---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/15/09: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:00 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (Thom Riddle) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (Thom Riddle) 3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (John Hauck) 4. 07:15 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (Thom Riddle) 5. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (boyd) 6. 07:50 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (lucien) 7. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (Richard Girard) 8. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (John Hauck) 9. 08:41 AM - Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (Watkinsdw) 10. 08:52 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (lucien) 11. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (robert bean) 12. 09:04 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (Thom Riddle) 13. 09:21 AM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (lucien) 14. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (herb) 15. 09:54 AM - Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (Watkinsdw) 16. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (flycolt45@aol.com) 17. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (John Hauck) 18. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (loseyf@comcast.net) 19. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (herb) 20. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (loseyf@comcast.net) 21. 02:17 PM - Re: BRS CANISTER or VLS ?? Which one would suit Mark III Xtra?? (faisalasif) 22. 03:02 PM - Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (Watkinsdw) 23. 03:37 PM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (loseyf@comcast.net) 24. 04:15 PM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (lucien) 25. 05:39 PM - Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (Watkinsdw) 26. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (loseyf@comcast.net) 27. 05:58 PM - Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? (Watkinsdw) 28. 06:06 PM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (JetPilot) 29. 06:58 PM - Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS (lucien) 30. 09:50 PM - How many gallons per hour with VW Redrive (Nick Cassara) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:18 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "Thom Riddle" John, We plan to change the climb prop eventually for an adjustable pitch. We've been doing a lot of other refinements that were more critical but the prop change is getting closer to the top of the list. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234647#234647 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:14 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "Thom Riddle" Lucien, You are right about the speed range not leaving us much choice. That is the bane of most fixed pitch props on aircraft with a wide speed range. However, 4900 rpm is not really lugging the 912. At full throttle and 4900 rpm, the 912UL is producing about 92-93% of max continuous cruise power. Based on what I keep reading about the Warp taper tip, I'm inclined toward that to replace the Tennessee woody climb prop on our RANS. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234648#234648 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:02 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS > We plan to change the climb prop eventually for an adjustable pitch. We've been doing a lot of other refinements that were more critical but the prop change is getting closer to the top of the list. > > -------- > Thom Riddle Which Rans are you guys flying? Flying at extreme altitudes will pull my WOT rpm down to 5,000 rpm. This usually happens out West doing mountain flying. Propped correctly for 410 MSL, I'll be over propped by the time I reach West Texas. I've never flown my 912 powered airplane with anything except a taper tip Warp Drive. I did fly the 582 with the GSC Prop. It flew good, but was not the most durable prop I have ever flown with. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:28 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "Thom Riddle" John, S6-S 912UL taildragger. With the climb prop in the eastern lowlands it gets about 105 mph TAS at 5500 rpm in straight and level flight with some throttle left. During one of the rare clear sky days we had several weeks ago I took it to 10,500 msl and it would still pull over 5500 rpm but that was a cold day so it was probably only about 7,000' density altitude. It is beginning to warm up here with today forecast around 55F so pretty soon we'll have some close to standard days. I want to see at what DA this prop is optimized for before we switch it out. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234657#234657 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:37 AM PST US From: "boyd" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS John When I called and talked with Darrell when I ordered my warp drive... he told me that at my altitude he recommended the 68 inch standard tip for my 912 ul. So I guess I don't know what difference the taper tip would do for me. Interesting he also mentioned the standard tip was a better choice for sea planes. Boyd MKIIIC Utah. 4226 ft Msl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never flown my 912 powered airplane with anything except a taper tip Warp Drive. I did fly the 582 with the GSC Prop. It flew good, but was not the most durable prop I have ever flown with. