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1. 05:35 AM - AOA indicator (Mike Welch)
2. 05:37 AM - Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft (N111KX (Kip))
3. 05:37 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for X country (Thom Riddle)
4. 06:03 AM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (grantr)
5. 09:48 AM - Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft (herb)
6. 09:48 AM - =?windows-1256?Q?How_long_i?= =?windows-1256?Q?s_a_folded?= =?windows-1256?Q?_mark_111_?= =?windows-1256?Q?classic=3F=FE? (Brian Steiner)
7. 09:49 AM - Florida use tax update (Richard Girard)
8. 09:52 AM - Re: AOA indicator (herb)
9. 09:54 AM - rivets (william sullivan)
10. 10:07 AM - Re: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation (Jean PILLAUDIN)
11. 10:13 AM - Re: rivets (John Hauck)
12. 10:23 AM - Re: rivets (herb)
13. 10:23 AM - Re: Kolb List- Rivets (william sullivan)
14. 10:26 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 03/26/09 (Tobi Hoff)
15. 10:42 AM - Re: AOA indicator (boyd)
16. 10:47 AM - Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft (Charlie England)
17. 10:53 AM - Re: rivets (John Hauck)
18. 10:58 AM - Re: AOA indicator (John Hauck)
19. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 03/26/09 (John Hauck)
20. 11:14 AM - Re: rivets (herb)
21. 11:21 AM - Re: AOA indicator (herb)
22. 11:48 AM - Re: rivets (John Hauck)
23. 12:03 PM - Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft (loseyf@comcast.net)
24. 12:23 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 03/26/09 (grantr)
25. 12:26 PM - air scoop on HKS (Larry Cottrell)
26. 12:48 PM - Re: air scoop on HKS (John Hauck)
27. 12:48 PM - Re: air scoop on HKS (herb)
28. 12:56 PM - Re: air scoop on HKS (Larry Cottrell)
29. 02:34 PM - Re: rivets (Jack B. Hart)
30. 03:18 PM - Re: rivets (Dana Hague)
31. 03:43 PM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (cristalclear13)
32. 04:09 PM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (lucien)
33. 04:49 PM - Re: rivets (boyd)
34. 07:19 PM - Re: air scoop on HKS (ces308)
35. 10:02 PM - I'm On My Way! (Yet Still At Home.) (TheWanderingWench)
36. 10:47 PM - Whoops - sent the wrong URL (TheWanderingWench)
37. 10:49 PM - Whoops - sent the wrong URL in my last post (TheWanderingWench)
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Kolb people=2C
A guy that makes these posted this link on a different group site. I thi
nk it may get more exposure on this site=2C for those that are interested.
Some pilots feel AOA is a better stall indicator than airspeed. Here's t
he link:
http://www.pipcom.com/~cowcam/AOAr.htm
Mike Welch
MkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft |
Yes, it seems that we went through this a couple years ago. It ended up with a
Florida official saying is was only meant for Florida residents IIRC.
Maybe they are really "going for it" now... [Rolling Eyes]
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Kip
Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta
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| Subject: | Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for X country |
Some instructors erroneously teach (preach) that you must have current sectionals
and current AFD in the airplane but it just isn't true.
Dana's quotation from the FARs is correct, of course. However, having a current
sectional may or may not satisfy that requirement nor an inspector, because the
sectional may not contain all the pertinent information needed for a particular
flight. It does not contain NOTAMS for your intended destination or alternates,
for example.
I've been ramp checked only once, enroute to southern California from Buffalo in
Hays, KS after a night IFR flight. All the FAA inspector wanted to see were
the AR(r)OW documents. He was pleasant and easily satisfied. Your experience may
vary.
We keep a current local sectional in our airplane and rarely cross its borders.
About once a year we update our GPS, sometimes more often.
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Buffalo, NY
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| Subject: | Re: Flying videos thermals! |
> Hey, I also saw your snow video! That was so funny. You must have been really
excited when filming it.
Yep giddy as a school girl on a playground :D My Wife and i did have a blast running
around in it and throwing snow balls. Someone down the road made a snow
man. It was nice to see the snow and it was nice to see it go away.
The 1st few times I flew in mid day conditions solo it scared the crap out of me.
Actually on my 2nd solo flight i encountered some rough air and man that made
me nervous. I was literally shaking. Now I get a tad nervous in the real
rough bumps but nothing like before. The more comfortable you become with the
bumpy air the more you will enjoy flying in it as it doesn't bother you as much.
Nothing beats a late afternoon flight or early morning one though. Thats like
sitting in a lounge chair in the sky.
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| Subject: | Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft |
Obviously un constutional...!! But by the
time one gets a refund...the damage could already be done...
We had a law in Ky where the state could
remove a percentage of one savings account each
year...automatically... My first year
here.....It was declared unconstutional and I
was told that I could apply for a refund.... I
did not...just decided to get even!! :-)
Does anyone remember the the Founding
Documents?? :-) As Ruth Bader Ginsburg has
said..."they are living and breathing
documents" . Meaning that they can
be destroyed....on a whim.. to make us more
compatible with North Korea and Venezuela...?? Herb
Do not archive....
At 10:32 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote:
> Yes, I recall seeing that Florida levied a 6%
> tax on people that flew their airplanes and
> landed at a Florida airport (including visiting
> aircraft attending air shows). Maybe it was on this list, about 2 years
back.
> Stinkin' freaking tax thieves.
>
> Here's how it worked: (let's say you landed
> your new TBM turboprop at S & F)
> If they sent you a tax bill, and you thought
> you were immune just because you lived in
> another state...you're wrong!! So, you'd say
> "Screw 'em, I'll just not go back into
> Florida!" Hold on, it's not that easy!! (BTW,
> that's what I thought when California did that
> to me, and billed me after I moved out of state)
>
> Remember, you're talking about "the
> government". THEY (the thieves) make the
> rules!! They just look into your personal
> records for your social security number, and
> put a TAX LIEN on you. This tax lien is
> immediately recorded with all three credit
> bureaus. You won't qualify to buy anything,
> until that lien is cleared!! (ask me how I know)
>
> To read that this thievery is being repealed
> is comforting. It's about time!! Now, how
> about a re-vote on the pork-u-lous bill??
>
>Mike Welch
>
>
> > Hey folks,
> > If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
> > attending Sun & Fun, you might want to be aware of the follow
> > regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft. Anyone
> > up on this?
> > jerb
> >
> > <http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2009/090326florida.html>
>
>
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Thanks for all the help. He decided to take a trip out my way and check it out
before finding a trailer. I am relieved that he will not be pulling a trailer
a long distance it without seeing it first.
Brian
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| Subject: | Florida use tax update |
Form the AOPA as of this morning:
Effort to repeal Florida use tax clears first hurdle
Bills aimed at removing the use tax on visiting out-of-state aircraft in
Florida sailed through committee with unanimous support in the state
legislature March 25. =93Passing this exemption could transform the message
Florida is sending to the aviation community,=94 said Greg Pecoraro, AOPA v
ice
president of airports and state advocacy. =93Now, pilots who might otherwis
e
come to Florida for maintenance, business, and tourism are avoiding the
state altogether. Removing the threat of a hefty tax on visitors will
welcome pilots=97and revenue=97back into the state.
Rick
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: AOA indicator |
Mike
I haven't looked through all of my email this
morning...taking them as they come....that said...
I like the simplicity of the angle of attack
indicator on the linked page... except...the
bracket and pickup head are on single
bolts...meaning that with temp; they could
pivot...causing incorrect indications... simple
to fix... use single bolt while adjusting and
then go with double ones.... Herb
At 07:33 AM 3/27/2009, you wrote:
>Kolb people,
>
> A guy that makes these posted this link on a
> different group site. I think it may get more
> exposure on this site, for those that are interested.
> Some pilots feel AOA is a better stall
> indicator than airspeed. Here's the link:
>
><http://www.pipcom.com/~cowcam/AOAr.htm>http://www.pipcom.com/~cowcam/AOAr.
htm
>
>Mike Welch
>MkIII
>
>
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- I noticed that the rivets holding the outer end of the drag strut and d
rag strut brackets apparently are regular steel rivets- not stainless steel
.- The wings are about 1986 vintage.- Is this normal, or should they be
changed to stainless?- This is on an original Firestar.- I noticed rus
t on the heads, and a magnet sticks firmly to them.
-
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----------------------- Bill
Sullivan
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----------------------- Winds
or Locks, Ct.
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----------------------- FS 44
7
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation |
Thank's a lot John, I need to understand all of your sentences, i need time.
I'll reply if something is not clear in my brain =8;O)
Have a good Week-end.
Jean
2009/3/26 John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Jean:
>
> I would use a zig-zag fold of about 10-12" to take up the extra length of
> the bridal, what you refer to as a security belt. Secure the fold with a
> couple nylon tie wraps. Then secure the folded section to a tube inside the
> gap seal. The end of the bridal, I would secure the loop aroung the 2" root
> tube of the airframe behind your head. That is where I attached my bridal
> on my Ultrastar.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jean PILLAUDIN <jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
>
> Pffff
>
> The pictures!
