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1. 02:53 AM - Re: Re: vibrations (zeprep251@aol.com)
2. 04:29 AM - Re: harmonics (Ted Cowan)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: harmonics (Jim Hauck)
4. 06:07 AM - Re: Re: harmonics (robert bean)
5. 06:10 AM - Cuyuna torque (Dana Hague)
6. 06:17 AM - Re: Cuyuna torque (Herb)
7. 06:53 AM - Re: Victoria Falls (pj.ladd)
8. 07:47 AM - XC Photo (John Hauck)
9. 07:49 AM - XC Photo (John Hauck)
10. 08:37 AM - Re: Victoria Falls (Larry Cottrell)
11. 08:42 AM - Sun & Fun 2009 NOTAM (John Hauck)
12. 08:43 AM - Arty Trost (John Hauck)
13. 08:47 AM - Re: Back to gascolators (Dave Kulp)
14. 02:02 PM - Stits (william sullivan)
15. 04:44 PM - Cuyuna exhaust rubber mounts (Dana Hague)
16. 04:54 PM - Re: Cuyuna exhaust rubber mounts (John Hauck)
17. 06:20 PM - Re: Stits (Herb)
18. 06:32 PM - Re: Cuyuna exhaust rubber mounts (Herb)
19. 06:36 PM - Re: Stits (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
20. 06:42 PM - Stits (william sullivan)
21. 06:47 PM - Re: Stits (Mike Welch)
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Larry,
??? I ran into the same speed problem with my FS2 full enclosure.When I tried to
pick up speed by lowering the nose a little,the enclosure tore loose from the
right side of the windshield former? tube and entered the propeller arc.I was
lucky enough to drag it back into the cabin and continue to my field.It put
1 big gash in the clear vinyl part of the enclosure but it was repairable and
a lesson was learned.I have no idea why it did not wad up in the prop and create
the scenario that is going thru your mind right now,I really don't.
???????????????????? G Aman former FS2 driver.It's still my favorite Kolb.
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
Sent: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: vibrations
?
My FSII was unbelievably loud in the cockpit and sure enough it was open
at the rear. Wish I'd had my telex ANR headset back when I had that
plane......
LS
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LS
Titan II
SS
For what its worth, on my trip to Texas
with Arty, I used the full enclosure on my Firestar.?That is the full
windshield and the fabric with the convertible type window in it. It cut my
maximum speed to 60 MPH. Without it and using the full windshield I gained 7
MPH. It might be quieter, but I am not willing to take the cut in top
speed.
Larry C
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Thanks people. Got a lot of good ideas to work with. I might mention here
that I have talked to WD about this problem before and I decided that having
them send a set of props out and having to send them back used, was not a
good solution. (they did not volunteer to do it) If I had more PROOF that
this was the problem I would do it in a heart beat. My friend down in
Panama City has a new set to put on his slingshot 912 when it gets installed
so if I used his, it is already set up for him. Good for him. Good for me.
Good are to test it too. Nothing like a casual stroll above the beach. I
thought about changing the vibration dampers, there are only four but which
way? Harder, softer. Dont think I want that 912 wandering around up there
hither and throw. The way the mounts are, there is not much option. I
misphrased the CG problem with a four inch spacer. I should have said it
changed the flying and landing characteristics of the plane. If it had
worked, I would have kept it but it made it squirely. You have to remember,
this SS is very short coupled and it seemed the prop being back that little
bit affected everything, including torque on take off. The two inch
actually improved it. Didnt really need one but I spent so much money on it
and the four incher going back to kolb that I decided to keep it on. The
idea of listening tubes taped up everywhere for run up is a good idea, going
to try that. I also like the idea of taping up the leading edge of the
blades. That I can do without going to Florida. But having a good reason
to fly to florida is always a good idea. So, I will keep on trucking and
see if I can figure this out. Oh, yeah, according to the gear box plug,
there is absolutely no metal being eaten in there and I have almost a
hundred and fifty hours on the engine. Hauck was concerned that the gear
box spacers were not right. He still may be correct. I WILL find the
answer someday. I do know that there are many others out there making the
noise I have. I am also going to check the compression. Another good idea.