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:39 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "lucien" Thom Riddle wrote: > John, > > S6-S 912UL taildragger. With the climb prop in the eastern lowlands it gets about 105 mph TAS at 5500 rpm in straight and level flight with some throttle left. During one of the rare clear sky days we had several weeks ago I took it to 10,500 msl and it would still pull over 5500 rpm but that was a cold day so it was probably only about 7,000' density altitude. > > It is beginning to warm up here with today forecast around 55F so pretty soon we'll have some close to standard days. I want to see at what DA this prop is optimized for before we switch it out. For what it's worth, good friend of mine back in TX (hmm.. I should call him and see if he'd consent to be part of the possible MV Posse) has an S6ES with the 80 horse 912. He runs a WD 2 blade, tho I don't recall if it's the taper tip. As for altitude, when I moved here to northern NM, I brought the FSII with me. The only thing I had to change out was the main jets, it still ran at the same rpms without having to adjust the prop. It also had the WD 68" 3 blade. I don't recall what I had to change pitch-wise on the titan when I flew it here from nebraska. Both planes, tho, experienced huge drops in climb of course. The FSII went down from about 800-900 fpm to about 300fpm. The titan now does about 900 fpm down from almost 1800fpm near sea level. Once in the FSII I made it past pattern altitude to almost 8500 MSL (a typical kicking-around-the-area altitude of 1500 to 2000 AGL), cliimb was down to about 100 fpm. Still pretty good given that the plane was a little heavy.... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234662#234662 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: Richard Girard Lucien, When you think about lugging the 912, remember, 1, this is a four stoke engine, much more robust when dealing with prop loading than a 2 stroke, and 2, Rotax designed the 912 series engines to be capable of using constant speed propellers. Just make sure you keep the CHT's below max. A new set of heads is over half the cost of the engine. Rick On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:50 AM, lucien wrote: > > > Thom Riddle wrote: > > John, > > > > S6-S 912UL taildragger. With the climb prop in the eastern lowlands it > gets about 105 mph TAS at 5500 rpm in straight and level flight with some > throttle left. During one of the rare clear sky days we had several weeks > ago I took it to 10,500 msl and it would still pull over 5500 rpm but that > was a cold day so it was probably only about 7,000' density altitude. > > > > It is beginning to warm up here with today forecast around 55F so pretty > soon we'll have some close to standard days. I want to see at what DA this > prop is optimized for before we switch it out. > > > For what it's worth, good friend of mine back in TX (hmm.. I should call > him and see if he'd consent to be part of the possible MV Posse) has an S6ES > with the 80 horse 912. He runs a WD 2 blade, tho I don't recall if it's the > taper tip. > > As for altitude, when I moved here to northern NM, I brought the FSII with > me. The only thing I had to change out was the main jets, it still ran at > the same rpms without having to adjust the prop. It also had the WD 68" 3 > blade. > > I don't recall what I had to change pitch-wise on the titan when I flew it > here from nebraska. > > Both planes, tho, experienced huge drops in climb of course. The FSII went > down from about 800-900 fpm to about 300fpm. The titan now does about 900 > fpm down from almost 1800fpm near sea level. > > Once in the FSII I made it past pattern altitude to almost 8500 MSL (a > typical kicking-around-the-area altitude of 1500 to 2000 AGL), cliimb was > down to about 100 fpm. Still pretty good given that the plane was a little > heavy.... > > LS > > -------- > LS > Titan II SS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234662#234662 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:41 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS > When I called and talked with Darrell when I ordered my warp drive... he > told me that at my altitude he recommended the 68 inch standard tip for my > 912 ul. So I guess I don't know what difference the taper tip would do > for > me. Interesting he also mentioned the standard tip was a better choice > for > sea planes. > > Boyd I tested both Warp Drive taper and straight blades on my FS. At that time I was still playing around with aerobatics. I didn't like the way the Warp Drive, either blade, felt, compared to the Jim Culver two blade fixed pitch wooden prop. When I tested the straight blades on the 582 on my mkIII, they did not give me the "perceived pitch change" I got with the tapered blades. The straight blades were "straight down the middle" right up to max rpm. Never flown with anything but tapered blades on the 912 engines. I've flown 70 and 72 inch props on my 912's. The 72 climbs better and may cruise a little better, but is much noisier. That is why I went back to a 70 when I changed props last. It is a little quieter. I have been playing around with going back to a 72 for the