>
> 2009/3/26 Jean PILLAUDIN <jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi Kolbers,
>>
>> I read a lot about chute here, don't want to launch again the debat...I
>> know that at the Kolb's begining pilot save their life with hand launched
>> chute.
>>
>> I have a question regarding the hand launch rescue chute installation on
>> my Kolb Ultrastar. I get a chute from ParaDelta Italia, spec are:
>>
>> Max weight: 250kilos
>> Max opened speed: 170 km/h
>> Weight 5kilos
>>
>> See the drawing NumberOne.jpg : the chute is on a ventrally position on my
>> thighs, It is fixed to my harness.
>>
>> The security belt is too long, I do put it on the top near the karabiner
>> (see NumberThree.jpg) ?
>>
>> The chute must be removable easily, what is the kind of fixation do i use?
>>
>> Bests Regards
>>
>> Jean PILLAUDIN
>> --
>> Jean
>>
>> Q' importe le frelon pourvu qu'on ai l'ivresse!
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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>
> Q' importe le frelon pourvu qu'on ai l'ivresse!
>
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The original FS kits shipped with carbon steel pop rivets.
My 1986 FS Kit was shipped with carbon steel, but I opted to spend a little
more money and use SS.
Yes, that was normal 23 years ago.
You'll have to be the judge of whether or not they are still serviceable.
Wing lift strut fittings were also riveted with carbon steel rivets. No do
ubt in my mind what I would do with them after all these years.
john h
mkIII
I noticed that the rivets holding the outer end of the drag strut
and drag strut brackets apparently are regular steel rivets- not stainless
steel. The wings are about 1986 vintage. Is this normal, or should they
be changed to stainless? This is on an original Firestar. I noticed rust
on the heads, and a magnet sticks firmly to them.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
FS 447
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William
I had a vintage Kolb Ultrastar some years ago. I bought it from a
buddy who had stalled it in... It needed a complete uncovering and
some rebuilding...
If I am not mistaken...Steel rivets were the norm for many years
on the early Kolb models. ? .... that said....my impression is
that they do very well.....little corrosion,,,no signs of the dreaded
galvanic effect that is offered by some.. I would have no worries
flying a Kolb built with them...
I notice , in other applications, that steel rivets seem to have
less spring back ...Herb
At 11:54 AM 3/27/2009, you wrote:
> I noticed that the rivets holding the outer end of the drag strut
> and drag strut brackets apparently are regular steel rivets- not
> stainless steel. The wings are about 1986 vintage. Is this
> normal, or should they be changed to stainless? This is on an
> original Firestar. I noticed rust on the heads, and a magnet
> sticks firmly to them.
>
> Bill Sullivan
> Windsor Locks, Ct.
> FS 447
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb List- Rivets |
- Thanks, John.- I am going to change them.- The rusty heads were bot
hering me- what you can't see can hurt you.
-
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Bill Sullivan
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Windsor Locks, Ct.
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FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 03/26/09 |
Could I please be removed from the Kolb-List Digest List? I no longer
need to receive these e mails.
Thank you,
Jeffery Hoff
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:20 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (pj.ladd)
2. 06:14 AM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (ropermike)
3. 09:42 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (Dana Hague)
4. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Flying videos thermals! (Dana Hague)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (John Hauck)
6. 10:08 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 10:21 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country (lucien)
8. 10:33 AM - Dates for M.V. (frank.goodnight)
9. 11:09 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (pj.ladd)
10. 11:34 AM - Re: Dates for M.V. (John Hauck)
11. 11:52 AM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (grantr)
12. 12:57 PM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (cristalclear13)
13. 01:09 PM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (lucien)
14. 02:11 PM - How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (Brian
Steiner)
15. 02:16 PM - Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
(Jean PILLAUDIN)
16. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Flying videos thermals! (Jack B. Hart)
17. 02:21 PM - Re: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
(Jean PILLAUDIN)
18. 02:35 PM - Re: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
(John Hauck)
19. 02:39 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
(ces308)
20. 02:41 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (Jim
Kmet)
21. 03:40 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
(gliderx5@comcast.net<mailto:gliderx5@comcast.net>)
22. 05:24 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (Robert
Laird)
23. 05:45 PM - Used CHT /EGT wanted (Jim Kmet)
24. 07:32 PM - Florida may tax recently purchased visiting
aircraft (jerb)
25. 07:37 PM - Florida may tax recently purchased visiting
aircraft (jerb)
26. 08:38 PM - Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting
aircraft (Mike Welch)
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Time: 05:20:00 AM PST US
From: "pj.ladd"
<pj.ladd@btinternet.com<mailto:pj.ladd@btinternet.com>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country?
A person takes a mighty big gamble flying cross-country with old
charts.
Hi All,
in the UK it is illegal to fly without an up to date chart. Most
people
fly with one, not necessarily THAT up to date but i have never heard
of
anyone being checked.
Pat
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Time: 06:14:13 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "ropermike"
<ropermike2002@yahoo.com<mailto:ropermike2002@yahoo.com>>
I purchased my MK II in south Ms and flew it there for 6 months before
bringing
it home to West Texas. After unloading the plane in the middle of the
summer
afternoon, I couldnt resist taking it for a spin. I was shocked as it
nearly beat
me to death and my aileron control was very sluggish at times! It
didnt take
me long to get back on the ground! I found out pretty quick why they
have the
yearly world championship hang gliding competition 20 miles north in
Big Springs,
Texas......I am a early morning/ late evening flyer as I like to fly
at
1000' agl or lower on my pleasure missions. I try to go up on short
flights in
the midday thermals every now and then just to train myself and get
used to
the rough air but I am still very uncomfortable. Until a few years
ago, I had
owned and flown a Piper Pacer for 10 years and never remember it being
that rough,
but then again, most of my flights with the Pacer was climbing up high
and
going somewhere.
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losing!...Mike Hillger
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Time: 09:42:07 AM PST US
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net<mailto:d-m-hague@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country?
At 08:18 AM 3/26/2009, pj.ladd wrote:
>
>in the UK it is illegal to fly without an up to date chart. Most
people
>fly with one, not necessarily THAT up to date but i have never heard
of
>anyone being checked.
To the best of my knowledge there is no US regulation requiring a
chart to
be carried.
Instead we simply have this:
=A7 91.103 Preflight action.
Each pilot in command shall, before beginning a flight, become
familiar
with all available information concerning that flight. This
information
must include=97
(a) For a flight under IFR or a flight not in the vicinity of an
airport,
weather reports and forecasts, fuel requirements, alternatives
available if
the planned flight cannot be completed, and any known traffic delays
of
which the pilot in command has been advised by ATC;
(b) For any flight, runway lengths at airports of intended use, and
the
following takeoff and landing distance information:
(1) For civil aircraft for which an approved Airplane or Rotorcraft
Flight
Manual containing takeoff and landing distance data is required, the
takeoff and landing distance data contained therein; and
(2) For civil aircraft other than those specified in paragraph (b)(1)
of
this section, other reliable information appropriate to the aircraft,
relating to aircraft performance under expected values of airport
elevation
and runway slope, aircraft gross weight, and wind and temperature.
-Dana
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From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net<mailto:d-m-hague@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
At 09:13 AM 3/26/2009, ropermike wrote:
>...rough air but I am still very uncomfortable. Until a few years
ago, I
>had owned and flown a Piper Pacer for 10 years and never remember it
being
>that rough, but then again, most of my flights with the Pacer was
climbing
>up high and going somewhere...
Your Pacer had short wings and a much higher wing loading than a Kolb.
-Dana
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Time: 09:57:21 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com<mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country?
I tried to find the reg, but alas, I failed. Maybe some of the more
informed pilots on the Kolb List can pull up this info.
John W was the one who told me about sectionals and GPS's.
He said if your sectional was current, the Jeppesen Data Base in your
GPS did not have to be current.
If your GPS was current, you were not required to have a current
sectional.
However, don't get ramp checked with only an expired sectional or only
an expired Jeppesen Data Base in your GPS, or both.
John W was an excellent source of flying info. He should have been.
He
lived and worked with it right out of high school, as an Army Aviator,
for nearly 40 years to the day he died. I have no reason to disagree
with his info.
john h
mkIII
To the best of my knowledge there is no US regulation requiring a
chart to be carried.
-Dana
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Time: 10:08:54 AM PST US
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen"
<NeilsenRM@comcast.net<mailto:NeilsenRM@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country?
Dana
It would be nice if part 91.103 said up to date chart. What is says is
that you need "all available information" which means no matter what
all
information you may have gathered you are likely to have missed
something they could cite you for missing.
I have said this before but If you are a EAA member there is a free
flight planning service that is really worth doing. If your not a
member
it may still be well worth using it. You get the latest charts in knee
board format and notams for your route of flight. This is especially
useful if you don't have time to order the latest charts before a
flight. It can also be found at areoplanner.com
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
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From: Dana Hague
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country?
At 08:18 AM 3/26/2009, pj.ladd wrote:
in the UK it is illegal to fly without an up to date chart. Most
people fly with one, not necessarily THAT up to date but i have never
heard of anyone being checked.
