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1. 02:11 AM - Fw: Old Aviators And Old Airplanes (pj.ladd)
2. 03:48 AM - Re: Fw: Old Aviators and Old Airplanes (william sullivan)
3. 11:51 AM - Blood Pressure (henry.voris)
4. 12:33 PM - Re: Blood Pressure (Tom O'Hara)
5. 12:34 PM - Re: Blood Pressure (william sullivan)
6. 12:34 PM - Re: Blood Pressure (Larry Cottrell)
7. 01:10 PM - Re: Blood Pressure (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 01:23 PM - Re: Good source for Titanium tie-downs will be at Sun-n-Fun (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
9. 01:41 PM - Re: Good source for Titanium tie-downs will be at Sun-n-Fun (John Hauck)
10. 01:43 PM - Re: Blood Pressure (J.D. Stewart)
11. 02:02 PM - Re: Blood Pressure (cristalclear13)
12. 02:08 PM - Re: Wandering Wench is on her way (cristalclear13)
13. 06:57 PM - Re: Good source for Titanium tie-downs will be at Sun-n-Fun (John Bickham)
14. 08:29 PM - Dumb short short landing technique question (John Bickham)
15. 08:53 PM - Re: Dumb short short landing technique question (Robert Laird)
16. 09:01 PM - Re: Dumb short short landing technique question (lucien)
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| Subject: | Fw: Old Aviators And Old Airplanes |
Hi All,
not at all Kolb related but knowing how Americans react to Old Glory,
Mom and apple pie I thought you might like this. I am not getting at
anyone , its just the the English are a bit more buttoned down in their
reactions and feel a little uncomfortable with displays of emotion and
patriotism.
Nevertheless after reading this piece I couldn`t help feeling `Gosh! I
flew one of those` and feeling a bit pleased with myself.
Pat
I received this a little while ago. I don't know where it comes
from, but this is a good little story about a vivid memory of a P-51 and
its pilot by a fellow who was 12 years old in Canada in 1967. I think
it is a nicely written piece and that certainly evokes better times. . .
.
Old Aviators and Old Airplanes . . . .
It was noon on a Sunday as I recall, the day a Mustang P-51 was to
take to the air. They said it had flown in during the night from some
U.S. airport, the pilot had been tired. I marveled at the size of the
plane dwarfing the Pipers and Canucks tied down by her. It was much
larger than in the movies. She glistened in the sun like a bulwark of
security from days gone by.
The pilot arrived by cab, paid the driver, and then stepped into
the flight lounge. He was an older man; his wavy hair was gray and
tossed.
Looked like it might have been combed, say, around the turn of the
century. His flight jacket was checked, creased and worn - it smelled
old and genuine. Old Glory was prominently sewn to its shoulders. He
projected a quiet air of proficiency and pride devoid of arrogance. He
filed a quick flight plan to Montreal (Expo-67, Air Show) then walked
across the tarmac.
After taking several minutes to perform his walk-around check the
pilot returned to the flight lounge to ask if anyone would be available
to stand by with fire extinguishers while he "flashed the old bird up,
just to be safe."
Though only 12 at the time I was allowed to stand by with an
extinguisher after brief instruction on its use -- "If you see a fire,
point, then pull this lever!" I later became a firefighter, but that's
another story.
The air around the exhaust manifolds shimmered like a mirror from
fuel fumes as the huge prop started to rotate. One manifold, then
another, and yet another barked -- I stepped back with the others. In
moments the Packard-built Merlin engine came to life with a thunderous
roar, blue flames knifed from her manifolds. I looked at the others'
faces, there was no concern. I lowered the bell of my extinguisher.
One of the guys signaled to walk back to the lounge. We did.
Several minutes later we could hear the pilot doing his pre flight
run-up. He'd taxied t o the end of runway 19, out of sight. All went
quiet for several seconds; we raced from the lounge to the second story
deck to see if we could catch a glimpse of the P-51 as she started down
the runway. We could not.
There we stood, eyes fixed to a spot half way down 19. Then a
roar ripped across the field, much louder than before, like a furious
hell spawn set loose---something mighty this way was coming. "Listen to
that thing!" said the controller. In seconds the Mustang burst into our
line of sight. Its tail was already off and it was moving faster than
anything I'd ever seen by that point on 19. Two-thirds the way down 19
the Mustang was airborne with her gear going up. The prop tips were
supersonic; we clasped our ears as the Mustang climbed hellish fast into
the circuit to be eaten up by the dog-day haze.