Alaska flight. It gives me a little more performance, which might make a difference if I make a mistake and get myself into a situation I don't want to be in. I did this on my first flight to Alaska with the 80 horse. That is why I was so bent on getting a 100 horse for the next flight to Alaska. It does make a difference when the situation gets tight. After all the hours with the taper tip blades, it would be interesting to see what kind of perception I got with staight blades. Getting closer to MV every day. I'm ready!!! john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:31 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: "Watkinsdw" Nice to hear there will be another Kolb in the area. I'm shopping for one, preferring an already assembled MK3X, or earlier model if it has a 912 to keep at Pompano airport. Haven't seen the right one yet by googling, but will be looking at Sun and Fun. Wish me luck! Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234672#234672 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "lucien" aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com wrote: > Lucien, When you think about lugging the 912, remember, 1, this is a four stoke engine, much more robust when dealing with prop loading than a 2 stroke, and 2, Rotax designed the 912 series engines to be capable of using constant speed propellers. Just make sure you keep the CHT's below max. A new set of heads is over half the cost of the engine. > > Rick > Quite true.... And I tell you what, if I was rich and it was legal for me to do it, I'd go ahead and fit a CS prop. Yeah, it's more complexity, weight etc., but they really make life easy as far as prop loading and etc. What I try to do on my motor in the meantime is what John suggests, which is to keep it spun up as much as possible. 5400 rpm for takeoff and 5000 minimum at cruise. The sweet spot seems to be about 5080 rpm, or it was with the IVO. If I ever get the weather again, I still need to go out with the WD fitted and see where th sweet spot is. I had heard in the past about when the flight schools first started using the 912's they weren't used to the higher rpm regimes and were trying to run the motor like the continentals and lycomings lugging them at low RPMs. Apparently, the motors were coming down with major problems well before TBO. Once the instructors got trained on the proper rpm's for the 912, all that cleared up and they're going as long as 3000 hours out in the field. As far as major repairs, truth is it looks to me like something like repairing from an overheating event or etc. would cost in the neighborhood of a new motor. With those parts prices, if I had to do something major I'd probably be better off buying new and not doing whatever broke the thing again ;). Fingers crossed that nothing ever happens to this one as I haven't saved up replacement cost yet. Been too busy buying props ;). LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234676#234676 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:54 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? check barnstormers. There is a MkIII /912 for cheap. BB do not archive On 15, Mar 2009, at 11:41 AM, Watkinsdw wrote: > > > Nice to hear there will be another Kolb in the area. I'm shopping > for one, preferring an already assembled MK3X, or earlier model if > it has a 912 to keep at Pompano airport. > Haven't seen the right one yet by googling, but will be looking at > Sun and Fun. Wish me luck! > Dave > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234672#234672 > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:06 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "Thom Riddle" Lucien, Several years ago, I owned a Titan Tornado II (small back seat) with the short 20' wing. It had 912UL and the GSC mechanical in-flight adjustable prop. Great combination. I would set it for about 5600 rpm for take-off and climb at Vy and adjust it to an economical and quiet relatively low rpm full throttle cruise (per Rotax recommended procedure). I still have my medical but plan to let it expire this year so I will no longer be able to use a in-flight adjustable prop. That said, a friend (local Titan dealer) had one of his Tornados registered as E-LSA before the deadline WITH the IVO in-flight adjustable prop. The DAR was satisfied with a placard by the prop control that said something to the effect that Sport Pilots must not make any pitch changes during flight. As we all know, that would not have passed muster in some FSDOs. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234679#234679 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:06 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "lucien" Thom Riddle wrote: > Lucien, > > Several years ago, I owned a Titan Tornado II (small back seat) with the short 20' wing. It had 912UL and the GSC mechanical in-flight adjustable prop. Great combination. I would set it for about 5600 rpm for take-off and climb at Vy and adjust it to an economical and quiet relatively low rpm full throttle cruise (per Rotax recommended procedure). > > I still have my medical but plan to let it expire this year so I will no longer be able to use a in-flight adjustable prop. That said, a friend (local Titan dealer) had one of his Tornados registered as E-LSA before the deadline WITH the IVO in-flight adjustable prop. The DAR was satisfied with a placard by