To the best of my knowledge there is no US regulation requiring a
chart to be carried.
Instead we simply have this:
=A7 91.103 Preflight action.
Each pilot in command shall, before beginning a flight, become
familiar with all available information concerning that flight. This
information must include-
(a) For a flight under IFR or a flight not in the vicinity of an
airport, weather reports and forecasts, fuel requirements,
alternatives
available if the planned flight cannot be completed, and any known
traffic delays of which the pilot in command has been advised by ATC;
(b) For any flight, runway lengths at airports of intended use,
and
the following takeoff and landing distance information:
(1) For civil aircraft for which an approved Airplane or
Rotorcraft
Flight Manual containing takeoff and landing distance data is
required,
the takeoff and landing distance data contained therein; and
(2) For civil aircraft other than those specified in paragraph
(b)(1) of this section, other reliable information appropriate to the
aircraft, relating to aircraft performance under expected values of
airport elevation and runway slope, aircraft gross weight, and wind
and
temperature.
-Dana
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Time: 10:21:01 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country
From: "lucien"
<lstavenhagen@hotmail.com<mailto:lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>>
Hmm... It sounds to me like Dana is right. There's no specific reg
that says you
must carry charts (except for 91.503, but that applies only to big
iron jets
and such). There's just the requirement that you get "all available
information".
Looks like this can be a De Facto requirement that you have a chart,
i.e. you can
get busted under 91.103 if there's a violation and they want to pin
you with
that. But that appears to be it.
I'll be darned... I could have sworn it was a hard/fast
requirement.....
LS
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Time: 10:33:00 AM PST US
From: "frank.goodnight"
<frank.goodnight@att.net<mailto:frank.goodnight@att.net>>
Subject: Kolb-List: Dates for M.V.
Would someone please post the dates for M.V.
I plan to attend but don't know when to be there.
Frank Goodnight
FireStar2
HKS 65 hrs.
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Time: 11:09:11 AM PST US
From: "pj.ladd"
<pj.ladd@btinternet.com<mailto:pj.ladd@btinternet.com>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country?
Instead we simply have this:
=A7 91.103 Preflight action..
Hi Dana. Thats enough to be going on with. I am sure that we have
something similar but the way it actually works is kick the tyres (or
tires) and pull the string.
Cheers
Pat
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Time: 11:34:26 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com<mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dates for M.V.
> Would someone please post the dates for M.V.
> I plan to attend but don't know when to be there.
>
> Frank Goodnight
Here's what was published 19 Dec 08:
2009 Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley 15,16,
17 May 2009.
Those dates are the weekend between Mothers' Day and Memorial Day
Weekend.
Although the "official" dates are 15, 16, and 17 May 2009, most of us
get
there a day early on Thursday and depart Sunday morning (14-17 May
09).
Frank, where are you going to be flying from?
All are welcome. Hope we have a big crowd of Kolb enthusiast. If you
aren't a Kolb enthusiast, you may become one if you hang around us too
long.
john h
mkIII
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Time: 11:52:13 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "grantr"
<grant_richardson25@yahoo.com<mailto:grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>>
It takes a bit of aileron input to correct for some for the gusts. A
few points
in the video you can see I am having to just hold the stick to the
left to keep
the wing down.
Next time I will get the angle set so you can see my stick inputs
better.
I wish the plane did have a quicker roll response.
I guess what we try to avoid is what glider pilots love to get in. I
wonder how
rough the air feels in a glider or hang glider.
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Time: 12:57:09 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "cristalclear13"
<cristalclearwaters@gmail.com<mailto:cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>>
grantr wrote:
> I guess I am hard headed but I always wind up going out to fly in
mid day conditions.
I hate getting up early and I hate going out late and getting home
late
especially with the time change having it get dark around 8 so I
choose to
fly in mid day conditions.
>
> I don't know how rough it is in larger planes but it sure gives me a
workout
keeping the wings level and the airspeed and altitude constant. The
winds were
not bad at 5 to 10mph but thermals were!
>
> Its fun though and I can climb over it. It has helped me flying in
these conditions
to become more comfortable with the airplane. The rough air still
makes
me a little nervous at times especially low on final when I get a good
toss.
>
> I have posted 21 videos! WOW I didnt realize I was enjoying this
camera so much.:D
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i83zmWxqpZM&fmt=18<http://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=i83zmWxqpZM&fmt=18>
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gvs3PaElJM&fmt=18<http://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=3Gvs3PaElJM&fmt=18>
Grant,
That did not look like fun. When I flew to the Douglas Fly-In
everyone was taking
off around noon or 1 so I thought I'd give it a try although I knew
from flying
before in similar conditions that I wouldn't like it. Sure enough I
got
in the air and the thermals/winds rolled me to the left and what
seemed like
an eternity (but was probably only 3 or 4 seconds) I was finally able
to get control
back. I just turned my little tail around and headed for the nice
comfy
recliner at the FBO and waited until evening. Then I had a very nice,
enjoyable
flight home in the evening.
I'm glad to see other's comments here with similar experiences.
Hey, I also saw your snow video! That was so funny. You must have
been really
excited when filming it. That snow chased me all the way from
Illinois. I was
driving my car and everytime I stopped it would start snowing or
icing. So
I headed east and stopped at Jim Kmet's airport and rested for a few
hours.
Woke up around 4am and saw 2-3 inches of snow already building up. So
I got back
on the road and plowed my own route through the unplowed mountain
roads (being
VERY careful not to fall off the mountain...ha!). And when I finally
made
it to Tifton, GA it dried up and we never saw any of it in Waycross.
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Time: 01:09:17 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "lucien"
<lstavenhagen@hotmail.com<mailto:lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>>
grantr wrote:
> It takes a bit of aileron input to correct for some for the gusts.
A few points
in the video you can see I am having to just hold the stick to the
left to
keep the wing down.
>
> Next time I will get the angle set so you can see my stick inputs
better.
>
> I wish the plane did have a quicker roll response.
> I guess what we try to avoid is what glider pilots love to get in. I
wonder how
rough the air feels in a glider or hang glider.
In a glider it's nothin.. no matter how rough you don't care in the
glider and
just want more. Those things are so stable with those super long
wings....
It's just on landing that all the fun you had in the air suddenly goes
away.
That's why I basically stopped with sailplanes myself, you have to
land in those
conditions because you also have to fly in them. Slamming airplanes
onto the
ground is not the kind of fun I want to have.
So I went crawling back to powered flight in the evenings and have
never looked
back.
Now a motorglider, on the other hand... that'd give you the best of
both worlds
if you really needed to fly in midday conditions......
But who can afford one of those?
We're fine with our small planes I think...
LS
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Time: 02:11:29 PM PST US
From: Brian Steiner <bksss@hotmail.com<mailto:bksss@hotmail.com>>
Subject: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic. It
was a
long distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16 foot car
trai
ler. Has anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer? Will he
be a
ble to fit in the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9 hours and find
out t
hat he is too big for it or we can not get it on his trailer. I know
that
we will have to make a stand to hold the tail up but am worried that
it may
protrude a bit far past the end of the trailer.
Thanks for any help.
Brian
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Time: 02:16:44 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
From: Jean PILLAUDIN
<jean.pillaudin@gmail.com<mailto:jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>>
Hi Kolbers,
I read a lot about chute here, don't want to launch again the
debat...I know
that at the Kolb's begining pilot save their life with hand launched
chute.
I have a question regarding the hand launch rescue chute installation
on my
Kolb Ultrastar. I get a chute from ParaDelta Italia, spec are:
Max weight: 250kilos
Max opened speed: 170 km/h
Weight 5kilos
See the drawing NumberOne.jpg : the chute is on a ventrally position
on my
thighs, It is fixed to my harness.
The security belt is too long, I do put it on the top near the
karabiner
(see NumberThree.jpg) ?
The chute must be removable easily, what is the kind of fixation do i
use?
Bests Regards
Jean PILLAUDIN
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Time: 02:18:06 PM PST US
From: "Jack B. Hart"
<jbhart@onlyinternet.net<mailto:jbhart@onlyinternet.net>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
At 11:51 AM 3/26/09 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Next time I will get the angle set so you can see my stick inputs
better.
>
>I guess what we try to avoid is what glider pilots love to get in. I
wonder
how rough the air feels in a glider or hang glider.
>
It feels great. Loose shoulder straps let you beat your head against
the
canopy. Altitude is important, as you are continously flying just
above
stall. When something unexpected happens, altitude gives you some
time to
figure out what is going on or what to do. The best part is that
there is
no engine noise or vibration that mask ones inputs.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Time: 02:21:10 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute
installation
From: Jean PILLAUDIN
<jean.pillaudin@gmail.com<mailto:jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>>
Pffff
The pictures!
2009/3/26 Jean PILLAUDIN
<jean.pillaudin@gmail.com<mailto:jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>>
> Hi Kolbers,
>
> I read a lot about chute here, don't want to launch again the
debat...I
> know that at the Kolb's begining pilot save their life with hand
launched
> chute.