I wonder, if it has a different cylinder comp., what do I do then? Ted
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Ted;
When you went from the 582 to the 912, did you use the same lord mounts that
you used for the 582?
If so this may be your harmonic problem.
Jim Hauck
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Which would be more likely to be a cause, too flexible or too firm?
BB
On 10, Apr 2009, at 8:40 AM, Jim Hauck wrote:
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> Ted;
>
> When you went from the 582 to the 912, did you use the same lord
> mounts that you used for the 582?
>
> If so this may be your harmonic problem.
>
> Jim Hauck
>
>
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Can anybody tell me the torque value for the ULII-02 exhaust manifold
bolts? It's not listed in the service manual anywhere I can find and I
want to pull it off to drill and move the EGT probe to the correct location
while I'm in there retorquing the cylinder base bolts.
-Dana
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Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy disk?
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| Subject: | Re: Cuyuna torque |
It should be the same for a bolt of the same size on any other part
of the engine...or the same size and type bolt on anything else...? Herb
At 08:09 AM 4/10/2009, you wrote:
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>Can anybody tell me the torque value for the ULII-02 exhaust
>manifold bolts? It's not listed in the service manual anywhere I
>can find and I want to pull it off to drill and move the EGT probe
>to the correct location while I'm in there retorquing the cylinder base bolts.
>
>-Dana
>--
> Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy disk?
>
>
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>04/09/09 19:01:00
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| Subject: | Re: Victoria Falls |
I am thinking that he should adopt me and take me along on some of these
trips.>>
Hi Larry,
i would make a pretty cantankerous father figure these days. I shouldn`t
risk it.
Pat
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Bumped into this old photo while looking for something else.
I believe this was taken on Bonneville Salt Flats, Utah, May 2007.
The black line used for speed runs on the flats, is visible in the photo,
running right below John W's Kolbra.
john h
mkIII
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Landing at Bernard Airstrip along the Salmon River in the mountains of
Central Idaho, 2008. John W took this photo.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Victoria Falls |
That's OK, I am pretty grumpy myself. :-)
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: pj.ladd
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Victoria Falls
I am thinking that he should adopt me and take me along on some of
these trips.>>
Hi Larry,
i would make a pretty cantankerous father figure these days. I
shouldn`t risk it.
Pat
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04/09/09 10:27:00
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| Subject: | Sun & Fun 2009 NOTAM |
Here's the url for the S&F 2009 NOTAM:
http://www.faaproductionstudios.com//SNF%20Arrival%20Proceedures%20Notam/2009%20SUN%20N%20FUN%20NOTAM%20final%20color.pdf
Scroll down to page 25 for UL/Lt Planes.
We got a whole page this year, half of page is diagram of UL /Lt Plane
Arrival and Departures.
john h
mkIII
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Arty is still in Van Horn, TX, waiting on her wingman to complete
installation of a used 582 he bought on Ebay.
If they have favorable weather, they'll make S&F on time.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Back to gascolators |
**
Dave,
It is a primer tap. See:
http://www.andair.co.uk/pdfs/GAS01.pdf
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Thanks Dana, Mike, Mike and Jack. KNOWING makes all the difference! Now I can
proceed. I had my
Cuyuna shut off inexplicably on my US. Never could find out why, although I think
a rebuilt fuel
pump had something to do with it. But the experience kind of makes you sensitive
to "unknowns"...
and to the "sound of silence."
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
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- Mike and I were talking off List about the large price difference betwe
en ACS cheap 1.8 ounce Dacron, and the Poly Fiber 1.7 ounce at twice the pr
ice.- Does anyone know why the large difference?- Quality control?- D
oes anyone have any experience comparing the two?
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ll Sullivan
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ndsor Locks, Conn.
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| Subject: | Cuyuna exhaust rubber mounts |
Anybody know a source for the rubber bushings that are used to mount the
Cuyuna muffler to the brackets that attach to the cylinder head? I'm
guessing, but am not sure, that it's not a Kolb specific mounting.
-Dana
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There is always a law against doing anything interesting.