the prop control that said something to the effect that Sport Pilots must not make any pitch changes during flight. > > As we all know, that would not have passed muster in some FSDOs. > > do not archive Well as I've reported in the past, my medical finally went bye-bye at the ripe old age of 37 and looks like I'll never see it again in this life. Even if I thought I could get all the squawks covered, I don't dare ever set foot in an AME's office again anyway lest they try to pin me on something else. The FnAA just slap doesn't want me in the air in a big airplane and I"m only too happy to oblige. Shame that even my complex endorsement that I got years ago in a turbo Arrow couldn't be used under the Sport Pilot rule.... Oh well.... Our group of no-medical folks is continuing to expand, but fortunately our options for flight are still pretty good. So letting it go is by no means the end of one's flying career. But judging from how my WD performs, I think the "poor mans" CS behavior of it will still cover the speed envelope of our light a/c. The Kolb is in even better shape as it's speed envelope is less wide due to its design and mission. Last night I was amazed at how I could go back and forth between 80 and 65mph in a full throttle climb and have the RPM's vary by only about 50 to 60 rpm. 95mph at less than half throttle and 4950 rpm or so was a nice surprise as well. do not archive LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234684#234684 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:41 AM PST US From: herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? My info, sketchy as it is,.says that the early 80 horse 912 engine had problems ...and would cost a bunch to bring up to current AD's.. Anyone have the skinny...Herb At 10:54 AM 3/15/2009, you wrote: > >check barnstormers. There is a MkIII /912 for cheap. >BB >do not archive > >On 15, Mar 2009, at 11:41 AM, Watkinsdw wrote: > >> >> >>Nice to hear there will be another Kolb in the area. I'm shopping >>for one, preferring an already assembled MK3X, or earlier model if >>it has a 912 to keep at Pompano airport. >>Haven't seen the right one yet by googling, but will be looking at >>Sun and Fun. Wish me luck! >>Dave >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234672#234672 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: "Watkinsdw" Thanks for the tip. It resides in Rochester, NY. I'm in sunny south Florida. I spoke with the seller, and he seems like a good guy. However, you're right about the need for upgrades on the 912, and he says it needs sails, too. It currently has stits(sp?) covering, and he says there's some hangar rash and a poor paint job. There's also a bit of frame repair needed, which he says is minimal. It's not currently flyable, so I'm inclined to pass on it. Thanks again! dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234694#234694 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: flycolt45@aol.com Dave (ol' buddy : ), If you can afford to house a plane at Pompano - then you ought to be looking for a well finished, fly away trophy winniing?Kolb.? I also live in that area and fly out of LNA (Lantana) but the cost of hanger space is just too salty!? If you have a place there to keep a Kolb - then you have the hardest part of your mission?completed. Jim PA/ SE FL do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Watkinsdw Sent: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:53 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? Thanks for the tip. It resides in Rochester, NY. I'm in sunny south Florida. I spoke with the seller, and he seems like a good guy. However, you're right about the need for upgrades on the 912, and he says it needs sails, too. It currently has stits(sp?) covering, and he says there's some hangar rash and a poor paint job. There's also a bit of frame repair needed, which he says is minimal. It's not currently flyable, so I'm inclined to pass on it. Thanks again! dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234694#234694 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:11:44 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? > My info, sketchy as it is,.says that the early 80 horse 912 engine > had problems ...and would cost a bunch to bring up to current AD's.. > Anyone have the skinny...Herb Basically, the same engine today as it was before I bought my first 912 in 1993. Like most new products on the market today, user testing detected a few things that needed changing, i.e., rocker arms and there was a recall on alternator stators. Rotax picked up the tab on most all the updates, right on through current editions of the 912UL, 912ULS, and 914. The stator update was not an absolute necessity, as far as I was concerned. I already had over 800 hours on my 912 when it came out. It was a precaution because of a possibility of fire due to type insulation used. I never heard of anyone experiencing a fire. The 912ULS, early ones like mine, greatly benefited from the updated starter and slip clutch. That one was 600.00, but well worth it. Newer 912ULS's were equipped with these updates. A lot of stuff has changed on these engines since 1993, but we were still able to put a lot of hours on them configured the way they were back then. I'm sure there are some 912's out there that never had a thing done to them since day one. The 912 on Bruce Chesnet's Bucaneer, the one he got off Ebay that sits in the hanger at London, is a prime example. ;-) john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: loseyf@comcast.net I believe Michael Bigelow made reference he is considering selling his...Miami based. You may wish to check with him directly to be sure. ------Original Message------ From: Watkinsdw Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Mar 15, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? Nice to hear there will be another Kolb in the area. I'm shopping for one, preferring an already assembled MK3X, or earlier model if it has a 912 to keep at Pompano airport. Haven't seen the right one yet by googling, but will be looking at Sun and Fun. Wish me luck! Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234672#234672 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:29 AM PST US From: herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? Its gone...not to me however...Herb do not archive At 12:09 PM 3/15/2009, you wrote: > > > > My info, sketchy as it is,.says that the early 80 horse 912 engine >>had problems ...and would cost a bunch to bring up to current >>AD's.. Anyone have the skinny...Herb > > >Basically, the same engine today as it was before I bought my first >912 in 1993. > >Like most new products on the market today, user testing detected a >few things that needed changing, i.e., rocker arms and there was a >recall on alternator stators. Rotax picked up the tab on most all >the updates, right on through current editions of the 912UL, 912ULS, and 914. > >The stator update was not an absolute necessity, as far as I was >concerned. I already had over 800 hours on my 912 when it came >out. It was a precaution because of a possibility of fire due to >type insulation used. I never heard of anyone experiencing a fire. > >The 912ULS, early ones like mine, greatly benefited from the updated >starter and slip clutch. That one was 600.00, but well worth >it. Newer 912ULS's were equipped with these updates. > >A lot of stuff has changed on these engines since 1993, but we were >still able to put a lot of hours on them configured the way they >were back then. > >I'm sure there are some 912's out there that never had a thing done >to them since day one. The 912 on Bruce Chesnet's Bucaneer, the one >he got off Ebay that sits in the hanger at London, is a prime example. ;-) > >john h >mkIII > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: loseyf@comcast.net Dave are a member of the Pompano EAA? I recently joined but have been traveling unable to make a meeting yet. I am about to take the plunge on a kit.....gulp! ------Original Message------ From: Watkinsdw Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Mar 15, 2009 12:53 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? Thanks for the tip. It resides in Rochester, NY. I'm in sunny south Florida. I spoke with the seller, and he seems like a good guy. However, you're right about the need for upgrades on the 912, and he says it needs sails, too. It currently has stits(sp?) covering, and he says there's some hangar rash and a poor paint job. There's also a bit of frame repair needed, which he says is minimal. It's not currently flyable, so I'm inclined to pass on it. Thanks again! dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234694#234694 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:00 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: BRS CANISTER or VLS ?? Which one would suit Mark III Xtra?? From: "faisalasif" Thanks Mike, Beautiful bird you have there.... Thanks for taking time to post such excellent pictures. faisal. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234732#234732 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:54 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: "Watkinsdw" Hey, you guys and gals, This is a great conversation, thanks! First of all, the hangaring issue at PMP is indeed an obstacle. A typical hangar is $625/month, however, I'm in a flying club that has two Piper Archers based there, and we have a 1/2 "T-hangar" that's under-utilized. I can store the Kolb there, folded up. Thanks to the person who supplied the info on the upgrades to the 912. ...and no, I'm not in the Pompano EAA. I may join later, but right now my monthly dues in the club and other flying related dues keep it from being my priority. Did I understand the post about the Kolb in Miami correctly, that it has been sold? If not, how do I contact the person? Thanks again, everyone! Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234738#234738 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: loseyf@comcast.net Hello Dave, This is Fran in Boca Raton. Michael's email is orcabonita@hotmail.com. To my knowledge it is not sold, I would send him an email directly. Fran Losey Fran.losey@alber.com ------Original Message------ From: Watkinsdw Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Mar 15, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? Hey, you guys and gals, This is a great conversation, thanks! First of all, the hangaring issue at PMP is indeed an obstacle. A typical hangar is $625/month, however, I'm in a flying club that has two Piper Archers based there, and we have a 1/2 "T-hangar" that's under-utilized. I can store the Kolb there, folded up. Thanks to the person who supplied the info on the upgrades to the 912. ....and no, I'm not in the Pompano EAA. I may join later, but right now my monthly dues in the club and other flying related dues keep it from being my priority. Did I understand the post about the Kolb in Miami correctly, that it has been sold? If not, how do I contact the person? Thanks again, everyone! Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234738#234738 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "lucien" Maybe this should go to another thread but... The NM Posse to MV potentially increased by 1 today. If ya'll dont mind another titan, the other titan, a II S, on our field may be an additional member. I spoke to his owner this morning, as he has it down for its annual and he expressed interest in going to MV. Guess I better put in for my vacation ASAP.... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234748#234748 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: "Watkinsdw" Thanks, Fran, I'll email him tonight! dave What are you flying in Boca? I live in Deerfield. d. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234752#234752 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: loseyf@comcast.net I used to fly a PA-28 201RT (84 Arrow IV TC) but was way too expensive for a hobby.... I am without air transportation at this time, which is why I am considering building the Kolb. I do miss flying greatly, and hope this potential project will stop the withdrawals... Fran ------Original Message------ From: Watkinsdw Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Mar 15, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? Thanks, Fran, I'll email him tonight! dave What are you flying in Boca? I live in Deerfield. d. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234752#234752 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:12 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any KOLBs in South Florida? From: "Watkinsdw" I understand, Fran. Hey, if you're interested in getting access to a couple of nice Archers, you might consider joining our club at PMP. Let me know and I'll send details. I'm signing off now, but will check in tomorrow. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234755#234755 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "JetPilot" Your first flight sounds very promising ! Many of the new LSA airplanes with the 912 S and fixed pitch prop take off very close to 5000 RPM, its very normal for the engine, it just does not develop that last few HP. Guys that fly Air Cams, including Phil Lockwood I was talking to one year, cruise the with both the 912-S with less than half power with no problems. The 912 series has undergone a bunch of changes over the years, many of the early problems don't happen anymore. I cruise at 4200 RPM and 70 MPH in my Kolb when solo, and around 4300 with my wife, it feels and flys great, using just a bit over 3 GPH. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234756#234756 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:34 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Static rpm - warp drive/912ULS From: "lucien" JetPilot wrote: > Your first flight sounds very promising ! Many of the new LSA airplanes with the 912 S and fixed pitch prop take off very close to 5000 RPM, its very normal for the engine, it just does not develop that last few HP. Guys that fly Air Cams, including Phil Lockwood I was talking to one year, cruise the with both the 912-S with less than half power with no problems. The 912 series has undergone a bunch of changes over the years, many of the early problems don't happen anymore. I cruise at 4200 RPM and 70 MPH in my Kolb when solo, and around 4300 with my wife, it feels and flys great, using just a bit over 3 GPH. > > Mike Well when I had the IVO I at one point had it set to about 5000 to 5100 on climbout (this was when I was experimenting and starting to discover that it was a little overpropped) and it was a pretty anemic climbout of about 500fpm. At 5400, I do almost twice that at nearly 1000fpm. So the climb is significantly better for me when spun up. I was doing around 1000fpm with the WD last night also, so the performance there is similar. I think with the warp drive I'll be able to get away with this or perhaps another 1/2 degree of pitch added back in. I'll just have to see how it does in cruise set the way it is. Also my speed range really isn't that wide. At this altitude, I hit a wall at 100mph indicated pretty much. I climb at anywhere from 65 to 80 depending on the conditions so top speed is only 20mph away. So I'm hoping I can probably get away with a fairly flat setting, as climb is paramount for me up here in the stratosphere.... And if I can still cruise at 90 to 95 at 5000 rpm I'll be a happy camper as that was what I was doing before with the IVO. But I'm less concerned about that, I happily cruise around at 80 if I have nowhere to go and am just sightseeing. LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234765#234765 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:16 PM PST US From: "Nick Cassara" Subject: Kolb-List: How many gallons per hour with VW Redrive Rick, and any other VW redrives, How many gallons per hour do burn with your VW Redrive. I read about your creation in the archives, but I did not see anything regarding GPH and what type of fuel do use? I am try to narrow engine choices. that I can afford. 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