>
> I have a question regarding the hand launch rescue chute
installation on my
> Kolb Ultrastar. I get a chute from ParaDelta Italia, spec are:
>
> Max weight: 250kilos
> Max opened speed: 170 km/h
> Weight 5kilos
>
> See the drawing NumberOne.jpg : the chute is on a ventrally position
on my
> thighs, It is fixed to my harness.
>
> The security belt is too long, I do put it on the top near the
karabiner
> (see NumberThree.jpg) ?
>
> The chute must be removable easily, what is the kind of fixation do
i use?
>
> Bests Regards
>
> Jean PILLAUDIN
> --
> Jean
>
> Q' importe le frelon pourvu qu'on ai l'ivresse!
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Time: 02:35:53 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com<mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute
installation
Jean:
I would use a zig-zag fold of about 10-12" to take up the extra length
of the bridal, what you refer to as a security belt. Secure the fold
with a couple nylon tie wraps. Then secure the folded section to a
tube
inside the gap seal. The end of the bridal, I would secure the loop
aroung the 2" root tube of the airframe behind your head. That is
where
I attached my bridal on my Ultrastar.
john h
mkIII
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From: Jean PILLAUDIN
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute
installation
Pffff
The pictures!
2009/3/26 Jean PILLAUDIN
<jean.pillaudin@gmail.com<mailto:jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>>
Hi Kolbers,
I read a lot about chute here, don't want to launch again the
debat...I know that at the Kolb's begining pilot save their life with
hand launched chute.
I have a question regarding the hand launch rescue chute
installation on my Kolb Ultrastar. I get a chute from ParaDelta
Italia,
spec are:
Max weight: 250kilos
Max opened speed: 170 km/h
Weight 5kilos
See the drawing NumberOne.jpg : the chute is on a ventrally
position
on my thighs, It is fixed to my harness.
The security belt is too long, I do put it on the top near the
karabiner (see NumberThree.jpg) ?
The chute must be removable easily, what is the kind of fixation
do
i use?
Bests Regards
Jean PILLAUDIN
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Time: 02:39:17 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com<mailto:ces308@ldaco.com>>
Well....when I pick up my m3x in January I had a 25' enclosed snow
mobile trailer
and we had to rig up the rear door to stay open at the top about a
foot....a
26 footer would have just made it.If there is any way he can get an
enclosed
trailer...tell him to do it! As far as him fitting into it...I am 5'
10" tall
and I fit just fine .I think anyway you look at it he is going to have
to try
it on !
Good luck!
chris ambrose
m3x-jab
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Time: 02:41:58 PM PST US
From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1@frontiernet.net<mailto:jlsk1@frontiernet.net>>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
Brian, a 16 foot trailer has to have an extension added onto it, at
least 2 feet, then it has to be wide enough for the main gear. I
bought
a MK-3C last year from a guy that wasn`t that tall, but had such a
large
girth( Belly), he couldn`t reach across to the throttle.
Jim Kmet
Cookeville, TN
2 MK-3C`s
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From: Brian Steiner
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:10 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic. It
was a long distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16
foot
car trailer. Has anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer?
Will he be able to fit in the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9
hours
and find out that he is too big for it or we can not get it on his
trailer. I know that we will have to make a stand to hold the tail up
but am worried that it may protrude a bit far past the end of the
trailer.
Thanks for any help.
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Time: 03:40:06 PM PST US
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
Brian
Not apples to apples, but my MKII is about 24' folded. The previous
owner was about
the size of your buyer, and he was able to fit in and fly it.
Malcolm Morrison
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From: "Brian Steiner" <bksss@hotmail.com<mailto:bksss@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:10:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic. It
was a long
distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16 foot car
trailer. Has
anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer? Will he be able to
fit in
the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9 hours and find out that he is
too big
for it or we can not get it on his trailer. I know that we will have
to make
a stand to hold the tail up but am worried that it may protrude a bit
far past
the end of the trailer.
Thanks for any help.
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com<mailto:rlaird@cavediver.com>>
My 26' trailer can fit my MkIII and close the back tailgate, and, when
closed, have just barely enough room to squeeze by if I want to cross
to the
other side. But only if you're really skinny.
I've flown 2-up for a total people-weight of about 420 lbs (and I'm 6'
tall), so a single 275 lbs shouldn't be an issue... but, as Jim said,
reaching the throttle might be an issue if the belly is large.
-- Robert
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Brian Steiner
<bksss@hotmail.com<mailto:bksss@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic.
It was a
> long distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16 foot
car
> trailer. Has anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer?
Will he
> be able to fit in the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9 hours and
find
> out that he is too big for it or we can not get it on his trailer.
I know
> that we will have to make a stand to hold the tail up but am worried
that it
> may protrude a bit far past the end of the trailer.
> Thanks for any help.
> Brian
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Time: 05:45:59 PM PST US
From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1@frontiernet.net<mailto:jlsk1@frontiernet.net>>
Subject: Kolb-List: Used CHT /EGT wanted
Anybody have a westach 2 -1/4 inch EGT & or CHT guage they aren`t
going
to need? I Need one of each, or a Combo EGT/CHT. If so tell me whatcha
got & whatcha want for them.
Offlist is fine
Thanks
Jim Kmet
Cookeville, TN
MK3C w/912 ( now flying)
MK-3C w/582 (Soon flying & soon for sale)
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Time: 07:32:45 PM PST US
From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net<mailto:ulflyer@verizon.net>>
Subject: Kolb-List: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting
aircraft
Hey folks,
If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
attending Sun & Fun, you might want to be aware of the follow
regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft.
jerb
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Time: 07:37:57 PM PST US
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Subject: Kolb-List: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting
aircraft
Hey folks,
If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
attending Sun & Fun, you might want to be aware of the follow
regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft. Anyone
up on this?
jerb
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Time: 08:38:42 PM PST US
From: Mike Welch
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Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting
aircraft
Yes=2C I recall seeing that Florida levied a 6% tax on people that
flew t
heir airplanes and landed at a Florida airport (including visiting
aircraft
attending air shows). Maybe it was on this list=2C about 2 years
back.
Stinkin' freaking tax thieves.
Here's how it worked: (let's say you landed your new TBM turboprop
at S &
F)
If they sent you a tax bill=2C and you thought you were immune
just becau
se you lived in another state...you're wrong!! So=2C you'd say
"Screw 'em
=2C I'll just not go back into Florida!" Hold on=2C it's not that
easy!!
(BTW=2C that's what I thought when California did that to me=2C
and billed
me after I moved out of state)
Remember=2C you're talking about "the government". THEY (the
thieves) ma
ke the rules!! They just look into your personal records for your
social s
ecurity number=2C and put a TAX LIEN on you. This tax lien is
immediately
recorded with all three credit bureaus. You won't qualify to buy
anything
=2C until that lien is cleared!! (ask me how I know)
To read that this thievery is being repealed is comforting. It's
about t
ime!! Now=2C how about a re-vote on the pork-u-lous bill??
Mike Welch
> Hey folks=2C
> If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
> attending Sun & Fun=2C you might want to be aware of the follow
> regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft. Anyone
> up on this?
> jerb
>
>
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Unless you are flying like a fighter pilot pulling high g levels and
possible getting yourself into accelerated stall. You don't need angle of
attack.
Admittedly,, for a fighter pilot, it is still the best,,
but for our type of flying,,, airspeed is good indicator. Keep it
simple. like one less thing to have to worry about. And one less
distraction , and less pilot work load.
Boyd Young
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Kolb people,
A guy that makes these posted this link on a different group site. I
think it may get more exposure on this site, for those that are interested.
Some pilots feel AOA is a better stall indicator than airspeed. Here's
the link:
http://www.pipcom.com/~cowcam/AOAr.htm
Mike Welch
MkIII
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Or, in the case of the last eight years, to make us more compatible with
the National Socialism of 1930's Italy & Germany.
Never kid yourself that the only danger is from the left.
Charlie
herb wrote:
>
> Obviously un constutional...!! But by the time one gets a refund...the
> damage could already be done...
>
> We had a law in Ky where the state could remove a percentage of one
> savings account each year...automatically... My first year here.....It
> was declared unconstutional and I was told that I could apply for a
> refund.... I did not...just decided to get even!! :-)
>
> Does anyone remember the the Founding Documents?? :-) As Ruth Bader
> Ginsburg has said..."they are living and breathing documents" .
> Meaning that they can be destroyed....on a whim.. to make us more
> compatible with North Korea and Venezuela...?? Herb
>
>
> Do not archive....
>
> At 10:32 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote:
>> Yes, I recall seeing that Florida levied a 6% tax on people that flew
>> their airplanes and landed at a Florida airport (including visiting
>> aircraft attending air shows). Maybe it was on this list, about 2
>> years back.
>> Stinkin' freaking tax thieves.