We stood for a few moments in stunned silence trying to digest
what we'd just seen. The radio controller rushed by me to the radio.
"Kingston tower calling Mustang?" He looked back to us as he waited for
an acknowledgment.
The radio crackled, "Go ahead Kingston ." "Roger Mustang.
Kingston tower would like to advise the circuit is clear for a low level
pass." I stood in shock because the controller had, more or less, just
asked the pilot to return for an impromptu air show!
The controller looked at us. "What?" he asked. "I can't let that
guy go without asking. I couldn't forgive myself!"
The radio crackled once again, " Kingston, do I have permission
for a low level pass, east to west, across the field?" "Roger Mustang,
the circuit is clear for an east to west pass." "Roger, Kingston, I'm
coming out of 3000 feet, stand by."
We rushed back onto the second-story deck, eyes fixed toward the
eastern haze. The sound was subtle at first, a high-pitched whine, a
muffled screech, a distant scream. Moments later the P-51 burst through
the haze. Her airframe straining against positive Gs and gravity, wing
tips spilling contrails of condensed air, prop-tips again supersonic as
the burnished bird blasted across the eastern margin of the field
shredding and tearing the air.
At about 400 mph and 150 yards from where we stood she passed with
the old American pilot saluting. Imagine. A salute! I felt like
laughing, I felt like crying, she glistened, she screamed, the building
shook, my heart pounded.
Then the old pilot pulled her up and rolled, and rolled, and
rolled out of sight into the broken clouds and indelibly into my memory.
I've never wanted to be an American more than on that day. It was
a time when many nations in the world looked to America as their big
brother, a steady and even-handed beacon of security who navigated
difficult political water with grace and style; not unlike the pilot
who'd just flown into my memory.
He was proud, not arrogant, humble, not a braggart, old and
honest, projecting an aura of America at its best. That America will
return one day, I know it will.
Until that time, I'll just send off this story; call it a
reciprocal salute, to the old American pilot who wove a memory for a
young Canadian that's lasted a lifetime.
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Old Aviators and Old Airplanes |
- Pat: Thank you.- I had a P-51 make a low level, high speed pass over
the house a few years ago (I live one mile straight off the end of Bradley
International), and it is a thrill that has to be experienced.- Then he c
ame around slowly for his landing, so I got to see him twice.- Unforgetab
le.- It wouldn't bother me a bit if everybody went back to pistons and pr
ops.
-
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----------------- Bill Sullivan
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----------------- Windsor Locks, Ct.
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----------------- FS 447
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With my third class airmans physical looming it became apparent that my blood pressure
was going to be a problem... Most of the time it hovers just below the
limits. But as soon as I get into a tense situation (like having a physical)
it bounces wildly into the red.
I'm not on my home island so I can't see my country Doc and start a routine to
get my pressure down for the exam... In the great American tradition of self medication,
I started checking my pressure regularly and found some interesting
things...
Dusting off those breathing/meditation/centering techniques learned in the last
century while practicing Aikido, I found I could is lower my systolic pressure
15, 20, sometimes 30 points. This is well within the acceptable range. But I
still worried that I wouldn't get the opportunity to chill out and get my pressure
down during the exam.
My next discovery was a bit more counter intuitive... Viagra lowered my pressure
by 20 points. So I researched it... Viagra went to human trials as a medication
for angina. It didn't work, but they did note it's most happy side effect,
namely a woody you can drive nails with. Lost in the insueing euphoria was the
fact that it also lowers blood pressure... being most effective one hour after
the dose is given and at eight hours the effect is the same as a placebo.
Knowledge is power... use it wisely...
--------
Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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| Subject: | Re: Blood Pressure |
I think one should be careful as to which limb the blood pressure cuff is put on
after taking the blue pill--lol
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| Subject: | Re: Blood Pressure |
- Two comments, Henry.- Start petting a cat- this also brings it down.
- Also, is it a male or female doctor?- Pill up, and wear loose clothin
g.
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----------------- Good Luck
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--------------------- Bill Sulliv
an
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--------------------- Windsor Loc
ks, Ct.