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| Subject: | Re: Cuyuna exhaust rubber mounts |
> Anybody know a source for the rubber bushings that are used to mount the
> Cuyuna muffler to the brackets that attach to the cylinder head? I'm
> guessing, but am not sure, that it's not a Kolb specific mounting.
>
> -Dana
Improvise!
You can get shock rubber bushings, muffler hanger rubber donuts, shock
absorber donuts, at your local front end and muffler shop.
Or...give Travis Brown a call at TNK. He has some male and female rubber
donuts that should get the job done.
john h
mkIII
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reminds me of a story...
fellow comes , with his young daughter ,, from New York(naturally)
:-) ... to Shelbyville Tenn...Wanting to buy a walking horse for the
young girl....He looked around and found and all black one ...for
25,000 dollars...Looked him over really good and asked " fine horse;
don't you have anything better?'" Come back tomorrow the owner said....
That night they painted the lower legs white...and sold the
horse for 35000.;...
I have used the 1.8 or 1.7 uncert...for 4 projects now...works
good... I tend to think that the heavier the fabric , the more
poly this and that it takes .
A Firefly needs its fabric treated with a 50-50 mix of brush
and spray...after the first coat of poly brush is applied in the
normal way...and use 50-50 til you are satisfied that the uv
protection is good... Two cross coats is good enough IMHO
... you are trying to make weight after all... and this stuff does add wt...
the cost difference is because of the paper trail that certified
fabric must have I think...mainly... Herb
do not archive...
At 03:59 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:
> Mike and I were talking off List about the large price difference
> between ACS cheap 1.8 ounce Dacron, and the Poly Fiber 1.7 ounce at
> twice the price. Does anyone know why the large
> difference? Quality control? Does anyone have any experience
> comparing the two?
>
> Bill Sullivan
> Windsor Locks, Conn.
> FS 447
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cuyuna exhaust rubber mounts |
Ah ha!! Just found that the engine isolators for the Hummel bird
are sway bar end links... I bought a package of 4 for 5 bucks at
O'Rileys...auto parts..1.25 in in dia and a reasonable through hole..
Just google sway bar end links...comes with large cupped washers ...Herb
At 06:43 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:
>
>Anybody know a source for the rubber bushings that are used to mount
>the Cuyuna muffler to the brackets that attach to the cylinder
>head? I'm guessing, but am not sure, that it's not a Kolb specific mounting.
>
>-Dana
>--
> There is always a law against doing anything interesting.
>
>
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>04/10/09 18:27:00
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1.7 oz uncertified & The certification ink stamped on the fabric with the
Certs for the fabric Probably? that would be my thoughts
Ellery
In a message dated 4/10/2009 5:03:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
Mike and I were talking off List about the large price difference
between ACS cheap 1.8 ounce Dacron, and the Poly Fiber 1.7 ounce at twice the
price. Does anyone know why the large difference? Quality control? Does
anyone have any experience comparing the two?
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Conn.
FS 447
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- Ellery- The general opinion is that ink is more expensive than Dacron.
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--- Bill Sullivan
do not archive
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Ellery=2C
Nope!! That isn't the difference. Even the 1.7 oz Poly Fiber fabric des
cription says it does NOT come stamped or certified for anything.
The following is from their website:
UNCERTIFIED LIGHT
72" Width P/N 09-02001 $7.65 Request Quote /Lineal Yd.
1.87 oz.=2C lightweight fabric recommended for covering ultralight aircraft
. This fabric will be unstamped. It is not approved for certified aircraft.
Mike Welch
From: ElleryWeld@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stits
1.7 oz uncertified & The certification ink stamped on the fabric with the
Certs for the fabric Probably? that would be my thoughts
Ellery
In a message dated 4/10/2009 5:03:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C williamt
sullivan@att.net writes:
Mike and I were talking off List about the large price difference between
ACS cheap 1.8 ounce Dacron=2C and the Poly Fiber 1.7 ounce at twice the pr
ice. Does anyone know why the large difference? Quality control? Does an
yone have any experience comparing the two?
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks=2C Conn.
FS 447
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