>>
>> Here's how it worked: (let's say you landed your new TBM turboprop at
>> S & F)
>> If they sent you a tax bill, and you thought you were immune just
>> because you lived in another state...you're wrong!! So, you'd say
>> "Screw 'em, I'll just not go back into Florida!" Hold on, it's not
>> that easy!! (BTW, that's what I thought when California did that to
>> me, and billed me after I moved out of state)
>>
>> Remember, you're talking about "the government". THEY (the thieves)
>> make the rules!! They just look into your personal records for your
>> social security number, and put a TAX LIEN on you. This tax lien is
>> immediately recorded with all three credit bureaus. You won't qualify
>> to buy anything, until that lien is cleared!! (ask me how I know)
>>
>> To read that this thievery is being repealed is comforting. It's
>> about time!! Now, how about a re-vote on the pork-u-lous bill??
>>
>> Mike Welch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hey folks,
>> > If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
>> > attending Sun & Fun, you might want to be aware of the follow
>> > regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft. Anyone
>> > up on this?
>> > jerb
>> >
>> > < http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2009/090326florida.html>
>>
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> I notice , in other applications, that steel rivets seem to have
> less spring back ...Herb
Will you explain the above please?
I don't understand what you are talking about.
john h
mkiii
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And learn to fly the Kolb before adding lots of goodies and making major c
hanges. Might save you a lot of time, money, and heart ache in the future.
john h
mkiii
Keep it simple. like one less thing to have to worry about. And one le
ss distraction , and less pilot work load.
Boyd Young
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Tobi:
Scroll to the bottom of page for a url to obtain support for your request.
Those of us on the List are not high enough on the totem pole to add and re
move folks from the List.
john h
mkiii
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1. 05:20 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (pj.ladd)
2. 06:14 AM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (ropermike)
3. 09:42 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (Dana Hague)
4. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Flying videos thermals! (Dana Hague)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (John Hauck)
6. 10:08 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 10:21 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country (lucien)
8. 10:33 AM - Dates for M.V. (frank.goodnight)
9. 11:09 AM - Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country? (pj.ladd)
10. 11:34 AM - Re: Dates for M.V. (John Hauck)
11. 11:52 AM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (grantr)
12. 12:57 PM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (cristalclear13)
13. 01:09 PM - Re: Flying videos thermals! (lucien)
14. 02:11 PM - How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (Brian Stein
er)
15. 02:16 PM - Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation (Je
an PILLAUDIN)
16. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Flying videos thermals! (Jack B. Hart)
17. 02:21 PM - Re: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
(Jean PILLAUDIN)
18. 02:35 PM - Re: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
(John Hauck)
19. 02:39 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (ces308)
20. 02:41 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (Jim Kme
t)
21. 03:40 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (gliderx
5@comcast.net)
22. 05:24 PM - Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic? (Robert
Laird)
23. 05:45 PM - Used CHT /EGT wanted (Jim Kmet)
24. 07:32 PM - Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft
(jerb)
25. 07:37 PM - Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft
(jerb)
26. 08:38 PM - Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting airc
raft (Mike Welch)
________________________________ Message 1 __________________________
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Time: 05:20:00 AM PST US
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country?
A person takes a mighty big gamble flying cross-country with old charts
.
Hi All,
in the UK it is illegal to fly without an up to date chart. Most peopl
e
fly with one, not necessarily THAT up to date but i have never heard of
anyone being checked.
Pat
________________________________ Message 2 __________________________
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Time: 06:14:13 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
I purchased my MK II in south Ms and flew it there for 6 months before
bringing
it home to West Texas. After unloading the plane in the middle of the s
ummer
afternoon, I couldnt resist taking it for a spin. I was shocked as it n
early beat
me to death and my aileron control was very sluggish at times! It didnt
take
me long to get back on the ground! I found out pretty quick why they ha
ve the
yearly world championship hang gliding competition 20 miles north in Bi
g Springs,
Texas......I am a early morning/ late evening flyer as I like to fly at
1000' agl or lower on my pleasure missions. I try to go up on short fli
ghts in
the midday thermals every now and then just to train myself and get use
d to
the rough air but I am still very uncomfortable. Until a few years ago,
I had
owned and flown a Piper Pacer for 10 years and never remember it being
that rough,
but then again, most of my flights with the Pacer was climbing up high
and
going somewhere.
--------
The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mik
e Hillger
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Time: 09:42:07 AM PST US
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country?
At 08:18 AM 3/26/2009, pj.ladd wrote:
>
>in the UK it is illegal to fly without an up to date chart. Most peop
le
>fly with one, not necessarily THAT up to date but i have never heard o
f
>anyone being checked.
To the best of my knowledge there is no US regulation requiring a chart
to
be carried.
Instead we simply have this:
=A7 91.103 Preflight action.
Each pilot in command shall, before beginning a flight, become familiar
with all available information concerning that flight. This information
must include=97
(a) For a flight under IFR or a flight not in the vicinity of an airpor
t,
weather reports and forecasts, fuel requirements, alternatives availabl
e if
the planned flight cannot be completed, and any known traffic delays of
which the pilot in command has been advised by ATC;
(b) For any flight, runway lengths at airports of intended use, and the
following takeoff and landing distance information:
(1) For civil aircraft for which an approved Airplane or Rotorcraft Fli
ght
Manual containing takeoff and landing distance data is required, the
takeoff and landing distance data contained therein; and
(2) For civil aircraft other than those specified in paragraph (b)(1) o
f
this section, other reliable information appropriate to the aircraft,
relating to aircraft performance under expected values of airport eleva
tion
and runway slope, aircraft gross weight, and wind and temperature.
-Dana
--
Hangover: The Wrath of Grapes.
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Time: 09:46:41 AM PST US
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
At 09:13 AM 3/26/2009, ropermike wrote:
>...rough air but I am still very uncomfortable. Until a few years ago,
I
>had owned and flown a Piper Pacer for 10 years and never remember it b
eing
>that rough, but then again, most of my flights with the Pacer was clim
bing
>up high and going somewhere...
Your Pacer had short wings and a much higher wing loading than a Kolb.
-Dana
--
Hangover: The Wrath of Grapes.
________________________________ Message 5 __________________________
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Time: 09:57:21 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country?
I tried to find the reg, but alas, I failed. Maybe some of the more
informed pilots on the Kolb List can pull up this info.
John W was the one who told me about sectionals and GPS's.
He said if your sectional was current, the Jeppesen Data Base in your
GPS did not have to be current.
If your GPS was current, you were not required to have a current
sectional.
However, don't get ramp checked with only an expired sectional or only
an expired Jeppesen Data Base in your GPS, or both.
John W was an excellent source of flying info. He should have been. H
e
lived and worked with it right out of high school, as an Army Aviator,
for nearly 40 years to the day he died. I have no reason to disagree
with his info.
john h
mkIII
To the best of my knowledge there is no US regulation requiring a
chart to be carried.
-Dana
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Time: 10:08:54 AM PST US
From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country?
Dana
It would be nice if part 91.103 said up to date chart. What is says is
that you need "all available information" which means no matter what al
l
information you may have gathered you are likely to have missed
something they could cite you for missing.
I have said this before but If you are a EAA member there is a free
flight planning service that is really worth doing. If your not a membe
r
it may still be well worth using it. You get the latest charts in knee
board format and notams for your route of flight. This is especially
useful if you don't have time to order the latest charts before a
flight. It can also be found at areoplanner.com
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Hague
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD
for X country?
At 08:18 AM 3/26/2009, pj.ladd wrote:
in the UK it is illegal to fly without an up to date chart. Most
people fly with one, not necessarily THAT up to date but i have never
heard of anyone being checked.
To the best of my knowledge there is no US regulation requiring a
chart to be carried.
Instead we simply have this:
=A7 91.103 Preflight action.
Each pilot in command shall, before beginning a flight, become
familiar with all available information concerning that flight. This
information must include-
(a) For a flight under IFR or a flight not in the vicinity of an
airport, weather reports and forecasts, fuel requirements, alternatives
available if the planned flight cannot be completed, and any known
traffic delays of which the pilot in command has been advised by ATC;
(b) For any flight, runway lengths at airports of intended use, and
the following takeoff and landing distance information:
(1) For civil aircraft for which an approved Airplane or Rotorcraft
Flight Manual containing takeoff and landing distance data is required,
the takeoff and landing distance data contained therein; and
(2) For civil aircraft other than those specified in paragraph
(b)(1) of this section, other reliable information appropriate to the
aircraft, relating to aircraft performance under expected values of
airport elevation and runway slope, aircraft gross weight, and wind and
temperature.
-Dana
--
Hangover: The Wrath of Grapes.
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Time: 10:21:01 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country
From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
Hmm... It sounds to me like Dana is right. There's no specific reg that
says you
must carry charts (except for 91.503, but that applies only to big iron
jets
and such). There's just the requirement that you get "all available inf
ormation".
Looks like this can be a De Facto requirement that you have a chart, i.
e. you can
get busted under 91.103 if there's a violation and they want to pin you
with
that. But that appears to be it.
I'll be darned... I could have sworn it was a hard/fast requirement....
.
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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Time: 10:33:00 AM PST US
From: "frank.goodnight" <frank.goodnight@att.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Dates for M.V.
Would someone please post the dates for M.V.
I plan to attend but don't know when to be there.
Frank Goodnight
FireStar2
HKS 65 hrs.
________________________________ Message 9 __________________________
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Time: 11:09:11 AM PST US
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for
X country?