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| Subject: | Re: Blood Pressure |
----- Original Message -----
From: henry.voris
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Blood Pressure
Dusting off those breathing/meditation/centering techniques learned in
the last century while practicing Aikido, I found I could is lower my
systolic pressure 15, 20, sometimes 30 points. This is well within the
acceptable range. But I still worried that I wouldn't get the
opportunity to chill out and get my pressure down during the exam.
My next discovery was a bit more counter intuitive... Viagra lowered
my pressure by 20 points. So I researched it... Viagra went to human
trials as a medication for angina. It didn't work, but they did note
it's most happy side effect, namely a woody you can drive nails with.
Lost in the insueing euphoria was the fact that it also lowers blood
pressure... being most effective one hour after the dose is given and at
eight hours the effect is the same as a placebo.
Knowledge is power... use it wisely...
--------
Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
LOL, I was just telling the wife the other day the same thing when one
of the ads came up on the TV. I believe it was for Ciallis, (36 hour
effects) One of the younger guys, when I was working for a living had
higher BP than they wanted for our Commercial Drivers Lic Physicals, and
he would take Viagra before he went and had no problem passing. The
Physician was a woman however and I am not sure how the hernia test
went. (cough) Actually I found that if I took three deep breaths and let
it out slowly in a relaxation tech. I could lower mine to young man
levels.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Blood Pressure |
Henry
One of the last times I got my third class medical I had this nurses aid
take my blood pressure. She was a very hot twenty something and to top this
off she held my arm between her arm and breast while taking my pressure.
Needless to say I had a high reading. She wondered if I normally had high
pressure. I countered that any male between 10 and dead would respond the
same way and if they didn't it might be best to call a ambulance. After here
red face cleared there was no further discussion about my blood pressure.
I'm not sure Viagra would help in this situation.
Since I only fly my Kolb I have decided to no longer risk my medical being
denied. Haven't taken third class medical exam in 6 years and don't plan to
again. If I were to fall into a whole bunch of money and want to buy a GA
airplane I would get a standard physical from a doctor that also does third
class medicals and ask if I would pass.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "henry.voris" <henry_voris@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:50 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Blood Pressure
>
> With my third class airman?Ts physical looming it became apparent that my
> blood pressure was going to be a problem... Most of the time it hovers
> just below the limits. But as soon as I get into a tense situation (like
> having a physical) it bounces wildly into the red.
>
> I'm not on my home island so I can't see my country Doc and start a
> routine to get my pressure down for the exam... In the great American
> tradition of self medication, I started checking my pressure regularly and
> found some interesting things...
>
> Dusting off those breathing/meditation/centering techniques learned in the
> last century while practicing Aikido, I found I could is lower my systolic
> pressure 15, 20, sometimes 30 points. This is well within the acceptable
> range. But I still worried that I wouldn't get the opportunity to chill
> out and get my pressure down during the exam.
>
> My next discovery was a bit more counter intuitive... Viagra lowered my
> pressure by 20 points. So I researched it... Viagra went to human trials
> as a medication for angina. It didn't work, but they did note it's most
> happy side effect, namely a woody you can drive nails with. Lost in the
> insueing euphoria was the fact that it also lowers blood pressure... being
> most effective one hour after the dose is given and at eight hours the
> effect is the same as a placebo.
>
> Knowledge is power... use it wisely...
>
> --------
> Henry
> Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239575#239575
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good source for Titanium tie-downs will be at Sun-n-Fun |
John
There used to be a guy that made dog style titanium tie downs and sold them
from a web site. I would really like a set but the rumor on this list was
that the guy wasn't delivering on the orders. Is this the same one?
Is this guy still making them. Can you send me contact information.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Good source for Titanium tie-downs will be at
Sun-n-Fun
>
> > If you are going to Sun-n-Fun and want some of the hard to find Titanium
> screw in tie-downs, check with Randy Simpson at Sun-n-Fun.
> >
>> John Bickham
>
>
> Randy sent me an email about a week before I blasted off to Alaska in
> 2004. Asked me if I would like a set of his titanium tie downs. Replied
> with an afirmative. A couple days before I took off my tie downs arrived.
> I am very proud of them and take them with me every flight.
>
> They are limited in rocky soil, like out West.
>
> I also have some home made tie downs, rebar with a chain link welded just
> below the top, to use in rocky areas. Can pound them in with a mallet,
> rock, hachet, or whatever.
