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Sat 03/14/09


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 05:08 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (Thomas R. Riddle)
     2. 06:43 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (John Hauck)
     3. 08:59 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (lucien)
     4. 07:48 PM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (lucien)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:08:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS
    From: "Thomas R. Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Out Allegro was pitched so that typically the 912UL ran around 4900 rpm during take-off run. In straight and level flight at full throttle at our typical density altitude it would top out at 5500 rpm and about 125 mph TAS. I expect your Titan will be in this speed range too. The faster the airplane the more difference you can expect between the take-off run rpm and Vh rpm. Our RANS has a fixed pitch (66x52) Tennessee climb prop so we get a lot higher take-off rpm and can easily run past redline during cruise if not paying attention, even at high density altitudes. Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 06:43:06 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS
    > Our RANS has a fixed pitch (66x52) Tennessee climb prop so we get a > lot higher take-off rpm and can easily run past redline during cruise > if not paying attention, even at high density altitudes. > > Thom in Buffalo Is there a reason for leaving that prop on the Rans? john h mkIII


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    Time: 08:59:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    Thom Riddle wrote: > Out Allegro was pitched so that typically the 912UL ran around 4900 > rpm during take-off run. In straight and level flight at full throttle > at our typical density altitude it would top out at 5500 rpm and about > 125 mph TAS. I expect your Titan will be in this speed range too. The > faster the airplane the more difference you can expect between the > take-off run rpm and Vh rpm. > > Our RANS has a fixed pitch (66x52) Tennessee climb prop so we get a > lot higher take-off rpm and can easily run past redline during cruise > if not paying attention, even at high density altitudes. > > Thom in Buffalo Eeeyikes, 4900 strikes me as really lugging it.... That can't be good for the motor..... Tho I guess if you have that wide of a speed range you probably don't have much choice ? My problem is our altitude so I need as much climb as I can possibly get for safety reasons, even with our mile plus long runways. With my FSII, I had that sucker turning 6300 on the takeoff roll and in climbout about 6400. The plane was actually trimmed to fly at about 70 but I kept it at 60 to 65 with about 5200 to 5400 cruise. It could have easily overspeeded in level flight, but with a climb rate of about 300 fpm max, I was happy to have that baby putting out max power in a Vy climb (which IIRC, was about 40 to 45mph?). At approx 377 power levels, that was ok with me ;). My current plane I'm perfectly content to cruise along at 90 or even 80 and don't care a great deal about going really fast. I think it's the UL'er/Kolber in me.... So I'll just have to see what I get in flight. Winds look low today so I may head out and have a go here in a bit. LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234554#234554


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    Time: 07:48:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    Just in case anyone's interested in a PIREP on the Warp Drive, I finally flew around the patch with the new WD. It really does work like a CS prop! I don't recall this affect as much on my FSII, but on the 912uls it's very noticeable. Everything in climb between 65 and 80 mph stayed between 5350 and 5420 rpm or thereabouts. The pleasant surprise was on downwind, when I noticed I was at almost 95mph at my usual throttle setting but was still only turning just under 5000. (normally 5100 with the IVO unless I add in more pitch). I'd usually just be breaking 85 if I held 5000. So the speed range is quite a bit wider than the IVO which is really nice. The performance is slightly better too, especially over a wider range of airspeeds where it maintains a good load on the motor and good thrust. The less rotating mass over the IVO is very noticeable, especially at idle which is much smoother now. Overall a very good upgrade so far. Still have to do more flying at cruise to see what I got there... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234623#234623




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