Instead we simply have this:
=A7 91.103 Preflight action..
Hi Dana. Thats enough to be going on with. I am sure that we have
something similar but the way it actually works is kick the tyres (or
tires) and pull the string.
Cheers
Pat
________________________________ Message 10 _________________________
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Time: 11:34:26 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dates for M.V.
> Would someone please post the dates for M.V.
> I plan to attend but don't know when to be there.
>
> Frank Goodnight
Here's what was published 19 Dec 08:
2009 Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley 15,16,
17 May 2009.
Those dates are the weekend between Mothers' Day and Memorial Day Weeke
nd.
Although the "official" dates are 15, 16, and 17 May 2009, most of us g
et
there a day early on Thursday and depart Sunday morning (14-17 May 09).
Frank, where are you going to be flying from?
All are welcome. Hope we have a big crowd of Kolb enthusiast. If you
aren't a Kolb enthusiast, you may become one if you hang around us too
long.
john h
mkIII
________________________________ Message 11 _________________________
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Time: 11:52:13 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
It takes a bit of aileron input to correct for some for the gusts. A f
ew points
in the video you can see I am having to just hold the stick to the left
to keep
the wing down.
Next time I will get the angle set so you can see my stick inputs bette
r.
I wish the plane did have a quicker roll response.
I guess what we try to avoid is what glider pilots love to get in. I wo
nder how
rough the air feels in a glider or hang glider.
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Time: 12:57:09 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
grantr wrote:
> I guess I am hard headed but I always wind up going out to fly in mid
day conditions.
I hate getting up early and I hate going out late and getting home late
especially with the time change having it get dark around 8 so I choose
to
fly in mid day conditions.
>
> I don't know how rough it is in larger planes but it sure gives me a
workout
keeping the wings level and the airspeed and altitude constant. The win
ds were
not bad at 5 to 10mph but thermals were!
>
> Its fun though and I can climb over it. It has helped me flying in t
hese conditions
to become more comfortable with the airplane. The rough air still makes
me a little nervous at times especially low on final when I get a good
toss.
>
> I have posted 21 videos! WOW I didnt realize I was enjoying this came
ra so much.:D
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i83zmWxqpZM&fmt=18
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gvs3PaElJM&fmt=18
Grant,
That did not look like fun. When I flew to the Douglas Fly-In everyone
was taking
off around noon or 1 so I thought I'd give it a try although I knew fro
m flying
before in similar conditions that I wouldn't like it. Sure enough I go
t
in the air and the thermals/winds rolled me to the left and what seemed
like
an eternity (but was probably only 3 or 4 seconds) I was finally able t
o get control
back. I just turned my little tail around and headed for the nice comf
y
recliner at the FBO and waited until evening. Then I had a very nice,
enjoyable
flight home in the evening.
I'm glad to see other's comments here with similar experiences.
Hey, I also saw your snow video! That was so funny. You must have bee
n really
excited when filming it. That snow chased me all the way from Illinois
. I was
driving my car and everytime I stopped it would start snowing or icing.
So
I headed east and stopped at Jim Kmet's airport and rested for a few ho
urs.
Woke up around 4am and saw 2-3 inches of snow already building up. So
I got back
on the road and plowed my own route through the unplowed mountain roads
(being
VERY careful not to fall off the mountain...ha!). And when I finally m
ade
it to Tifton, GA it dried up and we never saw any of it in Waycross.
--------
Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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Time: 01:09:17 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
grantr wrote:
> It takes a bit of aileron input to correct for some for the gusts. A
few points
in the video you can see I am having to just hold the stick to the left
to
keep the wing down.
>
> Next time I will get the angle set so you can see my stick inputs bet
ter.
>
> I wish the plane did have a quicker roll response.
> I guess what we try to avoid is what glider pilots love to get in. I
wonder how
rough the air feels in a glider or hang glider.
In a glider it's nothin.. no matter how rough you don't care in the gli
der and
just want more. Those things are so stable with those super long wings.
..
It's just on landing that all the fun you had in the air suddenly goes
away.
That's why I basically stopped with sailplanes myself, you have to land
in those
conditions because you also have to fly in them. Slamming airplanes ont
o the
ground is not the kind of fun I want to have.
So I went crawling back to powered flight in the evenings and have neve
r looked
back.
Now a motorglider, on the other hand... that'd give you the best of bot
h worlds
if you really needed to fly in midday conditions......
But who can afford one of those?
We're fine with our small planes I think...
LS
--------
LS
Titan II SS
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Time: 02:11:29 PM PST US
From: Brian Steiner <bksss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic. It wa
s a
long distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16 foot car
trai
ler. Has anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer? Will he
be a
ble to fit in the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9 hours and find o
ut t
hat he is too big for it or we can not get it on his trailer. I know t
hat
we will have to make a stand to hold the tail up but am worried that it
may
protrude a bit far past the end of the trailer.
Thanks for any help.
Brian
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Time: 02:16:44 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
From: Jean PILLAUDIN <jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>
Hi Kolbers,
I read a lot about chute here, don't want to launch again the debat...I
know
that at the Kolb's begining pilot save their life with hand launched ch
ute.
I have a question regarding the hand launch rescue chute installation o
n my
Kolb Ultrastar. I get a chute from ParaDelta Italia, spec are:
Max weight: 250kilos
Max opened speed: 170 km/h
Weight 5kilos
See the drawing NumberOne.jpg : the chute is on a ventrally position on
my
thighs, It is fixed to my harness.
The security belt is too long, I do put it on the top near the karabine
r
(see NumberThree.jpg) ?
The chute must be removable easily, what is the kind of fixation do i u
se?
Bests Regards
Jean PILLAUDIN
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Time: 02:18:06 PM PST US
From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flying videos thermals!
At 11:51 AM 3/26/09 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Next time I will get the angle set so you can see my stick inputs bett
er.
>
>I guess what we try to avoid is what glider pilots love to get in. I w
onder
how rough the air feels in a glider or hang glider.
>
It feels great. Loose shoulder straps let you beat your head against t
he
canopy. Altitude is important, as you are continously flying just abov
e
stall. When something unexpected happens, altitude gives you some time
to
figure out what is going on or what to do. The best part is that there
is
no engine noise or vibration that mask ones inputs.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Time: 02:21:10 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
From: Jean PILLAUDIN <jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>
Pffff
The pictures!
2009/3/26 Jean PILLAUDIN <jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>
> Hi Kolbers,
>
> I read a lot about chute here, don't want to launch again the debat..
.I
> know that at the Kolb's begining pilot save their life with hand laun
ched
> chute.
>
> I have a question regarding the hand launch rescue chute installation
on my
> Kolb Ultrastar. I get a chute from ParaDelta Italia, spec are:
>
> Max weight: 250kilos
> Max opened speed: 170 km/h
> Weight 5kilos
>
> See the drawing NumberOne.jpg : the chute is on a ventrally position
on my
> thighs, It is fixed to my harness.
>
> The security belt is too long, I do put it on the top near the karabi
ner
> (see NumberThree.jpg) ?
>
> The chute must be removable easily, what is the kind of fixation do i
use?
>
> Bests Regards
>
> Jean PILLAUDIN
> --
> Jean
>
> Q' importe le frelon pourvu qu'on ai l'ivresse!
>
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>
> *
>
>
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Time: 02:35:53 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute installation
Jean:
I would use a zig-zag fold of about 10-12" to take up the extra length
of the bridal, what you refer to as a security belt. Secure the fold
with a couple nylon tie wraps. Then secure the folded section to a tub
e
inside the gap seal. The end of the bridal, I would secure the loop
aroung the 2" root tube of the airframe behind your head. That is wher
e
I attached my bridal on my Ultrastar.
john h
mkIII
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean PILLAUDIN
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar hand launch rescue chute
installation
Pffff
The pictures!
2009/3/26 Jean PILLAUDIN <jean.pillaudin@gmail.com>
Hi Kolbers,
I read a lot about chute here, don't want to launch again the
debat...I know that at the Kolb's begining pilot save their life with
hand launched chute.
I have a question regarding the hand launch rescue chute
installation on my Kolb Ultrastar. I get a chute from ParaDelta Italia,
spec are:
Max weight: 250kilos
Max opened speed: 170 km/h
Weight 5kilos
See the drawing NumberOne.jpg : the chute is on a ventrally positio
n
on my thighs, It is fixed to my harness.
The security belt is too long, I do put it on the top near the
karabiner (see NumberThree.jpg) ?
The chute must be removable easily, what is the kind of fixation do
i use?
Bests Regards
Jean PILLAUDIN
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Time: 02:39:17 PM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
Well....when I pick up my m3x in January I had a 25' enclosed snow mobi
le trailer
and we had to rig up the rear door to stay open at the top about a foot
...a
26 footer would have just made it.If there is any way he can get an enc
losed
trailer...tell him to do it! As far as him fitting into it...I am 5' 10
" tall
and I fit just fine .I think anyway you look at it he is going to have
to try
it on !