>
> Also have some nice long 3/8" braided nylon rope. Nothing like landing in
> a wind storm only to find the tie downs are spaced to far apart for your
> ropes.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Good source for Titanium tie-downs will be at Sun-n-Fun |
> Is this guy still making them. Can you send me contact information.
>
> Rick Neilsen
I don't have his contact info, but it is Randy Simpson that is traveling
with Arty Trost.
Sure you can get in contact with him through Arty.
If you are going to be at S&F you can get his autograph. ;-) Arty's too!
john h
mkIII
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If your doctor would really like to get you passed, see if he's OK with you
laying on your side. Take the BP on the upper arm. My first medical passed
easily this way when it looked borderline just minutes before. The nurse
was the one who suggested it. :>)
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports, LLC
www.ultrafunairsports.com
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Titanaircraft/
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http://challenger.inebraska.com <http://challenger.inebraska.com/>
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Blood Pressure
----- Original Message -----
From: henry.voris <mailto:henry_voris@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Blood Pressure
Dusting off those breathing/meditation/centering techniques learned in the
last century while practicing Aikido, I found I could is lower my systolic
pressure 15, 20, sometimes 30 points. This is well within the acceptable
range. But I still worried that I wouldn't get the opportunity to chill out
and get my pressure down during the exam.
My next discovery was a bit more counter intuitive... Viagra lowered my
pressure by 20 points. So I researched it... Viagra went to human trials as
a medication for angina. It didn't work, but they did note it's most happy
side effect, namely a woody you can drive nails with. Lost in the insueing
euphoria was the fact that it also lowers blood pressure... being most
effective one hour after the dose is given and at eight hours the effect is
the same as a placebo.
Knowledge is power... use it wisely...
--------
Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
LOL, I was just telling the wife the other day the same thing when one of
the ads came up on the TV. I believe it was for Ciallis, (36 hour effects)
One of the younger guys, when I was working for a living had higher BP than
they wanted for our Commercial Drivers Lic Physicals, and he would take
Viagra before he went and had no problem passing. The Physician was a woman
however and I am not sure how the hernia test went. (cough) Actually I found
that if I took three deep breaths and let it out slowly in a relaxation
tech. I could lower mine to young man levels.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Blood Pressure |
henry.voris wrote:
> This is well within the acceptable range. But I still worried that I wouldn't
get the opportunity to chill out and get my pressure down during the exam.
>
Henry,
Here's an idea...Record your readings for a month or more that you take at home
or wherever and take that log in to the doctor's office when you get your physical.
(Read the instructions because there are times that are best not to take
it such as after eating.) I've been logging mine and taking it to the dr office
because going to the doctor makes my bp shoot up as well. That way my doctor
can get a better reading of what I usually run.
--------
Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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| Subject: | Re: Wandering Wench is on her way |
John Bickham wrote:
> Also got to meet another Drifter pilot from Beaumont, TX - Tom Harlagn (sp?).
>
He was mentioned in the article written about her in the beaumont enterprise site
(AOPA daily Aviation eBrief had a link to this article in today's email).
It is a good article about her.
http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/local/on_the_wings_of_adventure__oregon_resident_touches_down_in_hardin_county_on_way_to_florida_04-14-2009.html
I think anyone can sign up for AOPA's Aviation eBrief (daily email showing aviation
news from all over the country) here:
http://www.smartbrief.com/aopa/
--------
Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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| Subject: | Re: Good source for Titanium tie-downs will be at Sun-n-Fun |
Rick,
Don't know about the web site and the filling order problem. Randy didn't strike
me as the type. I didn't get Randy's e-mail address. I could work on it.
As John H said, he will be at Sun-n-Fun and plans to be at MV with Arty. If your
plans include those you can see him there. If not, I can work on it for you.
He is traveling with a few sets. He has sold three so far. Randy is retired and
partly financing his trip with these. He can't officially sell them at the
vendor regulated Sun-n-Fun, but if you get to him early he may be able to fix
you up.
I'll ask permission to post his address when I get it.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough
ones.
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| Subject: | Dumb short short landing technique question |
I have a what may seem like a dumb question regarding really short landings. I've
been pushing myself to try to land as short as I can. I find it a challenge
to control the speed at minimum and achieve a decent landing with minimum ground
roll. I consider myself barely an average aviator and have the history
to prove it.
