12_20_2006_093_162.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ultralightkolbdetailgapseals04_29_2008_15_197.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ultralightkolbdetailgapseals04_29_2008_08_125.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ultralightkolbdetailgapseals04_29_2008_04_487.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ultralightkolbdetailgapseals04_29_2008_03_392.jpg ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: finishing touches gap seal From: "Nelson, Craig" <> I <> ha <> ve <> f <> in <> ished the rear of the gap seal made a mount for the vertical cared compass and Milow has not started the fire star Uncle craig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.