Good luck!
chris ambrose
m3x-jab
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Time: 02:41:58 PM PST US
From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
Brian, a 16 foot trailer has to have an extension added onto it, at
least 2 feet, then it has to be wide enough for the main gear. I bought
a MK-3C last year from a guy that wasn`t that tall, but had such a larg
e
girth( Belly), he couldn`t reach across to the throttle.
Jim Kmet
Cookeville, TN
2 MK-3C`s
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Steiner
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:10 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic. It
was a long distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16 foo
t
car trailer. Has anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer?
Will he be able to fit in the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9 hour
s
and find out that he is too big for it or we can not get it on his
trailer. I know that we will have to make a stand to hold the tail up
but am worried that it may protrude a bit far past the end of the
trailer.
Thanks for any help.
Brian
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Time: 03:40:06 PM PST US
From: gliderx5@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
Brian
Not apples to apples, but my MKII is about 24' folded. The previous own
er was about
the size of your buyer, and he was able to fit in and fly it.
Malcolm Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Steiner" <bksss@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:10:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic. It was
a long
distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16 foot car trail
er. Has
anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer? Will he be able to
fit in
the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9 hours and find out that he is t
oo big
for it or we can not get it on his trailer. I know that we will have to
make
a stand to hold the tail up but am worried that it may protrude a bit f
ar past
the end of the trailer.
Thanks for any help.
Brian
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Time: 05:24:20 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: How long is a folded mark 111 classic?
From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
My 26' trailer can fit my MkIII and close the back tailgate, and, when
closed, have just barely enough room to squeeze by if I want to cross t
o the
other side. But only if you're really skinny.
I've flown 2-up for a total people-weight of about 420 lbs (and I'm 6'
tall), so a single 275 lbs shouldn't be an issue... but, as Jim said,
reaching the throttle might be an issue if the belly is large.
-- Robert
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Brian Steiner <bksss@hotmail.com> wrot
e:
> A 6 foot 275 pound person wants to purchase my mark 111 classic. It
was a
> long distance phone call and he wants to pick it up with a 16 foot ca
r
> trailer. Has anyone hauled a mark 111 on a 16 foot long trailer? Wi
ll he
> be able to fit in the cabin. I do not want him to drive 9 hours and
find
> out that he is too big for it or we can not get it on his trailer. I
know
> that we will have to make a stand to hold the tail up but am worried
that it
> may protrude a bit far past the end of the trailer.
> Thanks for any help.
> Brian
>
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Time: 05:45:59 PM PST US
From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Used CHT /EGT wanted
Anybody have a westach 2 -1/4 inch EGT & or CHT guage they aren`t going
to need? I Need one of each, or a Combo EGT/CHT. If so tell me whatcha
got & whatcha want for them.
Offlist is fine
Thanks
Jim Kmet
Cookeville, TN
MK3C w/912 ( now flying)
MK-3C w/582 (Soon flying & soon for sale)
Do not archive
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Time: 07:32:45 PM PST US
From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraf
t
Hey folks,
If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
attending Sun & Fun, you might want to be aware of the follow
regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft.
jerb
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2009/090326florida.html
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Time: 07:37:57 PM PST US
From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraf
t
Hey folks,
If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
attending Sun & Fun, you might want to be aware of the follow
regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft. Anyone
up on this?
jerb
<http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2009/090326florida.html>
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Time: 08:38:42 PM PST US
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting air
craft
Yes=2C I recall seeing that Florida levied a 6% tax on people that
flew t
heir airplanes and landed at a Florida airport (including visiting airc
raft
attending air shows). Maybe it was on this list=2C about 2 years ba
ck.
Stinkin' freaking tax thieves.
Here's how it worked: (let's say you landed your new TBM turboprop at
S &
F)
If they sent you a tax bill=2C and you thought you were immune just
becau
se you lived in another state...you're wrong!! So=2C you'd say "Scre
w 'em
=2C I'll just not go back into Florida!" Hold on=2C it's not that
easy!!
(BTW=2C that's what I thought when California did that to me=2C and
billed
me after I moved out of state)
Remember=2C you're talking about "the government". THEY (the thiev
es) ma
ke the rules!! They just look into your personal records for your soci
al s
ecurity number=2C and put a TAX LIEN on you. This tax lien is immedi
ately
recorded with all three credit bureaus. You won't qualify to buy anyth
ing
=2C until that lien is cleared!! (ask me how I know)
To read that this thievery is being repealed is comforting. It's abo
ut t
ime!! Now=2C how about a re-vote on the pork-u-lous bill??
Mike Welch
> Hey folks=2C
> If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
> attending Sun & Fun=2C you might want to be aware of the follow
> regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft. Anyone
> up on this?
> jerb
>
> <http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2009/090326florida.html>
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John
I use a hand riveter...Have a grip like Pop eye.!!
When pulling stainless...I notice that I get more loose rivets
that have to be drilled out... Steel rivets seem to be more
conforming as one would expect...since they are of a softer,milder
composition... Evidenced when drilling out!! By the way...when
were stainless rivets first used as a factory requirement? Herb
At 12:53 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote:
>
>
> > I notice , in other applications, that steel rivets seem to have
>>less spring back ...Herb
>
>Will you explain the above please?
>
>I don't understand what you are talking about.
>
>john h
>mkiii
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AOA indicator |
John
Dressing up a plane is a bit like dressing up a
motorcycle...Lots of stickers for one.., showing
the name of the engine co, name of oil, prop
used,, favorite parts supplier etc..name of
places we have flown... Gal friends name...etc...
and as we get older...our name and address and phone number...:-)
The only trouble I see with aol is the
distraction one must go thru when adjusting....
I think I would install a small movie camera
during the full stall landings...that are
suggested and necessary...My one full stall
landing required some repairs...:-)
Herb
At 12:57 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote:
>And learn to fly the Kolb before adding lots of
>goodies and making major changes. Might save
>you a lot of time, money, and heart ache in the future.
>
>john h
>mkiii
>
> Keep it simple=85 like one less thing to have
> to worry about. And one less distraction , and less pilot work load.
>
>Boyd Young
>
>
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> I use a hand riveter...Have a grip like Pop eye.!!
>
> When pulling stainless...I notice that I get more loose rivets that
> have to be drilled out... Steel rivets seem to be more conforming as one
> would expect...since they are of a softer,milder composition... Evidenced
> when drilling out!! By the way...when were stainless rivets first used
> as a factory requirement? Herb
I also use a hand pop rivet tool, always have. May be getting too old for
one now, although I popped about 10 each 1/8 X 1/2" rivets the other day
without any big problems.
Never had a problem with loose SS rivets, although I must be careful to
insure the rivet is fully seated before I start pulling.
I agree, SS is more difficult to pull than carbon steel pop rivets.
Little Mike, at Old Kolb, special ordered my SS rivets in 1986, for my FS.
I am not sure when SS started getting shipped with the kits, probably some
time around 1987 or 1988. Dennis Souder probably remembers.
john h
mkiii
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| Subject: | Re: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft |
I would take the last 8 years over the last 60 days in a New York minute!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Florida may tax recently purchased visiting aircraft
Or, in the case of the last eight years, to make us more compatible with
the National Socialism of 1930's Italy & Germany.
Never kid yourself that the only danger is from the left.
Charlie
herb wrote:
>
> Obviously un constutional...!! But by the time one gets a refund...the
> damage could already be done...
>
> We had a law in Ky where the state could remove a percentage of one
> savings account each year...automatically... My first year here.....It
> was declared unconstutional and I was told that I could apply for a
> refund.... I did not...just decided to get even!! :-)
>
> Does anyone remember the the Founding Documents?? :-) As Ruth Bader
> Ginsburg has said..."they are living and breathing documents" .
> Meaning that they can be destroyed....on a whim.. to make us more
> compatible with North Korea and Venezuela...?? Herb
>
>
> Do not archive....
>
> At 10:32 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote:
>> Yes, I recall seeing that Florida levied a 6% tax on people that flew
>> their airplanes and landed at a Florida airport (including visiting
>> aircraft attending air shows). Maybe it was on this list, about 2
>> years back.
>> Stinkin' freaking tax thieves.
>>
>> Here's how it worked: (let's say you landed your new TBM turboprop at
>> S & F)
>> If they sent you a tax bill, and you thought you were immune just
>> because you lived in another state...you're wrong!! So, you'd say
>> "Screw 'em, I'll just not go back into Florida!" Hold on, it's not
>> that easy!! (BTW, that's what I thought when California did that to
>> me, and billed me after I moved out of state)
>>
>> Remember, you're talking about "the government". THEY (the thieves)
>> make the rules!! They just look into your personal records for your
>> social security number, and put a TAX LIEN on you. This tax lien is
>> immediately recorded with all three credit bureaus. You won't qualify
>> to buy anything, until that lien is cleared!! (ask me how I know)
>>
>> To read that this thievery is being repealed is comforting. It's
>> about time!! Now, how about a re-vote on the pork-u-lous bill??
>>
>> Mike Welch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hey folks,
>> > If you recently purchased a plane and plan to visit Florida such as
>> > attending Sun & Fun, you might want to be aware of the follow
>> > regarding their taxing recently purchased visiting aircraft. Anyone
>> > up on this?