I'm down to landing in less than 600 ft over a +80 foot obstacle on grass. One
of the problems is the steep approach at minimum speed and timing the flare.
Gusting winds don't help. I think what is happening is the wing and flaps are
blocking the air at the abrupt flare and robbing some elevator authority making
things kinda ugly at times. My next move is to try a little shot of power
to put some air on the elevator for authority.
I liken this to a bird landing on a wire and missing the wire. Interested in learning
others techniques and suggestions. Don't want to insult anyone, but would
like to avoid VG's being the answer. Technique should be the same to achieve
best result with or without VG's. Sorry bout that.
Again, this is pushing my abilities. I may have reached my personal limits based
on my limited ability.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough
ones.
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| Subject: | Re: Dumb short short landing technique question |
What's your configuration for landing? I.e., what flaps, if any, are you
using?
-- Robert
MkIIIC/912ULS
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM, John Bickham <gearbender@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> I have a what may seem like a dumb question regarding really short
> landings. I've been pushing myself to try to land as short as I can. I
> find it a challenge to control the speed at minimum and achieve a decent
> landing with minimum ground roll. I consider myself barely an average
> aviator and have the history to prove it.
>
> I'm down to landing in less than 600 ft over a +80 foot obstacle on grass.
> One of the problems is the steep approach at minimum speed and timing the
> flare. Gusting winds don't help. I think what is happening is the wing and
> flaps are blocking the air at the abrupt flare and robbing some elevator
> authority making things kinda ugly at times. My next move is to try a
> little shot of power to put some air on the elevator for authority.
>
> I liken this to a bird landing on a wire and missing the wire. Interested
> in learning others techniques and suggestions. Don't want to insult anyone,
> but would like to avoid VG's being the answer. Technique should be the same
> to achieve best result with or without VG's. Sorry bout that.
>
> Again, this is pushing my abilities. I may have reached my personal limits
> based on my limited ability.
>
> --------
> Thanks too much,
>
> John Bickham
> Mark III-C w/ 912UL
> St. Francisville, LA
>
> Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot
> of rough ones.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=239655#239655
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dumb short short landing technique question |
John Bickham wrote:
> I have a what may seem like a dumb question regarding really short landings.
I've been pushing myself to try to land as short as I can. I find it a challenge
to control the speed at minimum and achieve a decent landing with minimum
ground roll. I consider myself barely an average aviator and have the history
to prove it.
>
> I'm down to landing in less than 600 ft over a +80 foot obstacle on grass. One
of the problems is the steep approach at minimum speed and timing the flare.
Gusting winds don't help. I think what is happening is the wing and flaps
are blocking the air at the abrupt flare and robbing some elevator authority making
things kinda ugly at times. My next move is to try a little shot of power
to put some air on the elevator for authority.
>
> I liken this to a bird landing on a wire and missing the wire. Interested in
learning others techniques and suggestions. Don't want to insult anyone, but
would like to avoid VG's being the answer. Technique should be the same to achieve
best result with or without VG's. Sorry bout that.
>
> Again, this is pushing my abilities. I may have reached my personal limits based
on my limited ability.
What I do is keep at the ready with the throttle when slow with a high sink rate
- throttle becomes the 4th control surface when slow. When you're near stall
like this, the altitude for airspeed trade involves more cost in altitude than
otherwise if you get into some sudden sink. So you have to be able to add energy
back into the equation in those cases to arrest the sink rate but without
having to make large reductions in AoA.
So, I'd configure for the short field in the normal way, but adjust the sink rate
with the power a little more than you otherwise would to keep from having to
speed up. Maintain the low airspeed with the elevator like usual.
Pusher planes have an advantage here in that we can instantly restore elevator/rudder
authority by applying power and getting the wind going back over those
control surfaces. But it still works in any airplane (even in trikes).
Carrying a little power into the flare will slow down the energy bleed-off too
and thus slow the flare down. This really helped a whole bunch in my FSII, which
normally had a pretty quick flare anyway like with any low-intertia plane design.
I could still come in slow, but adding a little power right at roundout
slowed the flare down enough to make the timing a lot less critical.
It may add a little length to your landing, but you could still get down in something
you'd only be able to trailer out of anyway ;)
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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