>> > jerb
>> >
>> > < http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2009/090326florida.html>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 03/26/09 |
Why is there a email list and a forum for the same reading? I joined the forum
and do not get email notices. When I log in I can see new posts.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | air scoop on HKS |
Jerry from Green Sky AV. sent me a pair of alum air scoops, that someone
had made for an earlier model of HKS, to try to see if I could reduce
the temps without moving the oil cooler. With the muffler and oil cooler
on top of the Firestar wings the air is disrupted enough that the temps
on the engine are way too high, bumping redline at anything over 5300
RPM's.
I am pleased to report that they worked just fine. I was able to use the
engine as I wished without regard to overheating for the first time.
Results of the test are @ 43 degrees OAT. @ 5350 RPM - 286 degrees. @
5750 RPM 304 degrees. @ 6150 RPM- 304 degrees. I currently have 21 hours
on the engine.
I flew for one hour and 12 minutes, total of one hour and 24 minutes
counting warm up and burned 4 gallons of fuel. 91 Octane mogas.
This is a reduction of 40 degrees through the entire range of operation.
I can live with that.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: air scoop on HKS |
Thank God!!!
Now...us Rotax guys won't have to hear you whine during our visit to the Ro
ck House in May. ;-)
Glad you got some real relief.
john h
mkIII
This is a reduction of 40 degrees through the entire range of operation.
I can live with that.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: air scoop on HKS |
Larry
Not unlike the scoops used on the Jabiru's on Titan airframes... Herb
At 02:25 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote:
>Jerry from Green Sky AV. sent me a pair of alum air scoops, that
>someone had made for an earlier model of HKS, to try to see if I
>could reduce the temps without moving the oil cooler. With the
>muffler and oil cooler on top of the Firestar wings the air is
>disrupted enough that the temps on the engine are way too high,
>bumping redline at anything over 5300 RPM's.
>
>I am pleased to report that they worked just fine. I was able to use
>the engine as I wished without regard to overheating for the first time.
>
>Results of the test are @ 43 degrees OAT. @ 5350 RPM - 286 degrees.
>@ 5750 RPM 304 degrees. @ 6150 RPM- 304 degrees. I currently have 21
>hours on the engine.
>
>I flew for one hour and 12 minutes, total of one hour and 24 minutes
>counting warm up and burned 4 gallons of fuel. 91 Octane mogas.
>
>This is a reduction of 40 degrees through the entire range of
>operation. I can live with that.
>Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: air scoop on HKS |
:-)
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: air scoop on HKS
Thank God!!!
Now...us Rotax guys won't have to hear you whine during our visit to
the Rock House in May. ;-)
Glad you got some real relief.
john h
mkIII
This is a reduction of 40 degrees through the entire range of
operation. I can live with that.
Larry C
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At 01:12 PM 3/27/09 -0500, you wrote:
>
>John
>
> I use a hand riveter...Have a grip like Pop eye.!!
>
> When pulling stainless...I notice that I get more loose rivets
>that have to be drilled out... Steel rivets seem to be more
>conforming as one would expect...since they are of a softer,milder
>composition... Evidenced when drilling out!! By the way...when
>were stainless rivets first used as a factory requirement? Herb
>
Herb,
I noticed the same thing. After comparing the two the reason became clear.
When looking at them with the flange to the bottom, one can see the steel
rivets have less of a radius from the flat to the rivet body. This lets
them drop further into the hole before pulling the mandrel. With stainless
steel rivets it is important to slightly de burr or knock the edge off the
hole to accommodate the rivet.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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I have had good results with Marson "Klik-Lok" rivets. These are all
aluminum, retained mandrel, specially made for weatherproofness and high
vibration applications... 700# shear and 500# tensile in the 3/16" size I
used. I haven't used them on my UltraStar (the existing rivets look fine),
but They're holding up fine in some high stress areas on one of my
paramotors, with plenty of vibration (single cylinder motor).
The Klik-Loks aren't available in 1/8", but their Q-Lok's are... still
retained mandrel, but in steel, and considerably stronger than standard pop
rivets, particularly under vibration. I plan to use either or both of
these on the new airplane I'm designing.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Flying videos thermals! |
[quote="grantr"]
> The more comfortable you become with the bumpy air the more you will enjoy flying
in it as it doesn't bother you as much.
>
> Nothing beats a late afternoon flight or early morning one though. Thats like
sitting in a lounge chair in the sky.
I flew my friend's RV-9 and there was a HUGE difference in the way his plane handled
the turbulence. It was still very bumpy (couldn't even grab hold of the
dial to turn up my headset), but I still felt like I was in control of the plane.
With my Mark II, I don't know if it's those big flaperons that does it but
the turbulence will roll me and turn me and the controls just don't respond
quick enough for me to be comfortable. I've tried it several times and it's
just not something I WANT to get comfortable with or used to. I'll stick to evening/morning
flights in my Mark II.
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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[quote="cristalclear13"]
grantr wrote:
>
> I flew my friend's RV-9 and there was a HUGE difference in the way his plane
handled the turbulence. It was still very bumpy (couldn't even grab hold of the
dial to turn up my headset), but I still felt like I was in control of the
plane. With my Mark II, I don't know if it's those big flaperons that does it
but the turbulence will roll me and turn me and the controls just don't respond
quick enough for me to be comfortable. I've tried it several times and it's
just not something I WANT to get comfortable with or used to. I'll stick to
evening/morning flights in my Mark II.
Oh yeah, that's true - the former partner in my plane bought an RV6-A about a year
ago. You can fly that thing in any old hurricane or dust devils you want and
you barely have to move the stick.
You basically don't have to worry about it until it just gets so bad that even
the big iron can't fly.
But of course, that's why you spend upwards of 100 large to build one of those
things... and drink a fortune in gas.... and the view isn't too hot either....
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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I used an air driven rivet gun... at first I was not happy with it.. it
set the rivets with the same speed as a nail gun... then I built a flow
restrictor so that the rivet would take a couple seconds to pull, at that
speed I could push the joint tight and watch it pull the pieces together
even tighter as it set the rivet.
Boyd Young Kolb MKIIIC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
With stainless
steel rivets it is important to slightly de burr or knock the edge off the
hole to accommodate the rivet.
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Alright !!! Finally a real airplane engine !!! lol
chris ambrose
M3X-jab
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| Subject: | I'm On My Way! (Yet Still At Home.) |
Hi fellow aviators -
I think most, but perhaps not all of you know that I'm about to take off on a mega-flight
in my Drifter, flying from Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun, round trip. Randy
Simpson, a good friend and Carrera pilot will be making the flight with me,
and lots of other pilots are chiming in about joining us for part of the flight.
We are scheduled to leave Sunday, March 30. I was in my hangar yesterday, (Thursday)
getting packed, when another pilot stopped by and pointed out that the weather
forecast was for rain starting Friday night and continuing non-stop until
next Tuesday or Wednesday. That's what I was afraid of when I first began
planning this flight - not being able to get out of northwestern Oregon during
March or even early April.
I looked out at the perfect blue sky and thought: "Right now is great flying weather."
I'm a great believer in taking advantage of the moment. So I called Norm
and asked: "Honey, could you skip your meeting tonight and drive down to Lebanon
and pick me up?" When he asked what the heck I was talking about, I explained
that if I left right away and flew south to Lebanon - about 70 miles - I'd
be pretty much out of the forecast rain storms. Since I had a work commitment
on Friday that I absolutely couldn't walk away from, I figured that I'd leave
the Drifter at the Lebanon State Airport, come home, work on Friday, and then
he could drive me back to Lebanon on Sunday so I could get on with the flight.
Norm, bless his heart, is used to my shenanigans. He said he'd meet me down
there.
So - I had a great flight yesterday. Lots of clouds but a high ceiling so not to
worry. More than 20 miles visibility. Calm air. It's really peaceful flying
by myself, and I enjoyed loafing along at 50-55 mph.
I decided to fly strictly by pilotage instead of using my GPS, just to brush up
on my ability to follow a sectional. It was great fun, but not a real test since
I'm so very familiar with the area. I also turned on my SPOT tracker so that
when I got home I could look up my track during the flight. (It works perfectly!
I've now got a link to my SPOT tracking on my blog.)
The FBO owners at Lebanon are absolutely wonderful. They have the first-ever S-LSA
Hornet, which they want to use for flight instruction. They live right there
at the FBO and the entire FBO looks more like a home than a business office.
So Norm met me in Lebanon, we came home, I worked today (Friday,) will use tomorrow
to finish packing and do miscellaneous other things at home, and will begin
the 2nd leg of my flight on Sunday!!!
You can check out my blog at the URL below. I still have to put our return route
on the site - have almost all of the east-bound route figured out.
I'll have e-mail access, so you can still be in touch. If we'll be flying your
way and you'd like us to stop in, send me a phone number and airstrip coordinates
(or an identifier) so I can contact you when we're a day or so out.
YEAH! After months of dreaming about this, it's about to happen!
Arty Trost
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure.htm
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| Subject: | Whoops - sent the wrong URL |
Sorry - I forgot to add the 2009 in the URL I sent.
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
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It should be<br><br>www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
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